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Title: How do you close avast?
Post by: bghjkl on September 02, 2010, 12:23:36 PM
I don't want avast to be running. At all. There's no option to "quit" or "shut down" or "exit" on the task panel or the gui. When I try to end the process with task manager it says "access denied"

I've read a few similar topics on here, and the responses were very surprising. things like

"why would you want to close avast?"
"it doesn't take any memory"
"you'll be prone to attacks HURR DURR"

I just want to be able to stop it from running. This shouldn't require joining a forum and posting a support topic.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: logos on September 02, 2010, 01:13:27 PM
I don't want avast to be running. At all. There's no option to "quit" or "shut down" or "exit" on the task panel or the gui. When I try to end the process with task manager it says "access denied"

I've read a few similar topics on here, and the responses were very surprising. things like

"why would you want to close avast?"
"it doesn't take any memory"
"you'll be prone to attacks HURR DURR"

I just want to be able to stop it from running. This shouldn't require joining a forum and posting a support topic.

you mean you registered just to ask this, wow, respect ;D ...as to the reasons why you want to stop avast, they're probably just as respectable.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Lisandro on September 02, 2010, 01:15:25 PM
avast! shields control > Disable...
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bghjkl on September 02, 2010, 07:50:00 PM

you mean you registered just to ask this, wow, respect ;D ...as to the reasons why you want to stop avast, they're probably just as respectable.

My reasons are irrelevant. It should never be this hard to simply stop an application from running.

avast! shields control > Disable...
That doesn't do anything but disable it. Seems quite a useless function as Avast stops doing everything, but the process continues to run and take up memory. The icon is still in my taskbar, and AvastUI.exe is still running.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Gopher John on September 02, 2010, 07:58:49 PM

you mean you registered just to ask this, wow, respect ;D ...as to the reasons why you want to stop avast, they're probably just as respectable.

My reasons are irrelevant. It should never be this hard to simply stop an application from running.

avast! shields control > Disable...
That doesn't do anything but disable it. Seems quite a useless function as Avast stops doing everything, but the process continues to run and take up memory. The icon is still in my taskbar, and AvastUI.exe is still running.

Uninstall Avast.  It quits running then. ;D  Seriously, if you don't want it running, then you don't want it's protection. ::)
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Pondus on September 02, 2010, 08:05:23 PM
If it is an on-demand only scanner you want ? her are two

ClamWin 0.96.2.1 http://filehippo.com/download_clamwin/
BitDefender 10 Free Edition http://filehippo.com/download_bitdefender/
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bghjkl on September 02, 2010, 08:14:26 PM

you mean you registered just to ask this, wow, respect ;D ...as to the reasons why you want to stop avast, they're probably just as respectable.

My reasons are irrelevant. It should never be this hard to simply stop an application from running.

avast! shields control > Disable...
That doesn't do anything but disable it. Seems quite a useless function as Avast stops doing everything, but the process continues to run and take up memory. The icon is still in my taskbar, and AvastUI.exe is still running.

Uninstall Avast.  It quits running then. ;D  Seriously, if you don't want it running, then you don't want it's protection. ::)

So the only way to close it is to uninstall it? I do want the protection, but I'm suspicious that avast is the cause of some web browsing problems i've been having, and I want to close it to see if it is. This shouldn't be a daunting task!

Imagine if you had to uninstall your browser every time you wanted to close it.

May I suggest a simple "exit avast!" button for the next update.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Pondus on September 02, 2010, 08:16:01 PM
Is there any AV program you can turn off ?
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Gopher John on September 02, 2010, 08:37:59 PM
Disabling the Web Shield temporarily as Tech mentioned is a valid way to check if Avast is causing your browsing problem.  With it disabled, clear your browser cache and visit the site(s) that you are having problems with.  Of course, you will have less protection and can't blame Avast if you become infected while doing so.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bghjkl on September 03, 2010, 12:59:29 AM
so i am to understand that there is no possible way to stop avastui.exe from running?

if so, that's a MAJOR flaw in the software.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: DavidR on September 03, 2010, 02:33:48 AM
avast is designed to be a 'resident' AV so what you are suggesting isn't what it was designed for and as such would require lots of hacking to get it to act like an on-demand AV.

The avastUI has no security function, but is there so you can access the various shields and settings.

Eventually we got the information out of you as to why you want to do this - to resolve a perceived web browsing problem:
Quote from: bghjkl
I do want the protection, but I'm suspicious that avast is the cause of some web browsing problems i've been having, and I want to close it to see if it is.

So why not let us try and find and resolve that problem. The web shield is the shield directly related to the internet, so as suggested you can stop the web shield, whilst still retaining the protection of the other shields.

What are the web browsing problems ?
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bghjkl on September 03, 2010, 09:07:51 AM
avast is designed to be a 'resident' AV so what you are suggesting isn't what it was designed for and as such would require lots of hacking to get it to act like an on-demand AV.

The avastUI has no security function, but is there so you can access the various shields and settings.

Eventually we got the information out of you as to why you want to do this - to resolve a perceived web browsing problem:
Quote from: bghjkl
I do want the protection, but I'm suspicious that avast is the cause of some web browsing problems i've been having, and I want to close it to see if it is.

So why not let us try and find and resolve that problem. The web shield is the shield directly related to the internet, so as suggested you can stop the web shield, whilst still retaining the protection of the other shields.

What are the web browsing problems ?

that's not what i asked. i asked how to end the process avastui.exe

but certain websites (google, craigslist, and wikipedia) always time out, but others work fine (bing, ebay, ...the avast forum)

I want to remove all instances of suspects to try to remedy the problem, as anyone with any sense would.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Tarq57 on September 03, 2010, 09:38:23 AM
You seem determined to troubleshoot your own way, so be it.
Uninstall Avast.
That is the only way I know of to exit it.
I see that as a feature, rather than a flaw.

Most users don't have this issue with Avast selectively blocking some sites; I suspect some other culprit. Let us know how you go.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Chaul on September 03, 2010, 10:36:41 AM
that's not what i asked. i asked how to end the process avastui.exe

but certain websites (google, craigslist, and wikipedia) always time out, but others work fine (bing, ebay, ...the avast forum)

I want to remove all instances of suspects to try to remedy the problem, as anyone with any sense would.
I would try and scan the computer with other anti-malware apps (ones suggested here) in case Avast is not detecting anything. Or, take a look at the hosts file that may be redirecting traffic where it shouldn't go and then the connection times out. Or, it's the LAN proxy setting.

Most AV's are designed so that you can't shut them down once they are running. It's a security feature so that malware can't just shut the scanners down and then spread. That's what some of the virus would try and do first.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: RejZoR on September 03, 2010, 10:42:40 AM
Programs and Features -> avast! Antivirus -> Uninstall

Seriously, why ppl use antiviruses and want them to be disabled!? It's like having a turbo charged Lamborghini Murcielago and want to have it without the engine... Makes no sense.

If you're suspecting avast! to cause certain web related problems (slowdowns), you can in fact disable those shields from inside avast!. Pay attention to Web Shield and Network Shield. These two pass all the network traffic through its filters. You can also have only Standard Shield installed, but in general, these two shields don't cause much problems or slowdowns.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Vlk on September 03, 2010, 12:25:52 PM
First a little bit background information. The reason why it's somewhat difficult to close avast (and pretty much any other AV, for that matter) is that we want to make it difficult for the bad guys as well. I mean, if there was a simple way to kill the AV processes, it would be way too easy for a virus to do the same.

Now, to return to the original question, it's not a big deal to do it (if you actually know how ;)).

So, what's the trick?

First disable the avast self-defense module (avast -> Settings -> Troubleshooting).
Confirm the consent message with Yes, and that's basically it.

Now you can e.g. kill the avast processes from the Task Manager.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bghjkl on September 04, 2010, 09:35:49 PM
thanks vlk

exactly what i wanted

fixed my issues as well...
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bradhayashi on November 02, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
I know that this is an old post, but just in case any of you still receive notifications, I just want to say thank you, Vlk, for finally answering bghjkl's original question as it answered mine, too.

This thread is an excellent example of how frustrating it can be to try to get help online as there are so many know-it-alls who put words into your mouth and proceed to answer the question that THEY think you should be asking and offering all sorts of information, both sincere and condescending, that does not in the least give the answer for which you are seeking. Come on, people--just answer the question! Like Vlk did.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Anonymousblogger on December 03, 2012, 10:33:13 AM
OK, so I wanted to close avast today...not as simple as I first thought.
Right click, close - Fail
Open user interface, close - Fail
Ctrl-Alt-Del, TM, close - Fail
Msconfig - Fail
CCleaner - Fail
Time to check the forums...
...A post asking the same question in the Avast forum - this should be the one - Fail
Does anybody other than the guy who first asked the question actually know what "Close Avast" actually means?
The only responses that were even remotely useful were the ones suggesting a complete uninstall - Fail
Is Avast trying to become Adobe? Software on my computer answers to me, not the other way around!
My God! this forum has been read 6750 times, guess I'm not the only who likes to be able to close software at will
Anyway, short of uninstalling Avast, 15 minutes later I eventually figured it out
...time to tell the world how to "close" Avast, damn, I have to register to post...10 minutes later....
Here we go, turn off the self defence module in settings, troubleshooting, blah blah blah
Oh, I wish I had seen the link to page 2 of the forum. Nice Work VLK
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Arnold72 on December 03, 2012, 03:11:43 PM
I don't want avast to be running. At all. There's no option to "quit" or "shut down" or "exit" on the task panel or the gui. When I try to end the process with task manager it says "access denied"

I've read a few similar topics on here, and the responses were very surprising. things like

"why would you want to close avast?"
"it doesn't take any memory"
"you'll be prone to attacks HURR DURR"

I just want to be able to stop it from running. This shouldn't require joining a forum and posting a support topic.
What a strange question?You have an AV installed and dont want it running!! :o
Why on earth did you install it and if your having problems with it then simply uninstall it or have i missed something here.? >:(

You could stop it running via the services section but why do that is beyond me. :o
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: CraigB on December 03, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
You could stop it running via the services section but why do that is beyond me. :o
Not unless you first disable avasts self protection as vlk had already explained.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: igor on December 03, 2012, 03:18:03 PM
Yes, you can (the service only, not the UI) - you'll get a similar notification.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Circlestrafe on December 26, 2012, 07:56:12 PM
Wow, a lot of hostility in this thread.

I was just scanning the forum looking for any repetitive negative issues that users are experiencing using Avast (hard to believe, as some give the impression Avast is perfect right here in this very thread!), when I stumbled upon this relatively outdated yet purposeful thread.  One reason why you'd want to CLOSE an AV is when installing drivers.  Disabling is probably good enough, but I go the extra mile and prevent it from running during video driver installation.  I regularly update video drivers that may benefit my system to some degree, as I'm an avid gamer (have been since the late 80s) and it's definitely worth the extra minute or two after downloading the driver to disable ALL extra programs that run on startup, especially the 'unnecessary' ones, for the duration of the simple driver installation process. Programs such as Steam or Xfire, (there are built-in options in those to prevent running at startup, uncheck those boxes), and yes, your ANTIVIRUS program.  Horrifying isn't it? I know, I'm a moron to do so, what possible reason would I have to do so?  It's pure insanity!  It's actually common sense. Also, disable the internet connection, (you can't get a virus if you're isolated...I'm not sure if those terrified at the mere thought  of closing their AV know this, so I thought I'd play Captain Obvious for a second here, quite a bit of sarcasm here, more than usual anyway)...in my case, unplug the cable, if you're wireless, obviously you'd disable your adapter before rebooting.  Shouldn't need to mention this, but I'll do it anyway; you will have already scanned the downloaded driver files, automatically I hope, (but hell, I manually scan them even though I've set my AV to do so automatically)  before doing this, so having it running during installation is unnecessary.

Now, you may think this is extreme, or overkill, even unnecessary, and it probably is, but as I've had practically zero issues running any game on any of my systems, past and present, using these quick and simple precautions; (sans general debilitating issues that developers claim responsibility for and with any luck release a patch fixing such issues).  But we're talking user error here, as in incorrect installations and/or settings or even poor hardware...piss poor power supplies, anyone?)  I can simply skip the few aforementioned steps, install the drivers with AV simply disabled, then troubleshoot for hours in the event something may go wrong. Yes, I'll admit, it's a big IF, but I'll just do it 'right' the first time and avoid chancing that remotely possible 'IF'.  Especially since driver updates are relatively infrequent, and it's just a few minutes of one's time to  install them properly.  So, yes, I'll continue using this procedure which includes having the AV CLOSED during installation.

I also admit I play too many games, I have ~700 on Steam alone and that's just one of many sources I purchase games from.  If you've read any gaming forum, you'd see thousands, if not millions from over the years,  of users with various game related isssues, many of which are video related, subsequently due to a driver issue. Whether it be because of an incorrect version, improper installation, inappropriately adjusted settings via utility program, or simply inadequate hardware.  Correct installation is the first step to narrowing the troubleshooting procedure.  Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, so just download and install, it'll work just fine, Windows knows what it's doing, if there's a problem afterward, it HAS to be the company that made the program that's now not working as it should, or your hardware vendor, they haven't a clue what they're doing, do they?  I mean, it couldn't possibly be user error.  Many of those problems in the forums  can be attributed to improper driver installation.   I love the 'don't buy this game because it won't run on my particular system' threads.  My money's on incorrect installation and/or improper settings (whether it be bios, utility programs, overclocking, etc), or simply inadequate hardware specs (e.g laptops with very cheap video). 

The point being, his question was legitimate, the crass remarks were unnecessary, ignorant even.  Sure, having the AV disabled or even just leaving it running probably won't ever corrupt a driver installation for most people, especially non-gamers, as they're less likely to update critical hardware drivers, namely the video, but why take the chance?  It takes less than half the time to do it right than it took me to explain one of only two, maybe three reasons you'd actually want to terminate an AV program, if ever.  Basic third grade material. 

Yeah, I registered just to state the obvious.  Perhaps if people did stuff right, we wouldn't have to fix what shouldn't have been broken in the first place.  Judging from this thread, that's not going to happen anytime soon.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: quakeworld on December 27, 2012, 01:01:29 PM
^

I just logged in to say FRAT. you probably play RPGs or MMORPGs  a lot don't you? MMORPGs players say a lot of things that can be said in a few words.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: ismgr on March 26, 2013, 11:33:03 PM
What a strange question?You have an AV installed and dont want it running!! :o
Why on earth did you install it and if your having problems with it then simply uninstall it or have i missed something here.? >:(

You could stop it running via the services section but why do that is beyond me. :o
He just wanted to stop the process to do some tests. Why is that so hard for some to understand. There are some programs that will not install with an AV process running. Adobe Flash is one that immediately comes to mind. If the AvastUI process is running it will not install or update, it does not matter if you stop the service, it will not install unless you kill the process. We have several proprietary programs that will not update with an AV process running.

Avast needs to take a lesson from Trend Micro. When you install the program you create an administrative password. You use this password to kill the processes when you need to install a program or update. Only the person with the password can stop the AV. Much simpler than the convoluted procedure to kill the Avast process.

Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: igor on March 26, 2013, 11:59:55 PM
That's the first time I hear about Adobe Flash not installing with avast! running... since avast! v7 (and 5 & 6) used Flash for some UI components and had a link to install Flash in case it was missing, I'm rather sure quite a few people installed Flash with avast! without any problems.

If there's a tool that doesn't install or update with the antivirus running, then it sounds like a bug in the antivirus (or the program itself, but that would be a very specific bug) and should be fixed properly, not by terminating the antivirus. Stopping the antivirus every time you want to update something creates an unprotected window where the machine may get infected. Installing and updating programs is exactly the moment when the antivirus should be running the most - you don't know whether you are installing the real package, whether the vendors servers got compromised, whether the developer, or some 3rd party libraries, got infected and included in the product - and you get infected during the update.

Besides, the whole killing processes is "half a solution" anyway - there are still loaded DLLs in other processes that do something, there are loaded drivers that do something, and it's technically impossible to unload them, no matter if you enter a password or do some other magic. So if you really want to disable an antivirus for real, you need to uninstall it and reboot the computer - which you probably don't want to do before every of these "updates".
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: iroc9555 on March 27, 2013, 12:16:04 AM
...There are some programs that will not install with an AV process running. Adobe Flash is one that immediately comes to mind. If the AvastUI process is running it will not install or update, it does not matter if you stop the service, it will not install unless you kill the process...

This might be the case with Trend Micro, but not with Avast!. You obviously not running Avast! otherwise you will know it. I have been installing Adobe Flash Player with Avast! running for years without any problems whatsoever.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: mattsemich on March 04, 2015, 03:22:57 AM
I agree with the guy who posted this.

For people with low-end computers, turning off Avast for better cpu performance for let's say video games... having no other option than to uninstall/re-install it everytime you want better computer performance during other things is RIDICULOUS.

why are so many people expressing negative opinions toward him having an issue with this? he should be able to close this application, and re-open it at his convenience.

Then Avast members really saying, well... you shouldn't turn off our product, but instead let us talk you through your problem.

No. In my line of business, you make your customer happy with your product. Your not shoving your product down peoples throats, expecting them to deal with your crappy controls, then expect to be proud of a function that should have initially been on your product. Wtf is wrong with you people?

I'm glad I have a nice computer now, because with it being in "sleep" mode or not, I'd want to turn it off to game. And should have every option to be able to.

Just uninstall it? lol really? you people have some serious issues.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Sean59 on March 15, 2015, 01:23:20 AM
OK. I HAVE a reason to disable this! I have a quad monitor setup. when going into nvidia control panel, where I can adjust the screen positions and also turn 3 24" monitors into one 5750x1080, I must disable certain processes first. Avast is blocking me from being able to do it and needs to be momentarily shut down to enable the process. I HAVE to delete the entire thing>>???!!!
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Darkwolf on March 15, 2015, 01:40:33 AM
First disable the avast self-defense module (avast -> Settings -> Troubleshooting).
Confirm the consent message with Yes. You have to turn off the self-defense module to be able to turn it off in Task Manager. Depending on your OS you might have to reboot. I just learned this myself, and it does work. 
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Elliander on January 26, 2016, 06:52:28 PM
First a little bit background information. The reason why it's somewhat difficult to close avast (and pretty much any other AV, for that matter) is that we want to make it difficult for the bad guys as well. I mean, if there was a simple way to kill the AV processes, it would be way too easy for a virus to do the same.

Now, to return to the original question, it's not a big deal to do it (if you actually know how ;)).

So, what's the trick?

First disable the avast self-defense module (avast -> Settings -> Troubleshooting).
Confirm the consent message with Yes, and that's basically it.

Now you can e.g. kill the avast processes from the Task Manager.

Thanks
Vlk

An actual solution! and it still works!

Avast directly interferes with the programs I write, the programs I have to download from my college, and even when I have a program white listed it still causes problems because Avast uses Drep to interferes with all independent developers and students and is worse than heuristics, but not as bad as other antivirus programs that directly delete programs and source code it doesn't like right after I finish writing it. It's just sad to see Avast go that route. So I'd still want to use is as an antivirus (since, although it interferes while running, it's still a good antivirus when used strictly as one), but disabling causes it to draw attention to it with an annoying notification and exclamation mark so shutting it off completely is the best solution. Even disabling reputation checks isn't a complete fix, and there is never an option to continue anyway when it wants to block something and no way for the user to independently set their own white list of trusted files and sites and that all together is the reason why I don't just want this program off, I NEED it off. As does every other student who uses Avast at my college.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bob3160 on January 26, 2016, 07:08:59 PM
Making bypassing the program difficult is done by design. Why bother using an AV at all if any time it blocks
something you can simply bypass the block. Something safe today, can be dangerous tomorrow.
Till I verify something blocked by my AV (Avast), is truly a false positive, it stays blocked.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: shark132141 on April 10, 2016, 12:24:46 PM
I realize this is an old, old thread, but since it's the first that comes up in a search for this issue I thought I'd register and comment.

Avast (the business): you have a serious image problem! logos, Gopher John, DavidR, Arnold72 are actively attacking someone asking a perfectly reasonable question. Do these people speak for the company?

Vlk gave the actual solution. Thank you. Too late, I'm afraid. Now to uninstall and install absolutely any other AV product!
(No, I'm not involved in purchasing at my company, this is just my home computer, so feel free to ignore.)

Edit: You know this has (April 2016) over 33000 views, right? It's the first impression a lot of people have of the product.  ;D
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Helios6842 on May 17, 2016, 10:36:10 PM
100% agree with shark. People here are asking perfectly legitimate questions, AV can cause problems and slowdown issues in certain cases (especially in older computers). Thanks to those who actually posted solutions instead of attacking the person asking the question.

I am an admin at a company with a large amount of computers, it isn't unreasonable to want a solution to be able to close a program.

There are times in troubleshooting where someone might actually want to close AV down for a minute or two, people should have control over their programs and computers, not the other way around.

Installing the yahoo bullshit was the last straw for me, trust is hard to gain and easily lost.

"Seriously, why ppl use antiviruses and want them to be disabled!? It's like having a turbo charged Lamborghini Murcielago and want to have it without the engine... Makes no sense.

If you're suspecting avast! to cause certain web related problems (slowdowns), you can in fact disable those shields from inside avast!. Pay attention to Web Shield and Network Shield. These two pass all the network traffic through its filters. You can also have only Standard Shield installed, but in general, these two shields don't cause much problems or slowdowns."

No, it is not. It is like having a Lambo that you can't shut off to make repairs. Turning off the shields does not kill the program. Oh, in general they don't cause problems? Thanks for the assumptions and generalizations. Instead of making it take more time to get to the actual solution, why don't you try shutting the fuck up?

I hope none of these idiot posters are paid anything by the company, it takes a true moron to call a flaw a feature.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Helios6842 on May 17, 2016, 10:41:13 PM
Making bypassing the program difficult is done by design. Why bother using an AV at all if any time it blocks
something you can simply bypass the block. Something safe today, can be dangerous tomorrow.
Till I verify something blocked by my AV (Avast), is truly a false positive, it stays blocked.

What about a password for shutdown? You create a user known password with a required number of digits that allows the program to quit?

Having anything you can't shut off on your computer is a problem, including AV.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bob3160 on May 17, 2016, 10:45:53 PM
Not being able to turn of Avast has never presented a problem here.
Turning it off probably would since it's the quickest way to infect your computer. 
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Helios6842 on May 17, 2016, 10:49:23 PM
This whole thread is about how it HAS presented a problem. Are you blind? You are saying that the act of turning off avast alone infects your computer? WTF? That involves downloading malware/viruses and executing them, viruses don't just spawn on their own because you don't have AV on.

AV is important, but that doesn't mean you should lose control of your computer.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Eddy on May 17, 2016, 10:54:13 PM
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What about a password for shutdown?
avast already has the option to put a password on it.
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viruses don't just spawn on their own because you don't have AV on.
Viruses don't but there is other malware that does.
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You are saying that the act of turning off avast alone infects your computer?
No, he didn't say that.
He said a system without a av can very quickly become infected.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Helios6842 on May 17, 2016, 11:00:46 PM
I was saying a password specific to allow it to shut down (which it does not have), not just a general password. Very different.

People need a way to shut their programs down, especially if they pay for them.

No shit sherlock, if I made it this far, don't you think I know that running without AV can cause problems?

Still need an option to shut the damn thing off if there are issues. There is one - problem solved.

My only problem here is posters that don't have solutions berating those that are asking questions.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: stibi on May 18, 2016, 11:59:59 AM
And you have the answer to this more than 5 years old question?
Let us hear.

I think there are some points worth to discuss about Avast. This here is not included  :)
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Pondus on May 18, 2016, 12:54:50 PM
answer is in reply nr #15

Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Stuart61 on October 22, 2016, 09:10:17 PM
Topic: How do you close avast?  (Read 40039 times)

Firstly, congrats VLK for helping OP and some majority of that number above close the damn software.


Secondly, those newts complaining about turning Avast off avast, this is for you. Avast only needs to be running either when you are on-line or connecting external storage devices. Thus, there is plenty of opportunity to turn it off, and reasons why one might want to. Please do not be so ignorant. Secondly, if the process can be killed by turning that one option off in the software (see VLK post), then why the hell can Avast not just label it quit with the info button next to it saying close Avast from the task manager, or disable task manager locking, or password protect, or pin protect a quit function.

Thirdly, for Avast by having the 100% lock out, reading this post and the stupidity of not only this thread but the software I've un-installed it. I do not like the default settings (which doesn't include pup search - but does include sharing information to avast). I do not like having to do number different scans, or having numerous products thrown at me. With out smarter UI, this company will sink. The average joe is not happy having a third party (outside their household) have such control over their pc. That is, the average joe must have control to switch it off, and this function should be made clearly visible for even the most non savvy computer average joes out there. Almost like having captchas I can't blooming read but having a audio file to give the instruction. Make It Simpler Stupid instead of a MISS!

Cya! Well, now I can turn it off I will perhaps use if and when I need to. But only because I have the control. Thanks but fix the UI and ability to switch it off.

 
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Stuart61 on October 22, 2016, 09:15:08 PM
Not being able to turn of Avast has never presented a problem here.
Turning it off probably would since it's the quickest way to infect your computer.

Topic: How do you close avast?  (Read 40039 times)

I disagree and it's likely so do the other 20026 people assuming that the 3 page thread of 50 or so posters visited not more than 200 times and a 1.5 average of views each, which is unrealistic just like your post.

By the way are you saying turning avast of will cause an infection? Not having Avast running is not the quickest way to cause an infection, having an infected file is, presumably on an unprotected computer. This is not the only software on the market free or paid; so your logic is floored thus turning avast off is not by any means a quick way to infection, unless causing it. Also, there has been nothing stated in this thread saying that the operators wanting to turn off avast only had avast running. Next time get of your pogo stick, stop being confrontational after the fact, and stop being irrelevant.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Stuart61 on October 22, 2016, 09:32:15 PM
answer is in reply nr #15

Could have quoted it, instead of sending people on a counting spree. obviously you felt it had worth as a post, counted posts to it (so you were there), and that the post directly aided your motivation to write.

It's decided! I dislike the Avast support team as much as the software. 100% removal and dislike from here until my death. What a joke of a company. Cya.

Oh and it seems Avast √úberevangelist should be titled newbie and new posters titled Avast √úberevangelist. I'm just saying where the sense actually is.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Eddy on October 22, 2016, 09:34:57 PM
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which doesn't include pup search
If it was for avast, I'm pretty sure they want to have it enabled by default.
However for legal reasons they are not allowed to have it enabled by default.
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Avast only needs to be running either when you are on-line or connecting external storage devices
Not true.
Certain malware is/can only be detected on-access.
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The average joe is not happy having a third party (outside their household) have such control over their pc.
avast doesn't have control over a users pc, only the user does.
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Almost like having captchas I can't blooming read but having a audio file to give the instruction. Make It Simpler Stupid instead of a MISS!
The capcha is only there the first three posts and it is working rather well helping to keep spammers away.
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I dislike the Avast support team
Did you ever submitted a ticket?
If not, you can't judge about it.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Stuart61 on October 24, 2016, 02:51:12 AM
Fair enough, about support team. The MISS comment refereed to Avast not the captcha.

Anyway, here is the solution. Have a quit button that disables the box needed, that allows a user to close task manager app. This button should be coded such that it will enable that setting again after a manual startup of Avast.

Having to manually do this, means that it is disablled  until enable, such that my Avast is still running at startup but without this option, and hence me telling Avast to Make it simple stupid. Most of the thread commenter's agreed having this function off leaves the computer vulnerable to malware or viruses closing avast. 

About the other stuff I wrote, it doesn't matter I dislike the software UI, Software control over pc (yes, because I cannot close easily even with admin privileges), and dislike the various tactics of pushing the pay for services at users, and also various different scans required.

Thanks for information about pups not on by default. Maybe make that a point for users who log in to activate it if they wish.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bob3160 on October 24, 2016, 03:50:18 AM
Hope you find something you like that allows you to simply shut it off. Good luck. :)
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Eddy on October 24, 2016, 09:10:02 AM
It is a real bad idea to make it easy to shutdown avast.
If the user can do it easily, then so can malware.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Asyn on October 24, 2016, 10:32:42 AM
It is a real bad idea to make it easy to shutdown avast.
If the user can do it easily, then so can malware.
+1
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bob3160 on October 24, 2016, 02:41:36 PM
If you're looking to shut it off easily, why bother installing it in the first place.
Obviously the first time it blocks something you don't like or, think isn't dangerous, you're going to kill the protection anyway.
As mentioned, if it's easy for you to kill, it's also easy for malware to do the same thing.
Your computer, your choice. I'm quite happy with it the way it is. :)
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Stuart61 on October 26, 2016, 03:59:56 AM
Hope you find something you like that allows you to simply shut it off. Good luck. :)


Yeh, numerous.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: ShadowScotsman on November 20, 2016, 03:25:47 PM
Its amazing how many people i this thread cannot understand that although you can add programs to a white-list or other methods to solve avast interfering, that is a time consuming process, and before doing that you may want to confirm that is en-fact the problem by temporarily disabling avast.

For anyone with this problem who got this far and somehow missed the solution on page 2 here is another.
1.Disable Avast self-defense module tick box (found in Avast - Setting - Troubleshooting - about the 4th item down the list)
2.Click ok to exit the window, and then confirm that you want to change those settings when it asks.
3.End the avast process from task manager.
4.Perform any testing/whatever you wanted it exited in the first place for
5.Important! after you have done your testing relaunch avast or restart your computer this will also relaunch avast
6.Make sure to turn the self defense module back on.

turning off your anti-virus isn't something to be taken lightly, but it shouldn't be impossible. yea its a bit of a pain to do it in avast but if every little script kiddie was able to force avast to close itself you would be complaining that it wasn't hard enough to close. just be aware that you are making your computer vulnerable if you disable it for any reason and due care should be taken.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: Eddy on November 20, 2016, 03:45:00 PM
There is a much better way if someone wants to test things.
Use a VM.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: bob3160 on November 22, 2018, 12:41:18 AM
Nothing that I would recommend or do on my system but this should do what you are requesting.
(https://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1542843406046-70375.png)
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: SirMrMcDudeGuy on August 05, 2020, 03:42:34 AM
Hey all, sorry to necro, but im having the same issue... Except after turning off self protection, I still cant end the process.
I recently updated avast, and since computer restart I've been having odd stuttering in various games. It was confused untill I checked my processes, and BOOP here avast is surging between 30 and 90% cpu ALL the time. Its rather strange. Like any good tech person I figured turn it off and turn it back on again. well when I interact with avast it spikes and becomes almost unresponsive for like 2 minutes, bottle-necking my computer to heck.

As I said I tried settings>troubleshooting>[uncheck Enable Self-Defense] and ive waited a nice 30 minutes. Its still denying me. I killed the shield while I was doing this and its still freaking out. any suggestions on how to murder this without uninstalling? I like avast, and have never had an issue with this.

Thanks in advance!

(also at time of writing its been viewed 82000 times)

UPDATE: nice full restart and update of drivers and its still doing it. Any help would be appreciated. I'd rather not have to uninstall.
Title: Re: How do you close avast?
Post by: DavidR on August 05, 2020, 11:28:21 AM
This definitely should be in its own new topic, much has changed in 10 years, regardless of it having 82000, views, which doesn't correlate 82000 people wanting to do this.

However if you read all of the topic you will see ways to do this temporarily, it shouldn't be easy to do this in a resident on-access antivirus program or malware could do it just as easily.