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Title: will avast work without IE?
Post by: gerrythegreat on August 04, 2004, 02:47:46 AM
I had problems upgrating my avast so I deleted it and tried to install it again and  when I did it told me I needed IE 4 or higher. problem is I have been using mozilla and have deleted IE to save space. Do I need to install it again?

thank you
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2004, 02:59:42 AM
With out IE, how are you updating your windows operating system?
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Negeltu on August 04, 2004, 03:12:20 AM
You cannot uninstall IE from the windows OS. :)  You CAN delete references to it.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: techie101 on August 04, 2004, 04:26:09 AM
Many computer functions within Windows are intergrated with IE.
You may find that you have lessened functionality and caused problems that you did not need.

IE does not take up that much space.  The fact that you use Mozilla should not be a reason to remove IE which is necessary for Windows Update.

I have Mozilla, Firefox and an IE overlay (Avant) on my computer.

Reconsider and reinstall.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2004, 04:32:30 AM
Hi Techie101,
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and an IE overlay (Avant) on my computer
Which requires that IE is on your system. :)
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Lisandro on August 04, 2004, 04:33:04 AM
avast! could not update... Help files could not be read... I'm not sure but you will have some troubles uninstalling IE. You can use other browser but IE has a lot of integrations under Windows  :'(
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: techie101 on August 04, 2004, 04:35:04 AM
bob,

Any overlay requires the base program to remain installed.

but....good to point out to the user.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: gerrythegreat on August 04, 2004, 05:05:43 AM
I have windows 98 and it is working fine without IE.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Staind on August 04, 2004, 05:09:15 AM
I heard that Windows98 has less crashes after you take off IE.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: gerrythegreat on August 04, 2004, 05:10:25 AM
this is the program I used to remove it.

http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Eddy on August 04, 2004, 09:36:17 AM
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Deleted IE to safe space
Better put the things you don't use on cd/dvd instead. (movies/music, things like that) or get another harddrive.
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I heard that Windows98 has less crashes after you take off IE.
Not true. Sure IE can give a error, but so can each application. 98se is running on one of my systems for about 7 years without any error at all.

I agree with Technical, just use a browser of your choice next to IE. Use IE only to go to windows update (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com) to get/install ALL security patches/updates.

Just put IE back on the system. start > control panel > add/remove > windows components
If you do like many people do
eg downloading music/movies, installing applications to test and such
perhaps it is time for a format and a clean install to really clean the system from application leftovers, unneeded registry entries and things like that. That will give you back quiet some space.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2004, 01:58:06 PM
gerrythegreat
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I have windows 98 and it is working fine without IE.
I would still like to know how you update your operating system with out IE installed????
You must not be using the MS update site. Or, maybe you arent updating at all????
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Eddy on August 04, 2004, 02:06:18 PM
Bob, each windows version (95 and up) has a update function build in. No need to go to the website for updates. But the website normally works much faster  and you can see/select what is updated or not :D

And I see people mixing up things here. IE can be integrated to the system but it depends on what version of windows you have. On 98(se) it is a standalone application and can be removed completely without causing problems for the system to function
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Goner on August 04, 2004, 02:28:37 PM
I would still like to know how you update your operating system with out IE installed????
easy, just go here - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Downloads/default.mspx - with Mozila or any other browser and download the patches ...
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Staind on August 04, 2004, 02:39:20 PM
Bob, aren't most MS patches IE / OE related? If both programs are not on your computer... :)
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2004, 03:09:43 PM
Stained
Your right if your using Linux, you don't need windows updates.

Artras
To use the update function requires IE.

Goner
Sorry, but my operating system is updated at the source. Not from a third party.

But, that's only my opinion. :)
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Eddy on August 04, 2004, 03:21:59 PM
For those who don't want to download all the updates each time after a fresh installation of windows. Updates/patches can be downloaded here (http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/). You can put them on a cd and use that to patch a system.

There is also a FREE(!) cd with many updates/patches including sp1. You can order it here (http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/cd/order.mspx). There are no costs for this at all. Everything is paid by MS including the shipping costs.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Staind on August 04, 2004, 04:01:56 PM
Stained
Your right if your using Linux, you don't need windows updates.
I meant if you were using Win98 and had IE removed.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Goner on August 04, 2004, 04:10:38 PM
Sorry, but my operating system is updated at the source. Not from a third party.
3rd party ?!?! did you actually read the URL ?? it's MicroSoft ... only instead of automagically updating, you download the patches as executables and run them.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2004, 04:24:45 PM
Hi Goner,
I appologize, I did misread the link.  :(

Stained
Then you would not be able to use the Windows Update function and have to do what Goner does.

Personally, I still pref. the update site then I'm sure I see all the updates that my system is lacking.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Lisandro on August 04, 2004, 05:47:31 PM
Artras, your link to windows update (http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/) give the version 4. Microsoft is on version 5 of windows update.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Eddy on August 04, 2004, 06:10:13 PM
Version 5 of the windows update catalog (http://v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v5consumer/default.aspx?ln=nl)
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: gerrythegreat on August 04, 2004, 06:15:16 PM
So can anyone tell me if there is a way I can use avast without IE ?  
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: MikeBCda on August 04, 2004, 06:18:58 PM
Artras, your link to windows update (http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/) give the version 4. Microsoft is on version 5 of windows update.

It's my understanding (and of course maybe I've misunderstood) that ver. 5 is maybe still sort-of-beta, and definitely still has problems.

And in any event, if you go to the ver. 4 site, the very first thing you get is "Checking for latest version of updater", and so far that hasn't said a word to me about ver. 5 or done anything except run like it always has.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Eddy on August 04, 2004, 06:27:29 PM
Both links are working. But there is a difference. The first one let you just download the updates/patches, the second one is automaticly installing them. That is the difference between windows update and the windows update catalog.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: gerrythegreat on August 04, 2004, 06:33:23 PM
I'm sorry for being impatient but I am trying to find out if there is a way that I can use avast without IE and it seems that this thead got directed to weither or not you can update windows without IE.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Staind on August 04, 2004, 07:03:16 PM
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Then you would not be able to use the Windows Update function and have to do what Goner does.
Yea, but my point was if you don't have IE or Outlook installed why would you need to patch their security holes?
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: DavidR on August 04, 2004, 08:30:41 PM
Bob, aren't most MS patches IE / OE related? If both programs are not on your computer... :)

They might well be but a number of them are OS patches.

You would be surprised what uses IE, windows explorer for a start, OE for the preview of emails (which is why OE is so vulnerable unless IE is kept up to date) and I think the help files you open and the help and support interface.
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2004, 09:22:11 PM
Can sombody please answer gerrythegreat's question?
He's the one that started this post. PLEASE!!!!!
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: Vlk on August 04, 2004, 09:28:38 PM
In theory, it should work. Naturally without the features that make direct use of IE (help files, iNews etc).

The core (engine, on-access scanner, Simple UI) is IE-free.

But of course, the best would be to try it out... ;)
Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: gerrythegreat on August 04, 2004, 10:54:01 PM
thank you Bob and VLK but I downloaded IE again lol didnt want to take a chance.


Title: Re:will avast work without IE?
Post by: bob3160 on August 04, 2004, 10:58:52 PM
Thanks Vlk