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Title: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 01:56:16 AM
Anyone here use QuickTime Alternative?
Pros?  Cons?  Do you recommend it?
Is it SECURE vs. the full latest QuickTime version?
Will QuickTime Alternative play MP3's straight from a link from a MyOpera file?
Or ONLY Files that are embedded in web pages?

I still have the OLD QuickTime version that gets installed by my AOL software.
It is so old that it is only like 2.6 Meg vs. the 32 Meg that is the latest version of QuickTime.  But, I really don't want to install the full latest version of QuickTime if QuickTime Alternative will do the job without problems or security risks.  I do not want to add a full 32 Meg to my already small 10 Gig Hard Drive if I can get away with only 18 Meg that is QuickTime Alternative.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2010, 02:12:46 AM
I used to use it on my old system and I didn't find any issues. I haven't got it on my current system as a) I'm not that much of a media user and b) even less when it came to quicktime formats. So I haven't come across a need for it.

The reason I went for QuickTime Alternative was QuickTime became a bloated behemoth and when installed wanted to take over the world including your PC and all medial file associations. Whereas QuickTime Alternative was much smaller and did what I told it to do and only associate itself with the quicktime media formats.

I think the main question is how much do you actually use QuickTime or rather only those media file formats you need quicktime or QuickTime Alternative for.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2010, 02:21:09 AM
Why not use jetAudio and cover all your media needs:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_jetaudio/ (http://www.filehippo.com/download_jetaudio/)
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2010, 03:51:44 AM
JetAudio is a 32MB download and would almost certainly be larger when installed.

Given what Chim said, I think that would be something he is trying to avoid bloat:
Quote from: Chim
I do not want to add a full 32 Meg to my already small 10 Gig Hard Drive if I can get away with only 18 Meg that is QuickTime Alternative.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 04:24:32 AM
Yep, David, for sure QuickTime did become a bloated behemoth ... going from my old version's 2.6 Meg to the current 32 Meg.  :o

Like you, David, I too am NOT much of a media player user.  I don't play Audio CDs on my computer.  YouTubes ... VERY rarely.  They have to be REALLY short because of my Dial Up.  So yeah, extremely limited VidClip usage.

I have Windows Media Player 11 installed.  I just uninstalled RealPlayer yesterday.
I really just want QuickTime (Or QuickTime Alternative) to be available if some content on a webpage requires it.  Plus, for the occasional Audio (Voice) Clip that some of my MyOpera friends will post up.  And to play the Music Clips that I periodically record from my Casio Keyboard with Audacity Recorder.  I end up converting those to MP3s.  I found out that those Music Clips and my friends' Voice Clips will by default be played by QuickTime when I'm on Opera Browser, which is what I always use.

That plus I wanted to upgrade to a new, more SECURE version of QuickTime.  While my computer has NOT been infected in years, the fact of the matter is that my OLD QuickTime has GOT to by now be a security risk.  So, I was just trying to cover that base.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 04:27:12 AM
Hmmm?  JetAudio, Eh, Bob?
Let me get a clarification.
Are you saying that JetAudio would cover ALL of the formats that are typically covered by my Windows Media Player 11 and QuickTime?  Are you saying that I could simply install JetAudio and uninstall both Windows Media Player 11 and QuickTime?

If that IS the case, then this just might be a good deal.  Cuz while JetAudio is 32 Meg ... by uninstalling Windows Media Player 11, I'd be getting rid of 50 Meg because it actually has 25 Meg for Windows Media Player 11 and another 25 Meg for Windows Media Player 11 Runtime ... whatever THAT is.  Then I'd also be getting rid of either QuickTime's 32 Meg or QuickTime Alternative's 18 Meg.

Either way, having exclusively JetAudio would be a good deal and allow me to regain some Hard Disk Space IF it really is All That and a Bag of Chips.

If I do opt for going with exclusively JetAudio though, I'd have to wait until I can get access to my sister's, friends', neighbors' or nephew's High Speed Internet to download it.  I am NOT gonna attempt downloading 32 Meg via my Dial Up.  :o

I did finish downloading QuickTime Alternative with my Dial Up a while ago though.  That was 18 Meg in around 1 hour and 50 minutes.  I'm gonna go install it right now.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Dch48 on September 25, 2010, 04:30:13 AM
I use QT Lite, It has browser plugins for the major browsers and lets you play MOV files in a player like Media player Classic. True to it's name, it's much lighter than the full QuickTime.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Alan Baxter on September 25, 2010, 05:43:31 AM
I did finish downloading QuickTime Alternative with my Dial Up a while ago though.  That was 18 Meg in around 1 hour and 50 minutes.  I'm gonna go install it right now.

As far as I can tell, none of the downloads of QuickTime Alternative include anything newer than the QuickTime 7.6.6 files, which are insecure.  Now that you've downloaded QuickTime Alternative -- which includes Media Player Classic -- download QT Lite 4.0.0.  QT Lite 4.0.0 updates the QuickTime components to version 7.6.7, which patches the QuickTime Player Streaming Debug Error Logging Buffer Overflow vulnerability (http://secunia.com/advisories/40729/).

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=9671.msg543440#msg543440
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 06:06:29 AM
That's odd.  Softpedia had mentioned:
"QT Lite contains exactly the same components as QuickTime Alternative. The ONLY difference between the two packs is that QT Lite does not contain Media Player Classic." And that QT Lite contained --  7.66.71.0 QT version.

Plus I had read elsewhere that QT Lite was a dead project.
What do y'all know about that?
That was one of the reasons I had gone with QuickTime Alternative.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 06:09:13 AM
So then IF I were to install QT Lite ... I'd have to install Media Player Classic separately?
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 06:13:15 AM
I'm curious as to what Bob will say regarding whether JetAudio can replace both my Windows Media Player 11 and QuickTime Alternative.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Alan Baxter on September 25, 2010, 06:21:11 AM
That's odd.  Softpedia had mentioned:
"QT Lite contains exactly the same components as QuickTime Alternative. The ONLY difference between the two packs is that QT Lite does not contain Media Player Classic." And that QT Lite contained --  7.66.71.0 QT version.

Odd indeed.
"QT Lite contains exactly the same components as QuickTime Alternative. The ONLY difference between the two packs is that QT Lite does not contain Media Player Classic." is true when QT Lite and QuickTime Alternative have the same version number, e.g. version 3.2.2, which contains the 7.6.6 components.  I couldn't find a 4.0.0 version of QuickTime Alternative yet yesterday when I last looked.  It doesn't matter though because I already have Media Player Classic.

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Plus I had read elsewhere that QT Lite was a dead project.
What do y'all know about that?
That was one of the reasons I had gone with QuickTime Alternative.

What you read elsewhere is incorrect.  Obviously QT Lite isn't dead.

So then IF I were to install QT Lite ... I'd have to install Media Player Classic separately?

Yes.

Edit: Softpedia links.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Codec-Packs-Video-Codecs/QuickTime-Lite.shtml
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Video-Players/QuickTime-Alternative.shtml
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 06:37:07 AM
Okay, thanks for the clarification, Alan.
I'll see if in the morning I download QT Lite.

Is all that other stuff necessary?
With QuickTime Alternative, I was prompted whether I wanted to install some MS Visual C++ something or other Distribution Package.  Do I NEED that?  What does that do?  It seemed to take a while to install.

And there were 2 other Apple "Prerequisites" that I reluctantly checked to go ahead and download because well ... it said "Prerequisites."
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Alan Baxter on September 25, 2010, 08:13:37 AM
You're welcome.

Is all that other stuff necessary?
With QuickTime Alternative, I was prompted whether I wanted to install some MS Visual C++ something or other Distribution Package.  Do I NEED that?  What does that do?  It seemed to take a while to install.

And there were 2 other Apple "Prerequisites" that I reluctantly checked to go ahead and download because well ... it said "Prerequisites."

Since all those things are checked by default in QuickTime Alternative 3.2.2, then you did the right thing to install them.  But it doesn't matter.  QT Lite will require you to uninstall QuickTime Alternative before you install it anyway.

Before you uninstall QuickTime Alternative though, make a copy of the Media Player Classic folder, D:\Program Files\QuickTime Alternative\Media Player Classic.  If I were you I'd copy it to D:\Program Files\Media Player Classic and then create a shortcut to D:\Program Files\Media Player Classic\mplayerc.exe on your desktop, or wherever you like to put stuff like that.

Uninstall QuickTime Alternative and then install QT Lite 4.0.0.  Let QT Lite install all the components it has checked by default.

Edit: Corrected shortcut.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: CraigB on September 25, 2010, 04:02:04 PM
VLC MEDIA PLAYER will do all your needs with ease plus be able to play quick time straight through your browser, plays all formats and video from your camera for and all codec's are are auto installed and setup including h264 for free.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2010, 04:25:09 PM
I'm curious as to what Bob will say regarding whether JetAudio can replace both my Windows Media Player 11 and QuickTime Alternative.
Sorry Chim but I'm asleep while you guys are awake....
The answer is yes and a whole lot more. Simply take a look at the link I had provided
and check out all of the features available in the Basic (free) version.
http://www.filehippo.com/download_jetaudio/ (http://www.filehippo.com/download_jetaudio/)

David,
I wasn't offering a replacement for only QuickTime but for virtually all media formats. (Audio and Video)
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
I know that, but I have found that over time jetaudio became very bloated, especially if you were on dial-up and there is no easy incremental update approach you have to download the complete package again. That is why I gave up on it on dial-up and ended up using WinAmp.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2010, 05:30:01 PM
VLC MEDIA PLAYER will do all your needs with ease plus be able to play quick time straight through your browser, plays all formats and video from your camera for and all codec's are are auto installed and setup including h264 for free.

I have tried VLC Media Player on a number of occasions and I have never managed to get it to work it is hugely frustrating. I tried a number of media players trying to get away from windows media player and ended up using WinAmp. For me that is enough as I'm not a great media user.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 06:10:36 PM
It is D-U-N ... DONE!
I uninstalled QuickTime Alternative 3.2.2 with Revo Uninstaller.
I then installed QT Lite 4.0.0 and Media Player Classic 6.4.9.1.
Things appear to be working fine.  :)

QUESTION:  Okay, The Media Player Classic was unzipped and thus as far as I could surmise, isn't per se installed / intertwined in Windows.  Of course, I could be wrong.  From what I read in the Info at FileHippo, Media Player Classic has the RealPlayer architecture and thus, I assume that means it can play RealPlayer Files.  However, would that be only RealPlayer Files that one manually / on demand opens up with Media Player Classic?  Or will Media Player Classic automatically be called upon to play any RealPlayer Files that I should encounter anywhere while browsing websites?  

If it's of any significance, I stuck the Media Player Classic Folder with the Media Player Classic .exe File in the QT Lite 4.0.0 Folder.  I don't know if that would ensure the "automatic" playing of any RealPlayer Files that I might come across.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 06:19:50 PM
Bob, JetAudio is my next project.  Just as soon as I can get access to High Speed Internet somewhere, I'll download it to my Flash Drive and bring it over here ... install it and try it out.  It's NOT likely to be today or tomorrow, but whenever it happens, I'll make the decision on whether to replace both my Windows Media Player 11 and QT Lite with JetAudio.

C/Net Download certainly gave it the review that it COULD very well be THE ONLY Media Player one needs.  If it can do everything and cover all the typical Audio / Video formats I encounter and do it with a smaller footprint, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 06:23:38 PM
Craig, I'll go read up on this VLC Player and see what all it can do.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Alan Baxter on September 25, 2010, 06:25:02 PM
QUESTION:  Okay, The Media Player Classic was unzipped and thus as far as I could surmise, isn't per se installed / intertwined in Windows.

Right.

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Of course, I could be wrong.  From what I read in the Info at FileHippo, Media Player Classic has the RealPlayer architecture and thus, I assume that means it can play RealPlayer Files.  However, would that be only RealPlayer Files that one manually / on demand opens up with Media Player Classic?  Or will Media Player Classic automatically be called upon to play any RealPlayer Files that I should encounter anywhere while browsing websites?

If I recall correctly, Media Player Classic will play Real Media files only if Real Alternative is installed too.  I have Real Alternative installed and Media Player Classic plays Real Media files fine for me, both ones embedded in websites and the few Real files I've downloaded.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/real_alternative.htm

Edit: I just remembered.  You'll probably need to configure MPC to automatically open Real Media files.  MPC > View > Options > Player > Formats > File extensions

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If it's of any significance, I stuck the Media Player Classic Folder with the Media Player Classic .exe File in the QT Lite 4.0.0 Folder.  I don't know if that would ensure the "automatic" playing of any RealPlayer Files that I might come across.

It doesn't matter where you put it.  I'd put it somewhere else though.  If you ever happen to uninstall QT Lite, Revo Uninstaller may remove the Media Player Classic folder too.  But no big deal.  You can always download MPC again.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Media_Player_Classic.htm
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Alan Baxter on September 25, 2010, 06:40:17 PM
@Chim:
I added the following edit to my previous post.
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I just remembered.  You'll probably need to configure MPC to automatically open Real Media files.  MPC > View > Options > Player > Formats > File extensions
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 07:22:25 PM
Quote from: Chim
If it's of any significance, I stuck the Media Player Classic Folder with the Media Player Classic .exe File in the QT Lite 4.0.0 Folder.  I don't know if that would ensure the "automatic" playing of any RealPlayer Files that I might come across.

It doesn't matter where you put it.  I'd put it somewhere else though.  If you ever happen to uninstall QT Lite, Revo Uninstaller may remove the Media Player Classic folder too.  But no big deal.  You can always download MPC again.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Media_Player_Classic.htm

I think you have a good point, Alan.  I did a trial run of Media Player Classic and heck ... it pretty much plays any Audio & Video Files I throw at it.  And some Videos it even plays them BETTER than Windows Media Player 11.  I have some Videos that are jumpy and pause and stuff with Windows Media Player 11.  Media Player Classic played them much better, MUCH more smoothly.  So, now I'm contemplating ... Heck!  If that's the case, if those are the results, I could replace Windows Media Player 11 with Media Player Classic.  I don't need most of the functions that come with Windows Media Player 11.  And Media Player Classic of course has a much smaller footprint than Windows Media Player 11.  I think the reason Windows Media Player 11 plays some of those Videos jumpy and with pauses is because with its HUGE size, Windows Media Player 11 is a liability with my very old, very slow and very underpowered computer.  Thus, Media Player Classic with its much smaller size gets to use the available RAM much more efficiently.

Just one question though.  I tried to play an Audio CD with Media Player Classic.
I couldn't get it to work.  It seemed to recognize the CD since it displayed the title of the CD.  But, then when I clicked on Open Disk, it said it couldn't find it.  How DO you get Media Player Classic to play a CD?  Is it NOT playing the CD because currently Windows Media Player 11 is the DEFAULT Player for CDs?  Is that what's up?
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 07:32:45 PM
Quote from: Alan Baxter
If I recall correctly, Media Player Classic will play Real Media files only if Real Alternative is installed too.  I have Real Alternative installed and Media Player Classic plays Real Media files fine for me, both ones embedded in websites and the few Real files I've downloaded.
Doh!  I can't afford to install Real Alternative also in order to get Media Player Classic to play RealPlayer files.

While I'm updating some Apps for the sake of having the latest and most SECURE versions ... I'm also preferably trying to get rid of as much dead wood as possible.  I'm trying to create FREE SPACE on my Hard Drive whenever possible due to my 10 Gig Hard Drive.

So, Ehhh, for now I'll just leave the RealPlayer situation alone unless I actually notice that I'm encountering problems during Browsing because of my computer's current NO RealPlayer installed status.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
You could get hold of a small hard disk as a second internal drive (40GB would be very cheap as they are very small nowadays), use that for your data files and use your first drive primarily for windows and program installations.

Or you could get an external USB drive to archive your data files, etc..
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2010, 07:38:13 PM
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due to my 10 Gig Hard Drive
I could probably send you larger one.  :)
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2010, 07:50:20 PM
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due to my 10 Gig Hard Drive
I could probably send you larger one.  :)

I would have offered, but postage is probably more costly than if you had to buy one now ;D

I have a few hard drive around and two in my old system, that I haven't used more than a handful of times in the last 18 months, I really should learn to recycle.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: CraigB on September 25, 2010, 08:02:31 PM
Craig, I'll go read up on this VLC Player and see what all it can do.
It'll do everything that mediaplayer classic, realplayer and quicktime can do and i use it to play my decrypted dvd iso's. Just right click on any file and choose play with vlc and away you go. While its installing it will ask or have a tick section  for if you want to have it automaticaly play quicktime file's that you come across when browsing, but you dont have to place files here and there and set things up to work with other things, it just does it. Dont forget to set up your auto plays so it'll play a disc as soon as you pop one in. The only thing i found it cant do is play my bluray's, not in the free version anyway but i think they have plan's for a paid version release soon that will.I think it's about a 17 meg download but once its on system about 70meg
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 08:10:42 PM
Oh I already do utilize my Flash Drives to create Free Space on my Hard Drive.
For example, I use Portable versions of:  CCleaner, FastStone Image Viewer, IZArc, Audacity Recorder and Revo Uninstaller.  I also have FirefoxPortable ... not that I ever really use it.  I really only use that FirefoxPortable when I have to test whether a certain problem is Opera-related ... or for testing Blog Design issues.  I also have GIMP Portable, but there again, I never use it.  I use Photoshop.  So yeah, I save some space with those Portable Apps.

I tried the SAS Portable version once, but had problems getting it to run.
And also, if I understand correctly, with that Portable version, you don't really check for and download Updates.  Apparently the download of the Portable SAS already has the latest Updates.  Well, Sheesh!  That would only serve for 1 day.  Then you'd have to download an ENTIRE NEW batch of SAS Portable.

And IF space ever really got tight, I COULD operate with my Photos only on my Flash Drives instead of having them also on my Hard Drive.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Dch48 on September 25, 2010, 09:05:04 PM
If you have the ffdshow codec either from installing it seperately or as part of the excellent free program Format Factory, you can play real player files. As far as I know, however, I never encounter anything in that format and avoid it as much as I can.

I actually use Media Player 10 for almost everything and only use MPC (Media player Classic) when I want to be able to see more information about the file such as codecs used, bit rates, etc. It gives a lot more info than WMP but WMP has better sound for CD's and mp3's.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2010, 09:43:48 PM
The SAS Portable really only needs to serve for one day, its purpose is to be used when you otherwise can't install SAS or other security applications due to malware infection, etc.

Your photos need to be on at least two separate locations (hard disk/USB flash drive/disks, etc.), if one drive should fail you need to have back-ups stored on a different drive ore you are lost. That is a major reason for having two hard disks and possibly off-system back-up locations (external hard disk, USB flash drive.

I have an absolutely tiny 8GB USB Flash drive, which is almost as big as your drive ;D
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 10:33:08 PM
Craig, it'll probably be tomorrow morning before I download VLC Player and try it out.  At 18 Meg, that's close to a 2-hour download.  I already killed that same amount this morning downloading QT Lite and Media Player Classic.  I don't want to kill so much time in 1 day just downloading.  Yeah, my computer is too underpowered to do 2 things at once.  Whenever I'm downloading something, it's gotta be left alone until it finishes.  Otherwise it'll virtually assuredly throw an error as the download slows to a crawl.

Do you know how many actual MegaBytes it unpacks to once it's actually installed?
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 10:37:03 PM
David, I do currently have my photos on 2 Flash Drives as well as on my Hard Drive.
I definitely did NOT want to operate with just 1 Flash Drive as my backup.

Yep, your Flash Drive certainly IS very small.  Don't know that I've seen a smaller one before.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 25, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
Dch, I always wondered whether Windows Media Player 10 would work on Windows XP.
I see you have it working on Windows XP.
I have Windows Media Player 10 on my backup computer, my Windows 98SE Gateway.
I've gotten better results from Windows Media Player 10 than than from 11.

However, wouldn't Windows Media Player 10 be a security risk by now?
As I recall, on my Gateway, I used to have to download about 2 Windows 98SE Updates for Windows Media Player 10 security issues.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Alan Baxter on September 25, 2010, 10:53:38 PM
Do you know how many actual MegaBytes it unpacks to once it's actually installed?

VLC unpacks to 75MB on Windows.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2010, 10:58:40 PM
<snip>
Yep, your Flash Drive certainly IS very small.  Don't know that I've seen a smaller one before.

Yes only just over 1 inch by a half inch, easily lost if you don't have it on a long piece of cord ;D
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Alan Baxter on September 26, 2010, 01:58:38 AM
Just one question though.  I tried to play an Audio CD with Media Player Classic.
I couldn't get it to work.  It seemed to recognize the CD since it displayed the title of the CD.  But, then when I clicked on Open Disk, it said it couldn't find it.  How DO you get Media Player Classic to play a CD?  Is it NOT playing the CD because currently Windows Media Player 11 is the DEFAULT Player for CDs?  Is that what's up?

I don't know.  I don't have any application configured to automatically play CDs.  I usually don't play them on my computer, but just now I tried out playing one with MPC. File > Open Disc finds Audio CD (G:) for me and plays it with no problem. (It's not a commercial CD.  Just one that someone had burned for me.  I guess that may be why it's titled Audio CD)
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Chim on September 26, 2010, 02:19:23 AM
It must have been some temporary glitch.  I got Media Player Classic to play Audio CDs.

So, VLC Player unpacks to 75 Meg, huh?
Okay, thanks.  I'll try it tomorrow.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: CraigB on September 26, 2010, 06:10:59 AM
It must have been some temporary glitch.  I got Media Player Classic to play Audio CDs.

So, VLC Player unpacks to 75 Meg, huh?
Okay, thanks.  I'll try it tomorrow.
Yes 75meg sounds right. Thats the easy thing with vlc, you dont have to get! just right click whatever file and chose play with vlc  :)
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Omid Farhang on September 26, 2010, 01:50:27 PM
as what I know QuickTime Alternative mainly is a browser plugin more than being a QuickTime codec in computer (but it has Move Splitter, so it will help play some files too).

but I prefer to don't use it, I use Win7Codeck Pack in my computer so I can play every kind of media files in my computer using Windows Media Player or media player classic or my other favorite media players. so instead of install QuickTime alternative, I download media files in my computer and then play them using my own player instead of watch or listen inside browser. also it's safer too! (to have fewer plugins inside player).
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: CraigB on September 26, 2010, 03:30:16 PM
as what I know QuickTime Alternative mainly is a browser plugin more than being a QuickTime codec in computer (but it has Move Splitter, so it will help play some files too).

but I prefer to don't use it, I use Win7Codeck Pack in my computer so I can play every kind of media files in my computer using Windows Media Player or media player classic or my other favorite media players. so instead of install QuickTime alternative, I download media files in my computer and then play them using my own player instead of watch or listen inside browser. also it's safer too! (to have fewer plugins inside player).
With the codec pack's you generaly have to place certain codec's into the area's that you want to use them and the full codec pack is about 60 to 80meg and you still have  windows media player and media player classic, with vlc you can delet all the windows media stuff and classic player stuff and it will play quicktime files on your computer or through browser and wmv, mvk,iso and any other file you can think of.
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Alan Baxter on September 26, 2010, 05:15:45 PM
as what I know QuickTime Alternative mainly is a browser plugin more than being a QuickTime codec in computer (but it has Move Splitter, so it will help play some files too).

Well, actually no, QuickTime Alternative (QTA) is both a browser plugin and a codec that's used by Media Player Classic (MPC) for standalone playing of QuickTime files.  (QuickTime Alternative Lite aka QT Lite is usually the same thing as QTA, but distributed without MPC.)  Since you don't need or actually use QTA, Omid, it's understandable you could be misinformed about that.

Similary, Real Alternative (RA) is both a browser plugin and a codec that's required by MPC for standalone playing of Real media files.  I use a MPC fork, Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HT), as my default media player because it has more features than MPC and is still in very active development.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/real_alternative.htm
http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

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but I prefer to don't use it, I use Win7Codeck Pack in my computer so I can play every kind of media files in my computer using Windows Media Player or media player classic or my other favorite media players. so instead of install QuickTime alternative, I download media files in my computer and then play them using my own player instead of watch or listen inside browser. also it's safer too! (to have fewer plugins inside player).

At times I use VLC media player because it has some features that MPC-HT doesn't.  As explained by others elsewhere, VLC has all the codecs it needs built right in.  It even supports most QuickTime and Real files.  VLC also provides browser plugins, but I use QTA and RA for that.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Title: Re: QuickTime Alternative
Post by: Dch48 on September 26, 2010, 10:58:44 PM
Dch, I always wondered whether Windows Media Player 10 would work on Windows XP.
I see you have it working on Windows XP.
I have Windows Media Player 10 on my backup computer, my Windows 98SE Gateway.
I've gotten better results from Windows Media Player 10 than than from 11.

However, wouldn't Windows Media Player 10 be a security risk by now?
As I recall, on my Gateway, I used to have to download about 2 Windows 98SE Updates for Windows Media Player 10 security issues.
Media Player 10 is offered as an update for XP by Microsoft Update and I've never had any problems running it. WMP 11 is also available but I never got that for two reasons. I prefer 10 and 11 caused a conflict with my Sonic Burning suite. I have recently replaced Sonic with the Ashampoo burning app so there wouldn't be any conflict problem but I still prefer version 10. If WMP 10 was a security risk, I'm sure the upgrade to 11 wouldn't be offered only as an optional update by Microsoft. There have been a number of security updates that applied to v10 which I have always installed.