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Title: Cookienator?
Post by: Yezinki on November 18, 2010, 02:25:46 PM
The moment I startup using XP & log on to Windows live, Yahoo IM, & open a couple pages of IE8 /google, it displays at least 15 potentially evil cookies with life ranging from a few months to years.

Are they necessary/essential or can they be blocked some way, coz Cookienator is only on demand or boot time?

Could making G Chrome as default in place of IE help?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: YoKenny on November 18, 2010, 02:41:54 PM
Cookies are not evil but necessary to keep Log in information.

Cookies: What They Are, Why You Are In Charge
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cookies.mspx

How Internet Cookies Work
http://www.howstuffworks.com/cookie.htm
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: Lisandro on November 18, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
Will you really worry about cookies?
CCleaner could do the job from time to time...
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: YoKenny on November 18, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Will you really worry about cookies?
CCleaner could do the job from time to time...
+1
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 18, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
but be careful some cookies are still holds your username and password which easy to steal. if you check always log-in it store to cookies and it become a tracking cookie :D
passwords stealer use your cookies to steal your account. and it is possible now in win7 because c:/document and setting is not accessible so tracking cookies intact and easy to steal your username and password ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: Yezinki on November 18, 2010, 03:04:36 PM
but be careful some cookies are still holds your username and password which easy to steal. if you check always log-in it store to cookies and it become a tracking cookie :D
passwords stealer use your cookies to steal your account. and it is possible now in win7 because c:/document and setting is not accessible so tracking cookies intact and easy to steal your username and password ;D ;D ;D

So you mean to say always log in shouldnt be checked & user name/password typed each time any where on the web?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: YoKenny on November 18, 2010, 03:10:27 PM
I think bong2x is paranoid. ;) 
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 18, 2010, 03:28:02 PM
but be careful some cookies are still holds your username and password which easy to steal. if you check always log-in it store to cookies and it become a tracking cookie :D
passwords stealer use your cookies to steal your account. and it is possible now in win7 because c:/document and setting is not accessible so tracking cookies intact and easy to steal your username and password ;D ;D ;D

So you mean to say always log in shouldnt be checked & user name/password typed each time any where on the web?

Thanks.
sort of but that only 55% possibility that your cookies did not stored your username and password. look try to read one of the cookies sometimes  ;)
edit if you have a code translator ;)

I think bong2x is paranoid. ;) 

kenny-yo :D

if paranoid refer to the group of people who always watch. arm with the question "Why they do this" "for what"
and dig in to the deepest motive to get an answer ;D ;D ;D will i don't know if im the one them ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 18, 2010, 04:10:40 PM
I think bong2x has had to many bong's, Im buggered if i can understand him  ;D
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: YoKenny on November 18, 2010, 04:29:58 PM
I think bong2x has had to many bong's, Im buggered if i can understand him  ;D
I think so as well.  ;)
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: Darth.Mikey on November 19, 2010, 05:18:29 PM
Personally i have my browser set so that it cleans them out when the browser closes...
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 19, 2010, 05:36:54 PM
Personally i have my browser set so that it cleans them out when the browser closes...
Me to but windows does a pretty crap job of deleting them, ccleaner get's rid of the stubborn one's for me.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: Darth.Mikey on November 19, 2010, 09:14:44 PM
Personally i have my browser set so that it cleans them out when the browser closes...
Me to but windows does a pretty crap job of deleting them, ccleaner get's rid of the stubborn one's for me.

What's windows got to do with it ?
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: jaydeee on November 20, 2010, 01:11:53 AM
I use ccleaner to clean all of this :)
also in firefox I regularly clean it.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 20, 2010, 10:15:57 AM
Personally i have my browser set so that it cleans them out when the browser closes...
Me to but windows does a pretty crap job of deleting them, ccleaner get's rid of the stubborn one's for me.

What's windows got to do with it ?
Not sure what browser you use but im using windows internet explorer 9, thats what windows has got to do with it.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 20, 2010, 10:21:33 AM
Not sure what browser you use but im using windows internet explorer 9, thats what windows has got to do with it.
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Congrats!!!
IE9 update survivors ;D ;D ;D

mine SAS is still the best and compatible with avast :)
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 20, 2010, 11:03:37 AM
bong2x, you would need to have something more than xp to make that assumption  ;D, there has been very few problems with ie9 and none on my end.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: YoKenny on November 20, 2010, 01:04:45 PM
bong2x, you would need to have something more than xp to make that assumption  ;D, there has been very few problems with ie9 and none on my end.

+1
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 20, 2010, 01:16:10 PM
bong2x, you would need to have something more than xp to make that assumption  ;D, there has been very few problems with ie9 and none on my end.

+1


kenny-yo, cheers

i did try it now and im still alive  ;D ;D ;D

after download window kb and update to IE9.

update go smoothly ;D ;D ;D

Thanks!!!!
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: YoKenny on November 20, 2010, 01:23:23 PM
after download window kb and update to IE9.

How did you update to IE9 on XP?

Dear XP users: No IE9 for you (Listen up people, XP is dead!)
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/dear-xp-users-no-ie9-for-you-listen-up-people-xp-is-dead/9721
Microsoft: IE9 will never run on Windows XP
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/16/no_ie9_9_on_windows_xp

Maybe your signature is not complete ???
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 20, 2010, 01:27:13 PM
Bong2x you should update your sig if you are running window's 7.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 20, 2010, 01:38:02 PM
okay i will put everything in my sig thanks!!!

Edit: owss soorrrrrrryyyyyyy!!!!
if i put it all its more than 300 char
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: rdmaloyjr on November 20, 2010, 02:54:19 PM
after download window kb and update to IE9.

How did you update to IE9 on XP?

Dear XP users: No IE9 for you (Listen up people, XP is dead!)
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/dear-xp-users-no-ie9-for-you-listen-up-people-xp-is-dead/9721
Microsoft: IE9 will never run on Windows XP
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/16/no_ie9_9_on_windows_xp

Maybe your signature is not complete ???

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Dear XP users: No IE9 for you (Listen up people, XP is dead!)

As long as my XP computer is working XP isn't dead.

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Microsoft: IE9 will never run on Windows XP

Who wants to use IE ??? ::)
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 20, 2010, 03:06:04 PM
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As long as my XP computer is working XP isn't dead.
  ;D ;D ;D
missmatch!!!!

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Who wants to use IE   ??? ::)

me ;D ;D ;D to test if what is new :D and if it is safe web surf
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 20, 2010, 03:59:26 PM
after download window kb and update to IE9.

How did you update to IE9 on XP?

Dear XP users: No IE9 for you (Listen up people, XP is dead!)
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/dear-xp-users-no-ie9-for-you-listen-up-people-xp-is-dead/9721
Microsoft: IE9 will never run on Windows XP
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/16/no_ie9_9_on_windows_xp

Maybe your signature is not complete ???

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Dear XP users: No IE9 for you (Listen up people, XP is dead!)

As long as my XP computer is working XP isn't dead.

Quote
Microsoft: IE9 will never run on Windows XP

Who wants to use IE ??? ::)
Maybe you dont use it but more people use explorer than any other browser and with all the new feature's in ie9 plus full hardware acceleration it is looking like gaining an even bigger share of the market.
I think opera is only something like 2% of the market so it's more like who want's to use opera :)
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: rdmaloyjr on November 20, 2010, 06:41:21 PM
Most people that use IE do so because they don't know there are better browsers.

Often when I ask someone "Which browser do you use?", I get "What's a browser?"

People that use Firefox use it because they think it is an OS, they regard extentions

as programs they download. ;D ;D ;D

I will probably upgrade to IE 9 when it comes out of beta.  I will do so for the security updates.

IE's security weaknesses weaken Windows OS's.

I sometimes use IE 8 on 7 64bit as I'm testing the Adobe Square Flash Player Beta for 64bit IE.

The only other time I use IE is for logmein.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 20, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
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I will probably upgrade to IE 9 when it comes out of beta.

try it now man its smoken  :D

experience the defference between preview IE :D :D

maybe this IE9 Love my system ;) very smooth. :D

Regards!!!
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 20, 2010, 07:22:09 PM
Most people that use IE do so because they don't know there are better browsers.

Often when I ask someone "Which browser do you use?", I get "What's a browser?"

People that use Firefox use it because they think it is an OS, they regard extentions

as programs they download. ;D ;D ;D

I will probably upgrade to IE 9 when it comes out of beta.  I will do so for the security updates.

IE's security weaknesses weaken Windows OS's.

I sometimes use IE 8 on 7 64bit as I'm testing the Adobe Square Flash Player Beta for 64bit IE.

The only other time I use IE is for logmein.
I tried the other mainsteam browser's and kept coming back to ie especially ie9 but i still prefered ie 8 to the other browser's as well.
Firefox started slowing down alot and crashing now and then from 3.5 up to 3.6 for me and from what im reading in the reviews the 4 versions are slowing up more and people are leaving firefox in there droves, i never trusted google ethically enough to stick with chrome and opera wasn't to bad, quite fast as well but there was just to much going on in that browser, it needed to be simpler. But everyone to there own, i mainly just stick with ie because it does everything i need and it's simple :)
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: hayc59 on November 20, 2010, 07:31:07 PM
I would love to know how you
place IE9 on windows XP Pro also ;)
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: DavidR on November 20, 2010, 08:12:52 PM
Short answer is you can't it isn't a supported OS.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: Omid Farhang on November 20, 2010, 08:54:33 PM
Who wants to use IE ??? ::)
Me!! Win XP + IE6 is best system to collect new and old malwares from internet  ;D
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 20, 2010, 09:00:59 PM
Who wants to use IE ??? ::)
Me!! Win XP + IE6 is best system to collect new and old malwares from internet  ;D

me!!! WinMe+IE is the best sofware for fishing Viruses and Malware.
Collection,And experimentation is the Motives ;D ;D ;D

Edit: Kids Don't Try This at Home ;D ;D ;D . this idea is just like catching cocroach with a dynamite!!!

Best Regards!!!!

Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: 13thSlayer on November 20, 2010, 09:33:58 PM
Who wants to use IE ??? ::)
Me!! Win XP + IE6 is best system to collect new and old malwares from internet  ;D

me!!! WinMe+IE is the best sofware for fishing Viruses and Malware.
Collection,And experimentation is the Motives ;D ;D ;D

Edit: Kids Don't Try This at Home ;D ;D ;D . this idea is just like catching cocroach with a dynamite!!!

Best Regards!!!!


Or do try within a virtual machine.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: Omid Farhang on November 20, 2010, 10:13:51 PM
Or do try within a virtual machine.
Indeed! just to take a snapshot and restore after running each malware, no one like to reformat hard drive a few times everyday!  ;D
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 20, 2010, 10:23:53 PM
Or do try within a virtual machine.
Indeed! just to take a snapshot and restore after running each malware, no one like to reformat hard drive a few times everyday!  ;D

OOpppp!!! that foul ;D ;D ;D Root kit can stay in un-partition HDD
Even you reformat your drive still there is an 8GB or more lift as a partition Margin.

Regards!!! 
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: Darth.Mikey on November 21, 2010, 09:48:46 AM
Personally i have my browser set so that it cleans them out when the browser closes...
Me to but windows does a pretty crap job of deleting them, ccleaner get's rid of the stubborn one's for me.

What's windows got to do with it ?
Not sure what browser you use but im using windows internet explorer 9, thats what windows has got to do with it.

Ekhhhhm. I use Chrome but that doesn't matter in this case. Windows is an Operating System and an Internet Browser is a program that runs on an Operating System. That OS can be either Windows, Mac OS, a Linux distro  etc. So your statement of
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Me to but windows does a pretty crap job of deleting them, ccleaner get's rid of the stubborn one's for me.
is incorrect. Windows doesn't delete your cookies, it's your browser. Browsers run on different OSes. An OS and a Browser are 2 different programs, they are not one and the same as your statement implies.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 21, 2010, 10:35:22 AM
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Windows doesn't delete your cookies, it's your browser. Browsers run on different OSes. An OS and a Browser are 2 different programs, they are not one and the same as your statement implies.

cookies also stored at windows folder and that cookies hold your Username and password
and only a particular browser can read that cookies, if you did log-in at site just don't forget to click on "never at this site"
so that windows do not stored your username and password within the folder.

if you are using IE8,IE9 you can configure like this (see picture)

Regards!!!
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: Darth.Mikey on November 21, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
@bong2x: You are not getting my point at all. Go and have another hit from your bong, maybe it will help...
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 21, 2010, 11:33:42 AM
Personally i have my browser set so that it cleans them out when the browser closes...
Me to but windows does a pretty crap job of deleting them, ccleaner get's rid of the stubborn one's for me.

What's windows got to do with it ?
Not sure what browser you use but im using windows internet explorer 9, thats what windows has got to do with it.

Ekhhhhm. I use Chrome but that doesn't matter in this case. Windows is an Operating System and an Internet Browser is a program that runs on an Operating System. That OS can be either Windows, Mac OS, a Linux distro  etc. So your statement of
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Me to but windows does a pretty crap job of deleting them, ccleaner get's rid of the stubborn one's for me.
is incorrect. Windows doesn't delete your cookies, it's your browser. Browsers run on different OSes. An OS and a Browser are 2 different programs, they are not one and the same as your statement implies.
I know it's the browser that delets the cookie's and ie is a program by windows / microsoft, that's what i mean when i said windows does a crap job of cleaning.
Dont go trying to get picky over the fine print. :)
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: YoKenny on November 21, 2010, 01:28:12 PM
I know it's the browser that delets the cookie's and ie is a program by windows / microsoft, that's what i mean when i said windows does a crap job of cleaning.
Dont go trying to get picky over the fine print. :)

I agree.

I'm glad I'm not a crusty old pedantic.  ;)
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1. ostentatious in one's learning.
2. overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching.
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: bong2x on November 21, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
 yokenny ;D ;D ;D that picture belong to cookie monster  ??? ???
is that the picture of old cookie monster ???

OFF topic!!!
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: CraigB on November 21, 2010, 01:47:44 PM
yokenny ;D ;D ;D that picture belong to cookie monster  ??? ???
is that the picture of old cookie monster ???

OFF topic!!!
That's from the muppet's, used to love that show when i was younger :)
Title: Re: Cookienator?
Post by: YoKenny on November 21, 2010, 01:58:23 PM
is that the picture of old cookie monster ???
Actually I look like the one on the left.  ;D