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Title: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: brhokla on November 19, 2010, 10:25:20 PM
Been toying with the idea of trying out this new Comodo product.  I hear it's almost hard to get it infected even if you are trying too.  Anybody with any experience using Comodo's newest AV product?
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: YoKenny on November 19, 2010, 10:41:41 PM
You can not use 2 anti virus applications.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Asyn on November 19, 2010, 10:51:34 PM
Been toying with the idea of trying out this new Comodo product.  I hear it's almost hard to get it infected even if you are trying too.  Anybody with any experience using Comodo's newest AV product?

Forget about it... ;)
The firewall is ok, though.
asyn
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: SteveNChamp on November 19, 2010, 10:57:47 PM
In addition to running 2 antivirus programs, I have not had the best of experiences with Commodo products. The firewall is almost too aggressive. In addition, it has caused every version of Windows I've had to crash and has also caused system file errors that running sfc.exe thru command prompt (administrator mode) cannot repair, causing me to have to reinstall the OS from scratch. Ever since I discovered Avast back in 2003, starting with the free version, it has never caused problems with the various computers that I have owned. I finally got the paid version of Avast Internet Security Suite, and it has been incredible on my home network. I can't brag enough and it has never caused a single error on my OS. My only dissapointment, is that the system I have upgraded to is a 64 bit system and I can't run a boot-time scan. I can see I am going to be posting something to the "Wish List" now.  :) But, back to Commodo products...this is my own opinion...they really need to find out what is causing their products to create errors and system file corruptions before the even release another product. Hope this helps in making a decision.  :)
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Sammo on November 19, 2010, 11:30:35 PM
Been toying with the idea of trying out this new Comodo product.  I hear it's almost hard to get it infected even if you are trying too.  Anybody with any experience using Comodo's newest AV product?

Comodo AV and CIS both failed the latest VB-100 test. Avast, as usual, passed it.

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/2010/10

I also find that if you use Comodo firewall only and avast that Comodo seems to cause a lot of CPU activity constantly. That's why I use Online Armor along with avast.

Here is a link to tests of several av's including avast and Comodo. Avast gets the Gold award.

http://translate.google.pl/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/Test-darmowych-programow-antywirusowych-2011,Artykul,21381.html&act=url

Also, see the attached graphic for a test results grid with many of the popular av's.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: hmonk on November 20, 2010, 07:50:31 AM
I have used both Comodo suite and just the firewall. You can go to Matousec http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php (http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php) and note that the free Comodo Suite is the highest rated of any available, free or retail. You can read a short blurb of who they are at http://www.matousec.com/matousec/about-us.php (http://www.matousec.com/matousec/about-us.php).

You can also go to AV-Comparatives at http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews (http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews) and in the left frame click on various tests to see how various apps performed. AV-Test at http://www.av-test.org/certifications  (http://www.av-test.org/certifications)is another good testing site.

Although it is very highly rated, I dumped the Comodo Suite primarily to get rid of the AV component; I do use the stand-alone firewall only (which is identical to that which is bundled in the suite). I did this because I live in a very remote area with no broadband access so I am limited to dialup. The issue with Comodo has always been its cmdagent.exe which can be a bit of a bandwidth hog. Apart from that, I never had any issues with it and suspect that with a broadband connection it would function very well.

You can read over the various reviews which you may find very interesting: Avast is rated anywhere from so-so to OK depending on the site . In the end, I think be it Comodo, Avast, Avira, AVG, you are not going to get into any trouble unless you frequent torrents, dot ru sites, or other obviously risky links.

Monk     
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Vladimyr on November 20, 2010, 11:35:10 AM
avast! will automatically protect your machine, stopping most malware most of the time, with little or no user intervention, and come up with the occasional false positive.

In order for CIS to stop almost all malware, they haven't made it any more intelligent, what they've done is move the goal posts! - and added the D+ "sandbox" as a damage-limiting safety-net.
CIS's target area is anything that it doesn't know and trust, which includes many safe, clean & otherwise non-malicious files. Anything not on its whitelist will be stopped or "sandboxed" in partially-limited mode, which is not truly virtualized, it's just given limited system access rights.

My opinion then? If you like to spend a lot of time fiddling with your security application(s), setting permissions, manually adding items to "My Trusted Files", responding to inanely worded alerts offering a range options which though similar sounding - are clearly intended to be understood to be different, reading "leak tests" which co-rate the ability of AV products to "perform" in the same manner as a dumb firewall or HIPS, I could go on... If you trust Comodo with your OS installation - give it a go. If you like it, keep it.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Yance on November 20, 2010, 12:07:38 PM
Yes, Comodo Internet Security make the windows become very slow if we are do the mannual scan. But i use it with avast 5 free in my computer. It help avast blocking the virus when not yet known by avast and vice versa. I think the result is very good!
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Katt.is.here on November 20, 2010, 12:16:01 PM
Hi I just joined yesterday, because I just moved from comodo to Avast. I used CIS for about 4 years everything was great until they decided to change it. I tried the sandbox lol things still got through, cloud scanning froze my computer to a standstill. I really don't advice using it, but to each his own. I'm using xp , but that doesn't seem to matter. My daughter called me today after she updated to comodo version 5. Her whole hard drive crashed, she can't even start it in safe mode. And she is using vista. My advice is please don't try it. I went back to an older version of comodo and using the firewall only, but after doing a lot of research I am thinking about using Outpost.  
 
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: osants911 on November 20, 2010, 12:18:35 PM
Yes, Comodo Internet Security make the windows become very slow if we are do the mannual scan. But i use it with avast 5 free in my computer. It help avast blocking the virus when not yet known by avast and vice versa. I think the result is very good!

You should not use 2 AV applications on a OS!

But, you can combine Comodo Firewall, D+ with avast free.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Yance on November 20, 2010, 12:40:05 PM
Yes, Comodo Internet Security make the windows become very slow if we are do the mannual scan. But i use it with avast 5 free in my computer. It help avast blocking the virus when not yet known by avast and vice versa. I think the result is very good!

You should not use 2 AV applications on a OS!

But, you can combine Comodo Firewall, D+ with avast free.
But so far everything is going well, even better. Do I have to uninstall the Comodo Antivirus and just intalling their firewall?
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: osants911 on November 20, 2010, 12:52:17 PM
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But so far everything is going well, even better. Do I have to uninstall the Comodo Antivirus and just intalling their firewall?

Yes, having 2 AVs might cause driver confliction between avast and comodo.
And you can uninstall Comodo AV by going to add or remove program->Comodo Internet Security->deselect AV component and you are done!
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: ronnycopeh on November 20, 2010, 02:40:32 PM
I am using Comodo firewall with avast pro and its great and fast, no slow downs.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Asyn on November 20, 2010, 03:42:21 PM
@ ronnycopeh: Update your Firefox or update your sig... ;)
asyn
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: ronnycopeh on November 20, 2010, 04:02:03 PM
firefox always updated just hadn't changed it here! thanks but does it matter?
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Asyn on November 20, 2010, 04:07:10 PM
1. firefox always updated just hadn't changed it here!
2. thanks but does it matter?

1. I see..
2. Well, now we can be sure you don't use a vulnerable version..! ;)
asyn
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: ronnycopeh on November 20, 2010, 04:13:09 PM
okay, thanks
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Asyn on November 20, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
okay, thanks

No problem...
asyn
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: brhokla on November 20, 2010, 05:20:31 PM
For those of you saying don't use two AV programs! I wasn't planning on doing so, just wanted opinions on which program gave the best defense. I have decided to not use the Comodo AV for one simple reason.  I installed and used the Comodo System Cleaner two day's ago and since have experienced multiple Blue Screens of Death.  About one every hour.  Had to restore system to previous state and discontinue using the program. 
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Asyn on November 20, 2010, 05:35:34 PM
I installed and used the Comodo System Cleaner two day's ago and since have experienced multiple Blue Screens of Death.

That's useless stuff.
Use CCleaner instead...! ;)
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
asyn
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: brhokla on November 20, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
Yes, the program seems to have some problems. Had to restore everything it deleted to get the system back to working order.  Seems to be a problem with many of the smaller applications they have.  I'm intrigued by the Comodo Internet Security product with it's multiple layers of protection but if a much smaller product is not right and causes so many problems then what of their flagship product?
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: YoKenny on November 20, 2010, 11:22:00 PM
@ brhokla
I see that you now have more than 20 posts which will permit you to update your profile to include signature information.

Go to PROFILE then Modify Profile then Forum Profile Information then Signature: and put information about your system just like my signature about your system just like my signature so that the helpers can offer pertinent advice.

Stay clear of Comodo if you do not know what it does as Blue Screens of Death is its most recent feature.  ;) 
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: brhokla on November 21, 2010, 12:02:17 AM
Thanks, I know have a signature with my posts..
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Yance on November 23, 2010, 05:17:19 AM
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But so far everything is going well, even better. Do I have to uninstall the Comodo Antivirus and just intalling their firewall?

Yes, having 2 AVs might cause driver confliction between avast and comodo.
And you can uninstall Comodo AV by going to add or remove program->Comodo Internet Security->deselect AV component and you are done!
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Sammo on November 23, 2010, 05:33:10 AM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Yance on November 23, 2010, 05:36:12 AM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
Is OnlineArmor free?
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Sammo on November 23, 2010, 06:09:05 AM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
Is OnlineArmor free?
There are free and paid versions. The free version is perfect.
http://www.online-armor.com/products-online-armor-free.php
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: brhokla on November 23, 2010, 07:05:24 AM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
Is OnlineArmor free?
There are free and paid versions. The free version is perfect.
http://www.online-armor.com/products-online-armor-free.php
Went ahead and added the Online Armor Firewall to my layers of protection.  Pretty nice layout, features.  Simple to use and pretty much does everything for you.  Hopefully it provides protection as good as the Comodo firewall? Thanks for the info on it.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Sammo on November 23, 2010, 07:20:44 AM
Went ahead and added the Online Armor Firewall to my layers of protection.  Pretty nice layout, features.  Simple to use and pretty much does everything for you.  Hopefully it provides protection as good as the Comodo firewall? Thanks for the info on it.
I have run many tests on both Comodo and OnlineArmor and found that OA matches or beats Comodo on all the tests. OA also has a webshield (it doesn't conflict with avast but compliments it), a hidden process monitor, plus it will kill keyloggers that Comodo lets through. More details can be found at their forum - http://support.online-armor.com
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Yance on November 23, 2010, 11:12:11 AM
Went ahead and added the Online Armor Firewall to my layers of protection.  Pretty nice layout, features.  Simple to use and pretty much does everything for you.  Hopefully it provides protection as good as the Comodo firewall? Thanks for the info on it.
I have run many tests on both Comodo and OnlineArmor and found that OA matches or beats Comodo on all the tests. OA also has a webshield (it doesn't conflict with avast but compliments it), a hidden process monitor, plus it will kill keyloggers that Comodo lets through. More details can be found at their forum - http://support.online-armor.com
Is OA has a sandbox feature?
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Yance on November 23, 2010, 11:36:43 AM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
Is OnlineArmor free?
There are free and paid versions. The free version is perfect.
http://www.online-armor.com/products-online-armor-free.php
I have open their site. Free version of OA can't automatically update like comodo & avast.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Sammo on November 23, 2010, 04:39:30 PM
Is OA has a sandbox feature?
Yes. Its called "Run Safer" in OA.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Sammo on November 23, 2010, 04:44:20 PM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
Is OnlineArmor free?
There are free and paid versions. The free version is perfect.
http://www.online-armor.com/products-online-armor-free.php
I have open their site. Free version of OA can't automatically update like comodo & avast.
OA does not need to automatically update because there are no virus definitions like avast or Comodo. You can always get alerts from the forums when a newer version of OA is released a few times a year. Also, you can beta test it before releases are out.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Yance on November 24, 2010, 06:26:26 AM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
Is OnlineArmor free?
There are free and paid versions. The free version is perfect.
http://www.online-armor.com/products-online-armor-free.php
I have open their site. Free version of OA can't automatically update like comodo & avast.
OA does not need to automatically update because there are no virus definitions like avast or Comodo. You can always get alerts from the forums when a newer version of OA is released a few times a year. Also, you can beta test it before releases are out.
How if i use avast 5 free + comodo firewall + OA? :)
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: GloobyGoob on November 24, 2010, 06:28:00 AM
How if i use avast 5 free + comodo firewall + OA? :)

You can't use 2 firewalls; they will conflict.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Yance on November 24, 2010, 02:48:26 PM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
I have tested the OA and it make windows ics not function until i shutdown the OA or switch to learning mode.
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Sammo on November 24, 2010, 04:11:40 PM
which is better: avast free + comodo firewall or avast internet security?
I have better luck with avast free and OnlineArmor and this gives me better protection than avast with Comodo.
I have tested the OA and it make windows ics not function until i shutdown the OA or switch to learning mode.
You can find the answers by searching here:
http://support.online-armor.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: Tenko on November 25, 2010, 01:40:31 PM
Hey

I have had CIS (comodo internet security) Avast combo (comodo AV's realtime protection/scanner was off of course) and comodo has never used alot of cpu (cmdagent.exe) during the time I used this combo. Maybe i was just lucky

Zonealarm may be good but comodo is a better option; comodo has HIPS-technology which provides you with better information and you get cloud scanner as an extra.

I recommend all to check the download program(s)/application(s) before are getting installed on the machine, at least I do.

Regards,
              Tenko
Title: Re: Avast 5 vrs Comodo
Post by: brhokla on November 26, 2010, 01:51:38 AM
I have used the comodo Firewall before and loved everything about it except all the pop-ups. It was nagging and wanted an answer for everything.  I like that you can install Online Armor and if you know your system is clean set the program up when installing it to automatically add all the programs you have on your computer to the accept list. I love Online Armor so far.