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Title: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 28, 2010, 08:27:07 PM
Sound like a silly question but what would be quicker?
I have a dual I just grabbed but my main is a p4. The Pentium is not hyper threading.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: YoKenny on November 28, 2010, 10:26:54 PM
A Celeron is a low end CPU

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Intel® Celeron® processors provide a low-cost mobile computing solution for basic computing needs. Together with the Intel® 4 Series Express Chipsets and Intel® 965 Express Chipset, these Intel® Celeron Intel® Celeron® processors deliver exceptional value.
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/celeron/mobile/index.htm

See SecurAble
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Modern processors incorporate features beneficial to
security.  SecurAble displays the status of the three
most significant security-related processor features:
http://www.grc.com/securable.htm
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 28, 2010, 11:55:02 PM
Ok I understand it low end. Which is better though a single core pentium or Dual core celeron
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 28, 2010, 11:56:52 PM
Reason I'm asking is because I was unable to get a benchmark comparison of the two.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Pondus on November 29, 2010, 12:02:51 AM
a dual core can handle more work load. example if you virusprogram start sheduled scan when you work on something, you wont notice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-core_processor


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The largest boost in performance will likely be noticed in improved response-time while running CPU-intensive processes, like antivirus scans, ripping/burning media (requiring file conversion), or searching for folders. For example, if the automatic virus-scan runs while a movie is being watched, the application running the movie is far less likely to be starved of processor power, as the antivirus program will be assigned to a different processor core than the one running the movie playback.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 12:06:05 AM
Well in this cold weather an old Pentium 4 would be good for heating your house, they were notorious for running hot. I would just wonder if the Two are even pin compatible as the Celeron E1200 is a much newer processor and may be using a different CPU socket.

Edit: Pentium 4 socket 478 & Celeron E1200 socket 775, so they aren't compatible if you are thinking of upgrading a pentium 4 to the Celeron e1200
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Pondus on November 29, 2010, 12:10:10 AM
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Well in this cold weather an old Pentium 4 would be good for heating your house
;D  i need that now, i have -13C
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 12:16:53 AM
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Only -3c right now was -5c and my CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8300  @ 2.83GHz   24 °C, so not much heat coming from there.

I wish I was in Norway right now, I could get some decent MuckLucs or felt tent boots, my feet are frozen.
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Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Pondus on November 29, 2010, 12:23:15 AM
What the heck is " MuckLucs "  ???   
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
Winter boots, something I remember from my time in the Army on Arctic survival training in Norway. An Inuit word I believe (totally mis-spelt no doubt ;D
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: YoKenny on November 29, 2010, 12:34:26 AM
What the heck is " MuckLucs "  ??? 

Canadian Mukluks
http://www.authenticcanadianmukluks.com

They are not inexpensive but are nice and warm:
http://www.muklukstore.com/us/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=130&cat=24
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Pondus on November 29, 2010, 12:34:54 AM
is it the one in reply #4  http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53414

when you where jumping out of working airplanes ( why   ::) ) and crawling in snow, i was in the navy so did not need those boots   ;D
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 29, 2010, 12:51:33 AM
Weirdly enough yes the two are compaitable as they are both  Socket 775 LGA (Thanks to you guys for the amazing program- Speccy)
And either or I can just transfer the Processor over with the motherboard that came with it its an Asus P5VD2-VM SE
Thank you all for helping me try and figure out whether is better.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 01:04:27 AM
Weirdly enough yes the two are compaitable as they are both  Socket 775 LGA (Thanks to you guys for the amazing program- Speccy)
And either or I can just transfer the Processor over with the motherboard that came with it its an Asus P5VD2-VM SE
Thank you all for helping me try and figure out whether is better.

Must be a later pentium4 then, lucky.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 29, 2010, 01:06:16 AM
I was really shocked when I opened it up myself as I always seen pentium 4 as a male processor (with pins) but mine is flat with metal connectors.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 29, 2010, 01:23:50 AM
Ok let me elaborate a little more, I want to use it for gaming.
Games like Team fortress 2 and borderlands.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 01:56:25 AM
is it the one in reply #4  http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53414

when you where jumping out of working airplanes ( why   ::) ) and crawling in snow, i was in the navy so did not need those boots   ;D

No they look like oversize wellies (Wellington boots), but all white with lacing round them. They may well have been military only given that they are all white and not fashion items ;D
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 01:58:09 AM
I was really shocked when I opened it up myself as I always seen pentium 4 as a male processor (with pins) but mine is flat with metal connectors.

The newer processors have changed as pins tend to get bent if you are fitting them yourself and they are now more like studs that fit into recesses in the socket.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 29, 2010, 02:09:17 AM
Ok. Confused a little about the wellie boots, lmao.
I have two mobo's one Im running now and a new one the Dual core is in.
I ran a system requirements test but it failed (not sure if the program caught the dual core), just wondering if it would play the games at equilvenlent the speed or perhaps faster.
Both systems are up and running atm.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 03:09:15 AM
Well a celeron is never going to be up to most of the modern games, without turning down the frame rate and other graphical enhancements.

You don't say what it failed on, but it may not be able to run it at a high enough frame rate to make the game run at a reasonable level or quality. The other aspect is your graphics card and what version of directX it is capable of running, so it isn't all just your CPU, but a combination of things.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 29, 2010, 03:17:23 AM
It failed on CPU speed, possibly because the program I used failed to see it was a dual core.. not quite sure. It also failed on graphics because my card currently is not in the dual core pc.

Dual core is running XP SP-3 (Freshly installed on a 320gb WD Cavier Blue)
2 gigz of Ram. The card would be Ati Radeon HD 4350, Dx10.1, Pixel shader version 4.0 Vertex shader 4.0
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 29, 2010, 03:28:27 AM
Also I think they were on the right track with using a different way to connect the processor. I'm a beginner computer builder and I cannot recall how many processor's pins I've bent... I CAN recall how many computers I've built though. LMAO
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 04:13:28 AM
All I can say is that you have to match the game minimum requirements against what your system will be. Crucially if it requires directX 11 in which case it wouldn't work, as XP doesn't support directX 11.

If it requires directX 10 then its RAM, CPU and Graphics and your graphics card isn't up to modern games.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: Probzzie on November 29, 2010, 05:46:10 PM
Hey David thanks for your help and suggestions, also thank you for your patience. I think I might just use the dual core as a secondary pc and keep my P4 as it plays these games flawlessly (on low settings) Low is good enough for me, I'm not a graphics man,  more of a story line and playability.

Again thank you this suggestion was easy but never thought it through.
Title: Re: Celeron E1200- 1.6 GHZ Dual Core Processor or Pentium 4. 3.00 Ghz?
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2010, 05:48:18 PM
You're welcome.