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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Vlk on December 06, 2010, 11:29:53 PM
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Hi *,
we'll soon be releasing a new build of avast - version 5.1. This includes the three "consumer" editions of avast - i.e. avast! Free Antivirus, avast! Pro Antivirus and avast! Internet Security. The business products (avast! Business Protection and avast! Business Protection Plus) unfortunately aren't ready for the prime time yet and will be released later.
As usual, we're making the new version available for public testing before it's officially released.
Version 5.1.803 still misses a few things that will be in the next couple of days. For example, some of the Behavior Shield changes aren't there in this build yet (but there's a progress compared to the previous builds 5.1.798/803).
How to get it
Free AV: http://files.avast.com/files/beta/5.1.807/setup_av_free.exe
Pro AV: http://files.avast.com/files/beta/5.1.807/setup_av_pro.exe
IS: http://files.avast.com/files/beta/5.1.807/setup_ais.exe
How to install it
Just run the setup executable (links above). You can either install it from scratch, or on top of an existing avast installation (installing over both 5.0.xxx or 4.8.yyy should be fine). A reboot will be required to complete the installation.
If you're already running a previous v5.1 beta, you can go to this build by simply invoking the Program Update feature from within the avast! UI.
What's new
Most notable improvements include:
- Boot-time scanner for 64-bit OSes (finally!)
- Behavior Shield improvements - now with more sensors and able to detect exact offenders*
- Improved cleaning of infected computers
- Improved anti-rootkit engine - now capable of dealing with the latest TDL variants, for example
- Web Shield improvements (both stability and performance related)
- Mail and Web Shields not hosted in separate NT services anymore, resulting in much faster starts
- IS: new version of antispam engine
- Sound packs (more info coming later)
*The Behavior Shield functionality is still incomplete in this build. And even in the final v5.1, it will work only in "passive mode", which means that the new sensors will be active but won't be stopping the attacks, just reporting them to our backend infrastructure (unless you have opted out from the avast! community membership). This is to allow us to collect enough data before enabling the real thing in Q1 2011.
Changes in the latest build build 5.1.807
please see here: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=67373
Thanks much
Vlk
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hey finally ;) thanks... will install in a minute.
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Wow i will give it a try great
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I might add that - as usual with the betas - some of the language modules were not updated yet and the new items are still in English there; no need to report, this is normal.
I can also say that the boot-time scanner has been noticeably accelerated recently (at least for some OSes/machines). OK, technically this is not directly connected with avast! 5.1, but I thought that you might like to know anyway. ;)
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What's new
Most notable improvements include:
- Boot-time scanner for 64-bit OSes (finally!)
- Behavior Shield improvements - now with more sensors and able to detect exact offenders*
- Improved cleaning of infected computers
- Improved anti-rootkit engine - now capable of dealing with the latest TDL variants, for example
- Web Shield improvements (both stability and performance related)
- Mail and Web Shields not hosted in separate NT services anymore, resulting in much faster starts
- IS: new version of antispam engine
- Sound packs (more info coming later)
*The Behavior Shield functionality is still incomplete in this build. And even in the final v5.1, it will work only in "passive mode", which means that the new sensors will be active but won't be stopping the attacks, just reporting them to our backend infrastructure (unless you have opted out from the avast! community membership). This is to allow us to collect enough data before enabling the real thing in Q1 2011.
Thanks much
Vlk
And Behavior Shield for x64? ;)
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I'm glad that I now have fast broadband at 54.31MB download, completed whilst typing this up ;D
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Thanks, before I do anything else, I need a little help, I update using the link Is and things went great and rebooted, once up and running in the new version it asked me to restart again and then, back to the original version 5.0.677. what went wrong? any respond is welcome, thanks again
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same here installed this one rebooted it did another update then rebooted again now im back to 5.0.677???
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I will wait till Avast 5.1 is out of Beta ;D i just know that this version of avast is going to be awesome. as always :D
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Oops, sorry for that, I again forgot about one server-side config change, please wait for a few moments...
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Thanks, before I do anything else, I need a little help, I update using the link Is and things went great and rebooted, once up and running in the new version it asked me to restart again and then, back to the original version 5.0.677. what went wrong? any respond is welcome, thanks again
Strange no problem here.
There were two options when the installation started/ended, Update and Uninstall you didn't happen to choose Uninstall, in which case it might have dropped back to 677. For me the install went fine I clicked Update and allowed the reboot and I'm running on 5.1.798 on the restart.
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Downloading, thanks avast team! 8)
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Alrighty then....and we're off ;D
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I did do the update
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Just wait a few more minutes guys, as the original setup had incorrect servers.def in it that will basically get you back to 5.0.677 on next update...
This will be fixed in like 10 minutes.
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okay I did it ;D I was expecting it tbh but still clicked on "update program" to see what it does, and it got indeed downgraded to 5.0.677 ;D + an "license expired message", then a pop up asking me to renew, clicked on "I already have...", license got re-activated 8)...just like that :) will have to upgrade again... but I'll do that from scratch.
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will we need to reinstall again or will it be fixed on your end?? thanks
also i uninstalled 5.0 then installed 5.1 at the end of the install it had a grey box come up searching. what was that for??
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Hurry up ;D
Greetz, Red.
P.S. Hey Logos, long time no see :)
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Hi
The Network Shield does not work in this Beta? Everything else seems to be ok, except the NS module doesn't work. Windows 7 x64. Tried re-starting it, doesn't work. Is this expected?
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It should be fixed now.
But you will have to download the beta setup package again (note that the URLs have changed little bit).
Sorry for that.
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That's allright vlk!
I will download the setup again :)
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also i uninstalled 5.0 then installed 5.1 at the end of the install it had a grey box come up searching. what was that for??
You mean the "Retrieving information" box? This will be a new Welcome screen (shown immediately after installation), most likely going live tomorrow (at least the English version). It's not there yet so that's why you didn't see anything but the progress bar...
The Network Shield does not work in this Beta? Everything else seems to be ok, except the NS module doesn't work. Windows 7 x64. Tried re-starting it, doesn't work. Is this expected?
The Network Shield should work normally. Strange.
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It should be fixed now.
But you will have to download the beta setup package again (note that the URLs have changed little bit).
Sorry for that.
Any idea why mine worked then if the server was incorrectly serving up 5.0.677 ?
Not that I'm complaining about my installation working (install over 5.0.677) ;D
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Any idea why mine worked then if the server was incorrectly serving up 5.0.677 ?
Not that I'm complaining about my installation working (install over 5.0.677) ;D
It probably didn't quite work. I bet the next time you invoke program update you will get back to v5.0.677.
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thanks, all is good!
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The Network Shield does not work in this Beta? Everything else seems to be ok, except the NS module doesn't work. Windows 7 x64. Tried re-starting it, doesn't work. Is this expected?
The Network Shield should work normally. Strange.
Had to do a reboot for it to initialize. Strange, as everything else was working, and never had to do that before. Seems to be Ok now, thanks.
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Yes, invoking a manual program update drops back to 5.0.677, downloaded again and will install after a reboot to drop back to 677.
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Hi,
Is there any plan to support Windows 7's Mobile Broadband Connection in avast! Firewall?
My thread for this problem---->>>> http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=66940.0
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Installed with no problems. Had to reinstall Adobe Flash Player to see statistics, but now OK. Did an update and it stayed at version .798, so I have the right one. Installed AIS but running in Pro mode currently.
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Thnx Avast! Team :)
Downloaded and upgraded, but I have to get a few hours of sleep now. I will look at the BETA tomorrow and let you know :)
Greetz, Red.
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okay all works fine now, concerning the wrong program update prompt, doesn't happen anymore after installing the new package. But I got another problem, all shields are off after each reboot. They get re-activated in a click but still, there's a problem. Also, I'm getting the message again that my AIS license has expired, and that's probably causing the shields de-activation...lol, re-activating the shields reactivate my licence too. Okay no big deal.
That said I just gave a shot to my first boot scan on W7/64 and it worked fine. For obvious reasons it cannot scan EFS files but that doesn't matter, I'm glad to have the boot scan again, last time was with 4.8 on Vista32.
edit: Hi Red ;)
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i installed my lic and i still have the buy now green box at the top but it shows my normal subscription anyone else see this?
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Downloaded and Installed it. Everything is running smoothly here
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OK I have seen my first Behaviour Shield event blocked, this belongs to Outpost Firewall Pro "ACS stands for Agnitum Client Security Service, part of Outpost Firewall Pro" which is required.
This is strange since Vlk said it was in Passive mode (so why would it record a blocking action ?):
*The Behavior Shield functionality is still incomplete in this build. And even in the final v5.1, it will work only in "passive mode", which means that the new sensors will be active but won't be stopping the attacks, just reporting them to our backend infrastructure (unless you have opted out from the avast! community membership). This is to allow us to collect enough data before enabling the real thing in Q1 2011.
Does this mean that although the Behaviour Shield says it has blocked this, that it actually hasn't (see image as it is running) ?
Edit: There is still no data relating to detections being entered into the BehaviourShield.txt file. This was something we were screaming in 5.0.677, but nothing seems to have been done about this as there were 12 & 9 so called infected items, image 3
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nice option, the timing of Avast popups is now tweakable ;) ...also,I'm noticing that the quickscan (so a pre-set scan) sensitivity and packers settings are not grayed out anymore. IIRC this was already doable through Avast.ini but I preferred to leave it to default, well it's supposed to be a pre-set scan, but okay, may be that's just for the beta phase.
Oh yes, no change at all with the firewall... I was expecting at least the ability to abort connections, may be in 6.0...
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okay hmmm. if i do a fresh install and DELETE the 2 leftover folders from the uninstaller it works fine with no buy now green box???
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I hope i don't cause problem to anybody for asking but. Does the Interface of Avast 5.1 look different?
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no it really does not
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Many thanks Vlk
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- The Antispam will not scan emails unless: "avast! 5" in Exchange Client Extentions is unchecked, with avast! Antispam checked in DCOM Add-ins. (This is in Outlook 2007)
- The Firewall Packet Rules GUI bug is fixed, however, new rules that are added cannot be saved.
- I'm also experiencing the problem with some of the shields turned off at startup. (Mail + Web)
So far that's what I've found.. from a clean install (from scratch). Will continue to test.
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hmm guys... I'm getting again and again the issue with all shields deactivated and a license expired message after each reboot, always fixed manually as I described above but it happens again.
I installed from scratch, so an upgrade problem can't be the issue.
edit: the behavior shield doesn't seem to do more than it use to (on W7/64), not that it's just passive as Vlk described, but it still doesn't scan anything, probably still no rule sets like before.
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Installed and rebooted over 5.0.677 Free. Seems working properly.
OK I have seen my first Behaviour Shield event blocked, this belongs to Outpost Firewall Pro "ACS stands for Agnitum Client Security Service, part of Outpost Firewall Pro" which is required.
This is strange since Vlk said it was in Passive mode (so why would it record a blocking action ?):
*The Behavior Shield functionality is still incomplete in this build. And even in the final v5.1, it will work only in "passive mode", which means that the new sensors will be active but won't be stopping the attacks, just reporting them to our backend infrastructure (unless you have opted out from the avast! community membership). This is to allow us to collect enough data before enabling the real thing in Q1 2011.
Does this mean that although the Behaviour Shield says it has blocked this, that it actually hasn't (see image as it is running) ?
Edit: There is still no data relating to detections being entered into the BehaviourShield.txt file. This was something we were screaming in 5.0.677, but nothing seems to have been done about this as there were 12 & 9 so called infected items, image 3
Same here, but we can see some kind of details if you set BS options to "Ask".
I already see 5 "Asking" dialogs, 3 are about Mozy, 1 is services.exe and 1 is CIS.
Anyway, is it strange that there is too many (75) "blocked" actions, though "Analyzed" events are only 16... still increasing...
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1. The firewall popup is not dismissing in some cases. Need to be closed/killed. It's frozen.
2. I didn't install a custumized sound package. There is only the possibility of exclusion ???
3. The Behav blocked Mozy :'(
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nice on demand scan popup ;)
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After three attempts to install finally got it. I guess I didn't get the correct install package the first two times. First time it reverted back to .677 after restart. Second time file shield and network shield did not work. Third time is a charm. I noticed that when you right click the avast ball that the menu disappears as it should now.
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nice on demand scan popup ;)
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Great! 8)
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confirming the "ask mode" issue with the firewall >>> alert popups are freezing, i.e. you can't allow or deny, just close the popup and switch back to auto-decide to start the program. No issue in auto-decide mode.
edit: unrelated, the only problem with the manual scan popup, if you didn't make it sticky and if there was another alert (of any kind) in the meantime, you can't get it back (the scan popup), and there's still nothing saying in systray that a scan is running...
edit: Win7 taskbar button from Avast when minimized shows progress of manual scan, nice 8)
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confirming the "ask mode" issue with the firewall >>> alert popups are freezing, i.e. you can't allow or deny, just close the popup and switch back to auto-decide to start the program. No issue in auto-decide mode.
edit: unrelated, the only problem with the manual scan popup, if you didn't make it sticky and if there was another alert (of any kind) in the meantime, you can't get it back (the scan popup), and there's still nothing saying in systray that a scan is running...
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Also, for some reason I received a license expired message. Had to re-insert my license.
I'm not sure if there has been much behavior shield modification for 64 bit. Seems the same. Still don't see any activity.
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Well, I know it's early but Pro and AIS look fine.
I'll wait for the final release for the other computers. :)
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Working fine on my systems. 8)
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Same here, but we can see some kind of details if you set BS options to "Ask".
I already see 5 "Asking" dialogs, 3 are about Mozy, 1 is services.exe and 1 is CIS.
Anyway, is it strange that there is too many (75) "blocked" actions, though "Analyzed" events are only 16... still increasing...
Well mine is presumably set to the default Allow, as I haven't changed it. So I will set it to Ask and see how noisy it is. I think the problem with many of these they are at boot time or very shortly after so the Ask interface is going to be a bit of a pain in the a**.
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After installing the beta AIS : the Win 7 Firewall is in a disabled mode (win 7 FW = off ).
This is opposed to the case when Ver 5.0.x was installed (Avast team recommended to leave the win 7 FW on).
Is that a bug in the installer ?
VLK please comment.
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Also, when using the Firewall's GeoIP, I get the message attached below. This happens with all three network zones.
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Computer frozen completely with both Behav Shield on "ask" and on "allow".
I just need to boot in Safe Mode to change anything. Nightmare (literally...).
I'm trying to restore the 5.0 version right now and uploading a manual dump.
I would like a feedback.
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After installing the beta: the Win 7 Firewall is in a disabled mode (win 7 FW = off ).
Confirmed.
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I think the disabling of the W7 Firewall is intentional. There really is no need for it.
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@GloobyGoob : did you read my whole post about it ?
If yes , we don't need your opinion about it - we need Avast team to comment if that is a new approach .
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I had to re-install this version from Scratch since Avast didn´t work after installing at the top of 5.0.677... my computer got frozen
Now it seems to be working just fine...rm
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Computer frozen completely with both Behav Shield on "ask" and on "allow".
I just need to boot in Safe Mode to change anything. Nightmare (literally...).
I'm trying to restore the 5.0 version right now and uploading a manual dump.
I would like a feedback.
I though the Ask would be very noisy on boot as that is when most of what it does is checked, so it looks like that assumption was right, but even worse freezing the system. I have switched it back to allow, I hadn't rebooted since I set it to Ask, so hopefully it won't have the same problem.
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Computer frozen completely with both Behav Shield on "ask" and on "allow".
I just need to boot in Safe Mode to change anything. Nightmare (literally...).
Same Here....
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Computer frozen completely with both Behav Shield on "ask" and on "allow".
I just need to boot in Safe Mode to change anything. Nightmare (literally...).
Same Here....
The computer doesn't freeze for me when I reboot. ??? (The Behavior Shield is on allow)
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Tried turning network lock on. Could not disable it. Rebooted and it disappeared. Tried to repair Avast and received error. Had to reinstall AIS.
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same thing happening here firewall popup freezing
win.7 64/ais
confirming the "ask mode" issue with the firewall >>> alert popups are freezing, i.e. you can't allow or deny, just close the popup and switch back to auto-decide to start the program. No issue in auto-decide mode.
edit: unrelated, the only problem with the manual scan popup, if you didn't make it sticky and if there was another alert (of any kind) in the meantime, you can't get it back (the scan popup), and there's still nothing saying in systray that a scan is running...
edit: Win7 taskbar button from Avast when minimized shows progress of manual scan, nice 8)
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All is Okay after some messing around with my Firewalls ...shutting down Avast Service then everything stopped only to restart in a few moments and now all is working great ;D
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I also noticed that first letter of whatever connection analysed is corrupted in Network Shield! (See attached sccrenshot)
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Hi
The Network Shield does not work in this Beta? Everything else seems to be ok, except the NS module doesn't work. Windows 7 x64. Tried re-starting it, doesn't work. Is this expected?
Same thing here, Network Shield is on, but is analysing nothing....
Also, my machine runs Win 7 64 bit
Update: Sorry, I just found that only Web Shield is scanning web traffic, File System Shield and Behavior Shield are on, but are also scanning nothing....
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I was unable to manually enter settings into the Mail Shield SSL Accounts. Avast won't save these settings. I was thinking that I was able to manually do this in AIS 5.0. After syncing the account Avast automatically populated the fields. Also, I don't know if this is important to you or not but the "automatic detect and warn about unprotected SSL connections" pop up gets buried behind all other windows. I didn't even notice it was there until I closed two windows. Might want to bring it to the front.
Also noticed that windows defender and windows firewall were turned off with the installation. With other installations I had to manually turn these off. I don't know how many people are going to like this change but I do.
Been waiting for the 64 bit boot time scan. Thanks.
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got it and thanks
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I also noticed that first letter of whatever connection analysed is corrupted in Network Shield! (See attached sccrenshot)
Is the same for me with only the Network shield also.
I was unable to manually enter settings into the Mail Shield SSL Accounts. Avast won't save these settings. I was thinking that I was able to manually do this in AIS 5.0. After syncing the account Avast automatically populated the fields.
Same for me as well. Can't enter any host names, etc and save them. And doesn't seem like the Mail Sheild is doing anything. Opened Outlook 2010, updated Send/Receive, got new emails and opened them, sent one out, etc. Hotmail and live accounts. The Email Sheild shows no activity for even scanning anything. All setting are on default - Scan outgoing, incoming.
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okay one thing that is aggravating i have had to reinstall my lic 4 times now. each time i do it says its good till 2013 but then after a while i get the pop up saying its expired. i bought three year lic's (12 pc's all together) so no way they are expired.... why is this happening
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Avast 5.1.798 is working well here, only a few issues mentioned by others, but overall good.
I made an installation from scratch...
I'm using the Spanish version, some texts aren't translated yet (I hope this will be fixed soon)
The Network Shield and Webshield weren't active after install (this solved after the first reboot, so no problem)
If i found some problem i'll report it.
Regards.
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Secunia reports Avast beta as being version 5.0.676.0 and tries to update it. While using the beta version of Avast, users may want to add Avast to Secunia's ignore list so Secunia does not try to download a program update. Especially if you are on dial up.
I had shut down my computer and returned to restart it. Received a message that windows did not shut down correctly. After restart received a Blue Screen error and spam filter failed to start. I have the minidump and the sysdata xml if you want me to upload it. I really think it was a one time deal as I may have helped cause it by running Secunia.
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Just installed the beta and start up sure is a lot faster now. Thanks Avast
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Just installed and i got an error while changing the configuration notice and ccleaner take's age's to open and when it does it pause's at 50% for about ten second's.
Two try's at repairing and a couple of reboot's has not solved the issue, repair come back with the (error while changing the configuration)
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Good news in the morning... Thanks..!! :D
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Just installed and i got an error while changing the configuration notice and ccleaner take's age's to open and when it does it pause's at 50% for about ten second's.
Two try's at repairing and a couple of reboot's has not solved the issue, repair come back with the (error while changing the configuration)
Did a clean install and that seemed to work, it took two attempt's at registering and the icon in taskbar kept disappearing but after the third reboot everything seems to have settled down, finger's crossed :)
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Have not ran into any problems yet [ using ais ]
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In the statistic's im not seeing any information on the webshield scan's but it is working under realtime shield's.
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In the statistic's im not seeing any information on the webshield scan's but it is working under realtime shield's.
My webshield's statistic section is working fine...
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In the statistic's im not seeing any information on the webshield scan's but it is working under realtime shield's.
Alright, now a further repair though add remove program's has solved the webshield statistic's problem but im back to to getting a configuration error when running the repair.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. We will sorting through it and possibly release a beta refresh tonight or tomorrow. Some of the things that you mentioned are reproducible on our systems, so they will be easily fixed.
Again, thanks much.
Vlk
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Thanks for the info Vlk!
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downloading :'( 3.0kbps and its stock in 47mb and stop downloading :'( i cannot complete download 54.3mb :'(
maybe this beta is not for me to test, but i will try again 8)
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we don't need your opinion about it
We always need the others' opinions here. An open forum, a free forum.
You can ask for official answers. But you can't forbid other users to participate and comment.
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we don't need your opinion about it
We always need the others' opinions here. An open forum, a free forum.
You can ask for official answers. But you can't forbid other users to participate and comment.
hey tech please tell me that is there need beta license for beta testing or i can insert existing license?
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Just installed the beta and start up sure is a lot faster now. Thanks Avast
Yeah. Very fast boot.
But, anyway, there is a memory leak that avoids me to use the beta :'(
And thinking that Vlk said we won't "need" to open the beta forum...
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hey tech please tell me that is there need beta license for beta testing or i can insert existing license?
You can use your existing one.
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Memory leak?
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I also noticed that first letter of whatever connection analysed is corrupted in Network Shield! (See attached sccrenshot)
yeah I've seen the same (+- characters) appear during a full manual scan, no idea what that is ???
After installing the beta: the Win 7 Firewall is in a disabled mode (win 7 FW = off ).
Confirmed.
not here. And on a side note, I got no memory leak so far.
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memory leak means?
Memory leak http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak
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I also noticed that first letter of whatever connection analysed is corrupted in Network Shield! (See attached sccrenshot)
yeah I've seen the same (+- characters) appear during a full manual scan, no idea what that is ???
What full manual scan? I can see the problem in the network shield handler, but it's NS specific...
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I also noticed that first letter of whatever connection analysed is corrupted in Network Shield! (See attached sccrenshot)
yeah I've seen the same (+- characters) appear during a full manual scan, no idea what that is ???
What full manual scan? I can see the problem in the network shield handler, but it's NS specific...
while I was running a full manual scan yesterday after a fresh install of 5.1, I saw these "+-" characters appear in the middle of a line while a folder was scanned.
edit: forget it, was probably unrelated to the related issue above, some scanned files here might actually contain the +- characters.
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Installed this latest beta 5.1.798 over the top of 5.0.677 and rebooted. Seems ok so far but i notice there is no avast scan context menu when using directory opus. So i can't right mouse button and avast scan folders of files in directory opus. It works ok though in the normal windows 7 file explorer etc.
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Memory leak?
Computer freezing...
I'm trying to upload the memory dump (manual), but the ftp server dropped it 5 times... It's big (800Mb zip file).
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Well, computer freezing is computer freezing, not necessarily a memory leak ;)
I can see only one upload going on (though it isn't going very fast) - no previous unfinished files; did you overwrite the previous one? I though there are no rights for that...
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Installed this latest beta 5.1.798 over the top of 5.0.677 and rebooted. Seems ok so far but i notice there is no avast scan context menu when using directory opus. So i can't right mouse button and avast scan folders of files in directory opus. It works ok though in the normal windows 7 file explorer etc.
And it was there in 5.0.677, i.e. has it disappeared in the new version?
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Well, computer freezing is computer freezing, not necessarily a memory leak ;)
I can see only one upload going on (though it isn't going very fast) - no previous unfinished files; did you overwrite the previous one? I though there are no rights for that...
Tech's.Frozen.Computer.7z
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Installed this latest beta 5.1.798 over the top of 5.0.677 and rebooted. Seems ok so far but i notice there is no avast scan context menu when using directory opus. So i can't right mouse button and avast scan folders of files in directory opus. It works ok though in the normal windows 7 file explorer etc.
And it was there in 5.0.677, i.e. has it disappeared in the new version?
Yes it was there in the previous version. And now gone in this beta version. Thanks
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So to activate this 5.1 beta, we can just use our full version license file?
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okay this is still happening >>> BSOD when uninstalling Opera11 >>> "System_Service_Exception"
1 this only happens when Avast is installed (well Opera doesn't load any driver so that must be something else conflicting, and the answer is Avast, as there's no problem uninstalling Opera11 when Avast is not there).
2 this happened already here on a previous install of Windows (W7/64) with Avast 5.0.677 and Opera 11 alpha), so, as I've had (for unrelated reasons here) to re-install Windows in the meantime, my setup is not the cause.
3 I could reproduce just now with Avast 5.1.798 and Opera11 beta ( http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2010/12/06/extension-improvements-updates-to-core-and-some-other-nice-fixes ), any attempt to uninstall Opera leads to a blue screen, did it twice a few minutes ago.
4 when it first happened, as said with Avast 5.0.677 and Opera 11alpha, I already emailed Vlk about it, uploaded a memory dump to Avast ftp and gave Vlk the password, so I guess there's no need to go through that again, concerning this issue, Avast has my data already. Please fix that ;)
edit: just adding if needed that of course Opera 11 can be properly uninstalled in safe mode (i.e. when Avast isn't loaded) or in normal mode, when Avast is not installed at all.
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So, will Behavior Shield work under 64bit systems in avast! 5.1 version? AVG Identity Protection works even on 64bit systems, ThreatFire works, just not avast! Behavior Shield...
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Betanews have been mislead : Pro (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/avast-Professional-Antivirus/1034566665/) Free (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/avast-Free-Antivirus/1034566665/)
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All is Okay after some messing around with my Firewalls ...shutting down Avast Service then everything stopped only to restart in a few moments and now all is working great ;D
Just an update...After a couple of reboots it turns out 5.1 hangs my one XP2003 Os with OA Premium FW not reacting well the new kid on the block ...while my XP 2002 with OP PRo FW doesn't seem to mind the new version at all.
So after a clean uninstall and a clean install of the 5.1 install pkg. the install process didn't want to get by the "qick systen scan" at the end of the install....scanned for 2.5hrs ??? not so quick...and hung with no apparent activity. Did a clean uninstall of 5.1 and reinstall 5.677 and Vwalla...running smooth again. Will try again later..Also, the install time and process was quite abit longer with 5.1.then with 5.677>>> Why would that be??? :-\
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So to activate this 5.1 beta, we can just use our full version license file?
Already answered. Yes.
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Well, computer freezing is computer freezing, not necessarily a memory leak ;)
I can see only one upload going on (though it isn't going very fast) - no previous unfinished files; did you overwrite the previous one? I though there are no rights for that...
Tech's.Frozen.Computer.7z
I give up... My Internet connection is not that good to upload 800Mb... I've tried 6 times.
Do you really need the dump file or the freeze is already reproducible in your computers?
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Also, the install time and process was quite abit longer with 5.1
Same here. Much more longer.
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Also, the install time and process was quite abit longer with 5.1
Same here. Much more longer.
Do you know why>> and did you get a "Avast will now perform a 'Quick Scan' of your sytem" step near the end of the install ....thats a change from previous install process
Thanks Tech ;)
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unrelated here, but the BSOD caused by Avast when uninstalling Opera 11 as mentioned in my above post caused all profiles from opened programs as it happened to break completely, and that includes Firefox (all custom settings lost, including LP credentials, and I'm sure I would have lost all my passwords if I had used FF integrated pw manager), Thunderbird (accounts deleted), and Skype, all reset to default with messages as if they were running for the first time. I could restore the good versions thanks ;D I know, it's not Avast that did that, it's the BSOD ;)
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Received another blue screen error. Continuation from last night. Virus defs won't update (package is broken). Tried a repair which ended in an error. Have saved the minidump. Going to fully reinstall. See attached.
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schmidthouse, scanning and installation times aren't related imho.
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Behaviour Shield Again:
1. Still getting 13 of 15 blocked, yet no entries in the behaviour shield text file, there is little point in having this file if the only thing recorded is start and stop data. It is absolutely no good the BS User Interface showing blocked items if there is zero way of finding out what is blocked.
People have been complaining about this in the forums for some time now in 5.0, rather than provide comfort and additional security it makes people worry about what it is the the behaviour shield has found and why. Yet, zero/zilch/nada/nothing/sod all information in the BS report file. This is why so many people have switched off the BS, which is bad news when it really could be a great addition, but right now it is causing more grief that potential good.
2. The Trusted Processes section of the BS Expert Settings doesn't appear to work. Yesterday the only notification on the blocked items is the Last blocked field and because this is for Outpost firewall pro. I added this to the trusted processes, yet here it is again listed as blocked (we know as I have Allow and the BS is currently passive), so the trusted process doesn't work or doesn't function correctly.
See image, note the different path annotation, the BS info is in the old style 8.3 format, yet when you use the Browse function to navigate to trusted process, the entry path is in the full non-shortened 8.3 format, so essentiall they are the same locations but different path formats.
Is it this which is failing or that the trusted process function simply doesn't work ?
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Have saved the minidump.
Can you upload or post the minidump?
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I will upload the one from last night and the most recent one. Can you tell me where?
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Igor, any news about the freezing? Need help to troubleshoot?
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Also, the install time and process was quite abit longer with 5.1
Same here. Much more longer.
Yes much longer, so much so I thought there might be something wrong.
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I'm not aware of any freezing here, but that question is more for Vlk.
The minidump can be uploaded to ftp://ftp.avast.com/incoming (ftp://ftp.avast.com/incoming)
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I will upload the one from last night and the most recent one. Can you tell me where?
ftp://ftp.avast.com/incoming
(remove the http, it's mistakenly added by the forum software)
edit: oups okay didn't see Igor already posted it...
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I'm not aware of any freezing here
Oh no... We are two - at least - and you can't reproduce it?
I won't be able (today) to install it again and froze my computer... restoring the 5.0 version again...
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schmidthouse, scanning and installation times aren't related imho.
Okay...but thats strange because it was during the installation...I mean there was no indication that setup was finished doing it's thing :-\
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I'm not aware of any freezing here
Oh no... We are two - at least - and you can't reproduce it?
I won't be able (today) to install it again and froze my computer... restoring the 5.0 version again...
Sorry Tech..also when did your computer freeze up? During installation process or after reboot? :)
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Updated last night. Boot and even the GUI was much more responsive. Memory usage was unbelievably low as usual. Working great. Hopefully I won't run into issues but if I do, well that's the point to beta :D
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So far so good, system is even booting faster :)
Just one thing I noticed :
Last night the BB analyzed CCleaner and was "blocked" ( in fact it was "allowed" because that is the default option ), but now the BB doesn't analyze CCleaner anymore.
Edit : It seems that I was wrong. With BB on "Ask" it's analyzing CCleaner and asking me what to do( I choose "Allow" for now ).
Edit 2 : And now, after re-booting, it doesn't analize CCleaner anymore :-\
Greetz, Red.
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Tech, is this issue (memory leak / high CPU usage) same as yours?
Just noticed... thanks to dual-core CPU I didn't even notice this.
Maybe the cause is Behav Shield, maaaaaany blocked items.... :'(
Updated: Memory / CPU usage just dropped dramatically and returned to normal... ???
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yeah definitely no memory leak here (RAM is as usual), no freezing either, boot times are okay and on a side note the setup from scratch was as fast as it use to on 5.0. remains the BSOD when uninstalling Opera; the guys at Opera obviously don't even want to hear about it (well there's not much they could do) as that's an Avast driver issue.
ps: Avastsvc using 7500 kb here, couldn't be lower.
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Updated last night. Boot and even the GUI was much more responsive. Memory usage was unbelievably low as usual. Working great. Hopefully I won't run into issues but if I do, well that's the point to beta :D
I really haven't noticed much of a difference in RAM usage, image1.
So far so good, system is even booting faster :)
Just one thing I noticed :
Last night the BB analyzed CCleaner and was "blocked" ( in fact it was "allowed" because that is the default option ), but now the BB doesn't analyze CCleaner anymore.
Same as above, no noticeable difference, I don't sit with a stopwatch to see if there are any differences, but no noticeable difference in XP Pro SP3.
Still zero recording of any blocked items in the behaviour shield report file, a real pain after the number of complaints about this in 5.0. The new BS Expert Settings, Trusted Processes also doesn't work.
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spent years on the market and so far can not get a stable product :o >:( ;)
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spent years on the market and so far can not get a stable product :o >:( ;)
what's that for ??? >>> you're in a beta testing thread here.
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spent years on the market and so far can not get a stable product :o >:( ;)
Sure there's a stable product..!! ;)
http://www.avast.com/security-software-home-office
asyn
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spent years on the market and so far can not get a stable product :o >:( ;)
This is the Joke of the day ...
Its a beta version ;D
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I upgraded to the Beta (free version) and checked the one thing that has been giving me fits with prior versions - The outlook plug-in crashes Outlook 2007 whenever outlook is invoked (started) from an external program (like explorer). If outlook is already running when invoked, there is no problem because the plug-in is already loaded. But if outlook must start, the process of trying to load the plug-in causes it to crash.
Try it if you run outlook 2007. In explorer and with outlook NOT running, browse your hard drive and find a file - any file - and right click, select "send to", then "email recipient". Outlook will try to start and create the email message with attachment, but will instead pop an error window indicating Outlook has stopped working.
Disable the Avast plug-in in outlook... it works fine.
Run Outlook before trying to do the "send to", and it works fine.
Note: The first time I tried this after installing 5.1.798 (and rebooting), it worked. But subsequent times it failed. Not sure if it always works OK the first time after a reboot... I'll check.
I'm not sure if this is an outlook issue or an avast issue, but it sure would be nice to get resolved. Its been out there for a year or more.
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spent years on the market and so far can not get a stable product :o >:( ;)
This is the Joke of the day ...
Its a beta version ;D
Absolutely, some people only open their mouth to change feet.
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spent years on the market and so far can not get a stable product :o >:( ;)
This is the Joke of the day ...
Its a beta version ;D
HE/SHE A TEST DRIVER??? MAYBE NOT :D HE/SHE DON'T KNOW THAT BETA IS FOR TESTING???
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Please, use reopened BETA board. Closing this thread.