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Title: virus chest?
Post by: i_dont_no on December 09, 2010, 04:31:47 PM
I'm not very computer tec but i was looking a my virus chest and the last thing that was scanned was on the 6/9/2009 and it was C:\user\user1\appdata\local\microsoft\windows\temp ""etc and it was a virus called JS:Redirecttor-E [Trj] and theres nothing else in the chest after that date, should i be worried? also when i do a quick scan it say a scanning error in C:\ is that related?
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: swarnava on December 09, 2010, 05:17:45 PM
i know that! but my main concern is that theres nothing Else in the chest since like a year ago?

does any notification are coming? could you post the exact notfication?
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: i_dont_no on December 09, 2010, 05:55:23 PM
what do u mean by does any notification are coming? every time i do a Scan it say it scanned complet but the results say "error the system cannot find the path specified (3) " in c:/users/allusers
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: schmidthouse on December 09, 2010, 11:19:47 PM
Hi i-don't-no:
Just a couple of questions. What product and version are you using? Some Operating System info would be helpful(XP,Vista etc.)
 I don't know if I would be as concerned about nothing being in your chest as I would be that you can't scan! Can you do a Full Sytem scan? Or Do a Scan in Safe Mode? If you can then try doing a Boot Time Scan under the Scan options. Also has Avast found anything from previous scans and if so was it put in the Chest or Deleted...if deleted it obviously won't be in the virus chest.
This information could help in resolving the issue
Thanks :)
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 11, 2010, 08:55:06 PM
i know that! but my main concern is that theres nothing Else in the chest since like a year ago?
Could you give more info. Have you found a virus since then and what was deleted? If you do a scan on a regular basis, what kind of results have you received? If you scan at least once a day and nothing pops up I would think everything is fine. More...what happens if you run a "quick" scan or a "Full System" scan? Be sure you use default settings. Another thing what "actions" are you using. Also what version are you using. Correct me if I'm wrong...avast no longer supports 4.8.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: DavidR on December 11, 2010, 09:04:08 PM
OK - You're wrong, avast still supports 4.8, but it isn't a permanent situation.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 11, 2010, 09:13:23 PM
OK - You're wrong, avast still supports 4.8, but it isn't a permanent situation.
No surprise here. I'm wrong more than I want to be.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: SafeSurf on December 12, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
@ i_dont_no,

1. What version of Avast do you have?  5.0.677 is the current (non-beta) version.
2. What product of Avast do you have?  Free, Pro, AIS?
3. What type of scans do you run?  Quick, Full, Custom, Boot-time?
4. Have you changed any of your default settings in Avast, including actions to take if malware is detected?
5. Are your Avast definitions up to date?

<snip> the last thing that was scanned was on the 6/9/2009 and it was C:\user\user1\appdata\local\microsoft\windows\temp ""etc and it was a virus called JS:Redirecttor-E [Trj] and theres nothing else in the chest after that date, should i be worried?
You shouldn't, but it may depend on the answers to my above questions.

<snip> also when i do a quick scan it say a scanning error in C:\ is that related
It depends on the answers above.  Again, did you change any default settings in Avast?

Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: i_dont_no on December 12, 2010, 03:47:41 PM
I'm using avast 5.0.677 free, no beta, i do a quick scan once a week, a full/boot scan about once a month and the results always come back cant Scan (usually c:\ stuff) ,i haven't really changed settings,what should they be? the actions are sent to chest-repaire-delete. and definitions r up to date,nothing else has been in thr chest since that last date.this even happened with the previous avast,
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 12, 2010, 09:04:40 PM
I'm using avast 5.0.677 free, no beta, i do a quick scan once a week, a full/boot scan about once a month and the results always come back cant Scan (usually c:\ stuff) ,i haven't really changed settings,what should they be? the actions are sent to chest-repaire-delete. and definitions r up to date,nothing else has been in thr chest since that last date.this even happened with the previous avast,
One question comes to mind. What are the "Packer" settings? The "All Packers" box should be left unchecked. As I found out from SafeSurf and DavidR and Tech some files are by nature inert or, password protected. These file will do no harm to your computer. Password protected files include those you download then unpack to run...ie, avast, MBAM, Super-Anti-Spyware, OpenOffice and others. These files will not harm your computer either. Note: you should run a "Full Scan" at least once a day.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: DavidR on December 12, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
A daily Full Scan is IMHO unnecessary, that really is the whole point of resident on-access protection.

The on-access scanner scans files that are 'active', e.g. they are being opened/run, etc. So files that aren't being run don't present an immediate risk. The on-demand scan will not only scan files that would be scanned by the on-access scanner and the rest would in effect be dormant.

I have a Full System scan scheduled once a week and I think that is possibly more than is necessary. I could drop that down to a weekly/fortnightly Quick scan as that scan those file which a) present an immediate risk if run or b) are file types that are subject to attack.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 12, 2010, 09:24:43 PM
A daily Full Scan is IMHO unnecessary, that really is the whole point of resident on-access protection.

The on-access scanner scans files that are 'active', e.g. they are being opened/run, etc. So files that aren't being run don't present an immediate risk. The on-demand scan will not only scan files that would be scanned by the on-access scanner and the rest would in effect be dormant.

I have a Full System scan scheduled once a week and I think that is possibly more than is necessary. I could drop that down to a weekly/fortnightly Quick scan as that scan those file which a) present an immediate risk if run or b) are file types that are subject to attack.
So...I've been wasting my time. I thought a daily scan was recommended. Also, what does IMHO mean? Answers should be "dummy downed" for me.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: essexboy on December 12, 2010, 09:26:50 PM
In My Humble Opinion  ;D

I must admit I am worse than David

I only scan when my screensaver is running
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 12, 2010, 09:50:19 PM
In My Humble Opinion  ;D

I must admit I am worse than David

I only scan when my screensaver is running
I'm sorry I can't resist. Both of you must be British. Please don't forget I'm just a "dumb" American. What do we know? FYI (I do know what that means), I do a "Custom Scan" daily. My custom scan does scan more files than a "Full System Scan". If there is no threat I can always delete the results. I believe it's better safe than sorry. And besides I don't even notice the scan is running.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: DavidR on December 12, 2010, 09:51:22 PM
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So...I've been wasting my time. I thought a daily scan was recommended.

Only you can determine if it is a waste of 'your' time, especially if you have it run as a scheduled scan, then you physically aren't wasting time as you don't have to be present during the scan ;D

However, by running an on-demand scan every day you are more prone to hitting a false positive now and again. By extending the delay of your on-demand scan to a weekly/monthly scan you are limiting that potential as there is a greater likelihood that any FP would have been corrected in the interim time frame.

I have just reset my Full System scan to once a month on the 1st day of the month at a time that I know a) my system will be on and b) I won't be using it for anything processor intensive.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 12, 2010, 10:04:11 PM
Uh...Have we answered the original question yet? We kind of got off course. Which is alright for an exchange of wisdom. Isn't it? BTW no one touched my "dumb American" comment. I left an opening. Yes I have a sense of humor (humour).
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: essexboy on December 12, 2010, 10:53:30 PM
Uh...Have we answered the original question yet? We kind of got off course. Which is alright for an exchange of wisdom. Isn't it? BTW no one touched my "dumb American" comment. I left an opening. Yes I have a sense of humor (humour).
No idea what was the original question  ;D
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 12, 2010, 11:14:12 PM
Uh...Have we answered the original question yet? We kind of got off course. Which is alright for an exchange of wisdom. Isn't it? BTW no one touched my "dumb American" comment. I left an opening. Yes I have a sense of humor (humour).
No idea what was the original question  ;D
Something about the virus chest. I'm starting a new thread concerning scans. I-don't-no, have we answered your question?
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: DavidR on December 12, 2010, 11:41:00 PM
Uh...Have we answered the original question yet? We kind of got off course. Which is alright for an exchange of wisdom. Isn't it? BTW no one touched my "dumb American" comment. I left an opening. Yes I have a sense of humor (humour).

We tend not to rise to the bait ;D

As for the original question, there shouldn't be any additional files in the chest if there haven't been any other detections. Errors or Notifications aren't a direct indication of an infection.

We would need to know the full text of the error/notice to be able to give any advice, but there are many legitimate reasons why a file can't be scanned. So we need to know the file name and location and reason, the error message or notice ?
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 12, 2010, 11:49:30 PM
Uh...Have we answered the original question yet? We kind of got off course. Which is alright for an exchange of wisdom. Isn't it? BTW no one touched my "dumb American" comment. I left an opening. Yes I have a sense of humor (humour).

[We tend not to rise to the bait ;D]

As for the original question, there shouldn't be any additional files in the chest if there haven't been any other detections. Errors or Notifications aren't a direct indication of an infection.

We would need to know the full text of the error/notice to be able to give any advice, but there are many legitimate reasons why a file can't be scanned. So we need to know the file name and location and reason, the error message or notice ?
Rats!
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: essexboy on December 12, 2010, 11:51:22 PM
Maybe next time when you aren't looking  ;D
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 13, 2010, 01:17:34 AM
Maybe next time when you aren't looking  ;D
Funny!
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: DavidR on December 13, 2010, 01:25:05 AM
You still watching ;D
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: i_dont_no on December 13, 2010, 02:50:21 AM
One question comes to mind. What are the "Packer" settings? The "All Packers" box should be left unchecked. As I found out from SafeSurf and DavidR and Tech some files are by nature inert or, password protected. These file will do no harm to your computer. Password protected files include those you download then unpack to run...ie, avast, MBAM, Super-Anti-Spyware, OpenOffice and others. These files will not harm your computer either. Note: you should run a "Full Scan" at least once a day.
my packer setting are already set the first three are checked that i cannot change,what is MBAM? should i have one? i thought avast has anti-spyware? should i be having more programs for protection, if so which ones are easy to use?
how do u do that pink box thing?
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 13, 2010, 02:57:11 AM

One question comes to mind. What are the "Packer" settings? The "All Packers" box should be left unchecked. As I found out from SafeSurf and DavidR and Tech some files are by nature inert or, password protected. These file will do no harm to your computer. Password protected files include those you download then unpack to run...ie, avast, MBAM, Super-Anti-Spyware, OpenOffice and others. These files will not harm your computer either. Note: you should run a "Full Scan" at least once a day.

my packer setting are already set the first three are checked that i cannot change,what is MBAM? should i have one? i thought avast has anti-spyware? should i be having more programs for protection, if so which ones are easy to use?
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avast does have anti-malware and anti-spyware built in. MBAM is MalwareBytes Anti-Malware another good one is Super Anti-Spyware both can be safely downloaded from cnet.com. Neither conflict with avast. As far as your other problem I doubt there is anything to worry about. If the problem is recurring then I would be concerned. If possible send it to the avast labs.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: DavidR on December 13, 2010, 03:07:36 AM
Packers are the many different forms of compressing files, archives, by default only self extracting archives/packers (basically they are .exe files) are scanned by default, see image.

Yes, you should leave that box unchecked.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: DavidR on December 13, 2010, 03:11:34 AM
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how do u do that pink box thing?

You get the pink box thing by clicking on the Quote button of the post that you want to refer/comment to/on.

Care should be taken when quoted, don't quote everything (cut/edit out the bits you don't need), just the bit that you want to refer/comment to/on.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 13, 2010, 03:48:37 AM
You still watching ;D
OFF and on.
Title: Re: virus chest?
Post by: Para-Noid on December 13, 2010, 03:52:43 AM

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Care should be taken when quoted, don't quote everything (cut/edit out the bits you don't need), just the bit that you want to refer/comment to/on.
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Now I know something new. But how do you "snip"? Maybe I might be able to figure that one out.