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Title: windows xp firewall process?
Post by: KezzerDrix on August 19, 2004, 10:26:38 PM
If viewing the process list what is the name of the windows firewall process.  I want to monitor it.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: mikedallos on August 19, 2004, 10:49:36 PM
If viewing the process list what is the name of the windows firewall process.  I want to monitor it.

ICS/ICF
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: KezzerDrix on August 19, 2004, 11:19:11 PM
thank you,  curious as to have great a savings it is giving me, vs standard software firewall
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: Eddy on August 19, 2004, 11:31:08 PM
Remember that the ICF only blocks incomming, not outgoing packets. Best defense is a router with hardware firewall.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on August 21, 2004, 05:23:29 AM
As I told you before KezzerDrix, best option is to buy one of those routers/firewalls... you can go as cheap as 25 $CAD, and that's in my opinion still very affordable for students. SMC Barricade 7004VBR routers are very effective, price is more than great, and also you have 4 additional LAN ports (in case you wanna connect more than one computer in your house/apartment). Having at least one of those hardware firewalls, will give you much better protection even if it's combined with standard (read - not fancy) Windows firewall...

Cheers !
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: Staind on August 21, 2004, 07:12:55 AM
Windows firewall has never been and will never be reliable.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: RejZoR on August 21, 2004, 11:05:53 AM
Windows Firewall is more then enough good. Also buying hardware routers/firewalls for normal surfing and downloading is quiet stupid thing to do. Routers and hardware firewalls are for networks not single computer solutions. For these are software firewalls.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on August 21, 2004, 02:11:27 PM
Well that was crap RejZor... sorry, but it was... I'm running my router/firewall and I know million of other people does. I'm doing online banking every single day at least 3 times. Don't tell me it's stupid thing to have especially when everyone knows they cost around 25 - 99 $CAD... considering that very huge number of us who are on broadband connections, connected 24/7, leave their computers on all the time (my computer for instance is computing something all the time - no matter is it 3D calculating or downloading something from the internet). Of course I wouldn't bother with buying hardware firewall if I'm still on the Dial-up and I occasianlly turn on my internet connection... even if I really don't see the reason for not having it... price is main factor, they are so not expensive nowadays.

Cheers !

EDIT: For networking we use NETSCREEN and/or Netgear... btw
http://www.clearview.co.uk/netscreen_firewall.htm (http://www.clearview.co.uk/netscreen_firewall.htm)
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: bob3160 on August 21, 2004, 02:17:41 PM
Here is a VIDEO TIP (http://channels.lockergnome.com/windows/videotips/15/) from Leo A. Notenboom about the windows firewall.
Hope it helps.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: Eddy on August 21, 2004, 03:24:28 PM
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Windows Firewall is more then enough good. Also buying hardware routers/firewalls for normal surfing and downloading is quiet stupid thing to do.
Not the ICF is not enough. It doesn't block outgoing.

There is nothing wrong with setting up a systems security properly. A properly setup router/firewall will help people to avoid a lot of problems with malware, hackers and such.

You where talking major BS here.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: bob3160 on August 21, 2004, 04:05:56 PM
ARTRAS
May I ask why every post you have been making lately has to be deragatory (critical)? I'm sure this will help some people who use the windows firewall.
I didn't post this as an endorcement of the product. I'm simply passing on information. If you want to be critical, then please start a new post and mark it as such. THANKS (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH)
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: lee16 on August 21, 2004, 07:41:46 PM
bob

Where has he been critical? , he was just stating his point in my opinon, short staments say alot.

--lee    
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: bob3160 on August 21, 2004, 07:54:11 PM
Lee
My best advice is not to get into the middle of something that you are only seeing a small part of. Or, maybe you should read all of the posts.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: lee16 on August 21, 2004, 08:09:40 PM
Bob

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My best advice is not to get into the middle of something that you are only seeing a small part of. Or, maybe you should read all of the posts.

It is good advice bob, but i didn't relise i was only seeing a small part of it, i read 90% of posts on this forum if not all to try and learn more, i knew what you meant, but just didn't agree, the way i see it is the way something is said or meant to me meant can easily be mistaken online, but yet again im proberly making a fool of myself, i just don't come online to sware and fight, don't see why other people should either.

--lee
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: bob3160 on August 21, 2004, 09:30:01 PM
Lee
Couldn't agree with you more. That was my point exactly. :)
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: Gene Johnson on August 23, 2004, 04:30:41 AM
I personaly think I will stick with ZoneAlarm for the time being. Thanks Bob for the tip on the Video, it was informative.

I have known many ex-military folks. Tact is one of their weak points. It is hard to be gentle to a newbie when you have been a drill sergeant, especially when english is you second (or third) language. I find responding with humor to their brusqueness rather than derision, usually gets the point across better. Imho.

The Windows updates icon has been sitting in my system tray for two days now saying "downloading updates 0%". Come on SP2 do your thing. Yahoo has an SP2 compatability download waiting for me too.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: Eddy on August 23, 2004, 04:34:25 AM
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The Windows updates icon has been sitting in my system tray for two days now saying "downloading updates 0%".
Disable/stop the update and go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com), works much faster.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: Gene Johnson on August 23, 2004, 04:46:21 AM
I've been waiting for Windows to do it, just to see how they handled it. I will manually download however, if it is not done automatically shortly.
Title: Re:windows xp firewall process?
Post by: KezzerDrix on August 24, 2004, 10:37:23 PM
Use windows firewall for incoming and an AppWall for outgoing.  

Such as

Agnitum's Jammer
or
Pc Security <-- I use

This will lock down your outgoing while keeping system resources at a minimum

professional reviews on the subject.

http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=76 (http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=76)

http://www.winnetmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/43363/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook_43363.html (http://www.winnetmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/43363/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook_43363.html)

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/windowsxp_sp2.asp (http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/windowsxp_sp2.asp)

Plus, windows firewalls protects from boot up to shut down.  Other software firewalls only work when windows is up and running.  HENCE, the sasser, blaster virus's being able to reak havok.

AppWalls

Pc Security (i use)
http://www.tropsoft.com/pcsecurity/

Agnitum Jammer
http://www.agnitum.com/products/jammer/


I am sure there are others.  

UPDATE:  I found a freeware version of jammer at
http://www.ntu.edu.sg/CITS/SoftwareDirectory/Internet/Comm.htm

Found this FREE appwall
http://www.geocities.com/Ichinin/procwall.htm