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Title: turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: adam on August 20, 2004, 06:11:09 PM
when i am wanting to do a system defrag , how can i turn avast off? thanks adam
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: bob3160 on August 20, 2004, 06:19:00 PM
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Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: RejZoR on August 20, 2004, 06:27:18 PM
And whats that good for? Defragmentation is performed on lower level so its not interfering with defrag tool in any way. avast! won't even scan files that are being defraged. So keep avast! enabled at all times.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: MikeBCda on August 20, 2004, 06:28:40 PM
Hi adam,

Just right-click on the avast icon and select the "Close and exit" at the bottom of the menu.  This stops all resident providers, which are all you'd have problems with.  Don't forget to start them again afterwards.

Actually all you really need to do is (in that same menu) Pause the Standard shield -- none of the other providers should interfere with degragging.  Again, don't forget to resume it afterwards.

Sliightly off-topic, but closely related -- if you happen to also use Javacool's SpywareGuard.  While I don't think this is mentioned anywhere in its Help, Javacool recommends you shut that down too while defragging because of a history of problems.  Select Options, untick all three boxes, and Save Settings (your SG icon will become x'd-out), then Exit Program from its menu.

When you're done defragging, restart SG (from the deskton icon, or from the Start Menu), re-tick the 3 categories and save settings again, then close its window and it's back to normal.

Best,
Mike
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Lisandro on August 20, 2004, 07:18:04 PM
And whats that good for? Defragmentation is performed on lower level so its not interfering with defrag tool in any way. avast! won't even scan files that are being defraged. So keep avast! enabled at all times.

RejZor, do you agree that it will use CPU/RAM and, at least because of this, avast will make the defrag process slower... Even the screen saver (module of avast) will slow it down...  :-\
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: RejZoR on August 20, 2004, 07:48:00 PM
No. Memory/CPU usage has nothing to do with this. It wont be any higher and wont slow defrag process or avast! scanning. In all 5 years of extensive computer usage i have never disabled AV during defragmentation because there is simple no need to do this. Defragmentation works on lover level then antivirus so there is no interference at all.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Lisandro on August 20, 2004, 07:58:23 PM
No. Memory/CPU usage has nothing to do with this. It wont be any higher and wont slow defrag process or avast! scanning. In all 5 years of extensive computer usage i have never disabled AV during defragmentation because there is simple no need to do this. Defragmentation works on lover level then antivirus so there is no interference at all.

Thanks... I'm learning...  ;)
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Eddy on August 20, 2004, 09:23:50 PM
Simply run defrag in safe mode.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: RejZoR on August 20, 2004, 09:40:15 PM
Again not advisable. It most probably won't even run the defrager and the second one is that safe mode uses generic drivers that work on most hardware but they also provide the same performance level(bad).
Defragging will take much longer thats for sure.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: softwareguy on August 20, 2004, 09:57:13 PM
I agree with RejZoR.
In safe mode, Windows only uses PIO mode transfer.
Since defraggers uses sector based defragmentation, avast! does not scan any files that are being defragmented.
Unless you don't have enough RAM to run your defragger, you shouldn't have to turn off avast! in order to defrag your HDD. (You should upgrade your memory if that's the case :))
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Eddy on August 20, 2004, 10:00:12 PM
If you look at what people are running (services/applications), defrag in safe mode is for over 95% of the users faster than in normal mode.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: RejZoR on August 20, 2004, 10:03:30 PM
I assume you're talking about Win9x. On NT its far from being faster.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Eddy on August 20, 2004, 10:08:57 PM
Nope, also talking about NT based system. See the part where I say sevices? How many services run on 98(se)? ;D
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: lee16 on August 21, 2004, 11:30:37 AM
Well i use win98 Se and i have to close many prgrams (all exsept Explorer and systray) down before i do a defrag/scandisk or they keep restarting themselfs.

I think this is limitated t win9x though.

--lee
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Eddy on August 21, 2004, 11:41:17 AM
Lee, applications and services are two diferent things. If you boot 98(se) in safe mode you will see only systray and explorer are running. If you boot XP in safe mode you will see more things running. Not only the XP equivalent of "systray and explorer" but also some services.

btw, with the current systems defrag will clean up the drive and makes the system run a little faster, but how many people notice that? A fragmented drive doesn't have such a great impact on the systems speed as in the old days. Configuring a system correct will increase speed more noticible.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: lee16 on August 21, 2004, 11:51:03 AM
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Configuring a system correct will increase speed more noticible

Could you give some examples please Eddy   :)

--lee
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: pk on August 21, 2004, 02:08:21 PM
You dont need to stop avast standard shield, if you want to do a driver defrag. avast driver should check if file is used with defrag software.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: neal62 on August 22, 2004, 07:45:11 AM
I used Rejzors Power Defrag program. I chose the setting to scan "disk". I left my Avast program turned on during that time. I did not time the defrag but it didn't seem like it took that much time. After the defrag everything on my pc appears normal.  :D
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: softwareguy on August 22, 2004, 07:54:13 AM
PerfectDisk is a very good defragging proggie.

Disable un-necessary services in NT based systems... They will increase your speed. :)
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Eddy on August 22, 2004, 11:35:27 AM
Blackviper (http://www.blackviper.com) has a extended list with services and tells what can be shutdown. He has also some other tweaks/tips.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: bob3160 on August 22, 2004, 03:30:25 PM
Thanks Eddy
BlackViper (http://www.blackviper.com/) is an excellent source for lots of info about your OS and much more.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Lisandro on August 22, 2004, 11:07:36 PM
PerfectDisk is a very good defragging proggie.

I've never found any other as good as PerfectDisk  8)
Boot-time defragmentation. Fully scheduling feature.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Dwarden on August 23, 2004, 02:37:09 AM
PerfectDisk is a very good defragging proggie.

I've never found any other as good as PerfectDisk  8)
Boot-time defragmentation. Fully scheduling feature.


well PD is excelent but have 1 small missing feature: defrag of Dynamic Disk ...

in that case i suggest use O&O Defrag 6.5 ...

it's hard tell which of O&O Defrag 6.5, PefectDisk 6 and DiskKeeper (10 or what ever is latest :) is better ...
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: Gene Johnson on August 23, 2004, 06:49:54 AM
To throw my two cents worth in. I have defragged leaving things on and turning everything off. It goes faster on my system with everything turned off. I also delete all prefetch files, use Disc Cleanup, etc. to eliminate all files I can before performing a Defrag.

I use Rejzor's Power Defrag first, then I use the Windows Defrag. If I use each alone I end up with a few fragmented files scattered on the disc. When used together usually there are NO fragmented files and NO gaps on the disc. Try it. It makes for a very clean system.
Title: Re:turn avast off , when doing system defrag?
Post by: RejZoR on August 23, 2004, 10:43:24 AM
I had MultiPass Defragmentation(TM) incorporated into my Power Defragmenter,but it was removed. Maybe i'll add it again with some improvements.