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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: roro on January 22, 2011, 12:20:39 PM
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I have been looking at online backup services, and wonder what is the best one. I would like one that will work over my home network. I have noticed that some of you use Moby. I would love some suggestions, and a service that isn't too expensive. My brother uses Carbonite and seems to like it, but I have read about some problems with that service. ???
RoRo
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Tech, me and others use Mozy (http://mozy.com/home/free/?ref=6d8b8585&s_kwcid=TC|12983|mozy%20free||S|e|6032332445&gclid=COLRjevZzaYCFYE3pAod-QlLIg). Latest free version's "confirmation" popup looks more ad-like than before but it's generally configurable, reliable and trouble-free.
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Roro, I just use free online backup services.
Some comparison charts:
http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=125729&page=4&type=table&zoomIdx=1
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-online-backup-sites.htm
http://www.labnol.org/internet/best-online-backup-services/14218/ (there is an error about Mozy: it allows backups of 2 computers)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_backup_service
Shortly: use Mozy :)
If you use the link on my signature you'll get 256Mb plus of free online storage and will give me 256Mb also :)
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If you have hotmail, you already have 25GB skydrive....
http://explore.live.com/windows-live-skydrive
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Me I'm the trusting sort (NOT) and won't place my backups in the hands of others, even if it is encrypted (and encryption under whose control), who is to say when they might stop the service and your access to the backups is toast.
Uploading masses of data could take some time also, I much prefer to do my backups on my system where they are in my control. They can be to an external hard disk, USB or DVD, etc. so all isn't lost if you have a problem that necessitates the backup if you haven't got access to the internet.
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Me I'm the trusting sort (NOT) and won't place my backups in the hands of others, even if it is encrypted (and encryption under whose control), who is to say when they might stop the service and your access to the backups is toast.
Two different kinds of backups: local and remote.
Local media could fail, they could be stolen... Remote service could be drop. Apples and oranges :)
Uploading masses of data could take some time also, I much prefer to do my backups on my system where they are in my control. They can be to an external hard disk, USB or DVD, etc. so all isn't lost if you have a problem that necessitates the backup if you haven't got access to the internet.
Mozy is completely configurable, it's all by your control: number of updates per day, scheduling, bandwidth used, what to backup, backup of files in use, versioning (i.e., all changes made to a particular file, not only the last one on local backup).
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I completely agree with DavidR on this. I prefer backing up to an external drive. No worries about who has access to it, or uploading or downloading, or internet connection problems, hacked site, etc. Would not like to have my personal information all over the internet. If banks can be hacked what would keep an online storage site from being hacked? The chances of anyone stealing my portable drive is very slim. The only thing that I think it would be good for is if a had a fire or some other tragedy and lost everything. Then it would have been nice to have backed it up online.
It's your call though. How you want to store your personal information is up to you.
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I prefer backing up to an external drive.
Ok. Me too. But for me, one thing does not exclude the other.
Do you know a good versioning local backup? I mean, one freeware that makes copies of your changed files and all its "versions"?
The only thing that I think it would be good for is if a had a fire or some other tragedy and lost everything. Then it would have been nice to have backed it up online.
:)
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Uploading masses of data could take some time also, I much prefer to do my backups on my system where they are in my control. They can be to an external hard disk, USB or DVD, etc. so all isn't lost if you have a problem that necessitates the backup if you haven't got access to the internet.
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I'll stick to my external hard disk and internal second hard drive.
I don't have Brazilian hooligans nor Favelas here. ;)
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I don't have prejudices in my heart. It's much better than to have a small heart against poor people.
No discrimination for me. Thanks.
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I like Tech, also think Mozy is an excellent on-line backup.
If I remember correctly, I introduced Tech to Mozy some years ago. :)
I also do regular Image back-ups to an external drive.
That way, I have the best of both worlds. :)
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I have tried Mozy and didn't much care for it. I don't store much on line but I use Photobucket for some pictures so I can have links to them for forum pages that don't let you upload or insert pics. I also use Adrive.com to store things. It gives you 50gb of free space.
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There's a big difference between storing things and having your things continually backed up. :)
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I have been reading all your comments and appreciate all the information. I too, have an external backup, and have backed up most of my files, but I don't do that every week and sometimes get a little lazy. I also transfer important and newly changed files to my husband's computer via our personal network and any really important files to a thumb drive. I guess losing my files to a fire or some other unforeseen tragedy concerned me, and having a full backup automatically updated on line that could be retrieved for a machine that lost its hard drive sounds wonderful.
I am a little nervous about giving up all my information as I do save passwords/usernames on my computer browsers. They would be backed up also, wouldn't they.
I do have hotmail and didn't realize they had that much free online space. I assume that it is just for files and not a full backup.
Mozy definitely sounds interesting, but while checking it out through one of Tech's links, I found that you can't access your files from the web. that would seem to be a problem, if you needed your files immediately.
Carbonite is the only one that I see that has web access with unlimited gigs and a good price. Has anyone on this site used it?
If anyone else sees this topic and has more information, I would be happy to hear it.
Thanks again,
RoRo 8) 8)
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I found that you can't access your files from the web. that would seem to be a problem, if you needed your files immediately.
You can restore files from your backup to your system.
You can't access them. It's not a file storage service but a backup and restore service. :)
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If I remember correctly, I introduced Tech to Mozy some years ago. :)
Most probably. Am I listed in your referrals?
That way, I have the best of both worlds. :)
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I am a little nervous about giving up all my information as I do save passwords/usernames on my computer browsers. They would be backed up also, wouldn't they.
Which browser do you use? You can use Lastpass to store your passwords.
I assume that it is just for files and not a full backup.
Yes. And with size limit, I think it is for up 50Mb for each file only.
Mozy definitely sounds interesting, but while checking it out through one of Tech's links, I found that you can't access your files from the web.
You need to download it. Access from web is for Google Docs or Windows Live.
If you needed your files immediately.
Download it. No problem.
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There's a big difference between storing things and having your things continually backed up. :)
Adrive can do that too if you pay for it. I'd rather not have automatic backups being done.
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Adrive can do that too if you pay for it.
Although limited in size, Mozy does that for free :)
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Adrive can do that too if you pay for it.
Although limited in size, Mozy does that for free :)
With only 2gb of space, what good is it?
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With only 2gb of space, what good is it?
Well... With referrals you could earn more free space.
Also, 2Gb is 2Gb after all. Documents and sheets do not take that much space.
You can always choose local backup or Windows SkyDrive to backup media files (movies, etc.).
By the way, Roro, you can test Mozy after all. If you don't like it, drop it :)
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Dch48,
Use Mozy to back up 2gb of your most important files. ;)
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Dch48,
Use Mozy to back up 2gb of your most important files. ;)
I don't need it. It requires a software download and installation for one thing and secondly, I do a regular backup of those things on a DVD-RW which can hold more than twice as much.
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I use Wuala, and I just love it.
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I use Wuala, and I just love it.
Too limited compared with Mozy. Less storage for free, less features...
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Adrive can do that too if you pay for it.
Although limited in size, Mozy does that for free :)
With only 2gb of space, what good is it?
I personally have 10 gig of space and Yes Tech you are on my referral list. :)
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If you use a Mac then Mozy is the only choice that works. Carbonate and the rest have extremely poor Mac clients. Example they can not backup from any drive other than the boot volume. If you have your drive partitioned or use a external FireWire/USB drive then it will not be backed up unless using Mozy.
The downside to Mozy is you can not recover data cross platform, so if your PC crashed you could not recover that data from your Mac which is a big letdown.
Plus with so many ISPs starting to use low caps online backup is getting harder to use.
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I use Wuala, and I just love it.
Too limited compared with Mozy. Less storage for free, less features...
Less features? In wuala I can even share and sync not just backup as mozy does.
I have 12 Gb of space and I don't have paid nothing and I don't have referrals.
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Plus with so many ISPs starting to use low caps online backup is getting harder to use.
Can you elaborate?
disPlay, I don't understand your situation.
My information I've taken here: http://www.wuala.com/en/pricing/
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Plus with so many ISPs starting to use low caps online backup is getting harder to use.
Can you elaborate?
disPlay, I don't understand your situation.
My information I've taken here: http://www.wuala.com/en/pricing/
For exampleUsers Revolting Against Shaw's New, High Pricing
Steep per gig overage charges spread across Canada
by Karl Bode Wednesday 12-Jan-2011
Last October we noted how Canadian cable operator Shaw was testing a low cap, high per gigabyte ($1-2 per) overage model -- with plans to fully launch such pricing this year. Shaw's now planning to expand this type of pricing model starting February 1 according to the CBC. Canadian consumers in our Shaw forum aren't particularly pleased, and a large number of threads have popped up from angry customers, who are trying to vote with their wallet -- only to realize most (except a few, like Telus) Canadian ISPs are now imposing significant overage fees. As we noted last week, a lack of real competition in Canada and well-lobbied Canadian regulators have allowed incumbent ISPs to implement this new pricing, which competing ISPs proclaim isn't based on real world economics. What it's based on, according to smaller ISPs, is a desire to cash in on Internet video, and kill off Canada's last few remaining independent ISPs.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Users-Revolting-Against-Shaws-New-High-Pricing-112219
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I see, pay for bandwidth... When that occurs with my ISP, I'll drop Mozy or use it into my bandwidth limits...
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Me I'm the trusting sort (NOT) and won't place my backups in the hands of others, even if it is encrypted (and encryption under whose control), who is to say when they might stop the service and your access to the backups is toast.
Uploading masses of data could take some time also, I much prefer to do my backups on my system where they are in my control. They can be to an external hard disk, USB or DVD, etc. so all isn't lost if you have a problem that necessitates the backup if you haven't got access to the internet.
I completely agree. Yet there are times where a fire or other disaster could happen. If you're away from your home or can't get to the drives fast enough, you're SOL. Online backup or off-site is still needed if you REALLY want to make sure your stuff is recoverable.
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I use multiple external hard drives because problems can happen in external drives much easier than internal. I tried the Smartware that came with one of my WD drives. I removed it after first backup. When I rebooted it pushed ram usage past 7 gig scanning for changes! The only Smart person in that project is the one that sold them the software.
Joe
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Wow!!!
What a lot of information. It will take me a few days to go through all these suggestions. Is there anyone on this site that does use Carbonite?
I haven't noticed it was mentioned here, but I have gone to some websites reviewing it.
Again an automatic backup would be reassuring.
RoRo
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I have a Seagate FreeAgent as my external backup hard drive. It can and will do automatic backups at a time you select.
The strange thing is that a Carbonite offer came with the drive. I did not try it's free time-limited offer as that is why I bought the Seagate external drive. Why would I want to trust my backups with a time-limited offer?
I too am like David in that I am not trusting with on-line backups. Someone else would have control of my data.
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Plus with so many ISPs starting to use low caps online backup is getting harder to use.
Can you elaborate?
disPlay, I don't understand your situation.
My information I've taken here: http://www.wuala.com/en/pricing/
If you share a bit of your hard drive you can earn online space in wuala. And your account gets pro. Per computer you can Share up to 100 GB of your harddrive and you can earn per computer up to 100 GB of cloud space. I'm Sharing 10 GB of local space and I am wining wining 12 GB.
1 GB- Starting Space
3 GB- People that I invite to enter in wuala(Referals)
7.9 GB- Space I earn by trading storage.
Total=12 GB basicly for free.
I use also the Wuala Sync option to sync the information to another computer in My LAN network, So I can Have the information in the cloud and Also on my computer if wuala fails.
Encryption: http://www.wuala.com/blog/2011/01/why-encryption-matters.html
This explains how wuala works.
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I too am like David in that I am not trusting with on-line backups. Someone else would have control of my data.
I like to have my backus where I can see them and if I was paranoid then I would keep my latest backup in a safety deposit box at my bank as I can walk there and be able to retrieve my data and get a loan to replace my damaged systems. ;D
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Roro
You definitely do not want the Western Digital Smartware or Anytime Backup they offer. They are both buggy crap.
Joe
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Blame me: Mozy scraps unlimited backups
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20030096-264.html?tag=cnetRiver