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Title: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 22, 2011, 09:47:06 PM
1. Autosandboxing. The AutoSandbox feature allows avast! to automatically run any suspicious program inside the avast! sandbox at the moment the program is executed. This ensures that no damage can be done to your operating system or your files.
Promised by Vlk.

2. SafeZone. SafeZone is a unique feature that allows you to run your trusted sessions shielded from the rest of the operating system. By switching to the SafeZone, you will get a clean desktop where you can manage your sensitive transactions (such as online shopping and banking) without the risk of being monitored by spyware or a key-logger.
Promised by pk.

Would this only be for browsers or for the entire desktop, I mean, you can install programs and the session would be dismissed afterwards. Does it "freeze" (virtualize) the browser or the entire desktop? If this is true, this is a FANTASTIC tool to test software, like it would be "freeze" tools (Wondershare, Returnil, Acronis...). Can you confirm how would it behave?
... Anyway... seems I'm dreaming too much...

3. Reset now button. Resetting program settings to their default values. This feature lets you reset the avast! settings to their default values. Please be careful as you will lose all your custom settings. This action cannot be undone.
Desired by tons of users! Thanks.

4. WebRep. This new version comes with an innovative module called avast! WebRep which allows you to view reputation ratings for each website that you visit and for your web search results. WebRep integrates with your browser so that you can view the ratings immediately. Already in beta test phase.

5. Sidebar gadget monitoring avast!. Windows gadget.

6. avast! Business Protection Administration Console. After logging in to the Administration Console, you will be able to see all of the computers that the Console has detected. You can then select the computers on which to install avast, either remotely or by email, and you can also define other jobs and schedule when they should be run, such as nightly scans of all managed computers.

7. Localized reports. Not only in English now!

More to come!  8)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: igor on January 22, 2011, 09:57:00 PM
Well... a few notes:
- you're mixing several products together (user-end / business editions)
- some of the features (such as SafeZone) will only be present in the paid versions
- the fact that something is in the translation package... doesn't make it 100% sure to appear in the program (could be delayed till some future version, could even be changed in between). Not that I have anything in particular on mind, just speaking generally... might be better to wait till the things are really done - and not be disappointed if they're not ;)

As for the SafeZone, I would guess it's something else than what you imagine, but I haven't seen it myself yet, so I better won't talk about it.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 22, 2011, 09:59:46 PM
Just that we love some kind of "secrets revelations" ;D
By the way, Igor. The translation is almost 50% done :)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: danny96 on January 22, 2011, 10:06:07 PM
this all will be in free or only in paid versions?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Gargamel360 on January 22, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
this all will be in free or only in paid versions?

Re:
- some of the features (such as SafeZone) will only be present in the paid versions
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: 12-es_csaj on January 22, 2011, 10:13:24 PM
Auto-Sandboxing in the Free? Or not?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: danny96 on January 22, 2011, 10:13:37 PM
this all will be in free or only in paid versions?

Re:
- some of the features (such as SafeZone) will only be present in the paid versions
and that's all ? other things will be free?

autosandboxing - free
WebRep - free
...

Tech & Igor
Thanks for posting the news!

I think that this should help everyone!

ps. admins should stick this topic
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: danny96 on January 22, 2011, 10:14:00 PM
Auto-Sandboxing in the Free? Or not?
Basic sandbox yes...
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 22, 2011, 10:27:38 PM
I not too sure about the reset button. If someone uses the settings right they shouldn't have to reset. I have avast just the way I want it and if the process cannot be undone I could lose all my settings. Not a good idea! Leave the reset button out (my opinion).
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Rednose on January 22, 2011, 10:37:04 PM
Thnx Tech :)

So Secure Desktop is called SafeZone now. Btw it is good that we will finaly get a Reset option :)

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Aethec on January 22, 2011, 10:45:13 PM
I don't understand that "SafeZone" thing. Is it virtualization, or rather a "secure" desktop like UAC does when prompting?

@Para-Noid >> Having a Reset button does not mean you'll be forced to do it  ;)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 22, 2011, 11:00:34 PM
Thnx Tech :)

So Secure Desktop is called SafeZone now. Btw it is good that we will finaly get a Reset option :)

Greetz, Red.
Hey Rednose...Ah heck!
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: burleymr07 on January 22, 2011, 11:14:14 PM
cant wait for these :) the release probably wont be till summer right?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 22, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
I don't understand that "SafeZone" thing. Is it virtualization, or rather a "secure" desktop like UAC does when prompting?

@Para-Noid >> Having a Reset button does not mean you'll be forced to do it  ;)
Yeah...I know.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: pk on January 22, 2011, 11:47:39 PM
I don't understand that "SafeZone" thing. Is it virtualization, or rather a "secure" desktop like UAC does when prompting?

Imagine it as a new desktop - you can switch from default desktop to secured desktop. This 2nd desktop is ideal for applications you'd like to isolate from the rest of already running applications in the system (windows/dialogs running on the 2nd desktop cannot be touched/read/monitored from the default one), etc. Good for web browsing, banking, shopping...

In the first version, the only app which can be executed there will be a special web browser. But we plan to support all other apps (however, this requires some GUI settings and this is not ready yet).
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: sded on January 22, 2011, 11:50:48 PM
Just a couple of immediate comments:

3. Reset button:  How about a save and restore button instead. I am not looking for just a reset; I want to be able to save and restore any settings.  Have different configurations for different purposes, especially the firewall.  An autosave of the initial installation of a version would be nice, but not necessary.

4. Since many of us already have something like WebRep in one form or another, I guess I miss the innovation part, although having a version from Avast! is certainly nice.  Opera already gives me fraud and malware warnings from Netcraft Phishtank and lets me report sites directly from Opera.  I presume other browsers have something similar.  And I also have Prevx Safeonline (many have the free version) which also allows me to set security policy for a site based on reputation or characteristics.  Many also use WOT (I don't), which seems like a mixed bag from user reports.  And OA supplies trust status by domain and an advanced banking mode to essentially lock down financial institutions.  I guess I need to understand WebRep's eventual niche better.

OFF TOPIC: What the user input/reputation/voting type programs generally share is a lack of insight into the risks of either declaring a site malicious or not.  And under what criteria that should be done-raw user counts/percentages are not the answer.  Generally the impacts of FA's are much less than the impacts of False Dismissals (declare a malware site as OK) since they are much easier to undo, so the user needs help in understanding how high a percentage of users need to call out a site as safe in order to really declare it safe.  And how confident you are based on user count and other factors also.  And what to do about the effects of users declaring sites safe just so they can get access to the dirty movies no matter what. (I have a true life 80+YO example I have been trying to help ;) ).  And how many users went along with the WebRep recommendation and then had to do things over.  The Prevx type approach of taking much of this out of the users hands has a lot of benefits technically, but brings in some other problems like privacy and user control-more instrumentation and decision making aids do look like the proper avenue though.  But probably far beyond the intent of WebRep.   8)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Rednose on January 22, 2011, 11:53:03 PM
I don't understand that "SafeZone" thing. Is it virtualization, or rather a "secure" desktop like UAC does when prompting?

Imagine it as a new desktop - you can switch from default desktop to secured desktop. This 2nd desktop is ideal for applications you'd like to isolate from the rest of already running applications in the system (windows/dialogs running on the 2nd desktop cannot be touched/read/monitored from the default one), etc. Good for web browsing, banking, shopping...

In the first version, the only app which can be executed there will be a special web browser. But we plan to support all other apps (however, this requires some GUI settings and this is not ready yet).


Hey Petr :)

Can you already show us something from SafeZone next month in Prague ???

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 23, 2011, 12:05:02 AM
I like sded's idea. A "save and/or restore" button would be good. Even the modified sandbox would be nice.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: DavidR on January 23, 2011, 01:45:55 AM
The ability to save your current settings and the ability to import saved settings is I feel essential. I have recently done a number of clean installs on two systems and boy would it have saved a lot of time not having to manually set all my customisations, exclusions, etc.

Whilst the Restore defaults is a step in the right direction, I don't think it as essential as being able to save the existing settings and import previously saved settings. After all a clean reinstall will restore defaults.

Another option that has been previously mentioned is to flag default settings with an * in the UI.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Rednose on January 23, 2011, 01:56:39 AM
DavidR has a point here ( Again, as useal :P ). I agree :)

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 23, 2011, 02:02:13 AM
I not too sure about the reset button. If someone uses the settings right they shouldn't have to reset. I have avast just the way I want it and if the process cannot be undone I could lose all my settings. Not a good idea! Leave the reset button out (my opinion).
Seems it is configurable, i.e., you can reset program settings and the custom scannings.
This is an old wish of a lot of users. I think a great improvement since version 4.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 23, 2011, 02:04:19 AM
Imagine it as a new desktop - you can switch from default desktop to secured desktop. This 2nd desktop is ideal for applications you'd like to isolate from the rest of already running applications in the system (windows/dialogs running on the 2nd desktop cannot be touched/read/monitored from the default one), etc. Good for web browsing, banking, shopping...
Fantastic idea! Congratulations!

In the first version, the only app which can be executed there will be a special web browser. But we plan to support all other apps (however, this requires some GUI settings and this is not ready yet).
Would we be able to install applications in this secure desktop?
Does it virtualizes the system file and registry?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Charyb on January 23, 2011, 02:11:38 AM
1. I like the reset to defaults option. Also, really like DavidR suggestion of save and restore configurations. It would be handy to be able to restore your "personal" defaults/preferences.

2. Auto-sandboxing: I assume that this will be done using a whitelist? Just wondering how a program will be rated as suspicious? And will we be able to exclude programs?

3. WebRep: Browser add-on. Won't slow things down will it?

4. SafeZone: Is this a virtualized desktop and will all data be safely deleted upon exiting?

5. I hope the GUI remains uncluttered.

6. Can't wait to try it all. Like a kid in a candy store. Thanks
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 23, 2011, 02:11:58 AM
sded, I share with you some of your opinions about ratings and site reputation. I think it is for experts and not for users polls. But I'm thinking it not like a security tool but just an indication of the site type, very useful imho for the search pages if it gets populated, i.e., if people take time to vote.

The ability to save your current settings and the ability to import saved settings is I feel essential.
Indeed it will help a lot. Hope we can do this step forward in the future versions.
At least the reset button is a movement toward that.

Whilst the Restore defaults is a step in the right direction, I don't think it as essential as being able to save the existing settings and import previously saved settings. After all a clean reinstall will restore defaults.
But, at least, for common users, it will save some time and don't require the uninstall/reinstall procedure.

Another option that has been previously mentioned is to flag default settings with an * in the UI.
Could be good. But will change the interface a lot and there are numbers, written text, etc. that is difficult to set what is default and what is not.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 23, 2011, 02:14:20 AM
2. Auto-sandboxing: I assume that this will be done using a whitelist? Just wondering how a program will be rated as suspicious? And will we be able to exclude programs?
It won't be a whitelist. Vlk has posted before about that and the difficulty of building a whitelist.
It will be based on suspicious behavior, rules, heuristic analysis and signatures.
I suppose you can remove a program from the sandbox... "Run outside sandbox" option.

3. WebRep: Browser add-on. Won't slow things down will it?
Well, a little. But, after all, it's an optional item. You can choose.

4. SafeZone: Is this a virtualized desktop?
Still a mystery for us.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: DavidR on January 23, 2011, 02:32:33 AM
<snip>
Another option that has been previously mentioned is to flag default settings with an * in the UI.
Could be good. But will change the interface a lot and there are numbers, written text, etc. that is difficult to set what is default and what is not.

Well it is one character at the end of the option name (two if there is a space before the *) for default settings or before the check box, which is possibly better when that has more room. That would need a one line explanation that the * means a default setting, either at the top of the avast Settings or in the avast Help Center.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: schmidthouse on January 23, 2011, 02:47:22 AM
The ability to save your current settings and the ability to import saved settings is I feel essential. I have recently done a number of clean installs on two systems and boy would it have saved a lot of time not having to manually set all my customisations, exclusions, etc.

+1 Agreed...'Import' and 'Save' should definitely be what we shot for. ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: LunarWolf on January 23, 2011, 02:54:30 AM
If there is a sidebar gadget, please do away with it. It is not necessary. It will just add to the bloat.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: wonderwrench on January 23, 2011, 03:01:56 AM
I not too sure about the reset button. If someone uses the settings right they shouldn't have to reset. I have avast just the way I want it and if the process cannot be undone I could lose all my settings. Not a good idea! Leave the reset button out (my opinion).

IMO each group of settings should have a way to set the settings back to default. Not just a global reset. Better yet would be a method to tell if any setting was not in the default state.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: DavidR on January 23, 2011, 03:02:41 AM
If there is a sidebar gadget, please do away with it. It is not necessary. It will just add to the bloat.

Like most things in avast you aren't forced to use it.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: wonderwrench on January 23, 2011, 03:05:04 AM
The ability to save your current settings and the ability to import saved settings is I feel essential. I have recently done a number of clean installs on two systems and boy would it have saved a lot of time not having to manually set all my customisations, exclusions, etc.

Whilst the Restore defaults is a step in the right direction, I don't think it as essential as being able to save the existing settings and import previously saved settings. After all a clean reinstall will restore defaults.

Another option that has been previously mentioned is to flag default settings with an * in the UI.

+1 right on the mark!
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 23, 2011, 03:29:52 AM
I not too sure about the reset button. If someone uses the settings right they shouldn't have to reset. I have avast just the way I want it and if the process cannot be undone I could lose all my settings. Not a good idea! Leave the reset button out (my opinion).
Seems it is configurable, i.e., you can reset program settings and the custom scannings.
This is an old wish of a lot of users. I think a great improvement since version 4.
Do you mean that a user could customize then reset to default settings then restore the customized settings?
If possible this would make everyone happy.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: danny96 on January 23, 2011, 08:58:20 AM
If there is a sidebar gadget, please do away with it. It is not necessary. It will just add to the bloat.
-1
Avast gadget will be nice addition to your desktop
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Asyn on January 23, 2011, 09:07:51 AM
3. WebRep: Browser add-on. Won't slow things down will it?

No slowing down here with FF, atm...
asyn
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: ImWarm on January 23, 2011, 10:47:16 AM
Shouldn't Safezone be exclusive to AIS? Safezone protects your identity, and AIS is meant for those who shop and bank online. Avast Pro should only be a full featured antivirus with the added sandbox, and not guarding against identity theft. Right?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: GaAs on January 23, 2011, 03:09:14 PM
I think the virtualization of all processes is the right way to go, and Avast is doing very well in this field. However, I believe that as long as not to create an operating system completely shielded from unauthorized changes (eg: registry) Avast should also aim to integrate the control of protected areas (or not) of the registry, and include points of recovery.
 I noticed that many people my friends less experienced and more naive suffered infections from malware just got out of the oven that have contaminated the system because of the weakness of the control register every time they were reloaded at startup. The forum is full of these reports and it is absurd that such should be advised to use other programs that are able to remove the registry keys infected because Avast does not.
 In any case, I repeat, Avast in my opinion, are following a very good way, and the feedback his team with our users and customers is the winning side of this company.
 ;)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 23, 2011, 03:57:50 PM
If there is a sidebar gadget, please do away with it. It is not necessary. It will just add to the bloat.
Do not install it if you do not like it :)

Do you mean that a user could customize then reset to default settings then restore the customized settings?
As far I could understand, no, you can't restore customized settings. You can only restore the default ones.

Shouldn't Safezone be exclusive to AIS? Safezone protects your identity, and AIS is meant for those who shop and bank online. Avast Pro should only be a full featured antivirus with the added sandbox, and not guarding against identity theft. Right?
Yes, right, it will be only in paid versions of the suite (AIS).

The forum is full of these reports and it is absurd that such should be advised to use other programs that are able to remove the registry keys infected because Avast does not.
Yes, it would be good a better registry cleaning (when infected).
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Silk0 on January 23, 2011, 04:04:31 PM
And about the fully working Behavior Shield?
Gonna be one more feature for version 6.0, right? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: ImWarm on January 23, 2011, 05:11:01 PM
Shouldn't Safezone be exclusive to AIS? Safezone protects your identity, and AIS is meant for those who shop and bank online. Avast Pro should only be a full featured antivirus with the added sandbox, and not guarding against identity theft. Right?
Yes, right, it will be only in paid versions of the suite (AIS).

Thanks Tech for replying. But I could've sworn I read that Safezone will be in the Pro version also. ??? (probably said by pk) There should be more incentive to buy AIS, and identity protection is AIS's job.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 23, 2011, 05:33:58 PM
And about the fully working Behavior Shield?
Gonna be one more feature for version 6.0, right? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes. They promised that, i.e., BeS will be in active mode: when a suspicious program (action) is detected it will be automatically sandboxed and avast will alert you about that.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 23, 2011, 05:35:03 PM
Thanks Tech for replying.
I do not have that info. I don't know much more than you...
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: bri on January 23, 2011, 05:52:59 PM
version 6 sounds great and avast your going in the right direction with virtualization(fantastic news) and bb.the safezone sounds vey interesting.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 24, 2011, 02:15:10 AM
If there is a sidebar gadget, please do away with it. It is not necessary. It will just add to the bloat.
Do not install it if you do not like it :)

Do you mean that a user could customize then reset to default settings then restore the customized settings?
As far I could understand, no, you can't restore customized settings. You can only restore the default ones.

Shouldn't Safezone be exclusive to AIS? Safezone protects your identity, and AIS is meant for those who shop and bank online. Avast Pro should only be a full featured antivirus with the added sandbox, and not guarding against identity theft. Right?
Yes, right, it will be only in paid versions of the suite (AIS).

The forum is full of these reports and it is absurd that such should be advised to use other programs that are able to remove the registry keys infected because Avast does not.
Yes, it would be good a better registry cleaning (when infected).
Sorry, I don't know how to pick just a portion of a quote. What I would like to see is after a user "customize" their settings, have a "save" function and a "reset to default" function. All in the same package. That way if someone resets they can recall their own personal settings with the "save" function.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 24, 2011, 02:20:18 AM
What I would like to see is after a user "customize" their settings, have a "save" function and a "reset to default" function. All in the same package. That way if someone resets they can recall their own personal settings with the "save" function.
Seems that, the first step is only the "reset" button. The export/import features do not seem to be there (yet) on version 6.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 24, 2011, 04:33:39 AM
What I would like to see is after a user "customize" their settings, have a "save" function and a "reset to default" function. All in the same package. That way if someone resets they can recall their own personal settings with the "save" function.
Seems that, the first step is only the "reset" button. The export/import features do not seem to be there (yet) on version 6.
That's what I thought. I doesn't hurt to ask or hope for.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: BrollyLSSJ on January 24, 2011, 12:27:26 PM
The features sound good. I am eager to test it.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: comicwm on January 24, 2011, 02:53:17 PM
that means a  Shadow Mode?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Rednose on January 24, 2011, 05:14:26 PM
Shouldn't Safezone be exclusive to AIS? Safezone protects your identity, and AIS is meant for those who shop and bank online. Avast Pro should only be a full featured antivirus with the added sandbox, and not guarding against identity theft. Right?
Yes, right, it will be only in paid versions of the suite (AIS).

Thanks Tech for replying. But I could've sworn I read that Safezone will be in the Pro version also. ??? (probably said by pk) There should be more incentive to buy AIS, and identity protection is AIS's job.


I asked Petr, but he doesn't know right now if SafeZone will be available in both paid Avast! versions.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: yowanvista on January 24, 2011, 07:56:33 PM
Nice to see one of my request added (#5)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: ImWarm on January 24, 2011, 11:01:47 PM
Shouldn't Safezone be exclusive to AIS? Safezone protects your identity, and AIS is meant for those who shop and bank online. Avast Pro should only be a full featured antivirus with the added sandbox, and not guarding against identity theft. Right?
Yes, right, it will be only in paid versions of the suite (AIS).

Thanks Tech for replying. But I could've sworn I read that Safezone will be in the Pro version also. ??? (probably said by pk) There should be more incentive to buy AIS, and identity protection is AIS's job.


I asked Petr, but he doesn't know right now if SafeZone will be available in both paid Avast! versions.

Greetz, Red.

Thanks for asking, Red. :)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 24, 2011, 11:56:08 PM
Well... a few notes:
- you're mixing several products together (user-end / business editions)
- some of the features (such as SafeZone) will only be present in the paid versions
- the fact that something is in the translation package... doesn't make it 100% sure to appear in the program (could be delayed till some future version, could even be changed in between). Not that I have anything in particular on mind, just speaking generally... might be better to wait till the things are really done - and not be disappointed if they're not ;)

As for the SafeZone, I would guess it's something else than what you imagine, but I haven't seen it myself yet, so I better won't talk about it.

Hey will WebRep thing be in the free version?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: GloobyGoob on January 25, 2011, 12:01:11 AM
I can't seem to find this on the forum, so I'll post it here: http://public.avast.com/mkt/20110124_Avast_Autosandbox.pdf
This gives a bit of info on how the sandboxing is going to work.

btw, Safezone sounds really nice. :)
I hope applications other than web browsers could be executed in Safezone as well.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: GloobyGoob on January 25, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
Hey will WebRep thing be in the free version?

Yes, according to Vlk, it will be integrated into avast 6.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Rednose on January 25, 2011, 12:23:49 AM
btw, Safezone sounds really nice. :)
I hope applications other than web browsers could be executed in Safezone as well.

From Petr :

In the first version, the only app which can be executed there will be a special web browser. But we plan to support all other apps (however, this requires some GUI settings and this is not ready yet).

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Hermite15 on January 25, 2011, 12:43:26 AM
... will WebRep thing be in the free version?

of course it will, that's a great statistic tool for Avast ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: GloobyGoob on January 25, 2011, 12:48:02 AM
btw, Safezone sounds really nice. :)
I hope applications other than web browsers could be executed in Safezone as well.

From Petr :

In the first version, the only app which can be executed there will be a special web browser. But we plan to support all other apps (however, this requires some GUI settings and this is not ready yet).

Greetz, Red.

Thanks for the info Red. ;)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: iRonzel on January 25, 2011, 01:39:53 AM
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4. WebRep. This new version comes with an innovative module called avast! WebRep which allows you to view reputation ratings for each website that you visit and for your web search results. WebRep integrates with your browser so that you can view the ratings immediately. Already in beta test phase.

You can explain more about this? Thnak

How will function?

It will be like "powered-by" Avast! members?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: iRonzel on January 25, 2011, 01:44:47 AM
5. Sidebar gadget monitoring avast!. Windows gadget.

This will be a substitutive for screen saver scan, isn't it?

Sorry for my ignorance about the new features.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Rednose on January 25, 2011, 02:01:19 AM
Quote
4. WebRep. This new version comes with an innovative module called avast! WebRep which allows you to view reputation ratings for each website that you visit and for your web search results. WebRep integrates with your browser so that you can view the ratings immediately. Already in beta test phase.

You can explain more about this? Thnak

How will function?

It will be like "powered-by" Avast! members?

Yes, the success of WebRep depends on the Avast! users base. You can vote on about what degree you like a website ( or not ), and on what the contents of the website is.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 25, 2011, 02:04:56 AM
I guess avast! has been listening to our ideas on the [Wishlist] topic  ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Rednose on January 25, 2011, 02:09:09 AM
5. Sidebar gadget monitoring avast!. Windows gadget.

This will be a substitutive for screen saver scan, isn't it?

Sorry for my ignorance about the new features.

We don't have any information so far about the Sidebar gadget, but I don't beleve it has anything to do with the Screen saver scan.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: derry on January 25, 2011, 03:24:08 AM
I can see it now comodo backlashing on avast for doing this. Rofl can anyone else see it?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: BRANDONN2008 on January 25, 2011, 03:27:34 AM
I've got a question about the auto-sandboxing. If you were using a policy-based sandbox like GeSWall or Defensewall, would using the autosandbox be redundant and/or cause conflicts? Would it be better to turn off the sandboxing?

I can see it now comodo backlashing on avast for doing this. Rofl can anyone else see it?

Yes, I'm waiting for that to happen.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Hermite15 on January 25, 2011, 11:28:37 AM
Avast won't use the same parameters at all as Comodo to auto-sandbox, meaning that possible critics of plagiarism won't be relevant ::)... and honestly, what Comodo thinks ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Sparxx on January 25, 2011, 11:51:00 AM
Well, for me Avast is way ... way better than Comodo and without the autosandboxing feature, and as Logos stated it won't use the same method of sandboxing, plus it adds an entirely new feature for an av suite the Safe Zone.
Well let's better wait, beta testing we're waitnig you  ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 25, 2011, 01:20:27 PM
PRAGUE, Czech Republic, January 24, 2011 – AVAST Software is including an array of new technologies in its soon-to-be released avast! 6.0, including virtualization technology for all of its free users.
http://public.avast.com/mkt/20110124_Avast_Autosandbox.pdf
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: NON on January 25, 2011, 01:41:49 PM
PRAGUE, Czech Republic, January 24, 2011 – AVAST Software is including an array of new technologies in its soon-to-be released avast! 6.0, including virtualization technology for all of its free users.
http://public.avast.com/mkt/20110124_Avast_Autosandbox.pdf
Interesting article, thanks. :)

I hope there is a way to extract files from the sandbox (seems unable on Free version)...

My current worry is about compatibility between avast! Sandbox and IME software.
Does avast! Sandbox allow sandboxed software to do these things?
*Interprocess communication
*Execute another application inside the same sandbox
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: pk on January 25, 2011, 01:44:38 PM
Does avast! Sandbox allow sandboxed software to do these things?
*Interprocess communication
*Execute another application inside the same sandbox

yes
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Sparxx on January 25, 2011, 01:46:46 PM
Well good news, goodbye sandboxie  ;D.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: NON on January 25, 2011, 01:56:17 PM
Does avast! Sandbox allow sandboxed software to do these things?
*Interprocess communication
*Execute another application inside the same sandbox

yes
That's great, IME should work properly ;D
Thank you!
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 25, 2011, 11:14:43 PM
Will There be something like the sandbox feature for avast free users in 6.0?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: rambo1940 on January 25, 2011, 11:26:58 PM
Try reading five posts up
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Asyn on January 25, 2011, 11:50:02 PM
Will There be something like the sandbox feature for avast free users in 6.0?

Read here: http://www.avast.com/pr-avast-6-0-will-bring-automatic-virtualization-technology-to-all-free-users
asyn
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 26, 2011, 03:52:17 AM
Will There be something like the sandbox feature for avast free users in 6.0?

Read here: http://www.avast.com/pr-avast-6-0-will-bring-automatic-virtualization-technology-to-all-free-users
asyn


Thank you!

I guess Avast loves its users  ;D
Avast User Forever! :)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Relu on January 26, 2011, 07:00:27 AM
Hello
Is it possible to improve the detection rate in version 6 ?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: SafeSurf on January 26, 2011, 07:25:16 AM
There will be lots of new improvements.  I'm sure Avast strives to always improve the detection rates as well.  Thank you.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: DavidR on January 26, 2011, 03:35:22 PM
Hello
Is it possible to improve the detection rate in version 6 ?

This isn't a specific target just for avast version 6 but an ongoing target for current versions and improvements in the virus definitions and engine updates. It is the new features in new versions that inadvertently bring additional protection and this should also see an improvement in detections.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: ImWarm on January 26, 2011, 06:38:39 PM
All this new stuff sounds great! Autosandbox and Safezone will will help a lot. :)

But I've been also wondering if the Antispam toolbar will be integrated into email clients other than Outlook? Sure, Outlook may be the most popular, but Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird, etc are also deserving. ;)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: drax098 on January 26, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
Well, it's been 2 years since I last posted here.
I was using version 4.8 back then, and i was really satisfied(except for the interface >:()

I'm really excited about the upcoming version which has the Autosandboxing feature. ;D
But WebRep.....isn't that the same with Web Of Trust? ???
Well, as long as it's light on the resources.




Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 26, 2011, 09:28:19 PM
Windows Live Mail uses a proprietary protocol if I'm not wrong. Impossible to integrate.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 26, 2011, 09:29:42 PM
Well, it's been 2 years since I last posted here.
Welcome back.

But WebRep.....isn't that the same with Web Of Trust? ???
It's not a security feature (neither WebRep nor WOT).
The communities are different though. The votes will be different.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: ImWarm on January 27, 2011, 12:01:12 AM
Windows Live Mail uses a proprietary protocol if I'm not wrong. Impossible to integrate.

Ah, I see. Thank you for pointing that out. ;)
Maybe some other email clients like Thunderbird? :P
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 27, 2011, 12:40:12 AM
Maybe some other email clients like Thunderbird? :P
For the antispam, it would be good.
Right now, the emails are scanning but not filtered.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: mmore1990 on January 27, 2011, 05:38:32 AM
Извените я незнаю английского. Пишу на русском. Скажите пожалуйста а интерфейс у аваста останется прежним или он поменяется? И ещё вопрос. Скажите пожалуйста примерные сроки выхода новой версии.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: CraigB on January 27, 2011, 07:36:13 AM
Извените я незнаю английского. Пишу на русском. Скажите пожалуйста а интерфейс у аваста останется прежним или он поменяется? И ещё вопрос. Скажите пожалуйста примерные сроки выхода новой версии.
Not sure when the new release is due but should be not to far away, i dont think the interface will change as this is the new interface anyway.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Jack 1000 on January 27, 2011, 07:47:01 AM
Will Avast 6 be supported for Windows XP?  Or Just Windows Vista and Windows 7?

Jack
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: CraigB on January 27, 2011, 07:50:12 AM
Will Avast 6 be supported for Windows XP?  Or Just Windows Vista and Windows 7?

Jack
It will still cover xp :)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Jack 1000 on January 27, 2011, 08:01:39 AM
Will Avast 6 be supported for Windows XP?  Or Just Windows Vista and Windows 7?

Jack
It will still cover xp :)

That's very considerate of the Avast team!  I recently cleaned and reformatted my XP machine and it works just fine.  In fact, VERY well, even better than when I got it new.  In this terrible economy, when people cannot afford to upgrade their computers, it is very commendable that Avast is still supporting the XP user!

Jack
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: YoKenny on January 27, 2011, 03:51:18 PM
That's very considerate of the Avast team!  I recently cleaned and reformatted my XP machine and it works just fine.  In fact, VERY well, even better than when I got it new.  In this terrible economy, when people cannot afford to upgrade their computers, it is very commendable that Avast is still supporting the XP user!
XP will be around for a long time and Microsoft will support those users as well.  8)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: silviucc on January 27, 2011, 04:03:40 PM
XP SP3 will receive security fixes until 2014.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: YoKenny on January 27, 2011, 04:07:43 PM
XP SP3 will receive security fixes until 2014.
The world is supposed to end December 21, 2012
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 27, 2011, 10:54:12 PM
XP SP3 will receive security fixes until 2014.
The world is supposed to end December 21, 2012

Lol YoKenny! People said the world would end in year 2000 but it didn't. I think the world will be around still in 2013 :P  NoBody really knows when the world will end.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: vecchio on January 27, 2011, 11:21:54 PM


3. Reset now button. Resetting program settings to their default values. This feature lets you reset the avast! settings to their default values. Please be careful as you will lose all your custom settings. This action cannot be undone.
Desired by tons of users! Thanks.




And how about the feature to manage the settingd? only reset it will not be good
I think it must have a feature to simply save the config as portable file and so run the config on each new instalation :-\
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Dch48 on January 27, 2011, 11:35:06 PM
Windows Live Mail uses a proprietary protocol if I'm not wrong. Impossible to integrate.
I don't know about that. I use the free version of Spam Fighter with Outlook Express. I did have Windows Live mail installed for a while and it also worked with that. WLM is very similar to OE.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: DavidR on January 28, 2011, 12:01:02 AM
It entirely depends on the source of the email, if it is from Hotmail or MAN and is web based (not pop3/smtp account) then it would use the Microsoft proprietary protocol which can't be used by avast. That is the whole issue/point of proprietary to stop others using it, a little like a lot of the AOHell stuff, doesn't integrate.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: gautam7 on January 28, 2011, 08:49:08 AM
Sorry if some one asked it before but i am concerned about how much resourse Avast 6.0 will consume after all those implimentation??? I must say avast 5.1 is really light on resourse i can barely tell its running ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: coper on January 28, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Any plan to release? This year? After summer or before? Autumn or winter?
Only by eye plan :)

why must be avast 6? 5.2, 5.3 etc not?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: RejZoR on January 28, 2011, 06:33:47 PM


3. Reset now button. Resetting program settings to their default values. This feature lets you reset the avast! settings to their default values. Please be careful as you will lose all your custom settings. This action cannot be undone.
Desired by tons of users! Thanks.




And how about the feature to manage the settingd? only reset it will not be good
I think it must have a feature to simply save the config as portable file and so run the config on each new instalation :-\

Actually the main purpose of such button is when you make extensive changes and then you don't know how to get settings back to default. Or for tech support when it comes to troubleshooting. Just click "Reset" or whatever it will be called and i can safely say that many problem will be solved this way in a matter of seconds.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 28, 2011, 06:34:53 PM
Any plan to release? This year? After summer or before? Autumn or winter?
Only by eye plan :)

why must be avast 6? 5.2, 5.3 etc not?
The first number relates to a basic program. Thus 5.0, 5.2, 5.3,etc. Would be basically the same with some tweaking. 6.0,6.2, 6.3 would indicate major changes to the software. The difference between v5.x and v6.x would be a vastly different product with v6.x having major improvements over v5.x.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: RejZoR on January 28, 2011, 06:52:51 PM
There is no fixed date yet but it will certainly be released in 2011. Some unofficial words are that it might even happen in the first half of 2011...
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: EagleGhost on January 28, 2011, 07:16:04 PM
XP SP3 will receive security fixes until 2014.
The world is supposed to end December 21, 2012


It's a hoax just like Y2K.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 28, 2011, 07:59:25 PM
why must be avast 6? 5.2, 5.3 etc not?
avast has a scheme to count the "code" variation translating it into "points".
The higher points, the higher version number.
They accumulated enough "points" to reach version 6 :)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: warlock on January 28, 2011, 09:33:40 PM
Can we expect any changes to the firewall? It's the only part that's under-performing right now (at least for a bit advanced users). Especially the application ruses UI is an usability nightmare, needs a complete redesign. And the log needs some options, fe. copy IP, who-is, goto rule etc.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: yaslaw on January 28, 2011, 11:20:57 PM
Warlock I completely disagree with you in the matter of firewall.
For me it's the most user-friendly designed firewall.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 29, 2011, 01:45:30 AM
why must be avast 6? 5.2, 5.3 etc not?
avast has a scheme to count the "code" variation translating it into "points".
The higher points, the higher version number.
They accumulated enough "points" to reach version 6 :)
Sorry Tech, but I can't resist. How many points does the winner get? lol!
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: warlock on January 29, 2011, 10:57:26 AM
Warlock I completely disagree with you in the matter of firewall.
For me it's the most user-friendly designed firewall.
Yes, it's so user-friendly, you have to hunt down ICMP code numbers just to create a rule (plus there is no way to specify particular ICMP type code). Why they didn't add a drop-down with ICMP type names instead is beyond me.
Also the grouping in application rules is annoying, app vendors often put stupid names in the executable descriptions, so the list is a mess, well, at least it's possible to organize it manually.
It further doesn't help that the app rules can not be locked down properly, as there is no way to allow unlimited access on localhost (used for inter-process communication in some apps) and limit access to/from internet at the same time.
The help file lacks info, there is no info about patterns supported when specifying port number, for example, is xxxx-yyyy interpreted as port range? What about lists of ports, should that be xxxx,yyyy,zzzz or xxxx;yyyy;zzzz or even xxxx yyyy zzzz? The dialog simply accepts everything and doesn't warn about unsupported format. And I can continue with many other problems like that.

PS: Another example of bad design - try to add two rules for the same app in the same group (I did that by accident), you end up with a dead ('visually empty' but 'not really empty' = undeletable)  group.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 29, 2011, 12:07:28 PM
Sorry Tech, but I can't resist. How many points does the winner get? lol!
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=64771.msg588683#msg588683
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 29, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
Also the grouping in application rules is annoying
+10

Another example of bad design - try to add two rules for the same app in the same group (I did that by accident), you end up with a dead ('visually empty' but 'not really empty' = undeletable)  group.
+1 Ability to delete a group (folder). But, better, if you can sort them by name/path. Also, do housekeeping and remove old (obsolete) entries.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 29, 2011, 12:37:37 PM
New sandbox feature:

Detect updaters and run them outside the sandbox
Quote
Updaters are tools that download&install updates for specific programs (such as browsers). Of course, it doesn't make much sense to perform such an update inside of the sandbox and leave the real browser (outside the sandbox) unupdated.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 29, 2011, 12:46:40 PM
News about the new SafeZone and its browser:

The SafeZone Browser is a special web browser that you can use to access websites that contain sensitive personal or financial data. It runs in the virtual environment of avast! SafeZone, without the risk of being monitored by spyware or key-loggers.
The browser itself is without additional components such as plug-ins, which are often used to distribute malware.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 29, 2011, 01:41:15 PM
The SafeZone Browser is a special web browser that you can use to access websites that contain sensitive personal or financial data. It runs in the virtual environment of avast! SafeZone, without the risk of being monitored by spyware or key-loggers.
The browser itself is without additional components such as plug-ins, which are often used to distribute malware.
By the way, is this "browser" a Chrome-based one? Firefox?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: pk on January 29, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
The SafeZone Browser is a special web browser that you can use to access websites that contain sensitive personal or financial data. It runs in the virtual environment of avast! SafeZone, without the risk of being monitored by spyware or key-loggers.
The browser itself is without additional components such as plug-ins, which are often used to distribute malware.
By the way, is this "browser" a Chrome-based one? Firefox?

it's based on Chromium webbrowser
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: YoKenny on January 29, 2011, 02:16:46 PM
The SafeZone Browser is a special web browser that you can use to access websites that contain sensitive personal or financial data. It runs in the virtual environment of avast! SafeZone, without the risk of being monitored by spyware or key-loggers.
The browser itself is without additional components such as plug-ins, which are often used to distribute malware.
By the way, is this "browser" a Chrome-based one? Firefox?

it's based on Chromium webbrowser

I like that.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 29, 2011, 03:05:52 PM
it's based on Chromium webbrowser
Thanks pk. Makes sense the use of an open code for that. Will it have a name?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Sparxx on January 29, 2011, 03:08:17 PM
it's based on Chromium webbrowser
Thanks pk. Makes sense the use of an open code for that. Will it have a name?

Avastium!   ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Onix on January 29, 2011, 04:42:04 PM
it's based on Chromium webbrowser
Why did you choose Chromium? Opera is good and fast browser also ;)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: DavidR on January 29, 2011, 04:45:29 PM
I think the answer to that is likely to be the one given/suggested by Tech.

it's based on Chromium webbrowser
Thanks pk. Makes sense the use of an open code for that.<snip>
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Onix on January 29, 2011, 04:57:49 PM
O, thanks, i've missed the message.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Hermite15 on January 29, 2011, 05:26:02 PM


it's based on Chromium webbrowser

...was a 100% sure about that ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Onix on January 29, 2011, 05:30:36 PM
Logos, i thought you are the Opera fan ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: yaslaw on January 29, 2011, 06:28:30 PM
it's based on Chromium webbrowser
Why did you choose Chromium? Opera is good and fast browser also ;)

Chromium is open-source project. Opera is not.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Gopher John on January 29, 2011, 08:03:07 PM
Firefox is also open source.  There's probably some specific feature of Chromium that Alwil developers are interested in.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Sparxx on January 29, 2011, 08:07:28 PM
Firefox is also open source.  There's probably some specific feature of Chromium that Alwil developers are interested in.

I'd say it's more dev.(s) related  :)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Nesivos on January 29, 2011, 08:37:02 PM
News about the new SafeZone and its browser:

The SafeZone Browser is a special web browser that you can use to access websites that contain sensitive personal or financial data. It runs in the virtual environment of avast! SafeZone, without the risk of being monitored by spyware or key-loggers.
The browser itself is without additional components such as plug-ins, which are often used to distribute malware.

If you use Firefox there are a number of addons that do the same thing.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: yaslaw on January 29, 2011, 09:18:30 PM
Chrome has in-build sandbox that Firefox lacks of.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Gopher John on January 29, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
I have several extensions in Firefox that improves privacy and security.  I also use different Firefox profiles for different tasks.

I'll likely stick with it, but will give the SafeZone browser a test drive when it becomes available.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Sparxx on January 29, 2011, 09:22:49 PM
Chrome has in-build sandbox that Firefox lacks of.

It's not a sandbox for security meanings, it's more stability wise.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 29, 2011, 09:28:20 PM
Chrome sandbox is not a sandbox as we're thinking about. It's just that everything runs into a process, not virtualized.
SafeZone is a virtual desktop with a browser. It's not an addon that could be easily bypassed or misused.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Nesivos on January 29, 2011, 09:57:47 PM
Chrome has in-build sandbox that Firefox lacks of.

Chrome is a Google product.

Nuff said :D

Just my opinion 8)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: danny96 on January 29, 2011, 10:08:16 PM
Chrome has in-build sandbox that Firefox lacks of.

Chrome is a Google product.

Nuff said :D

Just my opinion 8)

chrome is my favourite ;)
is fast and safe...
i can recommend it!
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: igor on January 29, 2011, 10:28:04 PM
Firefox is also open source.  There's probably some specific feature of Chromium that Alwil developers are interested in.

I'd say the main thing here is the license under which the source code is distributed.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Nesivos on January 29, 2011, 11:17:24 PM
Chrome has in-build sandbox that Firefox lacks of.

Chrome is a Google product.

Nuff said :D

Just my opinion 8)

chrome is my favourite ;)
is fast and safe...
i can recommend it!

I am glad that you are happy with it.

Personally I use as few Google products as I can, with their email in very limited usage being the only exception.  I just don't like the company and their privacy invasion policies. :)
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Gopher John on January 29, 2011, 11:19:10 PM
Chromium is under the BSD license.

Firefox is under the Mozilla Public License ("MPL") which references the GNU Project's LGPL or GPL.

For both, all of the new code and most of the legacy code is open source and can be freely distributed and used.  Both have some parts contained in their releases that may not be incorporated into commercial programs, unless I misread when I looked at the licenses.  I'll admit that I don't understand the full implications of the licenses, not being a Philadephia lawyer. ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: pk on January 29, 2011, 11:45:11 PM
SafeZone cannot reuse already installed user's webbrowser and modify it - it'd be most elegant (user can continue using his web browser s/he's used to it), but it's not safe. Finally, we could choose only between FF or Chromium engine. I'm a FF guy, I love FF and use it. Opera isn't also bad at all - my gf uses it so do I (unfortunately it's not open-source). Chromium is huge project, its source code is written very well - something what's not seen so often. We modified Chromium web browser, removed some problematic parts (e.g. autoloading of some plugins, ...) and we plan to implement other security plugins after v6 release when we get more time - and thus, Chromium was the evident choice.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: igor on January 29, 2011, 11:52:26 PM
MPL requires to release the source code of the modified parts.
Don't know how many modifications PK has done... but even if there wasn't anything we'd like to keep for ourselves there, it would certainly be an additional hassle.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: 12-es_csaj on January 29, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
SafeZone cannot reuse already installed user's webbrowser and modify it - it'd be most elegant (user can continue using his web browser s/he's used to it), but it's not safe. Finally, we could choose only between FF or Chromium engine. I'm a FF guy, I love FF and use it. Opera isn't also bad at all - my gf uses it so do I (unfortunately it's not open-source). Chromium is huge project, its source code is written very well - something what's not seen so often. We modified Chromium web browser, removed some problematic parts (e.g. autoloading of some plugins, ...) and we plan to implement other security plugins after v6 release when we get more time - and thus, Chromium was the evident choice.


I don't understand this SafeZone.
Browser in sandbox - it is safe, too. Or Not?
What's the difference between browser running sandboxed or safezone??


I am very happy because I will have auto-sandbox for free. I can't wait for v6.0.  :)
I know that it will arrive when it is ready. But... about when? May, June?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: igor on January 29, 2011, 11:58:35 PM
Imagine SafeZone as an "inverse sandbox" ;)

You run a browser inside of the sandbox - so that if the browser gets infected, the infection stays contained inside of the sandbox, it doesn't affect the rest of your operating system.
You run a browser inside of the SafeZone - so that even if your system already is somehow compromised (there's a keylogger running on your OS, and avast! possibly doesn't know about it), the browser inside of the SafeZone is still safe.
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Silk0 on January 30, 2011, 12:31:42 AM
First beta of version 6.0 was released..!
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=70435.0 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=70435.0)
(little note: I'm in love with the new features of free version)
Testers, prepare yourselves..  ;D
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Lisandro on January 30, 2011, 01:50:27 AM
I know that it will arrive when it is ready. But... about when? May, June?
Today! Unbelievable uh?
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Para-Noid on January 30, 2011, 02:12:17 AM
Wow...that was fast! It seems as if we just got 5.1.889...uh... we did. Imagine that.
They did say "sooner not later".
Title: Re: News about avast 6... well, not so new... Some of them could be fantastic!
Post by: Hopper15 on January 30, 2011, 02:27:13 AM
Avast 6? I'm just getting comfortable with Avast 5.1