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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Dieselman on March 24, 2011, 04:53:48 AM
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Well my NIS 2011 subscription ends in 29 days. So I am trying out Avast 6.0 with Windows 7 firewall for now. Norton has a bootable recovery and so does Kaspersky. Does Avast offer anything like that so I make a bootable usb stick? Thanks.
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You may want to check out this thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=38684.0 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=38684.0). Let us know if you have any additional questions. Thank you.
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Nope doesn't help cause he development is dead. No new updates in 3 years. :o
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Nope doesn't help cause he development is dead. No new updates in 3 years. :o
Replaced by Rescue CD: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=72954.0
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Not being a jerk but did you actually take the time to read that thread? ITS NOT FOR HOME USERS and not the same. Avira,Kaspersky and Norton all offer a bootable disk/usb device. I believe AVG also does. Why cant Avast make a bootable iso we can all download and mount? Most malware now a days cripples your pc so you have choice but to boot into Linux. I use Kaspersky's Rescue CD when I am at customers houses.
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Not being a jerk but did you actually take the time to read that thread? ITS NOT FOR HOME USERS and not the same.
Yeah, it's not the same, it's a replacement in testing stage, at the moment only available to resellers... Now kindly stop shouting at me and meanwhile feel free to use whatever other third-party solution you like. Ktnxbye.
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avast offers boot time scanning for free.
avast Rescue CD is on development and, as far I know, it will cost ~10 dollars.
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Of course I know Avast has boot scanning. But obviously you guys have never seen an unbootable pc. I come across computers that are so heavily infected you cannot even log in and if you do its takes 20 minutes to get to your desktop.
Off topic...........Avast 6.0 is a very good product.
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Dieselman, right now you need to get 3rd party solutions.
Shortly, there will be avast one (not free).
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As I can tell you clearly dont take time to read. Thanks anyways.
"I use Kaspersky's Rescue CD when I am at customers houses"
Being to insert a usb stick and boot off of it is an incredible way to remove malware.
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Dieselman -
Perhaps you might re-consider your approach to scanning the "crippled" drive...there are options.
I always scan my customer's drive with the latest set of Avast definitions...even if that drive will not boot normally.
Agreed the the disk/image is way overdue ...but the "hassle" in dealing with other AV solutions is part of what motivates me to push Avast (when appropriate).
Besides...once the customer is on Avast...you probably won't need such a disk again...unless they ignore Avast's warnings.
or you can acquire the bartCD
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OMG...................All hope is lost. NOTHING IS 100% effective. Avast will fail. Norton will fail and Kaspersky will fail. I repair infected pc's for a living. I have no control of what is previously installed. Especially on a new customer. Malware changes everyday and most rogues disable everything INCLUDING your anti virus. Having a bootable back up is a must now a days. I can insert my Kaspersky Recovery Disk and cure any infected pc without dealing with Windows. I would like to see Avast do this now that I am using there product and promoting it.
So what if a customer just paid $40 to renew there Norton360? Tell them to dump it and go with Avast Free? Not. What about the person who is using Avast Free 6 and cannot boot up there pc due to malware?
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You can use SARDU.
http://www.sarducd.it/ (http://www.sarducd.it/)
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you keep saying the same thing...and as if we all don't KNOW & do this "for a living"...lol
don't rely on just one brand of tools...their are just two or three apps that I keep handy at all time and only one of them is avast.
As for the Norton customer...if use other tools to test if Norton is doing the Job for them...if I prove that the coverage is NOT working for them...then yes, I do "suggest" a change...it happens quite often. But if the Norton is working for them and does not cause other "issues" with thier PC...then I leave it alone.
As for the Avast Free customer that cannot boot? That is where YOU need to think "outside" the box.
If your point is that you want to use nothing but Avast tools...then your customers will suffer because you have blinders on.
Do my Avast customers get infected? Occasionally...because they neglect my advice or the warnings of the application to start with.
You are a mechanic of sorts...would you take you vehicle to mechanic if you knew he/she had just one wrench in their toolbox to try and fix all cars?
...just sayin
but back to topic...bootable is CD coming. please be patient.
BTW...I do agree that it should be free, unless they include a way to update definitions from a thumb-drive (like another brand already does). Kaspersky, to my knowledge does not offer this function...although I might be wrong.
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No I am not a mechanic. I was prior hence the name and YES Kaspersky as well as Avira offer bootable recovery from a usb drive. Norton's detection rate is very good. Sometimes better then Avast's but then again nothing is perfect. Just cause Norton let something past does not mean you uninstall it. ::) Heck even Emsisoft offers a FREE usb kit. Hopefully soon Avast will make a bootable usb version.
http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/eek/
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Here you go: http://www.washpc.net/~washpcco/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=54 (http://www.washpc.net/~washpcco/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=54).
Be advised http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=72954.msg616902#msg616902 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=72954.msg616902#msg616902).
You can also contact Avast for any questions http://www.avast.com/contact-form.php?loadStyles (http://www.avast.com/contact-form.php?loadStyles) and use the drop down menu for Sales Inquiries. Thank you.
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Thats no help. No 64 bit support. ::)
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Thats no help. No 64 bit support. ::)
Christ. It is a bootable CD. You do not need 64bit support. ::)
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Missing the point plus you have to pay for it and its not usb compatible.
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Missing the point plus you have to pay for it and its not usb compatible.
Which point am I missing? It will work perfectly fine on x86 and x64. And yeah, you can make it USB compatible pretty easily, exactly the same way as any bootable ISO.
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Examples of what Avast needs to do.
http://www.avira.com/en/support-download-avira-antivir-rescue-system
http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/rescuedisk
http://security.symantec.com/nbrt/nbrt.asp?lcid=1033
http://www.freedrweb.com/livecd/?lng=en
http://www.avg.com/ww-en/avg-rescue-cd
All these company's offer this for free.
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So you want it for free. Well, it's Avast's business decision to not provide it for free. Live with it. If you "repair infected pc's for a living" then $10 is a very reasonable price. You don't do your job free either, after all.
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LOL................Did I say just for myself? No. Bootable cd's are for everyone.
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This debate goes nowhere. As with any other software: if you don't want to pay for the product, use the free alternatives.
P.S. Pretty likely some of the products you listed are free for personal, non-commercial use only. :P
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If all those companies mentioned can do it then so can Avast. Please stop being such an Avast Fanboy. Avast is a great av but they need to look into this.
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I am not an Avast fanboy. Anyway, they are already providing a great product for free, if you need a bootable CD (which most people don't) then - as already said - nothing stops you from using the free alternatives if you don't want to pay. Stop blaming them they want to earn some money. ::)
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If all those companies mentioned can do it then so can Avast. Please stop being such an Avast Fanboy. Avast is a great av but they need to look into this.
They can. But, should they do it? They've chosen to release a paid version.
By the way, there are a lot of other tools in the avast Rescue CD (registry cleaner, file cleaner, etc.) that made they chose this way.
You have 3rd party options. We're not fanboys. Go for them :)
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I hope that I am right, but as I remember Ondrej told us at the Evangelist meeting in Prague that the Avast! rescue CD is Windows 7 based, so they have to pay a licence fee to Microsoft. That's why it is not for free.
Greetz, Red.
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Yeah, it's Microsoft based. It won't be released for free.
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And thats my exact point. I gave a list of companies which offer this feature for free. Why cant Avast? Heck even AVG Free offers AVG Rescue. Even people who dont have Kaspersky can use the Kaspersky Rescue CD. The Norton Bootable Recovery needs a valid license but if you know someone you can just use there's.
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Did you read my explanation ???
Greetz, Red.
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Did you read my explanation ???
No, why? He is here to moan that he wants a free recovery CD for his business, not to listen to explanations. :P
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And thats my exact point. I gave a list of companies which offer this feature for free. Why cant Avast?
Because none of them are Microsoft (Windows) based.
All of them are Linux based.
None of them offers a boot time scanning :)
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And where did I say for my business? I did not. Get a clue people. Wow. Avast a great av but the forums support is garbage. No matter you flip the coin Avast needs to make a bootable usb version. Get with the times.
Non of you have any clue. Here is the senario. I install Avast on a customer's pc and show them how it works. I them create a bootable usb recovery tool from them so they can scan there pc with Avast if an emergency happens. I dont need this for myself. Thats why I use Kapersky Recovery CD. I have more then enough tools in my arsenal.
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Avast a great av but the forums support is garbage.
No, they're not. Just that your personal opinion is not prevailing here.
Seems you're trolling.
Non of you have any clue. Here is the senario. I install Avast on a customer's pc and show them how it works. I them create a bootable usb recovery tool from them so they can scan there pc with Avast if an emergency happens. I dont need this for myself. Thats why I use Kapersky Recovery CD. I have more then enough tools in my arsenal.
It's a good thing. We asked avast team a lot of times. But they could never fulfill our wishes and we can understand that.
Better is teaching a recovery policy (backups, etc.) for your users :)
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And where did I say for my business?
In previous posts and even it this one:
Here is the senario. I install Avast on a customer's pc and show them how it works. I them create a bootable usb recovery tool from them so they can scan there pc with Avast if an emergency happens. I dont need this for myself. Thats why I use Kapersky Recovery CD. I have more then enough tools in my arsenal.
Yeah, so buy it for them and sell it to them. Heck, you can even become a reseller for Avast! :P Just quit moaning you want it for free. It uses Windows PE, will not happen.
Seems you're trolling.
Bingo. ;)
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Dude....No where near trolling. No need to. I do tell people to use a System Image. Buying an external drive and keeping an image backup is the best insurance. But what about those who cannot afford to buy one? Think people. Also what if there image is out dated? Then all data will be lost which has not been backed up after the first initial backup. Wow................Keep the excuses coming people. My suggestion is advice to thw Avast tea. Thats all. No reasson to shot it down.
Man sure Avast doesnt pay you people to stick up for them? 5 other top companies do it. No reason Avast cannot.
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Moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan no i will NOT listen moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan gimme it for freeeeee moan moan moan for freeeee moan moan.
The RescueCD uses Windows PE. Avast needs to pay licensing fees to MS for that. Finally got it?!
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So Avast is cheap? Thats what your saying? Symantec,Kaspersky,Avira,AVG and Dr.Web all have more money then Avast? Come on now.
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So Avast is cheap? Thats what your saying? Symantec,Kaspersky,Avira,AVG and Dr.Web all have more money then Avast? Come on now.
No, Mr. Troll. They use Linux. Seeing your "expertise" on this matter, I am really happy I am not one of the unforunate customers of yours.
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So what your saying again is that Avast is to cheap to make a bootable usb version and or a cd version of Avast using Linux? ::)
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OK, I'd say that's enough.
Right now, avast! CD is what it is, call it a business decision if you wish.
Whether there will be a different version or platform, only time will show... but I really don't think it's a priority at the moment.
Technically, making a USB version isn't that hard - I moved my BART CD (3.0) onto a USB stick and it works. [OK, had to make a small fix in the code first, but I believe that's included in the last 3.0 beta]. As for Linux... I guess that would be an option too, but as I said, I believe there are different priorities now (such as releasing v6 of the ordinary Linux/Mac avast!).