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Title: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: vecchio on March 24, 2011, 06:47:51 PM
I cannot understand why kaspersky have higher reputation comparing to avast
I used avast free sence 41418 and nerver never got a virus infection which avast was unable to clean
So, before ais , i bought kpure
As i have some kpure days license remaining, i have make a test
I download a INFECTED file.So what? no kpure reaction and a imediate avast reaction
So, just as curiosity, why kaspersky have higher reputation than us?
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Dieselman on March 24, 2011, 07:00:28 PM
NO antivirsu is perfect. I can find malware that KAV misses and Avast finds. I can also find malware that KAV misses and Norton finds. Then I can find malware that Norton misses and Avast finds. Your point is?
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: vecchio on March 24, 2011, 07:07:10 PM
My point is : in brazilian sites avat reputation is ridiculous, they inform "avast catches nothing"and kaspersky catches everything
I think this should be a paid false info in order to make many people buy kaspersky
I cannot believe many people can be so inoccent
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: bri on March 24, 2011, 07:32:59 PM
they buy it because they believe it(not made to buy it),like the saying goes dont believe everything you hear or in this case read.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Gargamel360 on March 24, 2011, 07:35:30 PM
Paid false info is part of business.  An ugly, nasty part of it, but a reality all the same.  

At the end of the day, the better product will speak for itself through actions, not words.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Charyb-0 on March 24, 2011, 07:36:11 PM
AV Comparatives test for false positives showed Kaspersky 46 false positives. Avast had 9 false positives. So yes, they detect more.  :)
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: vecchio on March 24, 2011, 07:37:19 PM
they buy it because they believe it(not made to buy it),like the saying goes dont believe everything you hear or in this case read.
Just to make it clear, i am saying i am sure avast is beter than kasp
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: dansorin on March 24, 2011, 07:45:10 PM
see the whole product dynamic test on av-comparatives. you will see which one has a higher detection rate.
on the other hand, just one malware is enough to ruin your day.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on March 24, 2011, 08:31:08 PM
At the end of the day, the better product will speak for itself through actions, not words.

<subtle irony>
Is that the reason VHS won against BetaMax, Windows 3.0 against OS/2, IE 4 against NetScape Navigator?  ;D
</subtle irony>
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Gargamel360 on March 24, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
At the end of the day, the better product will speak for itself through actions, not words.
<subtle irony>
Is that the reason VHS won against BetaMax, Windows 3.0 against OS/2, IE 4 against NetScape Navigator?  ;D
</subtle irony>
Ok maybe that was a little too altruistic of me, point taken ;)

Still, I don't think that is how this (Avast vs. Kasper) would play out.  I see no end to either company in the near future, really.  Plenty of room for both.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on March 24, 2011, 08:51:20 PM
Still, I don't think that is how this (Avast vs. Kasper) would play out.  I see no end to either company in the near future, really.  Plenty of room for both.

Full Ack.
:-)
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Sparxx on March 24, 2011, 10:57:13 PM
see the whole product dynamic test on av-comparatives. you will see which one has a higher detection rate.
on the other hand, just one malware is enough to ruin your day.

The naked truth  ;D
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: hillardl on March 25, 2011, 12:11:01 AM
many people never know of Avast because you cannot find it in retail.
some people think Norton is the best because it is everywhere...but the AV is only a small part of the Norton world.

I would rather it be "my little secret" than incur the costs of a boxed product.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Lisandro on March 25, 2011, 01:54:36 AM
NO antivirsu is perfect. I can find malware that KAV misses and Avast finds. I can also find malware that KAV misses and Norton finds. Then I can find malware that Norton misses and Avast finds. Your point is?
+1

Vecchio, we can't believe in paid reviews, paid reputation scores...
Take into account that avast is on #1 in Brazil, i.e., the market share is in favor of avast.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: vecchio on March 25, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
NO antivirsu is perfect. I can find malware that KAV misses and Avast finds. I can also find malware that KAV misses and Norton finds. Then I can find malware that Norton misses and Avast finds. Your point is?
+1

Vecchio, we can't believe in paid reviews, paid reputation scores...
Take into account that avast is on #1 in Brazil, i.e., the market share is in favor of avast.
Many people hire in brazil always saying avast is crap and the resouece hog kaspersky is alway good
I disagree tis sentence
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Lisandro on March 25, 2011, 02:46:50 PM
Many people hire in brazil always saying avast is crap and the resouece hog kaspersky is alway good
I disagree tis sentence
Me too... What can we do? Say the truth as much as we can :)
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: vecchio on March 25, 2011, 04:30:45 PM
Many people hire in brazil always saying avast is crap and the resouece hog kaspersky is alway good
I disagree tis sentence
Me too... What can we do? Say the truth as much as we can :)
I agree with you this time
Sorry so many typos in the last sentence, i am trying to write as fasted i can
Obrigado meu amigo
Grande entrevista no blog
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: LunarWolf on March 25, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
Take it from someone who have used both, both are excellent products. Each have its pro and cons. Herer is what I think Kaspersky excel;

a) Their heuristics. (Maybe your pure miss stuff because you didn't set heuristics to high. For any product I used, I always set the heuristics to high)
b) Their clean ability (not to say avast is bad, but I haven't tried the cleaning of avast. I have installed KIS on a heavily infected computer, it was able to install, update and clean without problem)
c)Kaspersky cloud is better than avast at the moment but this is the first time avast have cloud, so wait for it to improve. ;D
d) Kaspersky have excellent self defense (based off malware research group. For two years in a row,(I think), it have receive the platinum award-the highest award)

Why I used avast?
1. Tried and tested. Was bought over by the detection rate. Tested some viruses bought back from school and saw Kaspersky and avast both detect the same thing.
2. avast have less bugs. (main reason why I switch)
3. Light on resources
4. It is free and very good
5. Fast (4.8 scan speed was like a snail. Now it is like a Ferrari ;D)
6. I like what avast is doing. (their ideas, their generosity)

I would like to used the paid avast if I can see a box avast for sale in stores in my country. All I see are Kaspersky, Norton, Trendmicro, Avira. Yet to see a box version for sale.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Ashish Singh on March 25, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
I have installed Kaspersky in infected pc. It just delete important system files and makes the system handicapped. It gives only one option to user after a restart do a clean install of windows. I think this is the way it clean virus in a pre-infected pc, if it clean then it takes ages to clean a single file and several restart. I am talking about both Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 and Kaspersky Internet Security 2012(In which they say they have improved alot)  ;D ;D
But if its installed on a clean pc then it never allow a single virus to enter.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: vecchio on March 25, 2011, 07:56:41 PM
Take it from someone who have used both, both are excellent products. Each have its pro and cons. Herer is what I think Kaspersky excel;

a) Their heuristics. (Maybe your pure miss stuff because you didn't set heuristics to high. For any product I used, I always set the heuristics to high)
b) Their clean ability (not to say avast is bad, but I haven't tried the cleaning of avast. I have installed KIS on a heavily infected computer, it was able to install, update and clean without problem)
c)Kaspersky cloud is better than avast at the moment but this is the first time avast have cloud, so wait for it to improve. ;D
d) Kaspersky have excellent self defense (based off malware research group. For two years in a row,(I think), it have receive the platinum award-the highest award)

Why I used avast?
1. Tried and tested. Was bought over by the detection rate. Tested some viruses bought back from school and saw Kaspersky and avast both detect the same thing.
2. avast have less bugs. (main reason why I switch)
3. Light on resources
4. It is free and very good
5. Fast (4.8 scan speed was like a snail. Now it is like a Ferrari ;D)
6. I like what avast is doing. (their ideas, their generosity)

I would like to used the paid avast if I can see a box avast for sale in stores in my country. All I see are Kaspersky, Norton, Trendmicro, Avira. Yet to see a box version for sale.
I will repeat after (again have my post deleted without any reason
Kaapersky is a resource hog
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: DavidR on March 25, 2011, 08:50:26 PM
If I remember rightly, probably because your post just contained a direct full quote of LunarWolf post and no comments or reason why you would quote in full.

Even so there really is no need to quote in full, just quote any relevant part not the full post that you are going to comment on.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Lisandro on March 25, 2011, 10:23:51 PM
LunarWolf, thanks for sharing. Good thoughts about Kaspersky.
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: pcclean3453 on March 26, 2011, 12:52:46 PM
Is Avast! newer or is it older than kapersky?
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: doktornotor on March 26, 2011, 12:56:31 PM
Is Avast! newer or is it older than kapersky?

Kaspersky - founded in 1997
Avast Software - incorporated in 1991 (http://www.avast.com/about#tab4)
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: Lisandro on March 26, 2011, 12:57:17 PM
avast: 1988
Kaspersky: 1997
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: danny96 on March 26, 2011, 01:09:15 PM
NO antivirsu is perfect. I can find malware that KAV misses and Avast finds. I can also find malware that KAV misses and Norton finds. Then I can find malware that Norton misses and Avast finds. Your point is?
Or we can also find malware that Avast! misses and KAV + Norton finds It  ;)
Title: Re: why have kaspersky higher reputation than avast?(ridiculous)
Post by: SpeedyPC on March 26, 2011, 01:20:40 PM
The naked truth  ;D


Really now where did I put my camera to catch the naked truth  ;D