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Title: False positive list
Post by: Skip H on March 25, 2011, 03:22:43 PM
Is there a list of recent false positives?
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: polonus on March 25, 2011, 03:39:54 PM
Hi Skip H,

Not that I know of, but you can search this forum for FP or False Positives. Normally they are rather short lived issues, they seldom outlive the next virus definition update, so notifying FP's is far more important than searching lists,

polonus
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: DavidR on March 25, 2011, 05:26:59 PM
Is there a list of recent false positives?

Aside from what Polonus said - Why would you need to ask such a question ?
If you have a detection that you consider might be a false positive, then what is it ?
e.g. malware name, file name, location (C:\windows\system32\infected-file-name.xxx) and why you think it is a false positive.

Then we can help you confirm/deny the detection and what actions to take, etc.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: polonus on March 25, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
Yes, I fully agree here with DavidR, that it is important to know why you asked this question. Be more specific to reveal your reasons for asking this. With such a kind of  cryptic question, you will only get likewise answers,

polonus
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 07:05:11 PM
I got what I think is a false positive.
hxxp://www.google-analytics.com/ga.js|>{gzip}

infection HTML:Iframe-INF
It even pops up for the avast forum.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 07:07:14 PM
Kindly update your virus defs.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 07:09:29 PM
My virus data is up to date :(
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 07:11:05 PM
My virus data is up to date :(

What is the version of definitions you have?
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 07:12:17 PM
110325-0
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
Cannot reproduce your problem at all.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: Pondus on March 25, 2011, 07:16:54 PM
ga.js
http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/report.html?id=716d388a41888b9f461d2afa9f40a87b7aa6c7409e7ccdcf233f5be1135aef97-1301076408
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
I have avast 6.
Could there be a problem on my end?
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: spg SCOTT on March 25, 2011, 07:19:52 PM
Can you show us a screenshot, we are all using avast 6 and can't see the problem you are having...
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 07:29:03 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ns84dl.png
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 07:30:57 PM
Eh... What does

Code: [Select]
nslookup www.google-analytics.com
produce on your box? (Run that in command prompt.)
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 07:37:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5pSwa.png
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 07:40:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5pSwa.png

I meant

Code: [Select]
nslookup www.google-analytics.com
Also, please use the additional options - attach feature here for screenshots.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 07:43:56 PM
Code: [Select]
85.10.195.196 - Geo Information
IP Address 85.10.195.196
Host static.85-10-195-196.clients.your-server.de
Location DE, Germany
City Nürnberg, 02 -
Organization Hetzner Online AG
ISP Hetzner Online AG
AS Number AS24940 Hetzner Online AG RZ

You clearly are infected by something and your DNS is hijacked.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 07:45:04 PM
Here
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 07:51:29 PM
Yeah, as said - your DNS is not sane. Set it to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 (Google public DNS) so that you stop this temporarily and try the nslookup again. Anyway, we will need MBAM and OTS logs (see the stickies here).

Code: [Select]
IP Address 173.193.227.124
Host 173.193.227.124-static.reverse.softlayer.com
Location US, United States
City Dallas, TX 75207
Organization Hosting Services
ISP SoftLayer Technologies
AS Number AS36351 SoftLayer Technologies Inc.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
The DNS change fixed the alert problem, but What does OTS mean?
I have malwarebytes running, as well as avast.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 08:17:59 PM
Abuse of service reported to SoftLayer Technologies and Hetzner Online AG.

The DNS change fixed the alert problem, but What does OTS mean?
I have malwarebytes running, as well as avast.

Please read the sticky posts on this forum.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: CharleyO on March 25, 2011, 09:42:48 PM
***

Try looking here ... http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53253.msg451454#msg451454 ...  follow the instructions in the first post by Essexboy, and then post the logs in this thread that you started.

[BTW, OTS = Old Timer Scan]


***
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 25, 2011, 11:14:36 PM
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1kexwLx5dqITog5LIfqQd3HyQZa_DGY6rla1fer9gxXk
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1-bhrkKejtsnNPAKp1mSgPYLp3syZU8nH48ByCBp5F5U
The files were too big to upload
Edit: I made the OTS file a little more readable, before word somehow screwed up the formatting.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 25, 2011, 11:42:17 PM
Edit: I made the OTS file a little more readable, before word somehow screwed up the formatting.

Word?  :o ??? Use notepad (TXT) for similar things.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 26, 2011, 05:20:27 AM
I was using word to replace all the personally identifying stuff.
Not paranoid, just that it makes no difference whether you know that info or not.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 26, 2011, 08:25:58 AM
I was using word to replace all the personally identifying stuff.

Ctrl+H in Notepad.  :P
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: kubecj on March 26, 2011, 12:54:42 PM
I've noticed sudden growth of this in our logs.

We don't know if this is mitm/mitb attack (BHO/local proxy) or DNS hijack (modified hosts file?). Is only one browser doing this?

The logs we have say that it's iframe pointing to whereismypeoplexy.com, which we block from 110314
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 26, 2011, 01:01:09 PM
I've noticed sudden growth of this in our logs.

Is this mitm/mitb (BHO/local proxy) ...  Is only one browser doing this?

Hello, I am afraid you are right. His OTS log shows the malicious DNS server is configured by DHCP. Then again, it might be the DHCP server being compromised as well. And no, not one browser, I asked him to do a nslookup, so... the whole machine has DNS hijacked pointing to the malicious DNS server hosted at SoftLayer Technologies

I have reported this to whois contacts for both hosters, got only an automated ticket answer from the Germans, nothing from US. If you officially contact them, it might speed thing up.

If you PM me your email, I will forward the mail I sent them.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: kubecj on March 26, 2011, 01:09:56 PM
I've probably overlooked something? The DNS set by DHCP is imo quite normal in DSL and such environments - but I still don't know how do you know that the google's address he recevied is bad? Google definitely has tons of servers with multiple ips.

For example from my home it's
Name:    google.com
Addresses:  74.125.87.99, 74.125.87.104

F:\x4>nslookup 74.125.87.99

Name:    hb-in-f99.1e100.net
Address:  74.125.87.99
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 26, 2011, 01:12:47 PM
For example from my home it's
Name:    google.com
Addresses:  74.125.87.99, 74.125.87.104

F:\x4>nslookup 74.125.87.99

Name:    hb-in-f99.1e100.net
Address:  74.125.87.99

Yeah, and guess what - owned by Google. Not some third-party ISP/hoster.

Quote
# gwhois 74.125.87.99
Process query: '74.125.87.99'
Query recognized as IPv4.
Querying whois.arin.net:43 with whois.

#
# The following results may also be obtained via:
# http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=74.125.87.99?showDetails=true&showARIN=false
#

NetRange:       74.125.0.0 - 74.125.255.255
CIDR:           74.125.0.0/16
OriginAS:
NetName:        GOOGLE
NetHandle:      NET-74-125-0-0-1
Parent:         NET-74-0-0-0-0
NetType:        Direct Allocation
RegDate:        2007-03-13
Updated:        2007-05-22
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-74-125-0-0-1


OrgName:        Google Inc.
OrgId:          GOGL
Address:        1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
City:           Mountain View
StateProv:      CA
PostalCode:     94043
Country:        US
RegDate:        2000-03-30
Updated:        2009-08-07
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/GOGL

OrgTechHandle: ZG39-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Google Inc
OrgTechPhone:  +1-650-253-0000
OrgTechEmail:  arin-contact@google.com
OrgTechRef:    http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZG39-ARIN

If you replace the www.google-analytics.com part of the URL with the IP returned by the malicious DNS server, you will get happily served with infected ga.js; are you suggesting that Google got infected?  :P

Quote
# nslookup www.google-analytics.com 173.193.227.124
Server:         173.193.227.124
Address:        173.193.227.124#53

Name:   www.google-analytics.com
Address: 85.10.195.196
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: essexboy on March 26, 2011, 01:20:24 PM
Quote
Edit: I made the OTS file a little more readable, before word somehow screwed up the formatting.
Unfortunately I use a special parsing tool which reads the first blank line as end of report, so I could spend 20 minutes or so removing all the blank lines or I could ask you to repost it as a text file attachment
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: essexboy on March 26, 2011, 01:24:12 PM
Also now I have read the entire thread - the solution is simple, add the following to your host file

Quote
# [Google Inc]
127.0.0.1 www.google-analytics.com

Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: kubecj on March 26, 2011, 01:24:56 PM
Quote
If you replace the www.google-analytics.com part of the URL with the IP returned by the malicious DNS server, you will get happily served with infected ga.js; are you suggesting that Google got infected?  :P

Quote
nslookup www.google-analytics.com 173.193.227.124
Server:  173.193.227.124-static.reverse.softlayer.com
Address:  173.193.227.124

Sry, not for me, getting only 401's? I'd like to see that 'infected' ga.js
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 26, 2011, 01:27:24 PM
Sry, not for me, getting only 401's?

Well, then the Germans might have shut down the webserver already, however, as you can see, the malicious DNS is still running there in US.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: kubecj on March 26, 2011, 01:42:04 PM
Heh, lookin at wrong line. I've got ga.js from the german server now.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: doktornotor on March 26, 2011, 01:43:23 PM
Also now I have read the entire thread - the solution is simple, add the following to your host file

Not really a solution, just a temporary workaround. And might as well get ignored since some malware alters the HOSTS file location in registry (yet, it is configurable).

Heh, lookin at wrong line. I've got ga.js from the german server now.

Heh, OK.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: kubecj on March 26, 2011, 04:51:38 PM
To original poster: what country are you from? This faked GA is not working for me and our stats only show couple of countries...
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: igor on March 26, 2011, 04:59:13 PM
Wisconsin?
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: atomic1fire on March 27, 2011, 10:22:15 PM
Yeah, I'm from Wisconsin.
The problem is gone now, but I don't know how it got there in the first place.
The whereismypeoplexy.com thing has popped up before,
I blocked a few things in the host file, and avast seems to have taken care of some of the redirect stuff, but I have no idea where the problem is.
Title: Re: False positive list
Post by: beans07 on April 04, 2011, 04:59:24 AM
I have this exact problem on my pc. How did you get rid of it?

My avast and AM does not pick it up yet every website I visit has this same popup you had on your screenshot.