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Title: A new skin
Post by: Vlk on September 23, 2004, 06:20:24 PM
After a while, our Skin section (http://www.avast.com/eng/download/skins/index.html) has been updated. If you want to try something new, take a look at the latest addition... :)

Cheers
Vlk
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 23, 2004, 06:29:42 PM
Nice,but i somehow still prefer the default Blue panel. Don't know why,but its plain simple and effective. Also waiting for 4.5 skin :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Lisandro on September 23, 2004, 09:18:39 PM
What's new?  ???
I find nothing different...  :-\
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 23, 2004, 09:33:29 PM
The Spiderman skin? You can't miss it 8)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Lisandro on September 23, 2004, 10:55:41 PM
The Spiderman skin? You can't miss it 8)

The invisible skin...  :P
It's not here: http://www.avast.com/eng/download/skins/index.html  :'(
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Staind on September 23, 2004, 11:07:29 PM
I'm seeing it, http://files.avast.com/files/skins/spiderman.aswcs

(http://www.avast.com/eng/pic/spiderman.jpg)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 23, 2004, 11:33:45 PM
The Spiderman skin? You can't miss it 8)

The invisible skin...  :P
It's not here: http://www.avast.com/eng/download/skins/index.html  :'(

Technical - hit REFRESH button in your Internet Explorer few times. Clean cache and try again. Most likely your IE reads that page from the cache memory... clean it first and then try again...

Cheers !
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: neal62 on September 24, 2004, 05:49:18 AM
Very nice set of skins. First time I have been there to look at them. Downloaded quite a few of them and put into a separate folder. :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Staind on September 24, 2004, 11:32:54 PM
You've never downloaded skins!?! For me beauty is more important than functionality and Rezjor Sharp by Craftec is what keeps Avast! for me going :p
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Lisandro on September 25, 2004, 04:20:37 AM
Very nice set of skins. First time I have been there to look at them. Downloaded quite a few of them and put into a separate folder. :)

As you may already know, just click the files and you will see avast in another skin  8)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: SKYCOMP on September 25, 2004, 07:05:35 AM
AllRight! Here i go again................

Who is going to be the first to create a skin in Honor of the Cast & Crew & Fans alike for BATTLESTAR GALLACTICA!
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: watchthisspace on September 25, 2004, 10:04:54 AM
Soo many skins to choose from I dont know were to start, I'll just download them all  ;D
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Eddy on September 25, 2004, 10:44:52 AM
I've heard it from several people that they want all skins. Perhaps an idea to put them in a zip file and make that also available on that page.
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 25, 2004, 02:32:18 PM
AllRight! Here i go again................

Who is going to be the first to create a skin in Honor of the Cast & Crew & Fans alike for BATTLESTAR GALLACTICA!

Most likely, no one... avast! is getting so many bad reviews regarding those "gamey" skins, and I have to admit, I'm little bit tired of all those "funny" skins. avast! is antivirus, let's not go too far. I think everyone already have so many skins to choose from... LCARS, Bionic, RejZor Sharp, then some Martin's skins like Blue Panel, Re Cirlce, Petite Blue etc... all kinds of skins, something for everyone... I'm more into these "pro" looking skins these days, and I'm getting very good feedback from avast! users all around the world. That makes me very happy... on the other hand, maybe there is someone who is willing to spend his/her spare time to design something like that...

Cheers !
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Lisandro on September 25, 2004, 03:05:41 PM
I'm more into these "pro" looking skins these days, and I'm getting very good feedback from avast! users all around the world. That makes me very happy... on the other hand, maybe there is someone who is willing to spend his/her spare time to design something like that... Cheers !

Hey! They changed your mind! Give us our pretty skins back!  ;D
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 25, 2004, 09:12:34 PM
Sasha, You made me very happy with your first skin the G5.  I have tried many others but none compare to the one and only  :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 25, 2004, 11:22:21 PM
Still trying to finish my MacLoverOS X,but i simply can't. There was so many glitches and i didn't liked Sasha's menu style (but i'm still glad he helped me  :) ). Argh why this skin creation cannot be easier grrr
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 26, 2004, 12:18:58 AM
Still trying to finish my MacLoverOS X,but i simply can't. There was so many glitches and i didn't liked Sasha's menu style (but i'm still glad he helped me  :) ). Argh why this skin creation cannot be easier grrr

I don't get it... My menu style ? I made something and you said I should make it different. When I finally changed it, I made it exactly like you said it should be... same as other avast! windows including main panel... where is the problem now ? :(
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 26, 2004, 01:02:33 AM
Rejzor can you send me the BETA of the skin?
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 26, 2004, 01:10:11 AM
I just sent you that skin, Kyle my friend.. and it doesn't look like BETA at all ??? It looks like completely finished skin... if RejZor still thinks it's a BETA... well, then it is...

Cheers !
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 26, 2004, 09:50:44 AM
Sasha can you please send me the very same version too? It looks like i backed up the wrong one. It lacks your skin selection fix (black box) and some other things...
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 26, 2004, 01:47:50 PM
Hahaha, there you are... now, who made mistake ? Who ? Who ? Who ? I worked my butt off to fix all those little issues you asked me, and I think they are 100% fixed. I mean, skin behaves like any other skin made by me or Martin. I didn't find any single glitch... hey, not any single glitch...  ;)  :)

OK, I'll send you new version, latest one, IMHO - ready for publishing... that's why I asked you and Vlk 2 months ago, when will you finally publish it...

I'm also happy because you admited, it was your mistake, hihihi  ;D  ;D  ;D

Another thing, I'm wondering - can you promise, next skin you make, you will name it by me ?  ;D I named one of my best skins by your nick name, remember ? I would like to see something dedicated to me sometimes... is it possible ?  ;D
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 26, 2004, 07:33:49 PM
Hm,looks like i had another version. This one is very polished hehe :)
Sory for the misunderstanding :-[ I just need to change few minor things and i'll send it to Vlk. Today or on monday :)
Take care :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: radicalb21 on September 27, 2004, 03:10:39 AM
Hey Craftec,
It's radicalb21. I was wondering if you could make a skin for avast for me with a virus theme in mind. Thanks again in advance.
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 27, 2004, 04:03:41 AM
Well, there is nothing I can't do... ;D I think I already proved it many times... it's just I really don't have a lot of spare time these days. I mean, I catch some spare time here and there, but if I wanna start with new skin, it takes a lot of self-sacrifice, and lot of time spent on designing, testing and checking... I hope you understand me.

Maybe, when all this madness around my work calms down a little bit, then I can think about it...

Cheers !
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: radicalb21 on September 27, 2004, 04:05:21 AM
Ok my friend. No rush.
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 27, 2004, 04:08:25 AM
No problem, in the mean time, I think BIONIC skin can be useful...  :D
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Lisandro on September 27, 2004, 04:09:42 AM
Well, there is nothing I can't do... ;D I think I already proved it many times... it's just I really don't have a lot of spare time these days. I mean, I catch some spare time here and there, but if I wanna start with new skin, it takes a lot of self-sacrifice, and lot of time spent on designing, testing and checking... I hope you understand me.

Maybe, when all this madness around my work calms down a little bit, then I can think about it...

Cheers !

Sasha, sometimes I feel very bad, but very bad when the users blame on skinned applications. I loved avast even you were not here yet... (I've born before you!  ;D).
This s**t talking about professional looking is boring me a lot.
Just to share this here.
Yes, we understand you. A skin takes a lot of time... Sometimes we can't share all your duties with here, the forums, where we fell so good... don't you think?
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 27, 2004, 01:54:08 PM
My final MacLoverOS X skin screenshot:
(http://freeweb.siol.net/razor256/images/macloverosx_image.png)

If everything goes well it should be in the download section very soon :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 27, 2004, 02:32:24 PM
Finally !

I'm really glad I could help...  :)

Can't wait to see it in there...
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: lee20 on September 27, 2004, 02:33:25 PM
looking good RejZoR

--lee
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Lisandro on September 27, 2004, 04:36:00 PM
Sasha, sometimes I feel very bad, but very bad when the users blame on skinned applications. I loved avast even you were not here yet... (I've born before you!  ;D).
This s**t talking about professional looking is boring me a lot.
Just to share this here.
Yes, we understand you. A skin takes a lot of time... Sometimes we can't share all your duties with here, the forums, where we fell so good... don't you think?

Sasha... just tell me something... Am I crazy?

RejZoR, very nice skin! God save the skins  8)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 27, 2004, 04:41:49 PM
Yeah,but i'm not sure if it'll be ever released. I don't quiet understand the agreement of the author.

Some icons were converted into normal images.

Icon author:
http://www.foood.net/

I'm not sure if those icons can be used at all for such things like my MacloverOS X skin. Grrrr damn i hate such problems :-\
I used these icons because they looked so nice,and now this :'(
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2004, 05:15:20 PM
RejZoR
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which do not compete directly with FOOOD's Icons stock icon collections.
From what I read out of his disclosure, You have to pay a onetime royalty fee which gives you the right to incorporate the icons in your screen saver. It does not however give you the right to re-sell the icons.
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 27, 2004, 05:21:40 PM
Paying for a 45x45 icon? C'mon its nice,but not that damn nice!? ::)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2004, 05:26:18 PM
RejZoR
You can still use them on a personal basis. You could even send it to me privately. :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 27, 2004, 09:49:09 PM
Or draw your own icons... it shouldn't be that difficult... I know I could do something like that... but not now...  :-\
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 27, 2004, 10:09:53 PM
Eh,why is he then offering these icons for free donwload?
The skin is freeware by itself and avast! also offers free version that uses these free skins. Don't see the problem though...
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 27, 2004, 11:18:38 PM
Me neither... I don't understand those people.... I really don't. What do they think ? Maybe, that they will collect some serious money on that ? That's bull... and everyone knows that...

They should do something serious in their life, something that will bring them some serious money and that's for sure not playing with drawing icons. They should have a real work, and this only should be a side activity... just like me. I have my regular job, and I'm so happy with it, I wouldn't change it for anything in the world... but, also... I like to draw and to make web sites, and to compose music... those 3 things are my love and first 2 things I'm doing for me and for avast! users only. I never tried to charge for anything like that... avast! is too good to me, I wanna give something in return. I don't know is it good enough, but at least it's something... I don't care 'cause I can't make money on that... that's why I have my regular job. Of course it would be great to make some extra money sometimes if it's possible, but c'mon people... making money on making some icons, unless you are not some designing company, is nonsense...

Maybe I should start to draw icons and ask for millions of dollars (each), hehe  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Staind on September 27, 2004, 11:53:46 PM
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Eh,why is he then offering these icons for free donwload?
The skin is freeware by itself and avast! also offers free version that uses these free skins. Don't see the problem though...
You could email him and ask, no harm in trying, right?
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 28, 2004, 12:00:41 PM
Yeah,i have mailed him,but no answer yet. I hope my mail was not lost somewhere. I also hope he will allow me to use those icons as buttons on my skin. It would be a shame not to publish MacLoverOS X skin. Not because its mine,but because there was lots of hard work from my and Sashas side.
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Vlk on September 28, 2004, 12:58:09 PM
BTW some of the former Darren's skins also used icons from this site, and that's why I had to remove them.

This is what Darren (in fact our tech support) got from the Foood staff:

As you are now aware you can't just take someone's property, use it & release to the general public. If you had approached me from the start I would probably have given permission. But as you didn't, then I don't give permission for this to  be released publicly.

Regards,
J. Hunt
FOOOD's Icons



:-\
Vlk
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 28, 2004, 01:09:51 PM
Oh my God !!! What does he think ? Is he some kid of a God ?!!  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)
(I would put rolleyes million times, but it's a long process and I don't wanna make this reply look silly...  ::) )

Of course, it wouldn't be so hard to ask if I were Darren, but still...

That's why I like to use my own creations, or some icons created by Alwil... that way I'm sure no one will make any problems, and of course, what's even more important, you don't have to beg those individuals. C'mon people, Darren and no one else never ever tried to make money on that... He could put small icon copyright sign somewhere just like I did on LCARS and Matrix skins though...

This is from contact session on that guys web page:
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Don't send questions about using icons, changing icons, using icons in MobyDock, Y'z Dock etc.
Check out my Help, Tips & FAQ page for help with this. Don't send any other questions about changing icons.
If you're having problems downloading files or viewing images take a look here.
If the answer isn't on the Help page then I don't know.
If you send a question that's already answered on the Help page then your email will be ignored.
Don't send requests or suggestions (unless you're prepared to pay for them to be made).

Hmmm.... to many "DON'Ts"  ::)  ::)  ::)

Note for RejZor:

My advice: Take out all those icons made by that guy, from your skin. You don't need them anyway. That's best thing you can do right now. I wouldn't want those icons on any of skins I made, just because he is so arrogant. There are many web sites featuring free icons, and believe me you can find much better looking icons (Mac Style) for your skin... If you don't wanna listen to my advice, then I don't know what else to advise you...  ;)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 28, 2004, 01:59:58 PM
But then i'd have to redesign the skin again...

I have sent the mail to this guy before releasing the skin,so he might let me to use the icons (the skin is still idleing in VLKs mailbox :) ). He's lucky that i found he's site,otherwise i would just sent the skin to Alwil. I had these icons on HD for like 3 or 4 years and i didn't have a clue who made them or where i got them from. I found his site when i was looking for some icons and i found those which i used in his collection...

Second day and still no answer...
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on September 28, 2004, 09:07:09 PM
Will this guy ever reply to my mail!? I'd like to publish the skin before this years Christmas...
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: bob3160 on September 28, 2004, 10:23:03 PM
RejZoR
Set up a task to send him an e-mail every hr. till you get an answer. (That might not get you the answer you want though ;D)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on September 28, 2004, 11:04:57 PM
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Will this guy ever reply to my mail!? I'd like to publish the skin before this years Christmas...

Hahaha, this one is good... probably you won't get that answer ever RejZor... when he sees it's for avast! skin, he will erase your e-mail as soon as he opens it... read in Vlk's post what he wrote to Alwil (actually, it was intended to go to Darren I guess).

Cheers !
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on October 01, 2004, 12:33:50 PM
Weeee i got permission to use the icons for free :)
I just have to add some note that i used his icons and i'm ready to go :)
I'll also add some text to the base skin,so i'll resend the MacLoverOS X skin to Vlk when its ready :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 01, 2004, 12:56:03 PM
great news!
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on October 01, 2004, 01:49:35 PM
Final version sent to Vlk. I hope it will be released very soon :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Lisandro on October 01, 2004, 02:24:53 PM
Final version sent to Vlk. I hope it will be released very soon :)

We're anxious for it  :)
Do you know anything about LeDoc's java tweaker? Any news from him?
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on October 01, 2004, 02:27:17 PM
Nope,haven't seen him around for some time...
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: Lisandro on October 01, 2004, 07:44:55 PM
Any news about your new skin?  8)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on October 01, 2004, 08:15:37 PM
It looks like it'll be published next week,or maybe even tomorrow hehe ;)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: bob3160 on October 01, 2004, 08:39:50 PM
Hi RejZoR:
I told you an e-mail every hour on the hour would do the trick. ;D
I'm glad to hear the good news and am looking forward to it's release.
Thanks. :)
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on October 01, 2004, 09:01:44 PM
Hehe ;D I sent him 3 mails. He was busy with the work...
Title: Re:A new skin
Post by: RejZoR on October 04, 2004, 01:28:38 PM
Vlk, will skin be uploaded soon? ;D