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Title: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: squarepegger on March 31, 2011, 07:04:29 PM
I've been using Avast! ever since version 4 and am very satisfied. It's gotten better and better over time.

I just watched a tech program on CNET that said all you need is one good anti-malware suite rather than having several different anti-malware programs such as an anti-virus program, a firewall program, etc.

So does Avast! Free perform all the security functions that a firewall program such as ZoneAlarm, Comodo, Outpost, etc. do, or should I run both Avast! Free and a firewall program such as ZoneAlarm?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: DavidR on March 31, 2011, 07:42:01 PM
The short answer is yes, as avast free doesn't have a firewall unless you have the Avast Internet Security (AIS) suite, a paid option.

What you don't mention is your OS as they all come with a firewall of sorts, XP's is inbound protection only. Vista and win7 firewall have outbound protection, but it is disabled by default.
- You could also enable the outbound protection of the Vista or Windows 7 firewall, but it isn't very friendly, is rule based and you have to create the rules. - Vista & Windows 7 Firewall Control, http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html (http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html) and this, http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/faq.html (http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/faq.html).

Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Dieselman on March 31, 2011, 08:32:33 PM
That all depends upon your OS. If XP then yes. If Windows 7 then no.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Lisandro on March 31, 2011, 09:56:05 PM
In my personal opinion:

Comodo (http://www.filehippo.com/download_comodo/)
Online Armour (http://www.tallemu.com/free-firewall-protection-software.html)
Outpost Firewall Free (http://www.filehippo.com/download_outpost_firewall/)
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Dieselman on March 31, 2011, 10:01:16 PM
OutPost Firewall Free is no longer supported. They replaced that with OutPost Free Security Suite. But then again it depends upon the OS being used.

http://free.agnitum.com/
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Nesivos on March 31, 2011, 10:02:25 PM
In my personal opinion:

Comodo (http://www.filehippo.com/download_comodo/)
Online Armour (http://www.tallemu.com/free-firewall-protection-software.html)
Outpost Firewall Free (http://www.filehippo.com/download_outpost_firewall/)

Do the same folks that manufacture OnLine Armour also manufacture and sell Emsisoft Anti-Malware?

http://www.emsisoft.com/en/ (http://www.emsisoft.com/en/)

Avast doesn't seem to like Emsisoft.

When it is in memory AIS identifies it as a virus.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: umbrapolaris on April 01, 2011, 09:07:15 AM
So does Avast! Free perform all the security functions that a firewall program such as ZoneAlarm, Comodo, Outpost, etc. do, or should I run both Avast! Free and a firewall program such as ZoneAlarm?

avast FREE is just an AV and dont possess any Firewall. so you need one.

Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Asyn on April 01, 2011, 09:11:20 AM
Avast doesn't seem to like Emsisoft.
When it is in memory AIS identifies it as a virus.

I run the free EAM here without problems. ;)
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: umbrapolaris on April 01, 2011, 09:14:11 AM
me too, no problem with EAM
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: SafeSurf on April 01, 2011, 09:57:03 AM
Emsisoft bought Online Armor (OA) from Mike Nash, the owner of OA.  OA itself is still the same firewall, and the OA developers moved over to Emsi and are now working on a new release (a public beta is now available). 

Avast and OA have never been a problem.  As with any security software, it is recommended that you add each into exclusions.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: squarepegger on April 01, 2011, 12:00:04 PM
Thanks to everyone who replied.

I've always used a firewall along with Avast! Free and will continue to do so. Just wanted to be sure.

Thanks again!  :)
Title: [RESOLVED] Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: SafeSurf on April 02, 2011, 11:49:44 AM
You are very welcome.  Feel free to come back any time you need help, to learn something new, or just to ask questions.  We are here 24/7 for your convenience.  Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Dieselman on April 02, 2011, 12:03:38 PM
What is your OS?
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: squarepegger on April 02, 2011, 02:35:49 PM
@Dieselman

I have XP Pro SP3 32 bit. The firewall program I use (ZoneAlarm) turns off Microsoft's firewall.

I've tried other firewalls with varying results. I liked Outpost Free, but after a few weeks it shut down and told me my trial period was over. That doesn't sound "free" to me.

A couple of times a year, ZoneAlarm Pro is given away free by its developer, Checkpoint Software, so why not use the Pro version if they give it away?

Thanks again everybody, you've been great!
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Dieselman on April 02, 2011, 02:47:09 PM
ZA Free is garbage and is actually no better then Windows Firewall for XP. Your better off with Online Armor,PC Tools or Comodo. OutPost also has a free version. Private Firewall is another free firewall. Take your pick.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: bob3160 on April 02, 2011, 03:45:14 PM
Dieselman,
Your job here is to help others or seek help if you need it.
It isn't to insult others peoples judgement or choices.
Zone Alarm if used properly works very well with avast as do the others you mentioned.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Dieselman on April 02, 2011, 03:47:17 PM
Its called advice. Go over to Matousec and see for your self. Better yet try for yourself. I have plenty of times. ZA Pro is good but ZA Free is junk.


http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: doktornotor on April 02, 2011, 04:12:05 PM
Its called advice. Go over to Matousec and see for your self. Better yet try for yourself.

Thanks but no thanks. Matousec is not testing firewall functionality at all, he is testing HIPS. Also the ethics of this operation are highly questionable.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Dieselman on April 02, 2011, 04:19:26 PM
So then download the CLT test for yourself. Its that easy. There are plenty of FREE choices which provide better protection then ZA Free. Lets keep the members in secure and up to date. Telling someone that ZA Free is a a good free firewall is misleading.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: doktornotor on April 02, 2011, 04:23:34 PM
So then download the CLT test for yourself.

Why should I do it? These leak tests are useless.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Dieselman on April 02, 2011, 04:26:15 PM
It proves a point. Explain to me how its useless? OutPost,PC Tools,Comodo and Online Armor all pass this test. ZA Free fails it. So how is it useless?  ::)

The only thing is that ZA Free lacks HIPS. But it also lacks OS integration. ZA Pro has that.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: doktornotor on April 02, 2011, 04:32:06 PM
The only thing is that ZA Free lacks HIPS.

May I remind you that the OP requested a firewall, not the "flood me with cryptic popup questions every minute" HIPS thing?

Wrt Matousec and similar junky tests: http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/matousec-personal-firewall-tests-analyzed.htm
Wrt leak tests: absolutely useless, firewall needs to be tested with real stuff and not such nonsense where vendors add detections just to "pass" the test.
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: Dieselman on April 02, 2011, 04:35:51 PM
I downloaded ZA Free the other day and disabled Windows firewall. I ran the CLT test and got a 210/340. With Windows 7 firewall on  and ZA Free uninstalled I got a 250/340. So explain how ZA Free is good?
Title: Re: Should I use a firewall program in addition to Avast! Free 6.0.1?
Post by: doktornotor on April 02, 2011, 04:38:48 PM
Look, dude: the Matousec tests are crap. Go and read the opinion of technically savvy people over there at Wilders Security. Also, it is not about FW testing that much like about trying to earn money. Not to mention complete idiocy such as including Mamutu in their firewall tests and refusing to remove it despite repeated vendor requests (yeah, behaviour blocker does not filter packets) or not testing Online Armor because those morons @ Matousec think that a trademark owes them money.  ::)

Debate over, have wasted enough time with you, sir.  ::)
 
P.S. In your posts hunting quest, kindly use MODIFY instead of double and triple posting.
P.P.S. I am not a ZA fan, in fact I hate the thing, does not matter whether Free or Pro. But saying people that the SW sucks because Matousec says so is just stupid. There.