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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: Hermite15 on April 03, 2011, 12:55:23 AM
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the question was asked in a recent AV-Comparatives survey and I find it interesting...
http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/survey/avcomparatives_survey2011.pdf
so again: ""Would you use an AV which does not include any on-demand scanning feature? "
...please try to stick to this question only and not comment any other AV parameter mentioned in the report ;)
I recently canceled my scheduled scans with Avast. This is new and not new. Not new because I was - almost - never performing on demand scans with Avast 4. I came back to it, somehow blinded by the efficiency of Avast UI interface allowing highly customized scans and schedules. But in the end, chances are that our resident shields are good enough to spare us the need of manual scans. Comments appreciated ;)
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so again: ""Would you use an AV which does not include any on-demand scanning feature? "
Easy question - easy answer: No.
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so again: ""Would you use an AV which does not include any on-demand scanning feature? "
Easy question - easy answer: No.
why? ;D
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If the AV did a full scan every 25 minutes Maybe. ::)
But my answer is got to be No.
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why? ;D
You're joking. :P
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why? ;D
You're joking. :P
no I'm not ???
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A full HIPS at least. In this scenario, no doubt, CIS (without the antivirus).
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no I'm not ???
Ok, why would anyone intall an AV without OD scanning...?
To be honest, I don't know if there even is such a 'product' around. ;D
Guess no. Therefore your question is quite obsolete. ;)
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I do...on Ubuntu ;D
EDIT: Ok, I guess this wasn't what you meant...I suppose the proper answer from me is no. I am spoilt by the real time scanning of the webshield etc...
On the scanning comment, I rarely scan...more out of lazyness than anything else...
Ok, why would anyone intall an AV without OD scanning...?
To be honest, I don't know if there even is such a 'product' around. ;D
Guess no. Therefore your question is quite obsolete. ;)
AFAIK, Clam is on demand? (At least the portable version is...)
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Sure. I am already getting on access scans with the latest database everytime I use a process or download anything. I never do scans with Avast!. I do scans with MBAM for a second opinion when I create an image. And Prevx does a daily scan to inventory my configuration, but has no resident database.
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no I'm not ???
Ok, why would anyone intall an AV without OD scanning...?
To be honest, I don't know if there even is such a 'product' around. ;D
Guess no. Therefore your question is quite obsolete. ;)
Obsolete? Asyn are sure that you understood the question? Your system AV protection is based 100% of the time on resident aka on access scans. That would be a good reason to install a product that does not have on demand scanners wouldn't it? As to products that don't have on demand scanners, that's right there are none. LOL that's why I posted this thread.
Now there are products that have exclusively on demand scanners, especially on Linux.That doesn't interest me at all here. Not the topic.
...obsolete meaning old and outdated, I can't see what your point was... as the question is rather new...when one considers how good real time scanners have become.
What do you want a manual scan for?
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Sure. I am already getting on access scans with the latest database everytime I use a process or download anything. I never do scans with Avast!. I do scans with MBAM for a second opinion when I create an image. And Prevx does a daily scan to inventory my configuration, but has no resident database.
Exactly my point, thanks ;)
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What do you want a manual scan for?
I would still like to have it there....
bc if/when a infection is discovered i would like to do an on-demand scan of the hole system......maybe not necessary but i feel safer after a full scan
and if the malware is difficult to remove you also have the option to scan in safe mode and remove it
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@ Logos
Well most resident on-access AVs as far as I'm aware also have on-demand scanning, so I'm not so sure you would come across that scenario too often other than perhaps cloud AV solutions.
I think avast's full range of shields (web, p2p, IM, mail, etc.) to try and keep malware out, backed up by the file system shield (FSS) much depreciates the need for an on-demand scan. For the most part on-demand scans are going to be scanning what are dormant or inert files, the FSS would be scanning active files.
However, new signatures are added constantly and generic/heuristic signatures updated, so it is possible that something that was previously undetected could be picked on the on-demand scan (depending on the scan type). Whilst active files should be picked up by the FSS on-access scanner.
I too never bothered with scheduled scans with avast 4.8 Home (using the ashQuick.exe hack); as you mentioned the convenience of the avastUI and inclusion of scheduled scanning even in the free version, I do a scheduled weekly Quick and monthly Full System scan.
Since I'm using avast I don't have to make the decision about an AV that doesn't have on-demand scanning, so that bridge remains uncrossed.
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"Would you use an AV which does not include any on-demand scanning feature? "
Might be nice to have as a second opinion when avast! finds something. Since it's not resident, it doesn't interfere with avast or anything else.
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"Would you use an AV which does not include any on-demand scanning feature? "
Might be nice to have as a second opinion when avast! finds something. Since it's not resident, it doesn't interfere with avast or anything else.
That isn't the question as Logos is asking/talking about, but an AV that 'doesn't have/include on-demand' scanning not an on-demand AV that doesn't have resident scanners.
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Sorry, misunderstood.
In that case, the answer is NO.
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Probably I've misunderstood the question.
For a second opinion, nowadays, virustotal is the best on demand scanner only.
If it must be local, MBAM.
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No. Maybe I'm paranoid, but a right click or system demand scan is important to me.
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Well i wont use av without ondemand scaner because i need it everytime i attach a usb i dont want to just relay on the real time scanner when using usb. I also do weekly quick scan and monthly full system scan because with new virus defination update it might find something it missed before.
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Let me edit the question,my question,your answer.Why would i?
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funny how quite a few posters here understood the contrary of the question that was asked :D
on access = resident scanner = file system shield, web shield etc...
on demand = manual/scheduled scans = quick/full/custom scans
hope that helps ;D
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Still wondering.Why would i use an av which does not include on-demand scanner.An av which includes on-demand scanner is more beneficial.No?
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Add me to the misunderstood :P
Ok, without an on demand scanner - i.e. no quick scan for example...
I would say no, even though I don't really do many on demand scans - more for the forum than anything else - I still find them useful to catch stuff that I missed when testing. (like temp files from the use of the likes of jsunpack, or files I send to VT or avast)
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Still wondering.Why would i use an av which does not include on-demand scanner.An av which includes on-demand scanner is more benefitial.No?
that's the point... is it really...?
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An idea?
When installing for the first time?
On-access may not necessarily pick up things that are lurking...
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Still wondering.Why would i use an av which does not include on-demand scanner.An av which includes on-demand scanner is more benefitial.No?
that's the point... is it really...?
So you could explain me as i have "misunderstood",the point.
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@ Logos
Well most resident on-access AVs as far as I'm aware also have on-demand scanning, so I'm not so sure you would come across that scenario too often other than perhaps cloud AV solutions.
yeah the question says "would..."... keeping in mind that there are no such products yet. I thought about cloud AVs but I think that even Panda Cloud for instance allows manual scans... not sure, I just tried it once or twice a while ago.
I think avast's full range of shields (web, p2p, IM, mail, etc.) to try and keep malware out, backed up by the file system shield (FSS) much depreciates the need for an on-demand scan. For the most part on-demand scans are going to be scanning what are dormant or inert files, the FSS would be scanning active files.
However, new signatures are added constantly and generic/heuristic signatures updated, so it is possible that something that was previously undetected could be picked on the on-demand scan (depending on the scan type). Whilst active files should be picked up by the FSS on-access scanner.
yeah, that's the thing, even a dormant malware (undetected by previous AVS updates) doesn't matter really, as it'd be picked up by the file shield when the file gets "activated" - as long as a new VPS detects it. If the FS still doesn't, then an on demand scan wouldn't either. Remains the case of unscanned archives, doesn't matter either as they'll be scanned at unpacking time.
I too never bothered with scheduled scans with avast 4.8 Home (using the ashQuick.exe hack); as you mentioned the convenience of the avastUI and inclusion of scheduled scanning even in the free version, I do a scheduled weekly Quick and monthly Full System scan.
Since I'm using avast I don't have to make the decision about an AV that doesn't have on-demand scanning, so that bridge remains uncrossed.
again, I didn't start this thread to refer to any other existing AV solution. Thought it was obvious that I was talking about AV conceptions. One last thing, the resident scanners are so good now that I wouldn't be surprised if on demand scanning modes were ditched progressively by security software companies.
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Still wondering.Why would i use an av which does not include on-demand scanner.An av which includes on-demand scanner is more benefitial.No?
that's the point... is it really...?
So you could explain me as i have "misunderstood",the point.
nope I meant that "is it really" >>> beneficial
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Still wondering.Why would i use an av which does not include on-demand scanner.An av which includes on-demand scanner is more benefitial.No?
that's the point... is it really...?
So you could explain me as i have "misunderstood",the point.
nope I meant that "is it really" >>> beneficial
Well,at least that's my opinion.Every simple feature is something useful and as far as i know on-demand scanner is not useless.
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I thought about cloud AVs but I think that even Panda Cloud for instance allows manual scans... not sure, I just tried it once or twice a while ago.
Yes it has something called "Optimised scan" and "Full scan"....it also does a bacground scan after install, you will see some hardisk activity, not sure if this is similar to the "optimised scan"
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Obsolete?
In deutsch: obsolet - bedeutet auch hinfällig/überflüssig. ;)
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I wonder if this thread has some more relevance now? Not having an on-demand scanner may perhaps have saved some users from adding to their grief in last night's FP episode.
(or perhaps having an on-demand scanner from a different company).
(luckily I missed the update)
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I wonder if this thread has some more relevance now? Not having an on-demand scanner may perhaps have saved some users from adding to their grief in last night's FP episode.
(luckily I missed the update)
Good point.
To answer the initial question: yes, I would (and have a second scanner handy in case of. MBAM for instance.)
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It depends. The boot time scan in Avast is an on-demand scanner. I haven't ever used another antivirus product that had this feature. I would definitely want to keep this. But as for other on-demand scans, I don't schedule any scans. So if it includes getting rid of the boot scan then the answer would be no.