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Title: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 03:26:31 PM
hallo,

I just starter my PC and Avast pops up this behavior question (see screenshot).
Target object cannot be seen on the popup, so here the whole path HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2678822560-3673682103-668471605-1000\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\internat.exe.

It is strange that under this registry key I can not find internat.exe in the registry??? Internat.exe is suspisious file name :-( And the name of the targer starts registry\user but I can find only HKEY_User??? Or is this something else???
And the ubpm.dll dosent say me anything???

can someone help me
I use Win7 Home 64bit
Title: Re: Behavior shield question C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll
Post by: danny96 on April 07, 2011, 03:31:45 PM
hallo,

I just starter my PC and Avast pops up this behavior question (see screenshot).
Target object cannot be seen on the popup, so here the whole path HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-2678822560-3673682103-668471605-1000\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\internat.exe.

It is strange that under this registry key I can not find internat.exe in the registry??? Internat.exe is suspisious file name :-( And the name of the targer starts registry\user but I can find only HKEY_User??? Or is this something else???
And the ubpm.dll dosent say me anything???

can someone help me
I use Win7 Home 64bit
internat.exe is a Microsoft Input Locales.
Looks like you have BS setuped to ask. Please change it to Auto-decide.
(avast! gui > resident shields > behavior shield > advanced settings > Ask change to auto-decide)

Use option "allow and add to trusted programs"
Thanks
Title: Re: Behavior shield question C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 03:33:54 PM
Guckst du hier (http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/internat/).

Set behaviour shield to "automatisch"

 8)
Title: Re: Behavior shield question C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 03:37:37 PM
And just for info: Klick (http://www.fileinspect.com/fileinfo/ubpm-dll/)!
Title: Re: Behavior shield question C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 03:42:12 PM
I know how to set BS to auto.
On this page http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/deutsch/prozess/internat.exe.html in the text at the beginnng it is written that this service doesnt run unter Win7 and Vista, and if so - than it is a virus or trojan ???

and where to find thr key Regestery\user? is it the same as HKEY_USER?
Title: Re: Behavior shield question C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 03:47:43 PM
Send the file to VirusTotal. http://www.virustotal.com/
Post the results here.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 03:49:26 PM
Okay, I read Neubert.

Then block it. Search for internat.exe on your harddrive and have it scanned at virustotal.com.

Run a malwarebytes antimalware scan and post the log here.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 04:26:57 PM
i can not find internat.exe on my harddrive ??? no such file
Title: Re: Behavior shield question C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 04:35:43 PM
i can not find internat.exe on my harddrive ??? no such file

Wäre gut, wenn du eine Signatur angibst, dann können wir dir besser helfen. ;)
Danke,
asyn
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 04:57:46 PM
what do you mean with Signatur (ich bin Deutscher, aber das ist ein englischsprachiges Forum :-)
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 05:00:30 PM
what do you mean with Signatur (ich bin Deutscher, aber das ist ein englischsprachiges Forum :-)

Signatur ist deutsch;
signature would be the English term. ;)
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 05:06:30 PM
We do need some more information... as far as I see, it is unsuspicious.
Some program wants the "internat.exe" to be added to the autostart. Since there is no such program, nothing will happen. (If you searched your HD thoroughly and have explorer enabled to view system files and hidden files)

Did you install anything prior to the last boot?
When did this happen: first boot after installation of Avast?
Or did it happen all of a sudden without you changing anything knowingly to Avast / Windows / Installations?

Anyway, I would block it and run Malwarebytes Antimalware.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 05:23:07 PM
Malwarebytes  is running, so far 2 funds found. When it ends I will post back.

Quote
Did you install anything prior to the last boot?
no

Quote
When did this happen: first boot after installation of Avast?
Or did it happen all of a sudden without you changing anything knowingly to Avast / Windows / Installations?
I use Avast for many years. Today at the morning there was no such popup. Nothing was installed or changed. Now I start PC and Avast pops it up. Maybe does this have something to do with some windows tasks...some days ago I upgraded to v9 and turned Behavior Shield ON, till than it was off.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 05:27:09 PM

Malwarebytes  is running, so far 2 funds found. When it ends I will post back.

...some days ago I upgraded to v9 and turned Behavior Shield ON, till than it was off.


Malwarebytes finds things... not too good a sign, I fear. Let's wait and see.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 05:56:03 PM
Malwareb still runnung...
If I choose Deny and move to chest, which file will be moved and where is the chest?
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
Malwareb still runnung...
If I choose Deny and move to chest, which file will be moved and where is the chest?

???
Let Mbam finish its scan.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 06:01:40 PM
Malwareb still runnung...
If I choose Deny and move to chest, which file will be moved and where is the chest?

We are talking about Behaviour Shield, right?
There is no "move to chest".
"Deny" just cancels the requested program action.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 06:02:19 PM

Let Mbam finish its scan.


+1
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 06:15:22 PM
Quote
We are talking about Behaviour Shield, right?
There is no "move to chest".

well and what is this (screenshot)
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 06:23:09 PM
...ooops.

Sorry. Is there also a "Block" only?
Haven't seen the BS pop up, so I looked up the predefined actions, and there is no "move to chest"...

It would be ubpm.dll - that should not be moved IMHO.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 06:24:12 PM
We need the Mbam log...!!!
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 06:37:10 PM
Quote
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.46
www.malwarebytes.org

Datenbank Version: 4814

Windows 6.1.7600
Internet Explorer 8.0.7600.16385

07.04.2011 18:32:33
mbam-log-2011-04-07 (18-32-33).txt

Art des Suchlaufs: Vollständiger Suchlauf (C:\|D:\|)
Durchsuchte Objekte: 262370
Laufzeit: 2 Stunde(n), 0 Minute(n), 10 Sekunde(n)

Infizierte Speicherprozesse: 0
Infizierte Speichermodule: 0
Infizierte Registrierungsschlüssel: 0
Infizierte Registrierungswerte: 0
Infizierte Dateiobjekte der Registrierung: 0
Infizierte Verzeichnisse: 0
Infizierte Dateien: 2

Infizierte Speicherprozesse:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Speichermodule:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Registrierungsschlüssel:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Registrierungswerte:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Dateiobjekte der Registrierung:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Verzeichnisse:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Dateien:
C:\Windows\Temp\TMP0000000132065B11EAC2D69B (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
C:\Windows\Temp\TMP00000001391A16854DA50208 (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 06:47:33 PM
1. Update Mbam. (latest version is: 1.50.1.1100 - database: 6302)
2. Rescan.
3. Let Mbam deal with its findings.
4. Post the log here.

Edit: No need to run a full scan, a quick scan is enough..!
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 06:56:32 PM
1. Update Mbam. (latest version is: 1.50.1.1100 - database: 6302)
2. Rescan.
3. Let Mbam deal with its findings.
4. Post the log here.

Edit: No need to run a full scan, a quick scan is enough..!


Run Def Update after installing new MBAM version.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 06:59:32 PM
Run Def Update after installing new MBAM version.

Noch immer keine Ahnung, warum er/sie lieber Englisch spricht, aber ok... ;D
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 07:03:38 PM
Run Def Update after installing new MBAM version.

Noch immer keine Ahnung, warum er/sie lieber Englisch spricht, aber ok... ;D


Hi hi hi... is' cool, man!  8)

Das ist hier irgendwie nicht mein Faden. Ich hab ja schon 2 x richtig daneben gelegen... ich brauch mehr Kaffee.  ;D
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 07:05:35 PM
ich brauch mehr Kaffee.  ;D

Ich brauch' jetzt ein Bier. Prost. :)
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: DavidR on April 07, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
I know how to set BS to auto.
On this page http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/deutsch/prozess/internat.exe.html in the text at the beginnng it is written that this service doesnt run unter Win7 and Vista, and if so - than it is a virus or trojan ???

and where to find thr key Regestery\user? is it the same as HKEY_USER?

Because the Behavior Shield threw up the alert, it is effect blocking the action awiting your decision, so fi you didn't allow it then it isn't too surprising that you can't find the registry key.

So personally I would choose Ask rather than the default Auto option in the Behavior Shield.

Yes the Registry\user is it the same as HKEY_USER when you are looking in the actual registry.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 07:12:09 PM
ich brauch mehr Kaffee.  ;D

Ich brauch' jetzt ein Bier. Prost. :)


Quite tempting alternative, I must admit...
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 07:20:51 PM
Quote
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.50.1.1100
www.malwarebytes.org

Datenbank Version: 6302

Windows 6.1.7600
Internet Explorer 8.0.7600.16385

07.04.2011 19:17:50
mbam-log-2011-04-07 (19-17-47).txt

Art des Suchlaufs: Quick-Scan
Durchsuchte Objekte: 165890
Laufzeit: 2 Minute(n), 26 Sekunde(n)

Infizierte Speicherprozesse: 0
Infizierte Speichermodule: 0
Infizierte Registrierungsschlüssel: 0
Infizierte Registrierungswerte: 0
Infizierte Dateiobjekte der Registrierung: 0
Infizierte Verzeichnisse: 0
Infizierte Dateien: 2

Infizierte Speicherprozesse:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Speichermodule:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Registrierungsschlüssel:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Registrierungswerte:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Dateiobjekte der Registrierung:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Verzeichnisse:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Dateien:
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp0000000132065b11eac2d69b (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp00000001391a16854da50208 (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 07:24:10 PM

Infizierte Dateien:
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp0000000132065b11eac2d69b (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp00000001391a16854da50208 (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.


No action taken -> let MBAM send it to quarantine.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 07:25:33 PM

Infizierte Dateien:
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp0000000132065b11eac2d69b (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp00000001391a16854da50208 (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.


No action taken -> let MBAM send it to quarantine.

Yep, do this..!!!
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 07:29:03 PM

Infizierte Dateien:
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp0000000132065b11eac2d69b (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp00000001391a16854da50208 (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.


No action taken -> let MBAM send it to quarantine.

Yep, do this..!!!


phew... at last one correct advice in this thread. Getting better, it must be the coffee.  ::)
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 07:32:29 PM
...it must be the coffee.  ::)

Must be some good stuff..! ;D
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: YoKenny on April 07, 2011, 07:34:56 PM
Quote
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.50.1.1100
www.malwarebytes.org

Datenbank Version: 6302

Windows 6.1.7600
Internet Explorer 8.0.7600.16385

07.04.2011 19:17:50
mbam-log-2011-04-07 (19-17-47).txt

Art des Suchlaufs: Quick-Scan
Durchsuchte Objekte: 165890
Laufzeit: 2 Minute(n), 26 Sekunde(n)

Infizierte Speicherprozesse: 0
Infizierte Speichermodule: 0
Infizierte Registrierungsschlüssel: 0
Infizierte Registrierungswerte: 0
Infizierte Dateiobjekte der Registrierung: 0
Infizierte Verzeichnisse: 0
Infizierte Dateien: 2

Infizierte Speicherprozesse:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Speichermodule:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Registrierungsschlüssel:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Registrierungswerte:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Dateiobjekte der Registrierung:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Verzeichnisse:
(Keine bösartigen Objekte gefunden)

Infizierte Dateien:
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp0000000132065b11eac2d69b (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp00000001391a16854da50208 (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
Another German user needing education about MBAM.  :'(
Maybe doktornotor should take over problem resolution from essexboy ???
Maybe if he learned how update his PROFILE the helpers could offer more pertinent advice.  ???
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 07:37:46 PM

Infizierte Dateien:
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp0000000132065b11eac2d69b (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.
c:\Windows\Temp\tmp00000001391a16854da50208 (Trojan.Dropper) -> No action taken.


No action taken -> let MBAM send it to quarantine.

and this is all?
actually how to send to quarantine? There is only remove in MBAM?
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 07:38:31 PM
Another German user needing education about MBAM.  :'(
Maybe doktornotor should take over problem resolution from essexboy ???

I just love your incrompehensible remarks, YoKenny.  ::)
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: YoKenny on April 07, 2011, 07:45:36 PM
Another German user needing education about MBAM.  :'(
Maybe doktornotor should take over problem resolution from essexboy ???

I just love your incrompehensible remarks, YoKenny.  ::)
Not enough coffee! :'(
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 07:48:17 PM

and this is all?
actually how to send to quarantine? There is only remove in MBAM?

That's it, yes. Remove. It will send it to quarantine.

After that, set your behaviour shield to "Ask" and reboot and let's see, if it pops up again.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 07:50:29 PM
the popup from the beginning is still open, I didnt make any decision. So which action to choose: just deny or terminate/move to chest?
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 07:53:12 PM
the popup from the beginning is still open, I didnt make any decision. So which action to choose: just deny or terminate/move to chest?

Don't move to chest!

Just deny / block, if the option is given.

You can have the C:\Windows\System32\ubpm.dll analyzed at virustotal.com, just to be sure.
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 07, 2011, 09:43:34 PM
Hmmm... no more response.
Is it a bad sign?  ;D
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 09:46:33 PM
Hmmm... no more response.
Is it a bad sign?  ;D

Let's see. ;)
Hätten wir vielleicht doch, aber naja....
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: cska133 on April 07, 2011, 10:12:06 PM
geblockt, with MBAM removed, PC reboot... no popups so far.
lets see
Title: Re: Behavior shield question internat.exe
Post by: Asyn on April 07, 2011, 10:15:20 PM
geblockt, with MBAM removed, PC reboot... no popups so far.
lets see

Ok, report back in a few days.