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Title: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: reesd on April 15, 2011, 03:15:55 PM
How can I verify that Avast is scanning my NNTP traffic with Thunderbird? I don't see anything happening in the mail shield, Mail.log, or EmailShield.txt (and I have it set to report all items).

My server is with news.mozilla.org:119.

With NNTP connection security set to "None" I see nothing.

With NNTP set to SSL I see the following in Mail.log:
4/15/2011   8:52:31 AM   000015E0:   Cannot connect to NNTP server 216.196.97.169 (216.196.97.169:563), connect error 10060

Thanks,
dave

Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: Hermite15 on April 15, 2011, 03:21:32 PM
mail shield doesn't scan nntp protocol, that's by design. Just POP/IMAP/SMTP

oups sorry it does ;D
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: Hermite15 on April 15, 2011, 03:28:35 PM
this said I'm not subscribed to any newsgroups, so I can't test that.
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: sded on April 15, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
If you have Mail Shield set up to scan NNTP, you should see any messages you read in the "last e-mail scanned" field in the Mail Shield.  I am using Agent, not Thunderbird, but should work the same.  See attachment.  Your NNTP server is probably not using SSL; mine isn't.  These are public messages, so SSL is ???
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: reesd on April 15, 2011, 04:26:43 PM
If you have Mail Shield set up to scan NNTP, you should see any messages you read in the "last e-mail scanned" field in the Mail Shield.  I am using Agent, not Thunderbird, but should work the same.  See attachment.  Your NNTP server is probably not using SSL; mine isn't.  These are public messages, so SSL is

Thank you for the screenshot, I can verify I am not seeing that. And I know Thunderbird is downloading new NNTP messages and to be sure I am even reading them inside Thunderbird.

I'll add that with NNTP (vs IMAP from gmail), I really want to be sure the messages are being scanned.

Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot?

Thanks,
dave
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: sded on April 15, 2011, 04:40:46 PM
Other settings for NNTP:
Under Mail Shield/Expert Settings/SSL accounts be sure that your news server is listed, port 119, no encryption; under main setttings "scan nntp messages"
Under the main page Settings/Troubleshooting/Redirect Settings be sure port 119 is listed
You say everything looks normal in TB; you are downloading the headers as requested and able to read the messages?  And your server settings there are port 119/no SSL?
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: sded on April 15, 2011, 04:59:15 PM
Went ahead and set up a news.mozilla.org account in TB and downloaded a few messages.  Avast! worked fine there too; maybe a settings problem?  What OS are you using?  Only the messages you actually read will show up as scanned; not the headers.
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: Hermite15 on April 15, 2011, 05:11:51 PM
yes works fine here as well
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: reesd on April 15, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
Thank you for trying it out, I don't know what I am missing.

I just started from scratch and am still seeing nothing in Avast:


And still nothing in avast GUI or EmailShield.txt [attached image 15]

Versions:

Avast 6.0.10000
Avast Definitions 110415-0
Windows XP Pro SP3
Thunderbird 3.1.9

What else should I be trying here?

Thanks,
dave
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: reesd on April 15, 2011, 06:01:24 PM
Other image I couldn't attach due to size limits.
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: reesd on April 15, 2011, 06:02:46 PM
And also screenshots of my avast settings [attached images 16, 17].

Hopefully all these images don't get me banned (again :)
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 15, 2011, 06:12:36 PM
After setting up nntp account: did you close & restart TB?
Thats what I had to do.
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: Hermite15 on April 15, 2011, 06:19:43 PM
no restart needed here, as soon as subscriptions to groups are done, messages are flowing and get scanned...
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 15, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
no restart needed here, as soon as subscriptions to groups are done, messages are flowing and get scanned...

Yeah, I had nntp-scanning disabled when creating the feed, so Avast did not pick up the server settings. I enabled nntp in Avast and then had to do a restart of TB to make Avast recognize it... thought it was worth a try.
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: sded on April 15, 2011, 06:26:38 PM
What about the settings for mail shield/ssl accounts and main settings/redirects?
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: sded on April 15, 2011, 06:31:27 PM
Oh, and remove your email address before posting things, so spammers everywhere won't get acquainted with you.  :)
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: Zyndstoff (aka Steven Gail) on April 15, 2011, 06:34:53 PM
 ;D Your name is Dave?

Maybe you are running Avast on a HAL 9000 Computer... "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qnd-hdmgfk)"  ( <--- clickable link) ;D

Sorry guys - I couldn't resist this one...
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: reesd on April 15, 2011, 06:45:20 PM
no restart needed here, as soon as subscriptions to groups are done, messages are flowing and get scanned...

Yeah, I had nntp-scanning disabled when creating the feed, so Avast did not pick up the server settings. I enabled nntp in Avast and then had to do a restart of TB to make Avast recognize it... thought it was worth a try.

I was about to say that I had rebooted Thunderbird (many times) and even rebooted windows. Just in case I decided to reboot windows and its now working. However, I did change one other thing though, I turned off SSL for my email in Thunderbird as well (it was on before). I'm not sure which one did it and don't have time right now for another reboot.

I have turned SSL back on for Thunderbird email (I trust gmail's virus scanning more than I trust me remembering to turn SSL back on if I uninstall Avast in the future), so next time I reboot I will see if it keeps working or if I need to turn off SSL for email again.

Thank you for help and suggestions!

PS, For the record I had NNTP scanning turned on the whole time in Avast.

d
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: reesd on April 15, 2011, 06:46:40 PM
What about the settings for mail shield/ssl accounts and main settings/redirects?

"mail shield/ssl" attached in case its helpful. I don't see a "main settings/redirects".
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: Hermite15 on April 15, 2011, 06:49:04 PM
go to Avast main settings, troubleshooting section
Title: Re: thunderbird nntp - how to verify avast is scanning
Post by: reesd on April 15, 2011, 06:49:25 PM
Oh, and remove your email address before posting things, so spammers everywhere won't get acquainted with you.  :)

It's all over already, thanks to newsgroups and other public stuff. I'm really amazed how well gmail cleans up my spam.

Maybe you are running Avast on a HAL 9000 Computer...

:)