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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: Raveen Kool on April 19, 2011, 07:58:40 AM
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I was just wondering, most of the antivirus companies started using HIPS like COMODO, Kaspersky, Eset(with the upcoming version 5), etc. But AVAST still has not introduced HIPS. Will AVAST introduce HIPS v7? Is it necessary for an antivirus to have HIPS??
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Will AVAST introduce HIPS v7?
Not that I have heard of, they never seem to be going in that direction.
Is it necessary for an antivirus to have HIPS??
Not at all. It is just another way of creating an additional layer of defense outside of the traditional virus signature approach. Avast! instead goes with behavior shield/heuristics, and most recently an auto-sandbox.
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Probably not as they have gone the behavioral monitor route, if you want a hips most firewalls now include them or you can get winpatrol.
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Probably you guys are right..... :P
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Probably not as they have gone the behavioral monitor route, if you want a hips most firewalls now include them or you can get winpatrol.
WinPatrol is very good even the free version:
WinPatrol free vs PLUS
http://www.winpatrol.com/compare.html
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i tried winpatrol its not my taste....
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i tried winpatrol its not my taste....
It happens to be an excellent program.
What are your reasons for your statement ???
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Avast went with a BB cause its more user friendly. HIPS are not user friendly but if you like HIPS so much then go with GesWall. Norton also uses a BB called Sonar.
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Avast went with a BB cause its more user friendly.
BB ???
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For those non techie people:
BB = Behavior Blocker
HIPS = Host Intrusion Prevention System
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I'm moving the topic a little, but what are your thoughts on the Avast firewall? I don't recall anyone discussing the subject but I probably just missed it. Just curious...thanks.
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The Avast firewall is still very new which makes it rather weak. If your current OS is Windows 7 then your all set with Windows Firewall.
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The Avast firewall is still very new which makes it rather weak. If your current OS is Windows 7 then your all set with Windows Firewall.
Thanks!
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The Avast firewall is still very new which makes it rather weak. If your current OS is Windows 7 then your all set with Windows Firewall.
What does the age of the firewall have to do with it's strength or lack thereof ???
What makes the Windows firewall stronger ???
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The Avast firewall is still very new which makes it rather weak. If your current OS is Windows 7 then your all set with Windows Firewall.
What does the age of the firewall have to do with it's strength or lack thereof ???
What makes the Windows firewall stronger ???
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If you have to ask that bob then its not worth explaining. Just look at Avast's scores over at Matousec and it explains all.
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I have tried Avast Internet Security on my other computer and the firewall is the strongest one I have ever seen!
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If you have to ask that bob then its not worth explaining. Just look at Avast's scores over at Matousec and it explains all.
They test it as a stand-alone firewall. The flaw of this method has been discussed here numerous times. It is not meant to be that way, it needs to be used as part of AIS to work as it should.
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Maybe true but he asked. And when you look at the competition and the other firewall he has used..............Avast IS is very poor. Its like driving a Kia after driving a 500SL.
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Maybe true but he asked. And when you look at the competition and the other firewall he has used..............Avast IS is very poor. Its like driving a Kia after driving a 500SL.
Avast IS isn't very poor.... it is better then any other AV out there.. plus the firewall is way better.
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I hope Avast wont use a HIPS in the future as it can be VERY annoying with all the popup questions!! I tried Online Armour firewall on my virtual computer and got tired of all the popups..
As for Avast Firewall being weak, I'm not very sure about that.. It all depends on the test methods.. Avast did extremely well in the virus bulletin comparatives test and wasnt that good at all on av-tests (Avast got average results on that)..
So its the same case with firewalls I guess.. depends on the test methods.. Also Norton firewall seems to pretty weak in that as well..
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Maybe true but he asked. And when you look at the competition and the other firewall he has used..............Avast IS is very poor. Its like driving a Kia after driving a 500SL.
Avast IS isn't very poor.... it is better then any other AV out there.. plus the firewall is way better.
Better then what exactly?
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Avast IS is very poor.
Wow, now you have gone from saying the FW is bad to saying the whole suite is very poor? On Avast!'s own forum no less? Your big brass stones swing mightily :o ;D
Its like driving a Kia after driving a 500SL.
I'm lost on that metaphor, fuel efficient compact vs. performance sport = FW vs. FW ....how?
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We are talking about the firewall is Avast IS people. Gezz.
If your lost with that metaphor then your lost in general.
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We are talking about the firewall is Avast IS people. Gezz.
If your lost with that metaphor then your lost in general.
I appreciate the input...that helped quite a bit and definitely answered my question. Back to HIPS....
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If your lost with that metaphor then your lost in general.
No, I believe it is you who might be lost, as in maybe forgot this is Avast!'s forum? If you had your own bad experience with AIS then of course you could post about that. But touting Matousec as the truth and crapping on Avast!'s doorstep? (wait, maybe I am lost, is this Comodo forums ??? ;D )
Back to HIPS....
What, first you move the topic away from HIPS, now you want to go back? ;)
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If your lost with that metaphor then your lost in general.
No, I believe it is you who might be lost, as in maybe forgot this is Avast!'s forum? If you had your own bad experience with AIS then of course you could post about that. But touting Matousec as the truth and crapping on Avast!'s doorstep? (wait, maybe I am lost, is this Comodo forums ??? ;D )
Back to HIPS....
What, first you move the topic away from HIPS, now you want to go back? ;)
Sure...I heard what I needed to know and now it can revert back to who has the nicest HIPS!
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Just look at Avast's scores over at Matousec and it explains all
Matousec test is about HIPS not for firewall so Avast scores very low....
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Matousec is NOT reliable and independent... Why worry about?
Gizmo criticizes the Matousec's tests. It's a technical reading, but seems fair (http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/matousec-personal-firewall-tests-analyzed.htm).
Others point to an interest conflict on Matousec's tests, reducing their independence (?) (http://smokeys.wordpress.com/2008/04/20/matousecs-firewall-challenge-wrinkle-conflict-of-interests/).
Leak tests are popular mainly because they are very easy to perform: you simply run a program, and it tells you if it passed or failed the test. However, life is not that simple, unfortunately.
The primary goal of a firewall is to keep hackers out of your system, that is, prevent inbound attacks in the first place. It's astonishing that many firewaller "testers" only focus on outbound protection, completely ignoring the inbound part (which is absolutely vital). It's like they assumed it worked flawlessly in case of all the products, which, unfortunately, doesn't seem to be the case, really.
Next, outbound protection is of course also important, but so called leak tests are not everything. There's a myriad of other things that a decent firewall should do, and which are usually not assesed by these tests. All I'm saying is that testing a firewall is a very complex task and focusing on leak tests is a gross (and inappropriate) simplification.