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Title: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 09:13:57 PM
Hi,

I hope most guys make use of SUPERAntiSpyware or Malwarebytes' AntiMalware or both while using avast!. But I just need your feedback on their paid versions. Exactly about the real-time protection.

Currently I'm using SAS Pro. Coz it has pretty small usage of resources and more features than MBAM (both paid versions).

Which one is better for real-time malware protection?

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Lisandro on May 01, 2011, 09:59:08 PM
I remember David uses SAS Pro... Maybe he can compare.
MBAM is quite good on recent (zero-day) malware as far I've read.
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: danny96 on May 01, 2011, 10:10:56 PM
I like MBAM more because It's simple and effective.
But, Both of them mark my Visual Basic applications as Trojan.Fake(MS) Alert
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 10:27:05 PM
Thank ya for ur replies guys :)

MBAM mostly block sites and it blocks my TeamViewr connections when Site blocking is activated on PRO. I've heard MBAM is effective though it's FREE. But comparatively as to their features, SAS Pro provide more real-time protection including Registry.

I'm impressed with real-time resource utilization of SAS Pro. But have no idea yet to use what as real-time.

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: DavidR on May 01, 2011, 10:46:10 PM
I have SAS Pro on this system and MBAM free, essentially you shouldn't have two resident anti-malware/spyware applications installed, one has to be on-demand (free).

I have had SAS for some considerable time before MBAM came out, I liked it and bought the lifetime license. If they were both available at the time, I would be hard pressed as to which one to go for in the Pro, resident version. They both have slightly different feature set so can't easily be compared.

On my win7 netbook I have MBAM Pro installed with avast.
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: YoKenny on May 01, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
MBAM Website Blocking with MBAM Pro is awesome.
Its on par with Web Shield.
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 10:51:27 PM
I have SAS Pro on this system and MBAM free, essentially you shouldn't have two resident anti-malware/spyware applications installed, one has to be on-demand (free).

I have had SAS for some considerable time before MBAM came out, I liked it and bought the lifetime license. If they were both available at the time, I would be hard pressed as to which one to go for in the Pro, resident version. They both have slightly different feature set so can't easily be compared.

On my win7 netbook I have MBAM Pro installed with avast.

Thank you David... Tech suggested you may help on this comparing.

If you don't mind may I have your opinion on MBAM Pro? it's more likely block malicious websites too. But I saw a guy mentioned on another topic it blocks all porn websites. It may false positive sometimes, don't know as my knowledge.

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 10:55:01 PM
MBAM Website Blocking with MBAM Pro is awesome.
Its on par with Web Shield.

Have you ever used SAS Pro mate?

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: DavidR on May 01, 2011, 11:03:58 PM
MBAM Website Blocking with MBAM Pro is awesome.
Its on par with Web Shield.

On a par with the web shield you can't be serious, sorry yes you probably are.

The MBAM website blocking will do nothing to protect against hacked sites, very common if you hadn't noticed. For that it can't hold a candle too the Web Shield.
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:07:03 PM
On a par with the web shield you can't be serious, sorry yes you probably are.

The MBAM website blocking will do nothing to protect against hacked sites, very common if you hadn't noticed. For that it can't hold a candle too the Web Shield.

+1 :)
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Pondus on May 01, 2011, 11:08:45 PM
MBAM Website Blocking with MBAM Pro is awesome.
Its on par with Web Shield.

On a par with the web shield you can't be serious, sorry yes you probably are.

The MBAM website blocking will do nothing to protect against hacked sites, very common if you hadn't noticed. For that it can't hold a candle too the Web Shield.
True....but it will block a large number of malware installers, and Malwarebytes is designed to be a supplement to AV not a competing program

Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: YoKenny on May 01, 2011, 11:09:03 PM
MBAM Website Blocking with MBAM Pro is awesome.
Its on par with Web Shield.

On a par with the web shield you can't be serious, sorry yes you probably are.

The MBAM website blocking will do nothing to protect against hacked sites, very common if you hadn't noticed. For that it can't hold a candle too the Web Shield.
I would believe you if you could spell!

You mean to not too!
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: DavidR on May 01, 2011, 11:11:50 PM
<snip>
Thank you David... Tech suggested you may help on this comparing.

If you don't mind may I have your opinion on MBAM Pro? it's more likely block malicious websites too. But I saw a guy mentioned on another topic it blocks all porn websites. It may false positive sometimes, don't know as my knowledge.

Cheers...

I like it too, but as I say they have slightly different feature sets, this being one of them. But how important do you consider it, p-o-r-n sites aren't necessarily going to be malicious, so blocking just on that criteria isn't great.

If that matters to you then I would suggest going a step further and use OpenDNS (Dashboard) as that can block a host (excuse the pun) of sites by category, one being malicious, phishing, another being adult content, etc. etc. there are a great many different categories you can use to filter sites.

So you have to have a look at the feature set and see what is important to you and can you already get it in some other form, like OpenDNS, etc. and stick with the free version as an on-demand backup.
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:13:49 PM
True....but it will block a large number of malware installers, and Malwarebytes is designed to be a supplement to AV not a competing program

Yep, but MBAM Pro associated with more false positives as I read around the web and its users' feedbacks.

don't you guys never heard of em?

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: DavidR on May 01, 2011, 11:15:27 PM
MBAM Website Blocking with MBAM Pro is awesome.
Its on par with Web Shield.

On a par with the web shield you can't be serious, sorry yes you probably are.

The MBAM website blocking will do nothing to protect against hacked sites, very common if you hadn't noticed. For that it can't hold a candle too the Web Shield.
I would believe you if you could spell!

You mean to not too!

Ha Ha Ha, here goes Kenny diving of at another tangent having had his ass handed 'too' (sic) him once again.

I rather doubt that anyone comes to the forums is overly concerned with typos/spelling mistakes, etc. etc. so long as they get and understand the information.

The typo/spelling doesn't change the facts :P
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: g0dsends on May 01, 2011, 11:15:51 PM
i have super anti spyware pro 5.0 and malware bytes i use both and there good so theres no issue having both on the system.
i was wondering what is the best firewall ive been using comodo pro along time but is there a better one out there ?
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Pondus on May 01, 2011, 11:19:22 PM
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don't you guys never heard of em?
Heard of what..... False Positives....every security progam have FP

report them here  http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?s=6e2a08b83416c8e0ccc34d1780ada027&showforum=42
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:21:18 PM
I like it too, but as I say they have slightly different feature sets, this being one of them. But how important do you consider it, p-o-r-n sites aren't necessarily going to be malicious, so blocking just on that criteria isn't great.

If that matters to you then I would suggest going a step further and use OpenDNS (Dashboard) as that can block a host (excuse the pun) of sites by category, one being malicious, phishing, another being adult content, etc. etc. there are a great many different categories you can use to filter sites.

So you have to have a look at the feature set and see what is important to you and can you already get it in some other form, like OpenDNS, etc. and stick with the free version as an on-demand backup.

Thank you:) I brought out P-O-R-N site blocking coz MBAM not dealing with malicious sites exactly as per their malicious activity. I ll try on OpenDNS. Currently I'm using ClearCloudDNS, is that same as it?

Anyway thank you for making me doubtless N confident. I'm gonna use SAS Pro as it was for real-time protection and MBAM for on-demand now.

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Pondus on May 01, 2011, 11:21:57 PM
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i have super anti spyware pro 5.0 ......
Strange..... latest is Version: 4.51.1000  http://superantispyware.com/downloadfile.html?productid=SUPERANTISPYWAREFREE

or do you run a beta ?
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:25:11 PM
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don't you guys never heard of em?
Heard of what..... False Positives....every security progam have FP

report them here  http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?s=6e2a08b83416c8e0ccc34d1780ada027&showforum=42

Thnx 4 heading me there mate :) but currently SAS Pro has no conflict, and MBAM Pro does (false positives).

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Pondus on May 01, 2011, 11:27:00 PM
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Thank you:) I brought out P-O-R-N site blocking coz MBAM not dealing with malicious sites exactly as per their malicious activity. I ll try on OpenDNS. Currently I'm using ClearCloudDNS, is that same as it?
NO.... http://www.clearclouddns.com/FAQ/#1

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What is the difference between ClearCloud and OpenDNS?
 ClearCloud is not intended to be content filtering, which is what OpenDNS provides. Its intent is to be a security device to keep your computer safe from malicious sites.
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Pondus on May 01, 2011, 11:28:42 PM
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don't you guys never heard of em?
Heard of what..... False Positives....every security progam have FP

report them here  http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?s=6e2a08b83416c8e0ccc34d1780ada027&showforum=42

Thnx 4 heading me there mate :) but currently SAS Pro has no conflict, and MBAM Pro does (false positives).

Cheers...
Superantispyware Report False Positives here
http://forums.superantispyware.com/index.php?/forum/32-false-positives/

Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: g0dsends on May 01, 2011, 11:28:51 PM
running a beta copy 5.0 sas http://forums.superantispyware.com/index.php?/topic/4236-superantispyware-50-limited-pre-release-available/
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:28:54 PM
i have super anti spyware pro 5.0 and malware bytes i use both and there good so theres no issue having both on the system.
i was wondering what is the best firewall ive been using comodo pro along time but is there a better one out there ?

Do you have any problem with Comodo? if you satisfied, then it is the best for you. Anyway I'm using no seperate firewall, coz I got avast firewall and its more than enough. Not annoying too :)

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: DavidR on May 01, 2011, 11:31:04 PM
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i have super anti spyware pro 5.0 ......
Strange..... latest is Version: 4.51.1000  http://superantispyware.com/downloadfile.html?productid=SUPERANTISPYWAREFREE

or do you run a beta ?

SAS 5.0 is still I believe a pre-release version currently I have had it since it was first released, currently it is on version 5.0.1078 and appears to be very stable.
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:31:10 PM
Strange..... latest is Version: 4.51.1000  http://superantispyware.com/downloadfile.html?productid=SUPERANTISPYWAREFREE

or do you run a beta ?

It's a pre-release... http://www.superantispyware.com/sasprereleaselimited.php

I'm on it too.

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:32:23 PM
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Thank you:) I brought out P-O-R-N site blocking coz MBAM not dealing with malicious sites exactly as per their malicious activity. I ll try on OpenDNS. Currently I'm using ClearCloudDNS, is that same as it?
NO.... http://www.clearclouddns.com/FAQ/#1

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What is the difference between ClearCloud and OpenDNS?
 ClearCloud is not intended to be content filtering, which is what OpenDNS provides. Its intent is to be a security device to keep your computer safe from malicious sites.

Thnx:) Sharing is caring..

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:33:49 PM
Superantispyware Report False Positives here
http://forums.superantispyware.com/index.php?/forum/32-false-positives/

Thnx, but nothing yet...

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: YoKenny on May 01, 2011, 11:37:54 PM
Superantispyware Report False Positives here
http://forums.superantispyware.com/index.php?/forum/32-false-positives/

Thnx, but nothing yet...
You are 23 years old and very impatient and that is the reason!
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:43:03 PM
Thnx, but nothing yet...
You are 23 years old and very impatient and that is the reason!

 :P Thnx 4 reminding me up. Ya kinda impatient. Woops..

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: essexboy on May 01, 2011, 11:44:58 PM
I have a lifetime license for SAS pro - so I thought I would download the latest and give it a whirl..  Haven't had it on my system since my XP days.  I will find out if it works OK with Avast and Windows 7 
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:50:38 PM
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What is the difference between ClearCloud and OpenDNS?
 ClearCloud is not intended to be content filtering, which is what OpenDNS provides. Its intent is to be a security device to keep your computer safe from malicious sites.

I set up a OpenDNS account and now I have to set it up on my PC. I mean adding DNS server address, but I'm currently having ClearCloudDNS server address specified there.

What should I do now exactly?

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Pondus on May 01, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
MBAM Website Blocking with MBAM Pro is awesome.
Its on par with Web Shield.

On a par with the web shield you can't be serious, sorry yes you probably are.

The MBAM website blocking will do nothing to protect against hacked sites, very common if you hadn't noticed. For that it can't hold a candle too the Web Shield.
I would believe you if you could spell!

You mean to not too!

Ha Ha Ha, here goes Kenny diving of at another tangent having had his ass handed 'too' (sic) him once again.

I rather doubt that anyone comes to the forums is overly concerned with typos/spelling mistakes, etc. etc. so long as they get and understand the information.

The typo/spelling doesn't change the facts :P
Kenny does...... and don`t you forget to add that signature guy`s.....  ;D
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 01, 2011, 11:59:10 PM
What is OpenDNS?
OpenDNS is a high-tech company based in San Francisco that provides easy-to-implement Internet navigation and Web security solutions for families, schools, governmental organizations and businesses of all sizes. The services provided by OpenDNS increase the speed of navigating websites and prevent unintended access to phishing and malware sites as well as to any Web content that you configure to be restricted.

What is ClearCloud?
ClearCloud is a service that provides safe and reliable web browsing by preventing you from going to websites that are known to perform malicious activity. It's like having a GPS in your car that won't let you turn down a street with known criminal activity.

Both use for preventing from malicious sites & activities. isn't it?
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 02, 2011, 12:04:04 AM
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What is the difference between ClearCloud and OpenDNS?
ClearCloud is not intended to be content filtering, which is what OpenDNS provides. Its intent is to be a security device to keep your computer safe from malicious sites.

As such, we do a lot more research on sites that try to steal information from you, download malicious files onto your machine, trick you into buying useless programs, and other similar functions. We block a lot more sites that are malicious because that's what we concentrate on. We process up to a million potential threats a day, and capture any URLs that real threats "phone home" to. We also actively search out malicious sites and have other systems in place to identify who the bad guys are.

You'll be safer with ClearCloud. If you're trying to gamble on-line or download movies or engage in social networking, you can surf to your heart's content, because ClearCloud is guarding the gate and preventing you from going to a malicious site.

This does make sense for my question, but content filtering isn't risky than preventing?

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: DavidR on May 02, 2011, 12:14:11 AM
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What is the difference between ClearCloud and OpenDNS?
 ClearCloud is not intended to be content filtering, which is what OpenDNS provides. Its intent is to be a security device to keep your computer safe from malicious sites.

I set up a OpenDNS account and now I have to set it up on my PC. I mean adding DNS server address, but I'm currently having ClearCloudDNS server address specified there.

What should I do now exactly?

Cheers...

You have to specify the OpenDNS primary and secondary IP addresses. Then you need to setup the dashboard account so you can apply the filtering.

Whilst ClearcloudDNS doesn't have the same content filtering as OpenDNS, I think they are blowing their trumpet a bit as OpenDNS does have phishing and malicious site blocking by default without the dashboard feature which you can further define what to filter out.
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Pondus on May 02, 2011, 12:18:44 AM
and if you sett up your router with OpenDNS, then every computer connected will be protected...


craigb tested ClearCloud  http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=75118.msg631871#msg631871
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I thought i would test this clearcloud out that he ( DM ) has been bashing everyone with and telling them that it's better than MBAM Pro, iv gone to so many nasty links and sites in the last week and not one peep out of clearcloud, it's been avast or MBAM that have popped up and warned or blocked everything everytime.
Put to the test and this suggestion of his is bogus info that he is advising to everyone 
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 02, 2011, 12:25:09 AM
Whilst ClearcloudDNS doesn't have the same content filtering as OpenDNS, I think they are blowing their trumpet a bit as OpenDNS does have phishing and malicious site blocking by default without the dashboard feature which you can further define what to filter out.

ClearCloud may doesn't have anti-phishing and I mostly not consider content filtering as the categories OpenDNS offer. But OpenDNS offer more protection and security than ClearCloud. So I better move to OpenDNS.

Thnx for your feedbacks David.

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 02, 2011, 12:26:55 AM
and if you sett up your router with OpenDNS, then every computer connected will be protected...


craigb tested ClearCloud  http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=75118.msg631871#msg631871
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I thought i would test this clearcloud out that he ( DM ) has been bashing everyone with and telling them that it's better than MBAM Pro, iv gone to so many nasty links and sites in the last week and not one peep out of clearcloud, it's been avast or MBAM that have popped up and warned or blocked everything everytime.
Put to the test and this suggestion of his is bogus info that he is advising to everyone 

:) Thnx for your tips mate... worths alot.

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: Pondus on May 02, 2011, 12:45:44 AM
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Thank you:) I brought out P-O-R-N site blocking coz MBAM not dealing with malicious sites exactly as per their malicious activity.
opendns definitely work on this, i have sett up my sisters router with this bc of the kids, and i am not able to access any nudity sites
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on May 02, 2011, 01:41:23 AM
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Thank you:) I brought out P-O-R-N site blocking coz MBAM not dealing with malicious sites exactly as per their malicious activity.
opendns definitely work on this, i have sett up my sisters router with this bc of the kids, and i am not able to access any nudity sites

I set it up on my router, but OpenDNS says I'm not using OpenDNS even though I restarted PC and reboot router. Then I configured TCP/IP on my OS. So now it works and no worries.

Thnx guys...

Cheers...
Title: Re: SAS or MBAM?
Post by: DavidR on May 02, 2011, 02:34:27 AM
<snip>
ClearCloud may doesn't have anti-phishing and I mostly not consider content filtering as the categories OpenDNS offer. But OpenDNS offer more protection and security than ClearCloud. So I better move to OpenDNS.

Thnx for your feedbacks David.

You're welcome.