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Title: People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on October 11, 2004, 06:50:59 PM
Check yourself in here:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11493345~mode=flat (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11493345~mode=flat)

Ignorance is bliss...  ::)
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Eddy on October 11, 2004, 06:54:25 PM
Only thing I see there are a bounch of people talking without knowledge. And that is what got them into trouble the first place as it looks. I bet none of them even took the effort to do a little reading in Avast's manual or here to see what settings are appropiate for them ;)

2 million Avast users and 11.000 registers for the home version a day can't be wrong :D
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on October 11, 2004, 07:11:59 PM
Just as I said... did you see Eddy what are they talking about avast! ? Some stupidities I've never heard before...  ::) And that hpguru is somekind of "Central BRAIN" in those forums...  ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: RejZoR on October 11, 2004, 07:42:38 PM
You can give anonymous reply if you want. I did.
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on October 11, 2004, 07:52:45 PM
Me too... see here:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11493345~mode=flat~days=9999~start=20 (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11493345~mode=flat~days=9999~start=20)
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: techie101 on October 11, 2004, 09:21:05 PM
Try to look at it from their perspective.

Avast fails when Brainbuster bot is removed by Spybot.

I think I will contact Spybot and ask why it picks up Brainbuster in the first place.

Then we need to figure out why removal of the Hkeys kills Avast.

Remember, people are entitled to their opinion.  Instead of slamming them, let's try to educate them.

Lets all try to research this Brainbuster think and get some definite information on it.

Come on A-Team.....Let's rock!
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on October 11, 2004, 09:30:30 PM
I sent similar PM like this one to Bob...

Brainbuster Brainbot - There is some guy calling himself Brainbuster. He made Brainbot. I'm not sure is it in any way related to his work (if we can even call it that name  ::), but anyway )... See here (please do some minor searching on that web site) :

http://brainbot.de.vu/ (http://brainbot.de.vu/)

I wonder why some people have problems with SPYBOT recognizing Active Skin parts as spyware, and I never had any problems with spybot. It never found anything like that on my system. Of course I always have Spybot up to date, except I don't like to download beta definitions. I'm starting to think, that their systems are maybe infected with Brainbot... maybe it's attacking Active skin keys, who knows... someone who is infected will most likely have problems with Spybot detecting those keys as spyware...

Cheers !
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: techie101 on October 11, 2004, 09:43:57 PM
I usually go here for much info on malware and preventives:

http://www.spywareguide.com/index.php

Brainbuster is not listed in their database which is one of the largest.

Send out email to vendor Spybot.  We'll let you know if I get a reply.
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: BanziBaby on October 11, 2004, 10:40:05 PM
S.Z.C, if U dont check the option to download or check for beta definitions in spybot then U wont be affected by this prob, it only seems to happen with the beta ones.

I posted there as well as it was me that found the cause of it being the beta rules in spybot, didnt mean to come down on them, one comment that i quoted just annoyed me, thnk the guy said how do we know it aint Avast's fault despite all the evidence pointing to spybot.

BaNzI  ;D
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: techie101 on October 12, 2004, 12:48:31 AM
BanziBaby,

Well, I think we can only say with definition that Spybot does detect the Brainbuster as spyware.

The problem still remaining is why removal shuts down Avast.

I am awaiting a reply from Spybot and Wilders Security on the subject.

Until then, I would stay away from any beta updates.
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Eddy on October 12, 2004, 12:59:30 AM
The programmers of Spybot S&D already fixed it. It should be solved with the next release of their database update.

HERE (http://forums.net-integration.net/index.php?showtopic=23069) is the reaction of one of the Spybot s&d team.
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: watchthisspace on October 13, 2004, 04:58:48 AM
Thanks for the heads up, i usually download beta updates and i've just unchecked the option to download beta updates, thanks again  :)


Watchthisspace
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: bob3160 on October 13, 2004, 03:10:17 PM
watchthisspace
Quote
i've just unchecked the option to download beta updates
Just where is that setting located?  ::) Thanks :)
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Lisandro on October 13, 2004, 05:52:16 PM
Try to look at it from their perspective.
Avast fails when Brainbuster bot is removed by Spybot.

See my troubles here: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=7543;start=msg63101#msg63101

Remember, people are entitled to their opinion.  Instead of slamming them, let's try to educate them.

Fully right in my opinion...

I think I will contact Spybot and ask why it picks up Brainbuster in the first place.
Then we need to figure out why removal of the Hkeys kills Avast.
Come on A-Team.....Let's rock!

I'm not sure it's an avast trouble... Spybot must correct its detection.
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Lisandro on October 13, 2004, 05:54:32 PM
watchthisspace
Quote
i've just unchecked the option to download beta updates
Just where is that setting located?  ::) Thanks :)

On the configuration, Automation, Update through Internet ... (I'm translating from my own language...)
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: bob3160 on October 13, 2004, 06:38:01 PM
Thanks Technical but that option is unchecked by default.
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Lisandro on October 13, 2004, 07:39:51 PM
Thanks Technical but that option is unchecked by default.

Yeah, it's true, but doesn't it affect your system? I mean, if you uncheck it I think you won't get the beta versions, will you?
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: bob3160 on October 13, 2004, 07:59:31 PM
Technical
The default setting is unchecked. You have to manually go into settings and select it and when you do, there is a warning that tells you that you could get false positives.
In this case, it's the user who puts him/her self at risk by not understanding the ramifications (consequences) of their action.
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Lisandro on October 13, 2004, 08:23:35 PM
There is a warning that tells you that you could get false positives.

Worse than that: you can't go back  :(
Once you get the Beta version, you cannot go back to the stable definitions  :'(
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Jeccu on October 13, 2004, 10:42:00 PM

Worse than that: you can't go back  :(
Once you get the Beta version, you cannot go back to the stable definitions  :'(

I think that deleting the files BETA.SBI, BETA.UTI (includes folder) and INCLUDESB.ZIP (updates folder) will do that.

Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Lisandro on October 14, 2004, 12:14:39 AM
I think that deleting the files BETA.SBI, BETA.UTI (includes folder) and INCLUDESB.ZIP (updates folder) will do that.

I'd rather add the Brainbuster Brainbot detected files to ignore list until major update. Maybe beta.uti is just a false cognate  :P
Title: Re:People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Jeccu on October 14, 2004, 12:36:32 AM

I'd rather add the Brainbuster Brainbot detected files to ignore list until major update. Maybe beta.uti is just a false cognate  :P

Could be.  :P
But I made a little test. I scanned my computer with beta definitions without adding Brainbuster to ignore list --> Spybot alarmed of course. Then I deleted the files I mentioned and scanned again --> no alarms.

Title: Re: People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: brainbuster on January 25, 2005, 04:37:15 PM
Hi
Im brainbuster I coded that brainbot ...
I just found this thread searchin for my own nick on google. ;D

I can tell you avast has NOTHING to do with brainbot.
spybot detected avast installations because it found the actskin.ocx ... this file was also used in the server builder of brainbot(the part that CANT cause harm to any computer).
This hole thing just shows  how hard spybot sucks.

--greetz, brainbuster
www.brainbuster.tk
Title: Re: People blame avast! for Brainbuster Brainbot
Post by: Lisandro on January 25, 2005, 08:27:33 PM
This hole thing just shows how hard spybot sucks.

Welcome brainbuster...
You'll have a lot to contribute here.
But, just a question, can we say 'false positives' are the same as 'deep scanning'?  ::) :-\