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Title: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: bigstony on June 08, 2011, 05:46:49 AM
According to the avast  official website shows:  http://www.avast.com/zh-cn/locate-dealer

there is no dealer in china.

why?

Almost all the anti-virus software companies around the world are competing in the Chinese market

Even  AVG announced  to establish offices in China in May

Because Avast  has 160 million users? It is enough?

Avira ,through Chinese companies cooperation, get far more than this number  

His partner,

360 free anti-virus software,which is NASDAQ listed companies, has 300 million users in China

Tencent in China has more than 650 million customers

 
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: scythe944 on June 08, 2011, 06:19:12 AM
According to the avast  official website shows:  http://www.avast.com/zh-cn/locate-dealer

there is no dealer in china.

why?

Almost all the anti-virus software companies around the world are competing in the Chinese market

Even  AVG announced  to establish offices in China in May

Because Avast  has 160 million users? It is enough?

Avira ,through Chinese companies cooperation, get far more than this number 

His partner,

360 free anti-virus software,which is NASDAQ listed companies, has 300 million users in China

Tencent in China has more than 650 million customers

so, what are you waiting for? avast..........

Well, because Avast doesn't need offices everywhere.  There are no hard packages to purchase, only downloads, and their form of advertisement is mostly word of mouth.

That's why they have their free version.

So... get out there and tell your friends, family, co-workers about avast, and help distribute it where you live.
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: RejZoR on June 08, 2011, 07:30:06 AM
Though China is a big market and despite piracy i'm sure you can still get a large chunk of market if you do it properly. Local support and sales certainly help that.
Plus being present in that country will help gather certain samples faster.
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: igor on June 08, 2011, 12:01:22 PM
I believe (but I admit I don't know much about it, so I may be wrong) you need a special government permit to sell security software in China - which, of course, has some conditions...
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: Asyn on June 08, 2011, 12:24:05 PM
I believe (but I admit I don't know much about it, so I may be wrong) you need a special government permit to sell security software in China - which, of course, has some conditions...

...as don't dedect our own trojans... ;)
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: Pondus on June 08, 2011, 12:59:03 PM
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...as don't dedect our own trojans..
W32:Chinesedissidents [trj]   ;D
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: igor on June 08, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
Well, that's not really what I meant, and I don't know any details - but I believe it's not a simple thing.
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: sded on June 08, 2011, 02:18:07 PM
Ask Google for a reference
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: lukor on June 08, 2011, 11:56:12 PM
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360 free anti-virus software,which is NASDAQ listed companies, has 300 million users in China

Tencent in China has more than 650 million customers

Where do you get these numbers from?
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: Nesivos on June 09, 2011, 12:13:12 AM
According to the avast  official website shows:  http://www.avast.com/zh-cn/locate-dealer

there is no dealer in china.

 

I would think that:

1.  Avast only needs a dealer in China if they want to sell to businesses, educational institutions or governmental agencies.

2.  To sell to home users all they need is a Chinese language version and a Chinese forum on this website.  It is possible that they would also need some kind of license to sell it over the internet to home users and without that license the Chinese government would block access to the Avast website where you could purchase avast!

Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: bigstony on June 09, 2011, 06:29:43 AM
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360 free anti-virus software,which is NASDAQ listed companies, has 300 million users in China

Tencent in China has more than 650 million customers

Where do you get these numbers from?

baidu or google, easy to get these numbers
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: anthonypelosi on June 14, 2011, 05:53:40 AM
According to the avast  official website shows:  http://www.avast.com/zh-cn/locate-dealer

there is no dealer in china.

why?

Almost all the anti-virus software companies around the world are competing in the Chinese market

Even  AVG announced  to establish offices in China in May

Because Avast  has 160 million users? It is enough?

Avira ,through Chinese companies cooperation, get far more than this number  

His partner,

360 free anti-virus software,which is NASDAQ listed companies, has 300 million users in China

Tencent in China has more than 650 million customers

 

There is no doubt that china is a very big market,i think

The recently published opswat shows:

AVAST So¬ftware and AVG Technologies both top this quarter’s worldwide antivirus market with 12.37% each. AVAST shows a decrease from its leading 16.19% last quarter, which could be due to a shi¬ft in the percentage of data originating from various countries. Avira and Microso¬ft rank third and fourth with 12.29% and 11.24% of the market, respectively. Microsoft¬’s gain from last quarter could be attributed to the distribution advantage that Microsoft¬ Security Essentials holds due to the convenient installation through Windows Update and its smooth integration with the popular IE browser. Comodo also shows a noticeable increase in this report, rising from 1.27% last quarter to 2.79% this quarter.  Several other vendors increased their market share from OPSWAT’s last report as well, including AVG, McAfee, Trend Micro, PC Tools, Emsi So¬ware and…

Maybe the report numbers are just numbers, maybe they are really future signals,

Nasdaq old words says,“Any company can be listed, but time will tell the tale.”

so wait and see…   ;)
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: igor on June 14, 2011, 09:34:40 AM
Erm, yes, the Opswat report is definitely just numbers - not to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: bigstony on June 16, 2011, 01:48:03 PM
you are wrong
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: wincoad on June 17, 2011, 11:49:39 AM
Hello, I am a Chinese, I think, not to have certain AVAST China the reason. In China, tencent registered users is up to 200 million, 360 have a 300 million, this is a big number, but on the contrary, they all have a big characteristics, that is all is free, AVAST free market in China will have a great space, but the charge is not a very good performance, but, come to China it, because, in the antivirus, you do good!
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: bigstony on July 19, 2011, 01:18:50 PM
According to the avast  official website shows:  http://www.avast.com/zh-cn/locate-dealer

there is no dealer in china.

why?

Almost all the anti-virus software companies around the world are competing in the Chinese market

Even  AVG announced  to establish offices in China in May

Because Avast  has 160 million users? It is enough?

Avira ,through Chinese companies cooperation, get far more than this number 

His partner,

360 free anti-virus software,which is NASDAQ listed companies, has 300 million users in China

Tencent in China has more than 650 million customers

 

There is no doubt that china is a very big market,i think

The recently published opswat shows:

AVAST So¬ftware and AVG Technologies both top this quarter’s worldwide antivirus market with 12.37% each. AVAST shows a decrease from its leading 16.19% last quarter, which could be due to a shi¬ft in the percentage of data originating from various countries. Avira and Microso¬ft rank third and fourth with 12.29% and 11.24% of the market, respectively. Microsoft¬’s gain from last quarter could be attributed to the distribution advantage that Microsoft¬ Security Essentials holds due to the convenient installation through Windows Update and its smooth integration with the popular IE browser. Comodo also shows a noticeable increase in this report, rising from 1.27% last quarter to 2.79% this quarter.  Several other vendors increased their market share from OPSWAT’s last report as well, including AVG, McAfee, Trend Micro, PC Tools, Emsi So¬ware and…

Maybe the report numbers are just numbers, maybe they are really future signals,

Nasdaq old words says,“Any company can be listed, but time will tell the tale.”

so wait and see…   ;)
I think these are not just numbers

kaspersky (amazing success in china,also the most popular foreign antivirus software in china)

http://www.kaspersky.com.cn
Jackie Chan‘s choice,hooooo..........
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/r8tlW21ZD04/

avg
www.avg.com
www.avgsafe.com

avira
http://www.ihongsan.com/

gdata
www.gdata-china.com

sophos
http://www.sophos.cn

eset nod
http://www.eset.com.cn/

and so on...

it is a very hard  work to find avast competitors who do not come to china.

if they don't have any resellers in china, when they are just staying in the office, what can they do in china ?

so,anthonypelosi,understand these numbers?
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: Lisandro on July 19, 2011, 01:20:41 PM
you are wrong
No, he isn't.
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: bigstony on July 21, 2011, 10:54:39 AM
avast is not missing the future , is losing the future ;D

http://www.crn.de/software/artikel-91222.html

Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: LunarWolf on July 21, 2011, 05:34:49 PM
If you see the map, you can see that avast have quite a lot of users from China. Not sure if the map is accurate or not.

http://www.avast.com/maps (http://www.avast.com/maps)
Title: Re: why avast does not come to china?
Post by: kochin on July 21, 2011, 07:36:22 PM
According to the avast  official website shows:  http://www.avast.com/zh-cn/locate-dealer

there is no dealer in china.

why?

Almost all the anti-virus software companies around the world are competing in the Chinese market

Even  AVG announced  to establish offices in China in May

Because Avast  has 160 million users? It is enough?

Avira ,through Chinese companies cooperation, get far more than this number  

His partner,

360 free anti-virus software,which is NASDAQ listed companies, has 300 million users in China

Tencent in China has more than 650 million customers

 

You can find the local reseller in region Hong Kong, one of the reseller registered their address in  Beijing .


Usually, I (Hong Kong reseller too) sell license to Chna clients via TT or Paypal. I think other may do the same way as me.