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Title: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Vlk on June 22, 2011, 06:58:48 AM
The update has now been officially released as v6.0.1203.
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=81028.0
Thanks to everyone who helped testing.


Hi everyone,

we will soon be releasing a new program update of avast. And as usual, we're making it available for public testing a few days before the official release. The version number is Edit June 30: 6.0.1198.

This is hopefully going to be a smooth service release, designed really just to fix some of the issues of the previous v6.0 builds.

Here's the list of the most important changes:
- improved compatibility with Windows Vista SP0/SP1
- attempt to solve the "Windows Media Player using a red skin" problem
- Firewall: improved compatibility with uTorrent
- improved the sample submission process
- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)
- improved load time of WebRep IE plugin
- improvements in the silent installer
- improvements in the sandbox module
- added Thai and Serbian language packs

And new in 6.0.1198:
- Firewall: the long-standing uTorrent compatibility problem should now be finally resolved
- improved tracking of file sources
- improvements in the installer
- fixes of bugs reported in the previous beta


Download links:
links snipped

You can either install from scratch, or over an existing installation of avast (any version). Users of the previous pre-release build (6.0.1184) can also use the built-in program updater. (no need to download the full package from the above links).

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: ANHTHU5991 on June 22, 2011, 07:28:59 AM
thanks for you effort
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Coolmario88 on June 22, 2011, 08:05:01 AM
I wonder in the next program update if The Script shield will start scanning webpages in IE9 on 64 bit pcs
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: TedNelly on June 22, 2011, 08:24:33 AM
Installed over 6.0.1125 worked like a charm

All seems fine  thanks again, great work!!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: avadas.de on June 22, 2011, 09:16:29 AM
Hello,

installed and running fine so far. Is the imrovement in the Sandbox also related to AutoSandbox (sensitivity)?

Furthermore I wasn't able to install the German language to this pre-release version using the UI. Is it a known issue with pre-releases?

Release Notes translated to German language here (http://forum.avadas.de/threads/3241-avast!-6.0.1184-BETA).

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: ady4um on June 22, 2011, 11:38:01 AM
As with the previous program update, I'll wait for the program update tray notification to be displayed before I apply it. I hope some frequent forum users can test their tray notifications too, instead of manually applying the update using the main GUI as usual.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: NON on June 22, 2011, 11:56:22 AM
Thanks. I'll try this. :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Rednose on June 22, 2011, 12:00:51 PM
Thnx Ondrej :)

Btw I was expecting the Beta last night, but maybe your kids didn't want to go to bed early  ??? ;D

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Tetsuo on June 22, 2011, 12:16:10 PM
Hi,

Could someone please tell me what exactly is a "CreditAlert" feature (US customers only)?

Thanks in advance,
T.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Ashish Singh on June 22, 2011, 12:20:43 PM
I wonder in the next program update if The Script shield will start scanning webpages in IE9 on 64 bit pcs

Why is it working in 32bits systems. I don't think so...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: George Yves on June 22, 2011, 12:24:13 PM
Hi,

Could someone please tell me what exactly is a "CreditAlert" feature (US customers only)?

Thanks in advance,
T.
I am not sure but it may be a service of this kind: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-credit-fraud-alert.htm
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Rednose on June 22, 2011, 12:36:01 PM
According to the info we got last February, the CreditAlert feature is one of the new Partner Poducts.
But I have no idea who the Partner here is :-\

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: logos on June 22, 2011, 01:00:50 PM
lol just when I wanted to check the date the last beta build was released... a new one is out, will test in a minute ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: spg SCOTT on June 22, 2011, 01:34:27 PM
Have to say...I'm not liking the change to the alerts...

Where has the Process field gone?

That massive button...that sends people to that pushy (imo) page...


And it is wider than it needs to be.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MartinZ on June 22, 2011, 01:38:29 PM
Hi,

Could someone please tell me what exactly is a "CreditAlert" feature (US customers only)?

Thanks in advance,
T.

Hi Tetsuo,

you can find more information about the CreditAlert feature here:
http://www.avast.com/lp-credit-alert#tab2-1

Basically we will be offering 2 products:
CreditAlert Free  - monitors your credit report and notify via avast! if any change occur
CreditAlert Premium - monitoring + gives you a full access to your credit report + credit scores, from the 3 US credit bureaus (price is set to $9.95/month)

This product(feature) is provided with our partner company ID Watchdog.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Tetsuo on June 22, 2011, 02:03:11 PM
you can find more information about the CreditAlert feature here:
http://www.avast.com/lp-credit-alert#tab2-1

Basically we will be offering 2 products:
CreditAlert Free  - monitors your credit report and notify via avast! if any change occur
CreditAlert Premium - monitoring + gives you a full access to your credit report + credit scores, from the 3 US credit bureaus (price is set to $9.95/month)

This product(feature) is provided with our partner company ID Watchdog.

Thank you, MartinZ. It seems to be a very interesting new feature.

Many thanks also to the other members who replied to my original post.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: BrollyLSSJ on June 22, 2011, 02:06:35 PM
Installed fine on both W7 32 Bit and W7 64 Bit. No problems were noticed so far.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: logos on June 22, 2011, 02:10:10 PM
@spg SCOTT: I agree about the process field, not present anymore in the web shield alert, this should definitely be brought back. If you deactivate the webshield and let the fileshield intercept EICAR, then the alert is just as it always was, showing which process was involved.

 As to the page linked to the alert button, I don't mind the content, i.e. promoting the safezone currently. What I find pushy though is the size of that button ;D + the info page doesn't bring any security info at all... it's a purely Avast promoting page. Worldwide statistics are not gonna help anyone whose system has just been attacked >>> bring some relevant malware info instead ::)

edit: promoting AIS through a virus alert is just bad taste ... one question: does this button link to the same page when triggered from Avast "free"... as I see this text here:
Quote
You have it, so why not use it? Browse virtually with avast! SafeZone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 22, 2011, 02:12:34 PM
Seems good the CreditAlert feature, although only US available.
Will the release WebRep be compatible with FF 5?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DJBone on June 22, 2011, 02:15:01 PM
Will the release WebRep be compatible with FF 5?
Yes! On my Win7 32bit with FF5

DJBone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: spg SCOTT on June 22, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
@spg SCOTT: I agree about the process field, not present anymore in the web shield alert, this should definitely be brought back. If you deactivate the webshield and let the fileshield intercept EICAR, then the alert is just as it always was, showing which process was involved.
It there if web shield is set to ask, but seeing as the default is to abort (plus the network shield is the same) this will only confuse things...especially when people get random alerts, and the process field was useful in tracking down what caused them (if it was a browser it was just a blocked wepage...if it was explorer/svchost, or some other file, then it was on the machine...

Quote
As to the page linked to the alert button, I don't mind the content, i.e. promoting the safezone currently. What I find pushy though is the size of that button ;D + the info page doesn't bring any security info at all... it's a purely Avast promoting page. Worldwide statistics are not gonna help anyone whose system has just been attacked >>> bring some relevant malware info instead ::)

edit: promoting AIS through a virus alert is just bad taste ... one question: does this button link to the same page when triggered from Avast "free"... as I see this text here:
Quote
You have it, so why not use it? Browse virtually with avast! SafeZone

It says: "Browse safer virtually, with the avast! SafeZone™"

It is backwards...the info (graph and statistics) that is at the bottom should be the first thing you see, since that is why you click the link in the first place. The ad for AIS should be below...I think any way...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: logos on June 22, 2011, 02:38:29 PM
sounds to me like pretty obviously, people clicking for the first time on the "more details" button will just expect detailed info about the precise malware that was blocked, no?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DavidR on June 22, 2011, 02:53:48 PM
Have to say...I'm not liking the change to the alerts...

Where has the Process field gone?
<snip>

I agree that Process information is very useful, not least for us helping on the forums as knowing the process involved helps determine what is going on. Typically Malicious URL alerts when the process involved is svchost.exe, etc. generally this is a rootkit issue and possible MBR rootkit.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Vlk on June 22, 2011, 02:55:47 PM
sounds to me like pretty obviously, people clicking for the first time on the "more details" button will just expect detailed info about the precise malware that was blocked, no?

This whole discussion is a bit premature as the landing page is completely changing. I.e. the landing page you're seeing is not the landing page that should be there when the update is released.

Indeed, the new landing page is supposed to contain additional information about the virus as well as some other data.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 22, 2011, 03:03:13 PM
Edit: promoting AIS through a virus alert is just bad taste ... one question: does this button link to the same page when triggered from Avast "free"... as I see this text here:
Hmmm... I tend to feel the same as Logos.
More info should have a minor size and MUST give technical information. Otherwise, just promotion.
avast free blocks the invasion and you say "Yes, that was close, but relax... avast! just saved a crash!".
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Vladimyr on June 22, 2011, 03:06:32 PM
Thanks for the new Beta release.
It's not in the changelog but has the frequent BSOD problem on some machines in this thread (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=79757.0) been addressed and/or resolved?
I.E. Is there anything concrete to reassure me that if and when I do install the next AIS 6 Release on the one PC on which all previous versions have been unstable, that I will not be again pressing the reset button every half-hour or so?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: keloo05 on June 22, 2011, 03:09:54 PM
Vlk, Chrome changed it's icon since version 10.
http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/03/fresh-take-on-icon.html

Wouldn't be nice to see the new updated icon on the WebRep tab?
Thank you for your work on this great antivirus :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Rednose on June 22, 2011, 03:10:57 PM
Edit: promoting AIS through a virus alert is just bad taste ... one question: does this button link to the same page when triggered from Avast "free"... as I see this text here:
Hmmm... I tend to feel the same as Logos.
More info should have a minor size and MUST give technical information. Otherwise, just promotion.
avast free blocks the invasion and you say "Yes, that was close, but relax... avast! just saved a crash!".

Yes, I agree.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: pcclean3453 on June 22, 2011, 04:15:54 PM
Just downloading right now-can't wait for the real update! Maybe the webrep update for FF v5 will be in it too.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: XP. on June 22, 2011, 04:25:16 PM
Here's the list of the most important changes:
- improved compatibility with Windows Vista SP0/SP1
- attempt to solve the "Windows Media Player using a red skin" problem
- Firewall: improved compatibility with uTorrent
- improved the sample submission process
- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)
- improved load time of WebRep IE plugin
- improvements in the silent installer
- improvements in the sandbox module
- added Thai and Serbian language packs

silent install don`t work, parameters:

/VERYSILENT /NORESTART /SP-

or this:

/Silent

example I use: C:\Temp\avast5\setup_av_free.exe /Silent

installation start but when finish say this and icon and avast service don't appear:

(http://www.imagengratis.org/images/dibujoxl8yx.jpg)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: spg SCOTT on June 22, 2011, 04:42:17 PM
I agree that Process information is very useful, not least for us helping on the forums as knowing the process involved helps determine what is going on. Typically Malicious URL alerts when the process involved is svchost.exe, etc. generally this is a rootkit issue and possible MBR rootkit.

Now that process will change to "Please change the settings in the webshield to ask, then report back the process when it happens again..."

It is there when the setting is on ask, but seeing as the default actions are to do something, then most people will not see the process listed...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Charyb on June 22, 2011, 04:51:45 PM
Where is this CreditAlert feature? I am in the US and I don't see any reference to it in the GUI.

- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)

I also agree with logos and scott on the virus alert... show the process and the "more details" button is way out of proportion. Would really like to see the correct page showing the details.

Also, "Yes, that was close, but relax... avast! just saved a crash!"  How about saved from a possible infection and a potential crash? Not every system crashes when infected.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: gate1975mlm on June 22, 2011, 04:56:20 PM
"EssentialFax" Opens very slow unless I put in the the Exclusions list under "File System Shield"

http://www.essentialfax.com/

Can you fix this so I do not need to ad it to the Exclusions list please?

"EssentialFax" is a very clean program :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DJBone on June 22, 2011, 05:01:25 PM
Just downloading right now-can't wait for the real update! Maybe the webrep update for FF v5 will be in it too.
Yes it is.

DJBone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Asyn on June 22, 2011, 05:46:10 PM
I agree that Process information is very useful, not least for us helping on the forums as knowing the process involved helps determine what is going on. Typically Malicious URL alerts when the process involved is svchost.exe, etc. generally this is a rootkit issue and possible MBR rootkit.

Now that process will change to "Please change the settings in the webshield to ask, then report back the process when it happens again..."

It is there when the setting is on ask, but seeing as the default actions are to do something, then most people will not see the process listed...

Not very practical... :-\
I suggest to revert this back to the old look/info.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DavidR on June 22, 2011, 06:04:18 PM
Just downloading right now-can't wait for the real update! Maybe the webrep update for FF v5 will be in it too.

It already is.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Harikrishnan on June 22, 2011, 06:49:24 PM
Probably the network shield log problem is still there.....(topic=77934.0)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: cadremis on June 22, 2011, 07:02:32 PM
This one seems to be working just fine in my Windows 7 SP1 PC.... WebRep is working in Firefox 5 now.. tks... I will install this one in my XP PC and get back comments...rm
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: RejZoR on June 22, 2011, 07:23:13 PM
Good to see uTorrent issue getting resolved. I hope completelly and finally.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 22, 2011, 07:45:26 PM
Seems good the CreditAlert feature, although only US available.
Will the release WebRep be compatible with FF 5?

WebRep is good to go for my computers with Firefox 5.0

GUI updates did not work.  Said it was up to date.   Could be the avast! server that my computers were trying to download from did not yet have the update on it.

Downloaded installer and ran it.  Clicked on update, installed and required a restart.

Everything looks good so far including WebRep :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 22, 2011, 07:53:51 PM
Re: Credit Alert.  I read the web page with the info and have some questions.

1. What information do you have to supply in order to activate it?

Please provide an exact detailed list of information that needs to be supplied including information like Social Security number.

2. Does it start out as a monthly recurring charge or can you set it up initially for only one month?

3. If you decide to stop the service at any time how do you do that?

4. Is this service outsourced to a third party?

If it is outsourced to a third party like a credit agency, please provide the link to that agency.

That are all the questions I have at this time.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Gopher John on June 22, 2011, 08:17:20 PM
Where is this CreditAlert feature? I am in the US and I don't see any reference to it in the GUI.

- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)

The only place that I see the CreditAlert is under Settings (in the upper toolbar) when you navigate to Maintenance | CreditAlert Settings.  You can disable the popups there.  I haven't dug further.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 22, 2011, 08:21:31 PM
Where is this CreditAlert feature? I am in the US and I don't see any reference to it in the GUI.

- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)

The only place that I see the CreditAlert is under Settings (in the upper toolbar) when you navigate to Maintenance | CreditAlert Settings.  You can disable the popups there.  I haven't dug further.

There is webpage linked earlier that provides more information.  Basically $9.99 or $9.95 whatever a month to activate it.  As I recall it can be activated from the webpage that was linked.  I haven't checked the GUI on this yet.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Charyb on June 22, 2011, 08:43:26 PM
The only place that I see the CreditAlert is under Settings (in the upper toolbar) when you navigate to Maintenance | CreditAlert Settings.  You can disable the popups there.  I haven't dug further.

Thanks Gopher. They didn't make it very obvious. I thought it would have been under "Additional Protection".

You can choose betweeen free or premium alerts.

Terms and Conditions of Credit Alert
http://www.avast.com/terms-credit-alert?p_pro=1&p_vep=6&p_ves=0&p_lqa=0&p_lsu=0&p_lst=0&p_lex=0&p_lng=en&p_lid=en-ww&p_elm=27

EDIT: After registering under settings/maintenance a tab under "Additional Protection" appears.

What exactly is the free registration monitoring?

Below is a screenshot.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: JuninhoSlo on June 22, 2011, 09:13:57 PM
Thank you for Avast Internet Security  6.0.1184
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: rnuis on June 22, 2011, 09:23:28 PM
The only place that I see the CreditAlert is under Settings (in the upper toolbar) when you navigate to Maintenance | CreditAlert Settings.  You can disable the popups there.  I haven't dug further.

Thanks Gopher. They didn't make it very obvious. I thought it would have been under "Additional Protection".

You can choose betweeen free or premium alerts.

Terms and Conditions of Credit Alert


http://www.avast.com/terms-credit-alert?p_pro=1&p_vep=6&p_ves=0&p_lqa=0&p_lsu=0&p_lst=0&p_lex=0&p_lng=en&p_lid=en-ww&p_elm=27

EDIT: After registering under settings/maintenance a tab under "Additional Protection" appears.

What exactly is the free registration monitoring?

Below is a screenshot.

I don't see it where can i find it then??
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MikeBCda on June 22, 2011, 09:37:11 PM
Hopefully the credit alert thing will be expanded in the relatively near future.  Currently no use to me here in Canada, and probably even more importantly, my biggest account (Visa, from my own bank) uses strictly EquiFax for their credit info.  I have an Emerald card, which has a sliding scale of interest rates based on my credit score ... and under the privacy act or something similar, the bank isn't permitted to pass along to me any info they get from InfoFax.  I can theoretically pay IF for a report, but even the bank agrees they're not very user-friendly, and the reports tend to be almost useless.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 22, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
Here is the link to the Avast commercial credit company partner, ID Watchdog.

http://www.idwatchdog.com/
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jack 1000 on June 22, 2011, 09:58:32 PM
The only place that I see the CreditAlert is under Settings (in the upper toolbar) when you navigate to Maintenance | CreditAlert Settings.  You can disable the popups there.  I haven't dug further.

Thanks Gopher. They didn't make it very obvious. I thought it would have been under "Additional Protection".

You can choose betweeen free or premium alerts.

Terms and Conditions of Credit Alert
http://www.avast.com/terms-credit-alert?p_pro=1&p_vep=6&p_ves=0&p_lqa=0&p_lsu=0&p_lst=0&p_lex=0&p_lng=en&p_lid=en-ww&p_elm=27

EDIT: After registering under settings/maintenance a tab under "Additional Protection" appears.

What exactly is the free registration monitoring?

Below is a screenshot.

This will only be in the paid versions of Avast, right?

Jack
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 22, 2011, 10:01:40 PM
The free service does not offer much of anything.

All it does is notify you of a change in your credit report with a company named TransUnion.   If you want to see what the change was and your actual credit report with them you need to get the Premium; i.e. Paid Service.

IMO the free service is nothing more than a marketing tool to try and induce you to get the Premium service.  I have no problem with that but if that is indeed the case people who are considering getting the free service should be aware of it.

You can read the TOS on the link

http://www.avast.com/terms-credit-alert?p_pro=1&p_vep=6&p_ves=0&p_lqa=0&p_lsu=0&p_lst=0&p_lex=0&p_lng=en&p_lid=en-ww&p_elm=27 (http://www.avast.com/terms-credit-alert?p_pro=1&p_vep=6&p_ves=0&p_lqa=0&p_lsu=0&p_lst=0&p_lex=0&p_lng=en&p_lid=en-ww&p_elm=27)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MartinZ on June 22, 2011, 10:04:18 PM
Where is this CreditAlert feature? I am in the US and I don't see any reference to it in the GUI.

- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)


Hi Charyb,
the CreditAlert feature will be offered after successful avast! registration. But you can also find it in Settings->Maintenance->CreditAlert->Register
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 22, 2011, 10:06:13 PM
TOS

This is interesting

Quote
ID Snapshot: If You detect any irregularities or potential irregularities as a result of the Services, You may request an ID Snapshot report. This report utilizes more detailed information gathered from certain databases, including those accessed by the other Premium Services as well as additional database resources, for the purpose of identifying any facets of your identity that may have been affected by identity theft. In order to receive an ID Snapshot Report, You must first provide a signed and dated Delegation of Power to ID Watchdog. ID Snapshot services are governed by ID Watchdog’s separate terms and conditions available at: www.idwatchdog.com. Your periodic Premium Services fee does not include ID Snapshot for any Pre-Existing Conditions (as defined below).

Link on previous post.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jack 1000 on June 22, 2011, 10:07:23 PM
I agree that Process information is very useful, not least for us helping on the forums as knowing the process involved helps determine what is going on. Typically Malicious URL alerts when the process involved is svchost.exe, etc. generally this is a rootkit issue and possible MBR rootkit.

Now that process will change to "Please change the settings in the webshield to ask, then report back the process when it happens again..."

It is there when the setting is on ask, but seeing as the default actions are to do something, then most people will not see the process listed...

Can you provide screenshots to illustrate this example, and the steps that the user would take?

Jack
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 22, 2011, 10:11:39 PM
It seems to me that by signing up to the Premium service which dose of course require providing your SS# along with other pieces of private data that you are giving up a hell of a lot of privacy.  Too much for me at this point given that I have never had any problems in this area so, which I believe is do to trying to keep pretty good control on my privacy.

For others who have had credit problems and don't mind spending $10 a month to try and clear them up this could be a good deal.  I don't know what competitors to ID WatchDog are providing or how much it may cost.  Like I said, I have had no need to. :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MartinZ on June 22, 2011, 10:15:20 PM
Re: Credit Alert.  I read the web page with the info and have some questions.

1. What information do you have to supply in order to activate it?

Please provide an exact detailed list of information that needs to be supplied including information like Social Security number.

2. Does it start out as a monthly recurring charge or can you set it up initially for only one month?

3. If you decide to stop the service at any time how do you do that?

4. Is this service outsourced to a third party?

If it is outsourced to a third party like a credit agency, please provide the link to that agency.

That are all the questions I have at this time.

Thanks :)

Hi Nesivos,
I am glad that you are interested in this product. Here are the answers:

1. For the CreditAlert Free is needed: Name, Address, Email, DOB(must be over 18), last 4 digits of SSN.
Then to upgrade to the paid Premium version you need to provide also full SSN and your identity is verified by few verification questions to be sure that you are really the person you pretend to be ;-)

2. It's recurring from beginning but there is a standard 30-day moneyback guarantee.(from the first enrollment to the Premium version)

3. You will login to the dashboard at https:/dashboard.ca.avast.com, go to the account settings, and cancel the service.

4. Yes, some part is outsourced by company called ID Watchdog - http://www.idwatchdog.com

Hope this helps
Martin  
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MartinZ on June 22, 2011, 10:17:50 PM
The only place that I see the CreditAlert is under Settings (in the upper toolbar) when you navigate to Maintenance | CreditAlert Settings.  You can disable the popups there.  I haven't dug further.

Thanks Gopher. They didn't make it very obvious. I thought it would have been under "Additional Protection".

You can choose betweeen free or premium alerts.

Terms and Conditions of Credit Alert
http://www.avast.com/terms-credit-alert?p_pro=1&p_vep=6&p_ves=0&p_lqa=0&p_lsu=0&p_lst=0&p_lex=0&p_lng=en&p_lid=en-ww&p_elm=27

EDIT: After registering under settings/maintenance a tab under "Additional Protection" appears.

What exactly is the free registration monitoring?

Below is a screenshot.

This will only be in the paid versions of Avast, right?

Jack

No, it will be in all versions, but actively promoting only in Free so far.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: GreggH on June 22, 2011, 10:44:06 PM
Where is this CreditAlert feature? I am in the US and I don't see any reference to it in the GUI.

- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)

The only place that I see the CreditAlert is under Settings (in the upper toolbar) when you navigate to Maintenance | CreditAlert Settings.  You can disable the popups there.  I haven't dug further.

I did, and got a dialog to register. Only one problem... I can't as I am not in the US but in Canada. Somehow, Avast doesn't seem to know this, and thinks that I am not in Canada.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Gopher John on June 22, 2011, 10:49:46 PM
No, it will be in all versions, but actively promoting only in Free so far.

I disabled the CreditAlert popups in the Settings without registering for it.  Will my Avast install contact ID WatchDog in any fashion during my normal browsing, or when I access my online financial institutions?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MayuraDeSilva on June 22, 2011, 11:01:03 PM
Hi,

Installed from scratch and working seamlessly. Seems like new pre-release has more performance improvement over previous official version.

I Love avast!

Cheers... :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jeepava on June 22, 2011, 11:12:48 PM
The update went fine Free AVAST 6.0.1184 the language french
(XP Professional sp3 - IBM THINKCENTRE 8189)

thank you
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DJBone on June 23, 2011, 12:26:25 AM
There's no hint in the release notes but could it be that the scan performance is much better? A quick scan is about one and a half minutes faster.

DJBone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: mattburles on June 23, 2011, 12:34:06 AM
is there any advantage of this over the previous version for free avast? any bug fixes included?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 23, 2011, 12:35:23 AM
As a paid user, I can not stress enough, that paid users had better not be subjected to pop-ups and advertising from CreditAlert. I have no problem if avast! implements this strategy for the Free version, but if it happens in the paid versions, I will look elsewhere for protection.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DavidR on June 23, 2011, 12:37:43 AM
is there any advantage of this over the previous version for free avast? any bug fixes included?

Read the first post, see highlighted section.

Quote from: Vlk
This is hopefully going to be a smooth service release, designed really just to fix some of the issues of the previous v6.0 builds.

Only the major changes are mentioned in the list in the first post.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DJBone on June 23, 2011, 12:44:34 AM
Only the major changes are mentioned in the list in the first post.

Do you mean that performance improvements were integrated?

DJBone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: mattburles on June 23, 2011, 12:47:15 AM
is there any advantage of this over the previous version for free avast? any bug fixes included?

Read the first post, see highlighted section.

Quote from: Vlk
This is hopefully going to be a smooth service release, designed really just to fix some of the issues of the previous v6.0 builds.

Only the major changes are mentioned in the list in the first post.

it does not say if these bug fixes are for the free or paid version or both?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DJBone on June 23, 2011, 12:49:46 AM
it does not say if these bug fixes are for the free or paid version or both?
These bug fixes are for the bugs in all versions.

DJBone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DavidR on June 23, 2011, 12:57:45 AM
Only the major changes are mentioned in the list in the first post.

Do you mean that performance improvements were integrated?
No I mean exactly what I said read the first post other than what is listed I have no idea what has been incorporated.

I haven't noticed any discernible difference in the Quick scan duration, just ran two quick scans one after the other and both were slower than my last scan before the update, but we are talking seconds so well within any margin of data differences..
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DJBone on June 23, 2011, 01:10:12 AM
1. No I mean exactly what I said read the first post other than what is listed I have no idea what has been incorporated.

2. I haven't noticed any discernible difference in the Quick scan duration, just ran two quick scans one after the other and both were slower than my last scan before the update, but we are talking seconds so well within any margin of data differences..

1. Ok, i thought you have more informations because you wrote "major informations".
2. Before updating the scan time was about 10 minutes now it's about 8 and a half minute. And this was not only by one quick scan.

DJBone

PS: As you read in my signature, my english is not the best.  :( I don't understand everything correctly. Sorry!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: mattburles on June 23, 2011, 01:24:20 AM
either way cant wait for the official release because any performance improvements are welcome! :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: zfactor on June 23, 2011, 02:02:12 AM
As a paid user, I can not stress enough, that paid users had better not be subjected to pop-ups and advertising from CreditAlert. I have no problem if avast! implements this strategy for the Free version, but if it happens in the paid versions, I will look elsewhere for protection.

i LOVE avast but have to agree, honestly this should be something that is part of the custom installer and can be unchecked and NOT installed as i will never use this on any of my systems as well as i personally know people who have had very bad experiences with watchdog in the past...if it becomes intrusive i will look elsewhere, why oh why do companies keep adding junk to great programs (imo)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: hayc59 on June 23, 2011, 02:06:12 AM
Smokin and thanks!!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: corbindoak on June 23, 2011, 02:58:45 AM
I am having a problem.  I installed the new update of avast yesterday as it requested I do so.  After that my computer froze and I had to restart. It still froze.  I restarted in safe mode and uninstalled the new avast.  Problem fixed.  But how can I make it work?  I want to use avast I have been using the free program for years.  I am running windows 7  any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DJBone on June 23, 2011, 03:18:18 AM
I am having a problem.  I installed the new update of avast yesterday as it requested I do so. 
What do you mean? Who tells you to update?

DJBone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jack 1000 on June 23, 2011, 03:21:09 AM
As a paid user, I can not stress enough, that paid users had better not be subjected to pop-ups and advertising from CreditAlert. I have no problem if avast! implements this strategy for the Free version, but if it happens in the paid versions, I will look elsewhere for protection.

i LOVE avast but have to agree, honestly this should be something that is part of the custom installer and can be unchecked and NOT installed as i will never use this on any of my systems as well as i personally know people who have had very bad experiences with watchdog in the past...if it becomes intrusive i will look elsewhere, why oh why do companies keep adding junk to great programs (imo)

+1!

Jack
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jack 1000 on June 23, 2011, 03:28:08 AM
Here is some information about Credit Alert:

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/ID-Watchdog-Inc-Partners-accesswire-3313598591.html?x=0&.v=2

Please let it remain optional, with the easy ability to turn it off and not see pop-ups that it is turned off.  Than, I will stay happy with Avast.

Jack
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 23, 2011, 03:54:06 AM
I am not now, nor will I ever be the least interested in Credit Alert's services. As long as there is a way to either do a custom install, or simply uncheck a box in the settings to disable all alerts from Credit alert, then I am good. But if for one second, I as a paid user have to put up with pop-ups, banners or any other crap from a 3rd party company, I will immediately uninstall avast! and eat the 3yrs remaining on my subscription..........I am less then thrilled with this.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 23, 2011, 03:59:43 AM
I am not now, nor will I ever be the least interested in Credit Alert's services. As long as there is a way to either do a custom install, or simply uncheck a box in the settings to disable all alerts from Credit alert, then I am good. But if for one second as a paid user, I have to put up with pop-ups, banners or any other crap from a 3rd party company, I will immediately uninstall avast! and eat the 3yrs remaining on my subscription..........I am less then thrilled with this.
Well... If I knew I'll get popups, well, I will never say good things about this new feature either ;D
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: hayc59 on June 23, 2011, 04:24:25 AM
Duper so sorry charlie ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: hayc59 on June 23, 2011, 04:25:00 AM
• Introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)
this feature in the free version?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Yanto.Chiang on June 23, 2011, 05:26:43 AM
Hi,

Could someone please tell me what exactly is a "CreditAlert" feature (US customers only)?

Thanks in advance,
T.

Hi Tetsuo,

you can find more information about the CreditAlert feature here:
http://www.avast.com/lp-credit-alert#tab2-1

Basically we will be offering 2 products:
CreditAlert Free  - monitors your credit report and notify via avast! if any change occur
CreditAlert Premium - monitoring + gives you a full access to your credit report + credit scores, from the 3 US credit bureaus (price is set to $9.95/month)

This product(feature) is provided with our partner company ID Watchdog.

Hi Martin,

Just wondering to know whether those features also can used by Indonesian user as well?

And when thiss feature we can see in avast features?

cheer,
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Vlk on June 23, 2011, 08:00:56 AM
It seems that two things are worth explaining:

1. The missing "process" information in the virus alert toaster. This is actually an unintended omission (a bug) - the process information should indeed be there, and will be there in the final version.

2. CreditAlert. I see a lot of discussion about this feature, and also some confusion (probably resulting  from a lack of information from our side). So, let me explain it in a few sentences now. CreditAlert is a completely voluntary service that you actually have to sign up for. The sign up process includes providing part of your social security number as well as a verification of your identity (we don't want other people to be receiving your credit alerts - so as part of the sign up process, you could be asked some tricky question that no one else can answer (similar to e.g. setting up an account in some banks etc)). This basically answers the concerns about the feature being "pushy" (or prominently presented in the avast UI) - it's actually the opposite, you will have to produce some non-trivial activity to enable the feature. Now, once you sign up, you will get an alert whenever your credit changes in a suspicious way. The optional paid version will then allow you to review all the changes in a high level detail, as well as to take some remediation actions if needed.

Now, we fully understand that the feature is not directly related to AV protection, and that the feedback on including this feature into avast may not be 100% positive. But we still thought it might be an interesting value-add for some of our users. We also tried to craft it so that it's pretty much invisible in the UI unless you actually go through the sign-up process.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 23, 2011, 08:20:18 AM
Thanks Vlk! That is really good news regarding the invisibility of CreditAlert within the program, unless the user specifically signs up for it. Your product is top notch from free to AIS, and I was worried about changes for the worse.............I should've had more confidence in avast! ;D
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Asyn on June 23, 2011, 08:38:56 AM
1. The missing "process" information in the virus alert toaster. This is actually an unintended omission (a bug) - the process information should indeed be there, and will be there in the final version.

Great. :)
Thanks for the info,
asyn
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MartinZ on June 23, 2011, 09:18:01 AM

I disabled the CreditAlert popups in the Settings without registering for it.  Will my Avast install contact ID WatchDog in any fashion during my normal browsing, or when I access my online financial institutions?

No, and even if you use the CreditAlert service no information is sent from your PC to ID Watchdog. The information flow is: Credit Bureaus -> ID Watchdog -> avast!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MartinZ on June 23, 2011, 09:27:46 AM

Hi Martin,

Just wondering to know whether those features also can used by Indonesian user as well?

And when thiss feature we can see in avast features?

cheer,

Hi Yanto,

this feature is available in US only so far. Martin
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DavidR on June 23, 2011, 11:11:40 AM
I am having a problem.  I installed the new update of avast yesterday as it requested I do so.  After that my computer froze and I had to restart. It still froze.  I restarted in safe mode and uninstalled the new avast.  Problem fixed.  But how can I make it work?  I want to use avast I have been using the free program for years.  I am running windows 7  any help would be appreciated.

I would suggest you do a clean reinstall of the pre-release version or the current 6.0.1125 version (and wait for the regular release). Personally I would go for a clean install of the 6.0.1184 build.

- Download the latest version of avast, 6.0.1184 link on first post and save it to your HDD, somewhere you can find it again (if you didn't save your last download). Use that when you reinstall.

- Download the avast! Uninstall Utility, aswClear.exe find it here (http://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility) and save it to your HDD (it has uninstall tools for both 5.x and 6.0.x).
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Yanto.Chiang on June 23, 2011, 11:24:07 AM

Hi Martin,

Just wondering to know whether those features also can used by Indonesian user as well?

And when thiss feature we can see in avast features?

cheer,

Hi Martin and Ondrej,

Thanks for all of your explanations.

Know i bit understand about Avast! CreditAlert feature offerings.

cheers,

Hi Yanto,

this feature is available in US only so far. Martin
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jack 1000 on June 23, 2011, 11:56:01 AM
It seems that two things are worth explaining:

1. The missing "process" information in the virus alert toaster. This is actually an unintended omission (a bug) - the process information should indeed be there, and will be there in the final version.

2. CreditAlert. I see a lot of discussion about this feature, and also some confusion (probably resulting  from a lack of information from our side). So, let me explain it in a few sentences now. CreditAlert is a completely voluntary service that you actually have to sign up for. The sign up process includes providing part of your social security number as well as a verification of your identity (we don't want other people to be receiving your credit alerts - so as part of the sign up process, you could be asked some tricky question that no one else can answer (similar to e.g. setting up an account in some banks etc)). This basically answers the concerns about the feature being "pushy" (or prominently presented in the avast UI) - it's actually the opposite, you will have to produce some non-trivial activity to enable the feature. Now, once you sign up, you will get an alert whenever your credit changes in a suspicious way. The optional paid version will then allow you to review all the changes in a high level detail, as well as to take some remediation actions if needed.

Now, we fully understand that the feature is not directly related to AV protection, and that the feedback on including this feature into avast may not be 100% positive. But we still thought it might be an interesting value-add for some of our users. We also tried to craft it so that it's pretty much invisible in the UI unless you actually go through the sign-up process.

Thanks
Vlk

This answered a lot of my questions!  Thanks Vlk!

Jack
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Gopher John on June 23, 2011, 12:18:02 PM

I disabled the CreditAlert popups in the Settings without registering for it.  Will my Avast install contact ID WatchDog in any fashion during my normal browsing, or when I access my online financial institutions?

No, and even if you use the CreditAlert service no information is sent from your PC to ID Watchdog. The information flow is: Credit Bureaus -> ID Watchdog -> avast!

MartinZ,
Your explanation is assuring.  I, and I'm guessing many others, wouldn't want even a security program looking over our shoulders (especially if we'd opted not to enlist) when we're engaged in financial transactions.  Thank you for this information.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 23, 2011, 12:21:30 PM
I believe there might be a bit of a misunderstanding here :)
This feature has nothing to do with your online financial transactions or your bank account, so there's no point in "looking over your shoulder" anyway.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Gopher John on June 23, 2011, 12:29:50 PM
I believe there might be a bit of a misunderstanding here :)
This feature has nothing to do with your online financial transactions or your bank account, so there's no point in "looking over your shoulder" anyway.

Actually, I thought that's what MartinZ explained. :) ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: gilmour on June 23, 2011, 12:43:38 PM
Does anyone else get a UI hang of Avast if they goto Firewall settings/Expert settings and click on Friends?


Avast Internet Security 6.0.1184
Windows 7 SP1
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DJBone on June 23, 2011, 12:48:27 PM
Does anyone else get a UI hang of Avast if they goto Firewall settings/Expert settings and click on Friends?
I can confirm that.

DJBone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Micky86 on June 23, 2011, 01:39:43 PM

Here's the list of the most important changes:
- improved compatibility with Windows Vista SP0/SP1
- attempt to solve the "Windows Media Player using a red skin" problem
- Firewall: improved compatibility with uTorrent
- improved the sample submission process
- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)
- improved load time of WebRep IE plugin
- improvements in the silent installer
- improvements in the sandbox module
- added Thai and Serbian language packs

What's new sandbox or AutoSandbox?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: logos on June 23, 2011, 01:51:31 PM
confirming complete AvastUI freezing and crash happening when clicking on the "friends" tab in firewall advanced settings
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: daitchieboyd72 on June 23, 2011, 04:21:36 PM
i was just wandering if someone could tell me what does it mean when it says when you mouse over the icon it says avast antivirus: attention you are not fully protected. what does that mean. i only had this free trial for two weeks now...please someone help me i don't understand nothing. i will be watching for post. daitchieboyd72@gmail.com
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DavidR on June 23, 2011, 04:29:38 PM
I suggest you remove your email from a publicly available forum unless you particularly like spam.

Not really the place to ask as your question us unrelated to this topic (hijacking), so you should create your own new topic, open this link http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2.0 and click the New Topic button at the top of the page and we will try to help you there.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: pk on June 23, 2011, 04:50:27 PM
@Micky86,

What's new sandbox or AutoSandbox?

- fixed compatibility issue with Vista SP0/SP1 genuine validation
- fixed all known bsods in aswsp.sys (behavior shield), most of them were posted on this forum
- fixed several bsods in sandbox (logging issue; compatibility issue with dynamic disks)
- fixed problem with virtualization of Firefox bookmarks
- improved 64-bit hooking algorithm

not related to sandbox:
- fixed on-access scanning of ntfs streams
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Vladimyr on June 23, 2011, 05:48:11 PM
@Micky86,

What's new sandbox or AutoSandbox?

- fixed compatibility issue with Vista SP0/SP1 genuine validation
- fixed all known bsods in aswsp.sys (behavior shield), most of them were posted on this forum
- fixed several bsods in sandbox (logging issue; compatibility issue with dynamic disks)
- fixed problem with virtualization of Firefox bookmarks
- improved 64-bit hooking algorithm

not related to sandbox:
- fixed on-access scanning of ntfs streams

Hi Pete
Would these fixes include BSODs that occured even when BSh not installed and AutoSandbox disabled?


Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: avadas.de on June 23, 2011, 05:54:56 PM
Hi,

Quote
- improved the sample submission process

what exactly has been changed here? I tried a short test with EICAR, but didn't notice any changes? Is there some technical sending improvement? Anything under the hood?

Furthermore I would like to ask how far the progress with the Windows 8 optimization has proceeded (from the last Redmond meetings)? Will there be an update to avast! 6 or only avast! 7?

Btw. we added the pk's detailed changes to the German translation of the release notes (http://forum.avadas.de/threads/3241-avast!-6.0.1184-BETA) for any German user interested.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DavidR on June 23, 2011, 08:07:53 PM
Must admit I had forgotten about that, but I didn't notice any difference when submitting a possible FP earlier today.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: khagaroth on June 23, 2011, 09:58:27 PM
+1 for the UI hang after clicking on the Friends button in Firewall settings.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: George Yves on June 23, 2011, 10:17:44 PM
One new option isn't translated in the Russian version (see the attached screenshot).

The phrase "Do not use Chrome as аvast! default browser" should be translated as "Не использовать Chrome как браузер по умолчанию в аvast!".

BTW, what is this option for?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: jrace on June 23, 2011, 11:25:29 PM
What a surprise!
I just came back from a few days off in the middle of nowhere, and there was this new prerelease from avast! :-*

I downloaded and updated the last official and it's running smooth as expected. Seems to be a great step forward for all who had their trouble with the last releases. At least in all the posts I did not read about any real difficulties.

But anyway I would also like to get an idea about that new selectable feature: "Do not use Chrome as avast! default browser" (Settings/Troubleshooting).
Could just somebody tell me what it stands for ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Dch48 on June 24, 2011, 12:16:11 AM
I think AIS uses a version of Chrome as the Safe Zone browser.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 24, 2011, 01:09:36 AM
Yes, it does.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 24, 2011, 02:44:06 AM
"Do not use Chrome as avast! default browser" (Settings/Troubleshooting).
Could just somebody tell me what it stands for ??? ??? ???
Hmmm... Should it be there? It was not released to the translators and it's not translated... Seems it slipped out...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Dwarden on June 24, 2011, 03:08:24 AM
i have serious question about the changelog related to freezes and BSOD crashes encoutered with all previous builds of Avast 6
(see forums around there is N threads nearly on daily basis)

i see not a single mention of stability or BSOD fixes in changelog

are they in or we still waiting ?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: George Yves on June 24, 2011, 06:04:54 AM
i see not a single mention of stability or BSOD fixes in changelog

are they in or we still waiting ?
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=80315.msg658672#msg658672
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: avadas.de on June 24, 2011, 11:34:41 AM
Hi DavidR,

Must admit I had forgotten about that, but I didn't notice any difference when submitting a possible FP earlier today.

me neither, therefore I think it is maybe related to "under-the-hood" changes.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Shiw Liang on June 24, 2011, 11:53:51 AM
Upgraded from the previous stable version, no problem at all v.v"
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: George Yves on June 24, 2011, 12:27:59 PM
"Do not use Chrome as avast! default browser" (Settings/Troubleshooting).
Could just somebody tell me what it stands for ??? ??? ???
Hmmm... Should it be there? It was not released to the translators and it's not translated... Seems it slipped out...
Should it be in Avast FREE? As I understand this option is necessary only in paid versions with SafeZone.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: pk on June 24, 2011, 12:33:41 PM
This option isn't intended for SafeZone -- but if you installed Chrome with avast (and this option isn't checked), then webpages opened by avast will not be opened by your default web browser but in Chrome instead.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Rednose on June 24, 2011, 12:53:14 PM
Does anyone else get a UI hang of Avast if they goto Firewall settings/Expert settings and click on Friends?
I can confirm that.

DJBone
confirming complete AvastUI freezing and crash happening when clicking on the "friends" tab in firewall advanced settings

Yes, I can confirm that too.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: dagrev on June 24, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
Having trouble getting FF 5 to run in sandbox.  Crashes when tried.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 24, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
This option isn't intended for SafeZone -- but if you installed Chrome with avast (and this option isn't checked), then webpages opened by avast will not be opened by your default web browser but in Chrome instead.
Please, inform Trevor that this (and any other) string must be released to translators.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 24, 2011, 04:03:43 PM
Does anyone else get a UI hang of Avast if they goto Firewall settings/Expert settings and click on Friends?
I can confirm that.

DJBone
confirming complete AvastUI freezing and crash happening when clicking on the "friends" tab in firewall advanced settings

Yes, I can confirm that too.

Greetz, Red.
Can't test this now as I'm on free version for a while.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: jrace on June 24, 2011, 04:16:06 PM
This option isn't intended for SafeZone -- but if you installed Chrome with avast (and this option isn't checked), then webpages opened by avast will not be opened by your default web browser but in Chrome instead.


Thanks PK for the explanation.

But in that case this feature despite the translation should be greyed out when Chrome is not installed. ::) ???


Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: BrollyLSSJ on June 25, 2011, 12:54:04 AM
Anyone else having the problem, that the computers with Avast installed are not reachable via Windows file share (normal share and administrative share). I noticed it on two XP machines, where I installed it. I also tried the final on one machine with the same result.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: jvidal on June 25, 2011, 01:56:45 AM
Are you talking AV or AIS?
If it is AIS, you must configure the firewall to enable traffic...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: NON on June 25, 2011, 01:44:36 PM
Is there some changes to scanning engine?
Just noticed scanning speed increases dramatically in movie file scanning (finished less than 1 sec with "Test whole files" enabled).
As far as I remember it takes seconds to scan this kind of big files...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 25, 2011, 01:47:51 PM
Yes, though it has nothing to do with the new program build (it's inside of the virus definitions).
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: NON on June 25, 2011, 02:01:55 PM
Yes, though it has nothing to do with the new program build (it's inside of the virus definitions).
Good to hear that.
Thanks igor for clarification and your very fast reply. :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: fishb0t on June 25, 2011, 03:59:36 PM
Yes, though it has nothing to do with the new program build (it's inside of the virus definitions).

ok then it is not a bug that the virus definitions are decreased?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: 12-es_csaj on June 25, 2011, 04:28:12 PM
ok then it is not a bug that the virus definitions are decreased?

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=80451.0
So it's a "spring cleaning"
See this:
https://blog.avast.com/2010/09/06/spring-cleaning-in-our-virus-database/
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Asyn on June 25, 2011, 04:54:30 PM
ok then it is not a bug that the virus definitions are decreased?

No. ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: avadas.de on June 25, 2011, 05:24:50 PM
Hi,

ok then it is not a bug that the virus definitions are decreased?

there are a lot of activities from the virus lab, which aim to optimize the existing signatures and heuristic methods to decrease the number of signtures, but not the ability to detect malware. Maybe you like to read this explanation (http://forum.avadas.de/threads/3233-Win32-SuspBehav-verbessert-pro-aktive-Erkennung), which is just one of those activities. You can also find some more deeper technical description on the avast! blog.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: avadas.de on June 25, 2011, 05:26:13 PM
Hello,

Anyone else having the problem, that the computers with Avast installed are not reachable via Windows file share (normal share and administrative share). I noticed it on two XP machines, where I installed it. I also tried the final on one machine with the same result.

in case of the AIS it might help to enable "Windows Networking" in the firewall packet rules (advanced settings).
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: scrub on June 25, 2011, 07:40:44 PM

we will soon be releasing a new program update of avast. And as usual, we're making it available for public testing a few days before the official release. The version number is 6.0.1184.


when we say few days, how long does it take?  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Asyn on June 25, 2011, 07:50:41 PM
...how long does it take?

Everytime anyone asks it automatically takes one day longer. :P
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MikeBCda on June 25, 2011, 08:07:52 PM
Slightly (or maybe more than slightly) off-topic ... engineers are familiar with an obscure corollary to Murphy's Law that when someone estimates the time a project should take, you double the number of time periods and convert to the next higher time period to get a more realistic figure.  E.g., a "2 week" project will typically take more like 4 months.  ;) :D
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: rnuis on June 25, 2011, 08:22:15 PM
I can't find the NEW creditcard featre anywhere i have looked everywhere in the settings but can't find it , can someone help me please???
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: avadas.de on June 25, 2011, 08:24:11 PM
Hello,

...how long does it take?

Everytime anyone asks it automatically takes one day longer. :P

exactly :)

Guys...asking over and over again doesn't bring the release date any closer. After a pre-release it takes at least some days to process the response of the users. Usually the pre-releases are very stable (from my experience) and therefore it is no problem to use it, if you don't face any problems. Therefore there should be no rush to push out the final update. It doesn't help anyone if an update is pushed out to early and needs another update again to fix the problems of the first one. Therefore please stay calm and let the devs use the time they need.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: George Yves on June 25, 2011, 08:27:35 PM
I can't find the NEW creditcard featre anywhere i have looked everywhere in the settings but can't find it , can someone help me please???
You mean CreditAlert? It's only for US customers.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: rnuis on June 25, 2011, 08:40:33 PM
I can't find the NEW creditcard featre anywhere i have looked everywhere in the settings but can't find it , can someone help me please???
You mean CreditAlert? It's only for US customers.

Ok won't it be there for Dutch customers in the featre?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: mattburles on June 26, 2011, 07:03:09 AM
i honestly hope to see another pre-release before this goes final just so that we get more performance improvements and bug fixes.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: BrollyLSSJ on June 26, 2011, 01:14:59 PM
Are you talking AV or AIS?
If it is AIS, you must configure the firewall to enable traffic...
Sorry for the late answer. I am talking about the free version of Avast. One XP machine got Comodo firewall, the other the plain Windows Firewall.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Arizona on June 26, 2011, 05:56:50 PM
To avast team credit report when you check on report your credit go down each time at end you have no credit.Good job avast to make us have no credit.  VLK,PK,IGOR,MARTINZ.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 26, 2011, 07:00:47 PM
I wonder about that too. I was told by a bank manager, that "Each time a company runs a credit check, your credit rating is effected" and "Don't let a car dealer run a credit check on you, until you are 100% sure you are going to buy the car, and buy it from them".

I don't know if "monitoring" is the same as "checking", but nevertheless, it's just one of many reasons why I won't even consider using CreditAlert.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Arizona on June 26, 2011, 07:16:00 PM
DBone you are right. Hope avast remove it in final.We do not need it. www. credit report.com if you wont to check your credit.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DavidR on June 26, 2011, 07:22:53 PM
It isn't forced upon you, it is there as an option which 'you have to complete' should you wish to take up the offer.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Arizona on June 26, 2011, 07:37:56 PM
DavidR Most people do not know that your credit go down each time.Thay will use it.We do not need it.We.do not need to give our SS# out.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 26, 2011, 08:30:29 PM
And what makes you think that the monitoring is done as a repeated sequence of checks?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: YLAP on June 26, 2011, 08:49:37 PM
OK, now this beta gives BSOD here even for me on Windows 7 32 bit :D aswNdis2.sys, minidump and sys info below.

avast_BSOD_Win7_32bit.rar - 37.2 Kb (http://www.failai.lt/8l4r8i2ibbkf/avast_BSOD_Win7_32bit.rar.htm)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: danny96 on June 26, 2011, 08:51:11 PM
 ??? what is creditalert
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 26, 2011, 09:46:54 PM
??? what is creditalert

Right now it is available for only U.S.A. customers.

What it is right now is a partnership with ID Watchdog.  If you sign up directly with ID Watchdog it costs $19.99 month or $179.99 annually.  Thru avast! you save $5 a year from ID Watchdog's annual fee.  At least that is what it is according to my current understanding


http://www.idwatchdog.com/ (http://www.idwatchdog.com/)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 26, 2011, 10:35:17 PM
And what makes you think that the monitoring is done as a repeated sequence of checks?

I don't know if "monitoring" is the same as "checking", but nevertheless, it's just one of many reasons why I won't even consider using CreditAlert.

Like I said earlier, I have no idea if there is a difference or not. But I do know that I won't take the chance. At least it's an opt-in service, so I can live with it as a paid customer.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Arizona on June 26, 2011, 10:42:13 PM
+1
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Arizona on June 26, 2011, 10:47:46 PM
Need to fix BSOD not ad blot to avast like WebRep an credit report.

I have AIS 6.0.1125.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 26, 2011, 10:52:44 PM
Sorry, Arizona, but your statements don't really make much sense. You are mixing apples and oranges... known BSODs have been fixed, and if you don't like CreditAlert or WebRep, don't use it, or even change the antivirus program if it bothers you that much... it's simple.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 26, 2011, 10:57:11 PM
And what makes you think that the monitoring is done as a repeated sequence of checks?
Like I said earlier, I have no idea if there is a difference or not. But I do know that I won't take the chance. At least it's an opt-in service, so I can live with it as a paid customer.

Well, the question wasn't really meant for you ;)
It's just that this is a 3rd party product which has existed for a while... so I'd say it's reasonable to assume that it's not so vastly stupid to behave according to the Heisenberg principle (i.e. to change the watched value by watching and drag the credit towards zero).
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 26, 2011, 11:00:23 PM
I figured you weren't talking to me, but I thought I'd just elaborate anyway! :P 
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Arizona on June 26, 2011, 11:05:47 PM
Igor And my 2,000+cust my change
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Arizona on June 26, 2011, 11:45:14 PM
Igor I hope Vincent reads all your posts and he fire you.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: pk on June 26, 2011, 11:47:12 PM
bye bye Igor... ;D

arizona, update to 6.0.1184 (bsods are fixed there)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Arizona on June 26, 2011, 11:55:50 PM
I Do not get bsod some of my cust do with 1125  will not put cust in beta an forum do with beta 1184


 PK you are grate.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 26, 2011, 11:57:50 PM
Bye ;)

For... what? For saying that fixing BSODs and adding new features has nothing in common? Or for trying to explain that your ideas of how CreditAlert works are most likely wrong?
Or for suggesting that you should trust your security software, and if you don't... well, you should probably change it for something you do?

Anyway, we're getting off-topic here, so please let's get back on track.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 26, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
I Do not get bsod some of my cust do with 1125  will not put cust in beta an forum do with beta 1184

Well, then wait a few days - until the official release is out.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 27, 2011, 03:13:25 AM
Igor I hope Vincent reads all your posts and he fire you.
Vincent, please, do not fire Igor.
I would miss his great work for avast in the last 10 years :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Vladimyr on June 27, 2011, 05:06:39 AM
No point in sacking igor. He would most likely be replaced by someone else who suffers from the same aversions to illogical assumptions (not excluding my own) and runaway consequence hysteria. ;D
 
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: YLAP on June 27, 2011, 08:27:07 AM
update to 6.0.1184 (bsods are fixed there)

OK, I don't want to start a fire again, but...  ;D I hope firefighters are ready  ;D Igor, any ideas why I've got this one? http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=80315.msg659695#msg659695 I had no BSOD's until beta.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: pk on June 27, 2011, 08:44:07 AM
OK, I don't want to start a fire again, but...  ;D I hope firefighters are ready  ;D Igor, any ideas why I've got this one? http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=80315.msg659695#msg659695 I had no BSOD's until beta.

this bsod was related to utorrent changes in the latest beta, it should be fixed now..
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: black.pogi on June 27, 2011, 09:23:49 AM
if i have the 4.8 version and i want to upgrage using the free version? what will happen to my old license? thanks.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: MartinZ on June 27, 2011, 11:00:04 AM
To avast team credit report when you check on report your credit go down each time at end you have no credit.Good job avast to make us have no credit.  VLK,PK,IGOR,MARTINZ.

Hi DBone and Arizona,
the credit monitoring is done through the ID Watchdog, which has mutual agreements with the 3 US Credit Bureaus. So it's not the same as checking your credit report with a car dealer ;-) The credit is monitored once per 24h, so imagine that each check would lower it..;-D
So...
1. CreditAlert does not influence your credit score
2. It's a optional feature, so if you don't like it, don't use it

Martin
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: sandeep108 on June 27, 2011, 12:37:15 PM
If it is only for US customers, will avast include it in the program code for international users as well?

If so, I will have to seriously think about switching as a paid avast customer after my subscription is over.

I switched to avast from bloated Norton AVG, etc. Unfortunately I am now seeing the same bloat with avast with various features/code included. Probably one can opt out or not opt in, but all the same the program bloat, high resource, registry clogging will be there. All I want is a light fast, uptodate anti-virus program.

Once again please concentrate on your core strength, instead of adding all these useless features.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 27, 2011, 12:43:24 PM
There is only one program, one installer... how would you expect the separation to be done?
As for the "bloating"... if unused, the feature might take some 10KB on your disk, that's it. No resource usage, no registry, no effect on speed for sure.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 27, 2011, 01:30:57 PM
All I want is a light fast, uptodate anti-virus program.
You have it... And very customizable also...

Once again please concentrate on your core strength, instead of adding all these useless features.
If the user can choose, I see no problem. The user can disable, or even not install it.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Harikrishnan on June 27, 2011, 04:15:55 PM
Igor   ``om shanthi om``   Arizona

May God bring peace between You Two..... :-\
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 27, 2011, 04:56:09 PM
There is only one program, one installer... how would you expect the separation to be done?
As for the "bloating"... if unused, the feature might take some 10KB on your disk, that's it. No resource usage, no registry, no effect on speed for sure.


Sorry about that.  In the normal computer parlance you are correct that using only 10KB on your disk is not bloatware.

However, to me bloatware is any additional program or option that comes with the program that is not are not part of the main function of the program regardless of whether you choose to install the additional program or use the feature or not.   While one could make a good argument that credit alert updates and information are part of Internet Security it seems to me to be a bit of a stretch.  Your credit can be messed up by many ways that have nothing to do with the Internet, e.g. stolen mail, creditor error, not paying bills when due or at all, credit company screw up with your database, erroneously reported information to credit companies and so on.   So therefore, I consider the credit alert option to be bloatware.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 27, 2011, 05:50:57 PM
To avast team credit report when you check on report your credit go down each time at end you have no credit.Good job avast to make us have no credit.  VLK,PK,IGOR,MARTINZ.

Hi DBone and Arizona,
the credit monitoring is done through the ID Watchdog, which has mutual agreements with the 3 US Credit Bureaus. So it's not the same as checking your credit report with a car dealer ;-) The credit is monitored once per 24h, so imagine that each check would lower it..;-D
So...
1. CreditAlert does not influence your credit score
2. It's a optional feature, so if you don't like it, don't use it

Martin

Thank you Martin for the clarification. I assumed that "monitoring" was different then "checking", but you know what happens when you ASSume! :D
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: ArtemisF0wl on June 27, 2011, 05:53:59 PM
All I want is a light fast, uptodate anti-virus program.


Avast free   ::)


honestly, i think some of the ppl in this thread should be ashamed.. Avast offers a top notch product;light, fast and effective.. if you dont like it, switch! bashing the avast employees who work hard every day is childish and pointless.  dont want 'bloat' or extra features? switch to clamAV and put a sock in it :-X
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 27, 2011, 06:16:51 PM
However, to me bloatware is any additional program or option that comes with the program that is not are not part of the main function of the program regardless of whether you choose to install the additional program or use the feature or not.   While one could make a good argument that credit alert updates and information are part of Internet Security it seems to me to be a bit of a stretch.  Your credit can be messed up by many ways that have nothing to do with the Internet, e.g. stolen mail, creditor error, not paying bills when due or at all, credit company screw up with your database, erroneously reported information to credit companies and so on.   So therefore, I consider the credit alert option to be bloatware.

I understand your point, though I'd say the question is - what is the main function of the program? I would say you may be putting too much stress on the word "Internet", while some may incline more towards the word "Security" (which is certainly a wide and vague term, I agree).
The Credit Monitor, or at least the premium version, is not just about the credit score - but about many other things (which again don't need to be directly connected to the Internet). It may help you to discover identity thefts - and the big benefit of the "Internet" adjective here is the speed of the discovery (which can certainly help to minimize the damage).

Anyway, today's malware is not about spreading the author's creation for fun anymore, the aim of malware is to steal your money, your data, and possibly your identify (based on the stolen data). Since avast! already tries to protect you against those malicious computer programs, and since it also offers SafeZone to have some protection even in case the first level of protection failed and some malware got in... I don't see it as that a stretch to offer some kind of protection for the second-level failure as well. Sure, your identity may be stolen in other ways, stealing your documents or paper mail... but similarly your computer may be infected with malware by somebody breaking into your house, taking the hard disk out of your computer, planting malicious files there and putting it back (possibly disabling the security software simultaneously, which could hardly do anything against it if not running). So I wouldn't really draw such a thick line between the real and virtual world - especially since those two are getting closer and closer, and the identity theft via "Internet" is likely to increase, not the opposite.

OK, that's most likely the argument you were talking about. I understand that you might see it as a bit of a stretch, but I really don't think it's that a stretch to deserve the word "bloatware"... I mean, come on, it's not a tic-tac-toe or a family tree creator ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 27, 2011, 06:37:30 PM
I thought you might write that.  It is true what you say, but at least for me since I don't borrow money I have no need for Credit services.   Even if my credit went to pot it wouldn't affect me.  So for me it is bloatware.

As far as Internet Identity Theft goes Safe Zone and HTTPS along with changing one's password regularly at one's financial institutions, limiting the number of financial institutions that one uses and checking their balances and activity at least three times a week will pretty much take care of the Identify Theft problem whether it happens on the Net or otherwise.   For example ID Theft can be a problem when using "Debit" cards to purchase items.  I also never do that because of the risk involved.

However, for someone who borrows "buku bucks" or does not do as I suggested above then it would not be bloatware. :)

P.S.  Highly unlikely anyone would break into my house, since I don't have guests over, rarely have a maintenance person inside my home and my home is very difficult to find even if you are looking for it.  Chances of someone breaking into my little home are pretty slim and on top of that they would have to have a good deal of computer expertise.  So the odds of someone messing with my home network from inside my home are pretty slim to say the least.  I also don't use programs like GoToAssist or whatever it is called.

Then again I do a lot of things security wise that most people don't so I agree for the general user Credit Alert is not bloatware.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Dch48 on June 27, 2011, 08:01:50 PM
There is only one program, one installer... how would you expect the separation to be done?
As for the "bloating"... if unused, the feature might take some 10KB on your disk, that's it. No resource usage, no registry, no effect on speed for sure.


Sorry about that.  In the normal computer parlance you are correct that using only 10KB on your disk is not bloatware.

However, to me bloatware is any additional program or option that comes with the program that is not are not part of the main function of the program regardless of whether you choose to install the additional program or use the feature or not.   While one could make a good argument that credit alert updates and information are part of Internet Security it seems to me to be a bit of a stretch.  Your credit can be messed up by many ways that have nothing to do with the Internet, e.g. stolen mail, creditor error, not paying bills when due or at all, credit company screw up with your database, erroneously reported information to credit companies and so on.   So therefore, I consider the credit alert option to be bloatware.


Following that reasoning, you'd have to say that the WebRep component is also bloatware and I would tend to agree with that. If it isn't directly related to security and preventing infection, then maybe it doesn't belong.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 27, 2011, 08:30:32 PM
You are right that it's a bit similar. Yes, WebRep is not about infections in the sense of a malicious piece of computer code that performs something unwanted.

WebRep is about a "higher level" of danger (from the logical point of view, not necessarily in the actual severity or sophistication) - WebRep is about pages where you ordered something, paid for that but never actually received anything, pages where they tried to trick you into doing something you should actually avoid, pages where you registered and you've been spammed ever since, pages you wouldn't want your children to visit... etc. There's nothing wrong with the webpage from the computer point of view (no exploits, no malicious binaries, no hidden frames) - but the (human) intent behind that page might be bad, and WebRep makes it possible for the users to share their experiences with that (thus warning others of the danger) - something that a content scanner cannot see, no matter how sophisticated it is.

So again, I believe it actually is related to security - just not to the "computer code or network traffic"-only security.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jem on June 27, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
You are right that it's a bit similar. Yes, WebRep is not about infections in the sense of a malicious piece of computer code that performs something unwanted.

WebRep is about a "higher level" of danger (from the logical point of view, not necessarily in the actual severity or sophistication) - WebRep is about pages where you ordered something, paid for that but never actually received anything, pages where they tried to trick you into doing something you should actually avoid, pages where you registered and you've been spammed ever since, pages you wouldn't want your children to visit... etc. There's nothing wrong with the webpage from the computer point of view (no exploits, no malicious binaries, no hidden frames) - but the (human) intent behind that page might be bad, and WebRep makes it possible for the users to share their experiences with that (thus warning others of the danger) - something that a content scanner cannot see, no matter how sophisticated it is.

So again, I believe it actually is related to security - just not to the "computer code or network traffic"-only security.

In my view you've just outlined all the reasons why functionality like this should not be included in the core Avast product. If you want, and feel the need for this kind of 'security related information', i.e. not necessarily a threat (and who are Avast or any AV vendor to presuppose 'human intent') then you are free to install such a tool / browser add-on - and there are several out there. There has been so much criticism of AV vendors 'inventing' extra functionality to make their products more appealing and supposedly give them a competitive edge, and I for one would hope that Avast would note that message and not head down this rocky road. It can be very off-putting when the principle thing most users expect from their AV tool, I believe, is protection against real, proven threats or developing threats. You can't protect people from themselves though, thus no AV tool is perfect and by adding this 'fringe' technology to Avast you are risking laying the product open to criticism and devaluing it as a serious security tool going forward. You can go on stretching the 'related to security' reasoning a step too far.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: logos on June 27, 2011, 09:58:50 PM
new build ??? ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 27, 2011, 10:12:53 PM
regardless of whether you choose to install the additional program or use the feature or not.
I disagree. It does regard, it's not regardless in my opinion.

So therefore, I consider the credit alert option to be bloatware.
Don't use it.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 27, 2011, 10:20:40 PM
I suppose it won't be very surprising if I wouldn't agree :)

First, I don't see why one type of threat should be more important or serious than the other.
Second, with all the polymorphism, scrambling and hiding, PUPs and fake AVs - and the resulting heuristics on the scanners side, we're long past the "proven" threats anyway.
Third, you are right that you cannot protect people from themselves - but that includes the "ordinary" virus scanning as well (now I'm referring to people disabling their AV scanners to get to an infected site, filling complex forms and complaining about false positives that are obviously not, etc.)  So we can at least try, or call it all futile and go do something else.
And fourth, I am not sure what "most" users expect from their AV tool, but I'd say that if the numbers were considered, most members on this forum would belong to a small minority of users, with the remaining majority having rather different preferences. But that's just a personal guess for sure.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jem on June 27, 2011, 10:34:41 PM
I suppose it won't be very surprising if I wouldn't agree :)

First, I don't see why one type of threat should be more important or serious than the other.
Second, with all the polymorphism, scrambling and hiding, PUPs and fake AVs - and the resulting heuristics on the scanners side, we're long past the "proven" threats anyway.
Third, you are right that you cannot protect people from themselves - but that includes the "ordinary" virus scanning as well (now I'm referring to people disabling their AV scanners to get to an infected site, filling complex forms and complaining about false positives that are obviously not, etc.)  So we can at least try, or call it all futile and go do something else.
And fourth, I am not sure what "most" users expect from their AV tool, but I'd say that if the numbers were considered, most members on this forum would belong to a small minority of users, with the remaining majority having rather different preferences. But that's just a personal guess for sure.

I agree with most of that. Though 'trying', in my book, means trying to stay one step ahead of the things you mention by developing effective heuristic / behavioural / HIPS analysis techniques + signatures, none of which is futile and in my view Avast have become quite good at. I really don't see how adding features like Webrep and CreditAlert falls into those categories. They are not 'protection technologies' as such and therefore, IMO, not relevant in a security suite.

EDIT: One of the reasons I like this forum is that it's possible to have an intelligent debate on issues like this without being slammed for doing so (unlike some of the 'wilder' forums I know ;))
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 27, 2011, 10:56:17 PM
WebRep makes it possible for the users to share their experiences with that (thus warning others of the danger) - something that a content scanner cannot see, no matter how sophisticated it is.

So again, I believe it actually is related to security - just not to the "computer code or network traffic"-only security.
Fully agree.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 27, 2011, 11:11:13 PM
This should not be included in the core Avast product.
It's not included (bundled with). It's optional.

There has been so much criticism of AV vendors 'inventing' extra functionality to make their products more appealing and supposedly give them a competitive edge
If avast is releasing it for free... ???
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jem on June 27, 2011, 11:13:15 PM
I would, however, like to see this fixed - which I consider to be a bug, as did others:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=77396.msg640902#msg640902
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 27, 2011, 11:15:34 PM
means trying to stay one step ahead of the things you mention by developing effective heuristic / behavioural / HIPS analysis techniques + signatures
They're working on it. SuspBehav signatures recently released for instance, the auto-sandboxing, the future browser sandboxing... they're working on it for sure :)

EDIT: One of the reasons I like this forum is that it's possible to have an intelligent debate on issues like this without being slammed for doing so (unlike some of the 'wilder' forums I know ;))
Of course... If we can't debate, we can't progress :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jem on June 27, 2011, 11:19:27 PM
This should not be included in the core Avast product.
It's not included (bundled with). It's optional.

There has been so much criticism of AV vendors 'inventing' extra functionality to make their products more appealing and supposedly give them a competitive edge
If avast is releasing it for free... ???

The fact that there's a free version has nothing to do with it. Avast would clearly like to attract more users and 'interest' them in upgrading to the Pro version. Offering a free version is an excellent way to get people on board, therefore there is the same aim to make the product compelling. That's no criticism - I'd do the same, but not by building in these fringe features. I hasten to add that it's commendable that Avast offer such a good 'free' AV tool, but I also understand that they are not a registered charity.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jem on June 27, 2011, 11:24:20 PM
They're working on it. SuspBehav signatures recently released for instance, the auto-sandboxing, the future browser sandboxing... they're working on it for sure :)

That's what I'm talking about! The meaningful stuff - IMO.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 27, 2011, 11:26:16 PM
Jem, I was just saying that avast release the antivirus and other features for free.
They're not attracting the users for the pro version with them.
The pro worths what the pro features add (not the free ones) I think.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jem on June 27, 2011, 11:37:33 PM
Jem, I was just saying that avast release the antivirus and other features for free.
They're not attracting the users for the pro version with them.
The pro worths what the pro features add (not the free ones) I think.

OK, well, if I've misread Avast from that point of view then I'll withdraw that analysis. Find it hard to accept though - the Pro version is certainly 'pushed' when the free version is downloaded and then of course it's promoted in the main GUI.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Jem on June 27, 2011, 11:40:02 PM
I would, however, like to see this fixed - which I consider to be a bug, as did others:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=77396.msg640902#msg640902

Apologies for reposting this - my fault for intercepting our 'dialogue' with a change of subject. I'd like to pull it back though for some comment - from Avast themselves if possible.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 27, 2011, 11:43:14 PM
regardless of whether you choose to install the additional program or use the feature or not.
I disagree. It does regard, it's not regardless in my opinion.

So therefore, I consider the credit alert option to be bloatware.
Don't use it.

1.
Quote
However, to me bloatware is any additional program or option that comes with the program that is not are not part of the main function of the program regardless of whether you choose to install the additional program or use the feature or not.

ISTM that are mixing up your pronouns.  I don't think that the program has an opinion on whether it is bloatware or not. :)

2.  Thanks for the suggestion.  However, you are being a bit sarcastic here.  It is obvious from my posts on this subject that I have chosen not to use it because for me it is bloatware.   So your advise is a bit late to the dance, but that is okay I have been there and done it myself :) :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Nesivos on June 27, 2011, 11:50:27 PM
You are right that it's a bit similar. Yes, WebRep is not about infections in the sense of a malicious piece of computer code that performs something unwanted.

WebRep is about a "higher level" of danger (from the logical point of view, not necessarily in the actual severity or sophistication) - WebRep is about pages where you ordered something, paid for that but never actually received anything, pages where they tried to trick you into doing something you should actually avoid, pages where you registered and you've been spammed ever since, pages you wouldn't want your children to visit... etc. There's nothing wrong with the webpage from the computer point of view (no exploits, no malicious binaries, no hidden frames) - but the (human) intent behind that page might be bad, and WebRep makes it possible for the users to share their experiences with that (thus warning others of the danger) - something that a content scanner cannot see, no matter how sophisticated it is.

So again, I believe it actually is related to security - just not to the "computer code or network traffic"-only security.

Thanks for clarification on what WebRep does.  Based upon what you just wrote and my experience with WOT they do different things.  People may be critical of WOT but I have found that when they warn in red on a URL it can be because of malicous software.  I have checked a number of the websites that they warn in red about and have found them to contain malicious software.  I think that they also warn for content but this generates a ton of false positives because a number of webpages that have been identified by WOT in red are not PC websites.  No need to expand on this. :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: George Yves on June 27, 2011, 11:56:50 PM
Aren't you tired yet, guys? I am. Do you really think that CreditAlert is a problem worthy of discussion in this topic? Is it necessary to clutter it up with an endless and senseless chatter?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 28, 2011, 12:20:08 AM
Thanks for clarification on what WebRep does.  Based upon what you just wrote and my experience with WOT they do different things.  People may be critical of WOT but I have found that when they warn in red on a URL it can be because of malicous software.  I have checked a number of the websites that they warn in red about and have found them to contain malicious software.  I think that they also warn for content but this generates a ton of false positives because a number of webpages that have been identified by WOT in red are not PC websites.  No need to expand on this. :)

Well, I'm certainly not saying that sites of suspicious content cannot simultaneously host and push malware - I suppose it's quite likely. But since avast! has Web Shield and Network Shield - which should block access to these sites anyway - WebRep isn't meant to deal with that, but rather focus on the content. (I know there's been a discussion here on whether WebRep should show the infected sites in red or not... I would rather vote for not, or at least have a special symbol/color for that, but I understand that's a questionable point.)
Of course, since WebRep is based on user submissions, the results will never be extremely reliable - but I'd say the users are certainly better in judging the content than performing a malware analysis of the page.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Dch48 on June 28, 2011, 12:36:24 AM
Jem, I was just saying that avast release the antivirus and other features for free.
They're not attracting the users for the pro version with them.
The pro worths what the pro features add (not the free ones) I think.
I don't fully agree with this. Avast clearly (at least partially) offers the free version as a means of making people aware of them and of how good their products are. Then they hope that some of those people will decide to upgrade to the full or pro versions. It's a form of advertising.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 28, 2011, 03:23:31 AM
I don't fully agree with this. Avast clearly (at least partially) offers the free version as a means of making people aware of them and of how good their products are. Then they hope that some of those people will decide to upgrade to the full or pro versions. It's a form of advertising.
Sure. The final objective is conquering another pro user.
But you can't say they're pushing the free version making it better.
You can't trough a stone just because make it better and better and call it bloatware.
You can say the major competitor of avast pro is avast free.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: bri on June 28, 2011, 03:59:17 AM
since installing the ais beta i got this browser(chromium)on my desktop?is this the safezone shortcut?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 28, 2011, 04:09:13 AM
since installing the ais beta i got this browser(chromium)on my desktop?is this the safezone shortcut?
Yes... I've thought this bug was already solved... It is resurrecting :P
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: bri on June 28, 2011, 04:15:29 AM
so when i open that chromium shortcut and do online banking thats using safezone,everything in that browser is isolated from the system correct?tech you say a bug im guessing its not supposed to be there?i would love a safezone shortcut instead of the gadget,thanks bri
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: sandeep108 on June 28, 2011, 06:48:08 AM
I went through some of the posts partly in reply to my post and others' views. Some of them quite immature - do not use it, switch to another AV, etc.

I am making my view known as a paid customer. I and I am sure many others chose avast! as it was a light fast av which did its core job very well. Its resources have been compromised by these additional (and in my view unnecessary features). Avast had huge issues with Dell with initial v6 because of this bloat and some friends did switch to AVG.

I still feel that webrep, credit check, etc. types of features do lead to bloat. After all the code is already installed on my PC, since all I have to do is check a box in the UI. It is not a matter of 10k or 1g.

If at all these features or 'enhancements' for those who want them must be made available as add-ons or plug-ins or better still even as separate programs.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: RejZoR on June 28, 2011, 06:55:38 AM
Bloat this, bloat that. It's not bloat if you can uncheck it during install, these features don't significantly change the size of installer, so how can it be so called "bloat" ?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: CraigB on June 28, 2011, 07:10:15 AM
I went through some of the posts partly in reply to my post and others' views. Some of them quite immature - do not use it, switch to another AV, etc.

I am making my view known as a paid customer. I and I am sure many others chose avast! as it was a light fast av which did its core job very well. Its resources have been compromised by these additional (and in my view unnecessary features). Avast had huge issues with Dell with initial v6 because of this bloat and some friends did switch to AVG.

I still feel that webrep, credit check, etc. types of features do lead to bloat. After all the code is already installed on my PC, since all I have to do is check a box in the UI. It is not a matter of 10k or 1g.

If at all these features or 'enhancements' for those who want them must be made available as add-ons or plug-ins or better still even as separate programs.
I believe you have had your explainations over your so called views on bloatware, as igor mentioned the coding is about 10Kb and without being activated its using no resources and even if it were activated avast would still be using far less resources than any other av so if your not happy with it your free to change to another av because i dont think avast is going to change just for a couple of people who dont know what there talking about, good luck.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Rednose on June 28, 2011, 11:49:11 AM
new build ??? ;)

My source told me not today, but maybe tomorrow.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 28, 2011, 01:15:39 PM
so when i open that chromium shortcut and do online banking thats using safezone,everything in that browser is isolated from the system correct?
No. You're just opening a browser but NOT the SafeZone.
SafeZone needs special opening using the avast icon (I never used the gadgets).
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 28, 2011, 01:23:34 PM
I still feel that webrep, credit check, etc. types of features do lead to bloat.
Not everybody thinks this way.
A quote of Wilders:

Quote from: cm1971
At least they are moving forward. Certain other AV's seem to have stagnated. I just recently started using Avast 6 on a laptop and really like it so far.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=302158
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: US51 on June 28, 2011, 02:29:56 PM
Bloatware is a term that had meaning when HDD's were 20gb or less and RAM 128mb or less...Processer speed measured in Mega rather than Giga...Programs today are built to take advantage of the greatly expanded resources of modern computers...Computers which are being used by people who are far different than the original hobbyists and techies which used to be the "normal" computer user...

These days people who are not "experts" in computerese want something they can set and forget to take care of their PC's security...They are not interested in hacks and workarounds...They just need it to work...People are demanding all in one solutions that they don't have to mess with...Thus the outmoded "bloatware" term comes out of the ancient past...Everything is bloatware compared to 10 years ago...If you want a program to do all these things it's gonna be big...and it's gonna have a flashy GUI compared to the old "command line"...Because that's what the new "normal" user wants...

btw...the new beta is working fine for me...seems to not drag down the startup like before...Congrats!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: rambo1940 on June 28, 2011, 02:37:47 PM
new build ??? ;)

My source told me not today, but maybe tomorrow.

Greetz, Red.

Thanks for keeping us informed
Regards
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: bri on June 28, 2011, 03:38:13 PM
that clears it up for me,thanks tech

so when i open that chromium shortcut and do online banking thats using safezone,everything in that browser is isolated from the system correct?
No. You're just opening a browser but NOT the SafeZone.
SafeZone needs special opening using the avast icon (I never used the gadgets).
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: YLAP on June 28, 2011, 04:43:43 PM
OK, I don't want to start a fire again, but...  ;D I hope firefighters are ready  ;D Igor, any ideas why I've got this one? http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=80315.msg659695#msg659695 I had no BSOD's until beta.
this bsod was related to utorrent changes in the latest beta, it should be fixed now..

One more today - the same problem, I think avast and utorret 3.0 stable (build 25406). I hope it will be fixed with next beta update...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: street_lethal on June 28, 2011, 05:29:25 PM
It would be nice if Avast worked on improving their detection rates and stopped worrying about ID theft and website reputations. I've been using Avast for a long time and I've seen it change and improve, but I have no use for the WebRep plugin(yes I have it disabled)or the credit feature they want to include(yes I'll disable that also, or not register). Some people like it, whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: YLAP on June 28, 2011, 06:50:47 PM
One more today - the same problem, I think avast and utorret 3.0 stable (build 25406). I hope it will be fixed with next beta update...

Second one... That's it, uploading memory dump to FTP. Twice a day is too much  ;D Just went for cold tea, and what I see -  good morning, Blue  ;D ;D
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: pk on June 28, 2011, 06:51:25 PM
One more today - the same problem, I think avast and utorret 3.0 stable (build 25406). I hope it will be fixed with next beta update...

Second one... That's it, uploading memory dump to FTP. Twice a day is too much  ;D Just went for cold tea, and what I see -  good morning, Blue  ;D ;D

not needed, we already got your 2 minidumps -- this bug was fixed today, sorry!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: YLAP on June 28, 2011, 06:57:22 PM
not needed, we already got your 2 minidumps -- this bug was fixed today, sorry!

Damn  ;D Great news, can't wait for update ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: thesilentman on June 28, 2011, 09:42:48 PM
I have not tried this beta yet, but is it's Webrep plugin supporting the new Firefox 5? FF5 is already out a week now.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: YLAP on June 28, 2011, 09:50:23 PM
I have not tried this beta yet, but is it's Webrep plugin supporting the new Firefox 5? FF5 is already out a week now.

Yes, it works... perfectly here  ;D
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: thesilentman on June 28, 2011, 10:17:18 PM
Ok, thanks mate :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: sandeep108 on June 29, 2011, 09:17:41 AM
It would be nice if Avast worked on improving their detection rates and stopped worrying about ID theft and website reputations. I've been using Avast for a long time and I've seen it change and improve, but I have no use for the WebRep plugin(yes I have it disabled)or the credit feature they want to include(yes I'll disable that also, or not register). Some people like it, whatever floats your boat.
Exactly my point. I have webrep disabled and the ID/credit issue does not apply to me. But I read so many posts of PCs being infected inspite of having avast! installed with a standard response of an av cannot catch everything. So I would rather avast concentrate all their resources on virus/threat detection to improve the product instead of adding these features.

Webrep has taken so many program iterations to get it finally working reasonably and now FF5 is released so avast has to work on that. Same with sandboxing / safezone. Sandboxie was always there for people who wanted to browse sandboxed. I do not want it in my AV. So avast resources are being diverted for all this instead of improving detection / heuristics.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 29, 2011, 10:29:36 AM
That's a rather funny idea.
The detections / heuristics is worked on by the virus lab, while the program features are added/maintain by the (basically unrelated) team of developers - a different group of people, different skills. So if you think that not adding new features would have any effect on the detection... sorry, it wouldn't.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: gillest on June 29, 2011, 01:20:08 PM
That's a rather funny idea.
The detections / heuristics is worked on by the virus lab, while the program features are added/maintain by the (basically unrelated) team of developers - a different group of people, different skills. So if you think that not adding new features would have any effect on the detection... sorry, it wouldn't.

I guess the point here is that one could hope that redirecting some of these program features developers resources to work on better detections in the virus lab would make more sense.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 29, 2011, 01:48:43 PM
So I would rather avast concentrate all their resources on virus/threat detection to improve the product instead of adding these features.
And what people think avast team is doing? ???

Webrep has taken so many program iterations to get it finally working reasonably and now FF5 is released so avast has to work on that. Same with sandboxing / safezone. Sandboxie was always there for people who wanted to browse sandboxed. I do not want it in my AV. So avast resources are being diverted for all this instead of improving detection / heuristics.
I won't expect that software improvement requires interaction. Comes and goes...
Sandboxing the browser is a very good protection measure and will add a lot for the users.
By the way, as usual, avast is very very customizable. You will be able to run your browser out of the sandbox if you want, no problem.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: dagrev on June 29, 2011, 02:06:07 PM
Still working good so far.  Page loading is a little slow compared to a few days ago, but that most likely is not an avast issue.  (Firefox was updated about the same time this and could be several other options as well.)

I would like to see a quick scan option in the taskbar icon for a few less clicks to run on.  Yeah, I'm that lazy.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 29, 2011, 02:24:43 PM
That's a rather funny idea.
The detections / heuristics is worked on by the virus lab, while the program features are added/maintain by the (basically unrelated) team of developers - a different group of people, different skills. So if you think that not adding new features would have any effect on the detection... sorry, it wouldn't.

I guess the point here is that one could hope that redirecting some of these program features developers resources to work on better detections in the virus lab would make more sense.

As I said - different people, different skills.
If you were in charge of a hospital and wanted to improve the dental care there - would you redirect your surgeons to help with that? (or vice versa, doesn't really matter)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: thesilentman on June 29, 2011, 02:39:32 PM
That's a rather funny idea.
The detections / heuristics is worked on by the virus lab, while the program features are added/maintain by the (basically unrelated) team of developers - a different group of people, different skills. So if you think that not adding new features would have any effect on the detection... sorry, it wouldn't.

I guess the point here is that one could hope that redirecting some of these program features developers resources to work on better detections in the virus lab would make more sense.

As I said - different people, different skills.
If you were in charge of a hospital and wanted to improve the dental care there - would you redirect your surgeons to help with that? (or vice versa, doesn't really matter)

This example has also another option, though :) , which I would choose If I was running the hospital.

Of course I would NOT send brain surgeons to do dental surgery. That's not their stuff. But if the Hospital's main reputation and objective would be dental surgery, I would invest more money to that department instead into the brain surgery department. It's important to always keep getting better in order to keep your reputation and quality. Other hospitals are not standing still. They have excellent Dentists, too!! ;)

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: igor on June 29, 2011, 02:46:02 PM
The virus lab is certainly hiring new people, and I don't think they're being put behind if any equipment is needed.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: nord on June 29, 2011, 02:54:59 PM
Just wanted to add that I like Avast a lot... I used to only use Norton, but that became true bloatware (for a while) and although they've improved it a lot, I had moved away... went to TrendMicro for a little bit, then the 3 A's... Avg, Avira and Avast... At the end of the day, Avast was the one for me. I still use 4.8 on my wife's computer for now, (little netbook) where an even smaller footprint is a good thing.

Whenever Avast settles down to its 6.1 release, I'll  buy the pro version. V6 is really quite impressive when compared to 4.8, so somebody is doing something right and System Explorer doesn't hate the memory footprint, so...

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: street_lethal on June 29, 2011, 11:12:38 PM
That's a rather funny idea.
The detections / heuristics is worked on by the virus lab, while the program features are added/maintain by the (basically unrelated) team of developers - a different group of people, different skills. So if you think that not adding new features would have any effect on the detection... sorry, it wouldn't.


I guess the point here is that one could hope that redirecting some of these program features developers resources to work on better detections in the virus lab would make more sense.


 Less bells and whistles, better detection rates, nobody cares which group works on it.


Again I'm a long time Avast user and I recommend it all of the time so i'm not trying to slam the Avast team but there's features being added I don't care for. Like I said some people like the features some don't.


Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: rambo1940 on June 30, 2011, 09:13:17 AM
new build ??? ;)

My source told me not today, but maybe tomorrow.

Greetz, Red.

What happened Red?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: asgher on June 30, 2011, 11:35:41 AM
Salam


Thanks Buddy




Regard
Ali Asgher
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Lisandro on June 30, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
Less bells and whistles, better detection rates, nobody cares which group works on it.
Agree.
Just that I don't see any bells and whistles here... Just useful/optional features.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: DBone on June 30, 2011, 06:08:06 PM
Less bells and whistles, better detection rates, nobody cares which group works on it.
Agree.
Just that I don't see any bells and whistles here... Just useful/optional features.

Couldn't agree more Tech. As much as I don't like the CredAlert addition, I love the fact that it's voluntary, and with just a click, I can disable all alerts, and make it like it's not even there. That would be the only feature that I consider a bell/whistle.

I have never paid for an AV before in my life. Then I tried avast! Free for 6 months and liked it so much that I did a trial of AIS, and bought it the same day. :o
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Rednose on June 30, 2011, 09:58:13 PM
new build ??? ;)

My source told me not today, but maybe tomorrow.

Greetz, Red.

What happened Red?

All I know from my first source at Avast! is that they had to fix a network bug.

But I just heard from a different source at Avast! that the new Beta update is ready to be released. So it is up to Vlk now if it will be tonight ;)

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: rambo1940 on June 30, 2011, 10:08:46 PM
Nice one Red
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Vlk on June 30, 2011, 10:41:58 PM
Yep, now updated to 1198 (see the first post of this thread for details).

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on June 30, 2011, 11:16:29 PM
okay thanks, updating now... ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: keloo05 on June 30, 2011, 11:16:55 PM
Vlk, Chrome changed it's icon since version 10.
http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/03/fresh-take-on-icon.html

Wouldn't be nice to see the new updated icon on the WebRep tab?
Thank you for your work on this great antivirus :)

The icon was updated in the new version. Thanks for reading my post.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on June 30, 2011, 11:23:07 PM
opening the "friends" tab in firewall settings doesn't crash Avast anymore 8) ... otherwise not much to say, I didn't have any other problem with the previous version.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on June 30, 2011, 11:25:56 PM
okay maybe something minor, not sure if that's reproducible on all systems but I've had this for a while (not just on this version): some lag while switching from the Application Rules tab to the Network Connections tab... IIRC this has already happened months ago, and that was fixed at the time...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Vlk on June 30, 2011, 11:27:40 PM
okay maybe something minor, not sure if that's reproducible on all systems but I've had this for a while (not just on this version): some lag while switching from the Application Rules tab to the Network Connections tab... IIRC this has already happened months ago, and that was fixed...

I think it was always like this... yeah, there's some activity done there which is causing these delays... I don't think we will do anything about it in this build, but maybe in some of the future program updates.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on June 30, 2011, 11:29:00 PM
ok thx, as said that's a minor thing so no big deal.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jrace on June 30, 2011, 11:42:11 PM
Updated to .1189 -- no complains!  8)
But anyway all the 6-versions so far (Beta and Final) were running smooth on my machine without any encountered bugs.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: avadas.de on June 30, 2011, 11:44:21 PM
Installed and working fine!

Release Notes (http://forum.avadas.de/threads/3241-avast!-6.0.1198-BETA) in the German forums updated accordingly.

Thanks!

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: mattburles on June 30, 2011, 11:46:27 PM
new build ??? ;)

My source told me not today, but maybe tomorrow.

Greetz, Red.

What happened Red?

All I know from my first source at Avast! is that they had to fix a network bug.

But I just heard from a different source at Avast! that the new Beta update is ready to be released. So it is up to Vlk now if it will be tonight ;)

Greetz, Red.

what was the network bug that needed to be fixed?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - 6.0.1184 **
Post by: Rednose on June 30, 2011, 11:54:37 PM
Thnx for the new beta update Ondrej :)

what was the network bug that needed to be fixed?

No idea, they don't tell me everything ;D

Greetz, Red.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on June 30, 2011, 11:56:43 PM
Update from 6.0.1184 UI appears to have gone well just about to reboot.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Gopher John on July 01, 2011, 12:41:13 AM
Just updated Avast Free from 6.0.1184 to 6.0.1198 via AvastUI.  Did a Quick Scan, and all seems to have went well.

Does anyone have a new Scan in the Scan Now tab?  I have one named "? ? ? ?" at the bottom of the list.  I don't remember creating it, and only noticed it after this update.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: JuninhoSlo on July 01, 2011, 12:47:20 AM
Thank you for Avast Internet Security 6.0.1198
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jadinolf on July 01, 2011, 12:49:40 AM
Looking very good.

Thank you Vlk!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on July 01, 2011, 01:11:56 AM
<snip>
Does anyone have a new Scan in the Scan Now tab?  I have one named "? ? ? ?" at the bottom of the list.  I don't remember creating it, and only noticed it after this update.

Not on mine.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DJBone on July 01, 2011, 01:38:30 AM
Does anyone have a new Scan in the Scan Now tab?  I have one named "? ? ? ?" at the bottom of the list.  I don't remember creating it, and only noticed it after this update.
I can't confirm that.

DJBone
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: hayc59 on July 01, 2011, 01:57:42 AM
good load and so far so good
thank you..G
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: ronnycopeh on July 01, 2011, 04:04:24 AM
won't update, tried from the program and from download, still says 6.0.1184 update
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: XP. on July 01, 2011, 04:05:22 AM
mm works good except silent installer:

(http://www.imagengratis.org/images/dibujoavast.jpg)


folders in directory:

(http://www.imagengratis.org/images/dibujolh4ol.jpg)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: nnoa110 on July 01, 2011, 06:22:11 AM
Updated from 6.0.1184 GUI and it's working nicely so far. :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Nesivos on July 01, 2011, 06:43:19 AM
Everything looking good. :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: mantra on July 01, 2011, 07:53:58 AM
thanks

but doesn't fix the pop up bug
i set 0 to disable the pop ups
but it does work
i know there is a game mode , but i would like to shut down the pop ups
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Kid Shamrock on July 01, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
Changes I make to the Sandbox settings won't stick. After clicking ok to confirm the changes, everything goes back to the default settings. Changes made in other modules work fine. Running AIS 6.0.1198 on Win 7 32-bits.  ???
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: RejZoR on July 01, 2011, 09:58:06 AM
Have to check out uTorrent with this one to see if the firewall issue has been resolved. Didn't have time to test the first beta build...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Vlk on July 01, 2011, 10:40:47 AM
mm works good except silent installer:

(http://www.imagengratis.org/images/dibujoavast.jpg)


folders in directory:

(http://www.imagengratis.org/images/dibujolh4ol.jpg)


How do you do the silent install, exactly?
And what language version of Windows do you have?

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: ady4um on July 01, 2011, 11:03:30 AM
thanks

but doesn't fix the pop up bug
i set 0 to disable the pop ups
but it does work
i know there is a game mode , but i would like to shut down the pop ups

Although it's OT, that's not a bug. Pop-ups = zero does NOT mean zero seconds. Leave it at 1 second or more, and change the Status Bar monitoring options (but unfortunately, "Status Bar" monitoring may have bugs; it has bugs in the 6.0.1125 stable).

(For Avast 7.x it could be suggested to make it as an option (or add some "trick", like using "-1" or whatever; but I wouldn't know how it could work when combining it with "status bar monitoring" settings. Just a thought.)

Back to topic now.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: spg SCOTT on July 01, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
I have an exclusion in the FSS for malzilla, which used to work. In the latest versions it doesn't...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jrace on July 01, 2011, 02:05:13 PM

Does anyone have a new Scan in the Scan Now tab?  I have one named "? ? ? ?" at the bottom of the list.  I don't remember creating it, and only noticed it after this update.

Nothing wrong with my system!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Mr.Agent on July 01, 2011, 02:29:00 PM
Does the build fixed the firefox UI bug on the webrep vote page ? There the corners that is strange...

Also if you didnt notified when surfing the UI of avast! you can notice at the scan logs the scroll bar isnt complete.

Maybe you should verify the bug i mentioned long time ago for that icon Delete glitch and exclusions you can notice in down when you got some exclusions there little black things. Also there others which i dont remember happaned too...

PS : Is it normal that translations for most languages are not yet finished in the website for all languages excepted English like where you see that Mac Edition or Server Edition and others products with old 4.8 versions... ?

I dont know if it is fixed yet but its worth to be checked. Other way nice job avast! your a good business keep continue. You can say that you protected alot worldwide people and you should be very happy. ;)

avast! Internet Security 6.0 - French

Mr.Agent
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on July 01, 2011, 03:05:06 PM
CreditAlert monitoring for Non-US users.

I was having a rummage around in the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\AVAST Software\Avast\log folder for something else and found the creditmonitor.log file. Considering this CreditAlert feature is meant to be US customers and is opt-in, see below.

<snip>
Here's the list of the most important changes:
- improved compatibility with Windows Vista SP0/SP1
- attempt to solve the "Windows Media Player using a red skin" problem
- Firewall: improved compatibility with uTorrent
- improved the sample submission process
- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)
<snip>
Thanks
Vlk

Then I wonder, a) as a UK user, b) who hasn't opted in and c) there is no reference anywhere in the UI of Settings for the CreditAlert feature; why the creaditmonitor.log is created and more importantly why there it is trying to start credit monitor thread and why it is constantly rechecking to see if there is a Subscriber ID or if has been an Install Event when the feature isn't/shouldn't be present.

So whilst it appears that it is smart enough to detect that I'm not a US user and not have the feature in the installation, that doesn't appear to have blocked the monitoring event and creation of the creditmonitor.log file and the constant checking.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: XP. on July 01, 2011, 03:07:57 PM
mm works good except silent installer:

(http://www.imagengratis.org/images/dibujoavast.jpg)


folders in directory:

(http://www.imagengratis.org/images/dibujolh4ol.jpg)


How do you do the silent install, exactly?
And what language version of Windows do you have?

Thanks
Vlk

start /wait %systemdrive%\Temp\Avast5\setup_av_free.exe /Silent

or this:

start /wait %systemdrive%\Temp\Avast5\setup_av_free.exe /VERYSILENT /NORESTART /SP-

does not work in any way

my sistem: 5.1.2600 (WinXP RTM) spanish  (up to date! :) )
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Mr.Agent on July 01, 2011, 03:08:44 PM
David i dont see any creditmonitor log only scans logs...

PS : Never mind...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: rickz on July 01, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
Installed and operating fine. Thank You!
Rick
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: NON on July 01, 2011, 04:36:55 PM
CreditAlert monitoring for Non-US users.

I also have a log file named "creditmonitor.log" in "C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\log" directory.
It seems this log is add every OS boot (I have only 4 entries that indicate 6/22 and 6/29). I'm now using 6.0.1184 (not rebooted yet after updating).
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jrace on July 01, 2011, 04:54:22 PM
CreditAlert monitoring for Non-US users.

I was having a rummage around in the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\AVAST Software\Avast\log folder for something else and found the creditmonitor.log file. Considering this CreditAlert feature is meant to be US customers and is opt-in, see below.
.......

Good we talked about it!!!
I have got the same log (C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\log\creditmonitor.log) in the German free version, see below.
How come?  ??? :o ???
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 01, 2011, 05:03:45 PM
"US users" doesn't mean "English version" - you can live in US and have a Chinese version installed.
What is the problem with the log? It basically just says that you didn't register for that option, so nothing is going to happen.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: hondaxlr200 on July 01, 2011, 05:18:54 PM
what will happen to my subscription if I install AIS beta over 6.0.1125?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Gopher John on July 01, 2011, 05:24:14 PM
"US users" doesn't mean "English version" - you can live in US and have a Chinese version installed.
What is the problem with the log? It basically just says that you didn't register for that option, so nothing is going to happen.

The check is benign, I agree.  However, I think that a better option would be to disable even the check, although according to my log it only occurs on Windows Start (or Restart).
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on July 01, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
"US users" doesn't mean "English version" - you can live in US and have a Chinese version installed.
What is the problem with the log? It basically just says that you didn't register for that option, so nothing is going to happen.

The problem is why is it there and active when there is no need for it to be checking when the CreditAlert function isn't available for the non-us customers. The the creation of the log and its constant trying to start the credit monitor, checking and updating of the log

Quote
01/07/2011 12:31:45   (Thread ID: 956)   OK: Try to start credit monitor thread
01/07/2011 12:31:45   (Thread ID: 2076)   OK: Subscriber ID doesn't exist, waiting for install event

If there isn't going to be a CreditAlert available in the program (non-us customers) then there should be a flag to prevent it trying to start the credit monitor thread, the creation of and update of the creditmonitor.log.

Me I don't have a problem with it at all, but I know when people see it they are going to be somewhat more suspicious of it than I; the only reason I raised it is this is a beta build and I don't think the logic fits when the creditalert feature isn't applicable, neither should the logging. You only have to look at the reaction the CreditAlert got when first muted. People will want to know exactly what is being monitored.

So when the creditmonitor.log isn't required because it isn't applicable for non-us customers, why have that logging enabled, raising suspicions.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Gopher John on July 01, 2011, 05:35:04 PM

Does anyone have a new Scan in the Scan Now tab?  I have one named "? ? ? ?" at the bottom of the list.  I don't remember creating it, and only noticed it after this update.

Nothing wrong with my system!


Avast is working fine.

Since DavidR, DJBone, and you have confirmed that the scan is not part of the normal update, it was either a glitch during the update or something that I did (most likely the latter).  I simply deleted that scan.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: NON on July 01, 2011, 05:53:21 PM
"US users" doesn't mean "English version" - you can live in US and have a Chinese version installed.
What is the problem with the log? It basically just says that you didn't register for that option, so nothing is going to happen.
Yeah I myself can live with that, but I also think if this feature is disabled on AvastUI then this logging or checking could be disabled, like DavidR says.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Asyn on July 01, 2011, 06:53:57 PM
what will happen to my subscription if I install AIS beta over 6.0.1125?

It will still work. ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: ady4um on July 01, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
"US users" doesn't mean "English version" - you can live in US and have a Chinese version installed.
What is the problem with the log? It basically just says that you didn't register for that option, so nothing is going to happen.
Yeah I myself can live with that, but I also think if this feature is disabled on AvastUI then this logging or checking could be disabled, like DavidR says.

I think that what DavidR is, generally speaking, "logic" about this issue/comment/suggestion. But I'd like to make it even more strict.

There shouldn't be almost anything related to the new "feature" in "almost" any case.

The "only" case with a log for this "feature" should be when the user actively accepts it.

So, if the user:
A) is not a "US user"; OR,

B1) is a "US-user"; AND
B2) does NOT activates the "feature";

then, at most, the log could include one first line, and that's it, nothing more. Better yet, no log about it, since there is nothing to log.

The log should only exist if the user complies with both conditions simultaneously:
C1) is a "US-user"; AND
C2) the "feature" is/was activated (by the user) at least once.

If the feature was never activated by the user (no matter "US" or other), there is nothing to try/check/test/retest/confirm/connect; hence there is nothing to log.

As DavidR mentioned, this minimizes "questions/doubts/complaints..." about it.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 01, 2011, 09:08:57 PM
There is no reliable way to determine who is a US user and who is not - so there are no "A", "B1" or "C1" conditions.
It's very simple: registered ==> active, not registered ==> disabled.

The log just says "going to check whether the feature is enabled... no it's not."
OK, maybe the log is a bit too verbose, I certainly wouldn't have any problem with hiding those two lines... but that's all.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: RejZoR on July 01, 2011, 10:11:55 PM
I suggest you test compatibility with Raxco PerfectDisk 12 Professional on Windows XP SP3 32bit.
For as long as i had this AIS beta installed, my netbook was grinding HDD badly on startup, everything took ages to open, PerfectDisk couldn't perform boot defrag. After i've removed avast!, everything was working again. I'm donwloading AIS beta again to doublecheck.

EDIT:
Not sure which avast! component exactly is causing it but yeah, i can confirm it's reproducable.
Installed it 3 times and each time after installation, awful HDD grinding and really bad performance. After i've removed it, everything was fine again. The latest stable version however doesn't seem to exhibit such problems...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on July 01, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
There is no reliable way to determine who is a US user and who is not - so there are no "A", "B1" or "C1" conditions.
It's very simple: registered ==> active, not registered ==> disabled.

The log just says "going to check whether the feature is enabled... no it's not."
OK, maybe the log is a bit too verbose, I certainly wouldn't have any problem with hiding those two lines... but that's all.


Well how does the program determine that the CreditAlert function isn't available in the avastUI or the avast Settings. Surely that same detection/determination could prevent the creation of the creditmonitor.log file and the logging.
As you say:
"It's very simple: registered ==> active, not registered ==> disabled", no creation of the file, logging, nothing nada.

Quote
01/07/2011 12:31:45   (Thread ID: 956)   OK: Try to start credit monitor thread
01/07/2011 12:31:45   (Thread ID: 2076)   OK: Subscriber ID doesn't exist, waiting for install event

It isn't present in my installation as I haven't registered as the option wasn't there.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jrace on July 01, 2011, 10:49:39 PM
There is no reliable way to determine who is a US user and who is not - so there are no "A", "B1" or "C1" conditions.
It's very simple: registered ==> active, not registered ==> disabled.

The log just says "going to check whether the feature is enabled... no it's not."
OK, maybe the log is a bit too verbose, I certainly wouldn't have any problem with hiding those two lines... but that's all.


Now I am coming to the limits of my logic!

It says at the beginning of this topic :
"Here's the list of the most important changes:
.....
- introduced new CreditAlert feature (US customers only)
....."
So it is not as you said the US user but the US customer who is supplied with that feature. That tells me if I bye avast! in USA I have the feature and otherwise not.

Consequently for non US customers there is no button, setting, link or whatever in the program interface to get in touch with the sponsoring company to opt for a "Subscriber ID" and use the new CreditAlert feature.

Why do I have a living "creditmonitor.log"?

If somebody says this button or whatever is only in the PRO/AIS version - why do I have a living "creditmonitor.log" in the free version?

Everybody says - ok it it harmless it is just sitting there eating up a few bites and keeps telling me:
"01.07.2011 13:15:05   (Thread ID: 2088)   OK: Try to start credit monitor thread
01.07.2011 13:15:05   (Thread ID: 3188)   OK: Subscriber ID doesn't exist, waiting for install event".

I fully support all the statements of the rest of the gang:
  • I am not supposed to use it.
    I do not like it especially on a computer with online banking installed.
    There must be a way to disable or better delete this part of the program for the rest of the world (non US customers).

I hope there will be a clarification until Final version!


Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 01, 2011, 11:04:49 PM
OK, my bad - the settings in the UI are shown only when the Windows locale is US English. While I don't think it's a very good solution (there are definitely a lot of people in the US who may have a different language set), it's probably good enough for the start, to minimize the confusion.

But OK, those two log lines will be hidden :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jrace on July 01, 2011, 11:14:45 PM
OK, my bad - the settings in the UI are shown only when the Windows locale is US English. While I don't think it's a very good solution (there are definitely a lot of people in the US who may have a different language set), it's probably good enough for the start.

But OK, those two log lines will be hidden :)


I think the best and most honest way should be to make the whole thing a selectable feature during installation with a remark "US Customers only".

In that case -no install ==> no log!  ;D (And not a log with hidden entries ???)

I guess everybody should be happy with that!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 01, 2011, 11:29:09 PM
I'm afraid that would be exactly the same - when translated into the compute code.
Instead of checking whether the feature is registered, the code would be checking whether the feature is installed.

I mean, yes, everybody might be happier, but in reality it doesn't make much sense because it's the same piece of code.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jrace on July 02, 2011, 12:04:06 AM
I'm afraid that would be exactly the same - when translated into the compute code.
Instead of checking whether the feature is registered, the code would be checking whether the feature is installed.

I mean, yes, everybody might be happier, but in reality it doesn't make much sense because it's the same piece of code.

I guess you misunderstood me or may be I am talking just rubbish because I do not understand very much about code.
What I was trying to explain is:
Make the total code for "CreditAlert feature" selectable during installation even the checking routine.
So when you don't install it there will be no "CreditAlert feature"-code, no "Try to start credit monitor thread"-code, no code for checking whether the feature is installed and no code for checking whether "Subscriber ID" exists.
You know code for a credit alert feature on a machine with highly sensitive banking data on it (online banking) that really does not sound too good!

I would love you think it over!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 02, 2011, 12:17:22 AM
OK, a bit more in detail then.

First, I don't understand why a credit alert feature doesn't sound good on a machine with sensitive banking data - when it has absolutely nothing to do with them... no idea.

Second, there has to be a checking whether the feature is installed - if there wasn't, it wouldn't be possible to install that feature, it simply wouldn't exist.

Third, the feature is tiny - it does nearly nothing locally (I mean even if registered/activated). If registered, it only connects to our server occasionally and downloads a status update (without sending any data out there); if the status says there was a change, a popup is shown. Basically all the code is already there in avast! for other purposes (contacting our servers, showing popups, rendering HTML code) - so the feature reuses that code and grows the whole program only an insignificant bit.
The feature is so tiny that making it separable, which means adding some code into avast! setup that would make it possible to add/remove that feature, and making it connectible into the program once installed - could actually make the program bigger (without that feature installed) than it is now, with that feature installed. So... I kinda don't see the point in separating it.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Hawk on July 02, 2011, 12:53:11 AM
Yeah, finally i can use AIS now after a very long time.
No more problems with the firewall,utorrent and DPC latency (bsods etc).
Thanks for fixing.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on July 02, 2011, 01:00:08 AM
OK, a bit more in detail then.

First, I don't understand why a credit alert feature doesn't sound good on a machine with sensitive banking data - when it has absolutely nothing to do with them... no idea.

Second, there has to be a checking whether the feature is installed - if there wasn't, it wouldn't be possible to install that feature, it simply wouldn't exist.

Third, the feature is tiny - it does nearly nothing locally (I mean even if registered/activated). If registered, it only connects to our server occasionally and downloads a status update (without sending any data out there); if the status says there was a change, a popup is shown. Basically all the code is already there in avast! for other purposes (contacting our servers, showing popups, rendering HTML code) - so the feature reuses that code and grows the whole program only an insignificant bit.
The feature is so tiny that making it separable, which means adding some code into avast! setup that would make it possible to add/remove that feature, and making it connectible into the program once installed - could actually make the program bigger (without that feature installed) than it is now, with that feature installed. So... I kinda don't see the point in separating it.

I'm playing devils advocate here, as we all know there are many people who will see this and become suspicious of its purpose/intent, just as it has here when the CreditAlert was first mentioned. There are also people that actually do go digging around in the logs and seeing this new creditmonitor.log file is likely to have the same effect.

I don't believe it has anything to do with physical size, but about how people perceive it, what we/I have been banging on about.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Kid Shamrock on July 02, 2011, 03:36:33 AM
Can we have a break from all the talk about the credit reporting feature? This thread is supposed to be about actual problems with the beta, not about the ethics or desirability of a feature or function of the program. Legitimate problem reports are being drowned out by all this useless debate. Please take it to another thread or to PM, as I for one am tired of hearing it!!  >:(
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Nesivos on July 02, 2011, 06:46:03 AM
I suggest you test compatibility with Raxco PerfectDisk 12 Professional on Windows XP SP3 32bit.
For as long as i had this AIS beta installed, my netbook was grinding HDD badly on startup, everything took ages to open, PerfectDisk couldn't perform boot defrag. After i've removed avast!, everything was working again. I'm donwloading AIS beta again to doublecheck.

EDIT:
Not sure which avast! component exactly is causing it but yeah, i can confirm it's reproducable.
Installed it 3 times and each time after installation, awful HDD grinding and really bad performance. After i've removed it, everything was fine again. The latest stable version however doesn't seem to exhibit such problems...

I used Perfect Disk for years up through PD11 Home Premium.   I thought PD11 HP was buggy and start-up both W7 x32 and x64 took a long time.  I finally dumped it and replaced it with Smart Defrag. (It is free).  I have been using Smart Defrag for a few months and it does the job for me.  A lot lighter on resources and boots and restarts are faster.  JME :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: RejZoR on July 02, 2011, 07:28:25 AM
I suggest you test compatibility with Raxco PerfectDisk 12 Professional on Windows XP SP3 32bit.
For as long as i had this AIS beta installed, my netbook was grinding HDD badly on startup, everything took ages to open, PerfectDisk couldn't perform boot defrag. After i've removed avast!, everything was working again. I'm donwloading AIS beta again to doublecheck.

EDIT:
Not sure which avast! component exactly is causing it but yeah, i can confirm it's reproducable.
Installed it 3 times and each time after installation, awful HDD grinding and really bad performance. After i've removed it, everything was fine again. The latest stable version however doesn't seem to exhibit such problems...

I used Perfect Disk for years up through PD11 Home Premium.   I thought PD11 HP was buggy and start-up both W7 x32 and x64 took a long time.  I finally dumped it and replaced it with Smart Defrag. (It is free).  I have been using Smart Defrag for a few months and it does the job for me.  A lot lighter on resources and boots and restarts are faster.  JME :)

Well, that still doesn't change the fact that PerfectDisk 12 Pro was working fine with current stable version but doesn't with this beta which means there is something wrong with this beta.
Plus you can't just expect all the users not involved here to just stop using PerfectDisk because you happen to prefer SmartDefag. I've tried it and it's not bad but some will just prefer PerfectDisk and if they do, it has to work properly with avast!.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Ashwyn on July 02, 2011, 11:41:14 AM
thx for the update
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jrace on July 02, 2011, 01:27:20 PM
OK, a bit more in detail then.
.......

My last input for your decision,"igor".

To your "First":
It is just a bad feeling.

To your "Second":
 "....., it simply wouldn't exist". That's exactly the point because it simply does not exist for a non "native US English" machine and it does not need to be checked and verified.

To Your "Third":
I don't care about size of code. Here again I can fully support the statements of "DavidR, Reply #286".

Generally I could not nearly follow your logic.
The installation code of avast! seems intelligent enough to find during installation that my machine is not a "native US English" system. It just decided this feature is not usable/installable for a customer with a "native German" system. So it did not install a button or whatever into the GUI to use if wanted the "CreditAlert" feature.

Why the devil must it install a checking routine that checks on every system start or restart whether it has got that thing installed or not when it decided allready during avast! installation this can not be installed?

You might hide the log entries you might even hide the whole log, but since you are fighting hard to leave that "Credit Alert" code in avast! even for users who by definition are not entitled to use it, the bad feelings are getting worse and worse

How would you feel if you enter a foodstore to bye a steak and everytime at the entrance a "Man in Black" (MIB) will check you whether you are entitled to bye an automatic firearm from him although he decided allready not to sell you one and the MIB argues - no checking - no steak?
I guess you would just lean back and use a different store next time to bye your steak and may be even a bottle of beer.

Sorry "igor" this logic sounds to me like a thing from a different universe.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on July 02, 2011, 01:37:04 PM
Can we have a break from all the talk about the credit reporting feature? This thread is supposed to be about actual problems with the beta, not about the ethics or desirability of a feature or function of the program. Legitimate problem reports are being drowned out by all this useless debate. Please take it to another thread or to PM, as I for one am tired of hearing it!!  >:(

Sorry, but it is still a part of the 'legitimate' beta testing, like it or not. As sure as eggs are eggs if it goes out to a regular program update, these forums will start to come alive with topics on this very subject.

We have seen this before in the forums after the release of a new feature on other perhaps as trivial things. And guess who are the ones that will be fending of the questions about it, so it is best to get it cleared up at a beta level before release.

The whole point of the beta testing is that everyone involved in the beta can get feedback in the forums and that can't be achieved shrouded in the darkness of PMs.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 02, 2011, 02:27:30 PM
That's simple - the  "wouldn't exist" means it wouldn't be possible to have it even for US users. There is only one build of avast!, one installer - and it's not going to change (it would make many things rather complicated, both for the users and for us). Therefore, there has to be, and will be, checks for installed features inside (be it the various shields, language modules, Sandbox, SafeZone, firewall, antispam, webrep, Vista gadget... or anything else). It's the same as checking for the version of the operating system - that's also done on every start (instead of having separate installers for Windows 2000, Windows XP before SP2, Windows XP after SP2, Vista 32bit, Vista 64bit... that would be crazy, and you might have to uninstall and install a "new" product after updating your service pack, for example). Or, checking for the installed programs (Is Outlook installed? Fine, let's use the mail-scanning plugin. Is the filesystem NTFS? OK, let's use the persistent cache. Etc...)

The thing is that the mere considering such a check a problem is kinda ridiculous. The program performs thousands of similar checks on every start, new virus definitions regularly add operations that are orders of magnitude bigger and slower than that... and nobody notices. So this common one-microsecond check can hardly fit the MIB analogy, as you aren't bothered by that, and actually have no way of telling whether such a check has happened.
So this is not "fighting hard to leave the code inside" - it's fighting against doing a completely illogical thing (from the programming point of view) which would take effort to implement, increase the complexity of the code (bringing some more bugs), increase the size of the code - and in the end, the result would actually be exactly the same as it was before, just with one additional checkbox visible somewhere.

As for the "bad feeling"... well, not sure what to say about that. I'd probably just point out that the antivirus already checks files on your disks for malware, redirects and scans your network connections for malicious code, checks your e-mail... which is where the sensitive data really are, and nobody seems to have a problem with that. Yet a simple feature which does nothing at all when not registered, and when it is registered it only receives data, doesn't send anything anywhere... is suddenly a problem. I mean, we are trying to protect your data, not to compromise them... but if we (or any other antivirus or security program you might have installed) really turned "to the dark side" and wanted to harvest your private data (or whatever else that this bad feeling might include), it would be rather stupid to add a new suspiciously sounding feature to do that - when all the necessary mechanisms are already there for years.

Anyway, this is not my "decision" (and my work also doesn't include this particular feature), it was just my attempt to explain the technical background (i.e. basically a personal opinion of somebody who knows a bit about avast! internals). However, since it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I suppose that's the last input from me on that topic as well.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: RejZoR on July 02, 2011, 03:01:23 PM
igor, can someone test my PerfectDisk 12 issue? I think it's more important than why CreditAlert is good or is not.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 02, 2011, 03:04:57 PM
I asked the QA guys to check.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: jrace on July 02, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
@ "igor" « Reply #293 on: Today at 14:27:30 »:


Thank you for your responsiveness!

I believe this is about the only forum where you get answers if you like them or not. Even for some kind of emotionally coloured questions.

Regards, jrace.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: bjgood on July 02, 2011, 06:20:53 PM
I've been getting BSOD on both beta 1184 and 1198 just at the end of the install process. This is on Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit. Build 1125 installs fine.

Anyone else?

Thanks.

Later...

Bob
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: pk on July 02, 2011, 06:22:28 PM
I've been getting BSOD on both beta 1184 and 1198 just at the end of the install process. This is on Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit. Build 1125 installs fine.

@bjgood, please send me the latest minidumps (\Windows\Minidump folder) to my email: kurtin@avast.com
thanks
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DBone on July 02, 2011, 06:33:04 PM
That's simple - the  "wouldn't exist" means it wouldn't be possible to have it even for US users. There is only one build of avast!, one installer - and it's not going to change (it would make many things rather complicated, both for the users and for us). Therefore, there has to be, and will be, checks for installed features inside (be it the various shields, language modules, Sandbox, SafeZone, firewall, antispam, webrep, Vista gadget... or anything else). It's the same as checking for the version of the operating system - that's also done on every start (instead of having separate installers for Windows 2000, Windows XP before SP2, Windows XP after SP2, Vista 32bit, Vista 64bit... that would be crazy, and you might have to uninstall and install a "new" product after updating your service pack, for example). Or, checking for the installed programs (Is Outlook installed? Fine, let's use the mail-scanning plugin. Is the filesystem NTFS? OK, let's use the persistent cache. Etc...)

The thing is that the mere considering such a check a problem is kinda ridiculous. The program performs thousands of similar checks on every start, new virus definitions regularly add operations that are orders of magnitude bigger and slower than that... and nobody notices. So this common one-microsecond check can hardly fit the MIB analogy, as you aren't bothered by that, and actually have no way of telling whether such a check has happened.
So this is not "fighting hard to leave the code inside" - it's fighting against doing a completely illogical thing (from the programming point of view) which would take effort to implement, increase the complexity of the code (bringing some more bugs), increase the size of the code - and in the end, the result would actually be exactly the same as it was before, just with one additional checkbox visible somewhere.

As for the "bad feeling"... well, not sure what to say about that. I'd probably just point out that the antivirus already checks files on your disks for malware, redirects and scans your network connections for malicious code, checks your e-mail... which is where the sensitive data really are, and nobody seems to have a problem with that. Yet a simple feature which does nothing at all when not registered, and when it is registered it only receives data, doesn't send anything anywhere... is suddenly a problem. I mean, we are trying to protect your data, not to compromise them... but if we (or any other antivirus or security program you might have installed) really turned "to the dark side" and wanted to harvest your private data (or whatever else that this bad feeling might include), it would be rather stupid to add a new suspiciously sounding feature to do that - when all the necessary mechanisms are already there for years.

Anyway, this is not my "decision" (and my work also doesn't include this particular feature), it was just my attempt to explain the technical background (i.e. basically a personal opinion of somebody who knows a bit about avast! internals). However, since it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I suppose that's the last input from me on that topic as well.


Good stuff igor!
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: spg SCOTT on July 02, 2011, 07:53:20 PM
Am I the only one that is having trouble with exclusions not working?

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=80315.msg661298#msg661298
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on July 02, 2011, 08:11:42 PM
Well the exclusion would have to be on the object, as that is what is being detected. Malzilla.exe is only the process accessing/running the file/object.

Given the object name I rather think you haven't got that excluded and exclusions don't extend to what a file is doing only to the actual file itself.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: spg SCOTT on July 02, 2011, 08:41:12 PM
The exculsion has always worked (the malzilla cache), and is this:

C:\Users\myname\Portableapps\malzilla_1.2.0\cache\*

In the these betas, it doesn't work.
I get a detection on: C:\Users\myname\Portableapps\malzilla_1.2.0\Cache\44d88612fea8a8f36de82e1278abb02

My other exclusion for C:\Suspect fails too...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: aglennon on July 02, 2011, 09:26:03 PM
Hello - Have used Avast forever - never a problem until now.  I'm getting the impression that older systems are no longer going to be able to run Avast.

The BSOD is DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL Stop: 0X000000D1   The BlueScreenView shows Stop code differently for some reason:  Bug Check String is 0x100000d1  Not sure how to read BlueScreen data but the files in pink in lower window show hal.dll, hpt374.sys (hpt366.sys on other pc), ntoskrnl.exe and scsiport.sys

These crashes have occurred repeatedly since updating to 6.0.1125 and even with the new Beta 6.0.1148.  They tend to crash if the Welcome sign-on screen sits for about 10 mins.  Other times random BSOD.  It's the same crashes on two different machines.  Abit IT7 with two 250GB HD's and maxed RAM at 2GB, ATi Radeon 9600.  The other is Abit BE6 with 40GB HD and maxed RAM at 768MB, ATi Radeon 9200.  Two totally different chipsets, both systems have ran fine from day-one.  The only thing they have in common is both are XP Pro (SP3) and they both have Avast, ZoneAlarm Firewall, WinPatrol (did use TeaTimer from Spybot but disabled it to rule out).  I'm suspicious of XP Pro, because the other pcs that are running new Avast fine are an Abit IC7 (XP HOME) and an HP G71 laptop with Win7 64-bit.  No problems whatsoever.

It's the two older machines that have crashed so much that I finally had to give up and remove Avast!  I have fought with this for about three weeks now.  Tried every trick I know.  Have double-checked Windows Update (even installed "optional" updates to be sure) everything available is installed.  Have used SafeMode and Uninstalled Avast and ran the Avast Cleaner, restarted and even manually searched the registry for any remaining avast or alwil entries.  Also tried the Avast "Repair" option.  Have reinstalled 6.0.1125 and 6.0.1148 several times after cleanups.  Made sure both pcs were clean (as they always are) have ran DiskCleanup, Defrag, Scandisk, kept Internet Options cleaned out and ran CCleaner.  Have ran Spybot, Malwarebytes, Superantispyware (each even in SafeMode) and I've ran these disconnected from the Internet, just like I would if I were cleaning out an infected computer.  Have ran Avast Boot-time scans too since it finds the tough malware outside of Windows.

The Abit BE6 is old but I've never had any problems with it.  Yes, it's slow and it's rarely used, but I've always had Avast on it and never a problem until updating to 6.0.1125 and the Beta.  It's odd that the Abit IT7 has the same exact Stop codes, as well.  Why is the Abit IC7 unaffected?  I built each of these Abit systems and have had no hardware issues.  I keep tabs on any driver updates, especially ATi (AMD now) but they rarely release video updates now.  No RAM issues as MemTest86 is clean.

And thanks to all of the years that Avast has protected us so well.  We've never had any trojans/viruses, nothing.  But now, I guess as our machines get older, XP is going to start having issues as websites and applications begin to stop supporting this old O/S and that's when we start having problems.  It'll soon be like trying to get Win98 to work online now.  We can't afford to go out and buy new Windows.  Since both machines that run XP Pro have the same mysterious issue, I tend to think the crashes may have to do with some Windows Update between May and June - just a guess.

Thank You,
Alicia
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: pk on July 02, 2011, 09:27:24 PM
@aglennon, please send me the latest minidumps from \Windows\Minidump folder (kurtin@avast.com). Thanks.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Asyn on July 02, 2011, 09:39:04 PM
...and they both have Avast, ZoneAlarm Firewall...

I would drop ZA.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Nesivos on July 03, 2011, 05:06:08 AM
I suggest you test compatibility with Raxco PerfectDisk 12 Professional on Windows XP SP3 32bit.
For as long as i had this AIS beta installed, my netbook was grinding HDD badly on startup, everything took ages to open, PerfectDisk couldn't perform boot defrag. After i've removed avast!, everything was working again. I'm donwloading AIS beta again to doublecheck.

EDIT:
Not sure which avast! component exactly is causing it but yeah, i can confirm it's reproducable.
Installed it 3 times and each time after installation, awful HDD grinding and really bad performance. After i've removed it, everything was fine again. The latest stable version however doesn't seem to exhibit such problems...

I used Perfect Disk for years up through PD11 Home Premium.   I thought PD11 HP was buggy and start-up both W7 x32 and x64 took a long time.  I finally dumped it and replaced it with Smart Defrag. (It is free).  I have been using Smart Defrag for a few months and it does the job for me.  A lot lighter on resources and boots and restarts are faster.  JME :)

Well, that still doesn't change the fact that PerfectDisk 12 Pro was working fine with current stable version but doesn't with this beta which means there is something wrong with this beta.
Plus you can't just expect all the users not involved here to just stop using PerfectDisk because you happen to prefer SmartDefag. I've tried it and it's not bad but some will just prefer PerfectDisk and if they do, it has to work properly with avast!.

I don't believe in your post that I quoted that you mentioned PD had been working perfectly on computer with a previous version of avast!.  If you had and I had seen it I wouldn't have posted my response.  From all I knew from the post of yours that I quoted you had just starting using PD.

In addition when I used PD11 HP with a previous version of avast! I found PD clunky and it slowed down the computer's start-up etc.  I then switched to Smart Defrag about 3 - 6 months ago and I have not any of the HDD and memory usage problems that I had with PD11 HP and avast!.   

Bottom line:  When I removed PD11 HP my system showed noticeable improvement.  I never had to remove avast!, just replace PD11 HP with Smart Defrag and my computers' performances improved significantly.

Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: RejZoR on July 03, 2011, 08:29:23 AM
Well, i have removed avast! beta after finding this problem and installed back the stable version. It's running just fine as we speak. I've verified it twice. It's not a random glitch that sometimes happens and is gone after you reinstall avast!. Every time i installed this beta along with PD12, HDD LED on netbook wasn't just blinking during startup as usual, it was on continuously for like 5 minutes. Everythng was slow during that time and PD12 interface took like 3 times longer to start with avast! beta installed than without it. And whatever i did it started grinding HDD badly, as much that HDD LED light was again continuously on, which usually never is.
If stable version works fine with PD12 and avast! beta doesn't, there is something wrong with avast! beta.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: NON on July 03, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
Am I the only one that is having trouble with exclusions not working?

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=80315.msg661298#msg661298
I am on the same boat...
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Vladimyr on July 03, 2011, 12:37:54 PM
@aglennon
You're probably not going crazy ;)

I've had a similar ongoing problem with every avast! 6 release on just the one XP Pro SP3 machine (and I'm not running ZA, Asyn). Every other machine I know of with AIS 6.0.1125 is fine, W7, Vista, XP Home & Pro but unfortunately it's my main PC that has the issue and so it's with mixed feelings I report that I've not had a single BSOD in the last few weeks since I've 'temporarily' changed to another AV while waiting for a 'breakthrough' in the next avast! release.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: pk on July 03, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
Am I the only one that is having trouble with exclusions not working?

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=80315.msg661298#msg661298

@spg SCOTT & NON, already fixed, thank you for your feedback!

@Vladimyr, we're working on this off the forum.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on July 03, 2011, 01:06:01 PM
cancelled scheduled full scan is running

I cancelled it earlier today, and at the exact time when it was scheduled to run, I noticed (and still do, as that's now :) )a strong hard disk activity, confirmed by Avastsvc CPU load in task manager. The scan doesn't show in avastUI but it's definitely running.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Vladimyr on July 03, 2011, 02:02:10 PM
@Vladimyr, we're working on this off the forum.

I figured that you were. ;)
I'm not bitter, just disappointed - and seeking to give a slightly more encouraging response to aglennon's problem than Asyn's well-meaning non-solution "drop ZA". (Sorry Asyn :-X )
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: sandeep108 on July 03, 2011, 02:15:39 PM
That's simple - the  "wouldn't exist" means it wouldn't be possible to have it even for US users. There is only one build of avast!, one installer - and it's not going to change (it would make many things rather complicated, both for the users and for us). Therefore, there has to be, and will be, checks for installed features inside (be it the various shields, language modules, Sandbox, SafeZone, firewall, antispam, webrep, Vista gadget... or anything else). It's the same as checking for the version of the operating system - that's also done on every start (instead of having separate installers for Windows 2000, Windows XP before SP2, Windows XP after SP2, Vista 32bit, Vista 64bit... that would be crazy, and you might have to uninstall and install a "new" product after updating your service pack, for example). Or, checking for the installed programs (Is Outlook installed? Fine, let's use the mail-scanning plugin. Is the filesystem NTFS? OK, let's use the persistent cache. Etc...)

The thing is that the mere considering such a check a problem is kinda ridiculous. The program performs thousands of similar checks on every start, new virus definitions regularly add operations that are orders of magnitude bigger and slower than that... and nobody notices. So this common one-microsecond check can hardly fit the MIB analogy, as you aren't bothered by that, and actually have no way of telling whether such a check has happened.
So this is not "fighting hard to leave the code inside" - it's fighting against doing a completely illogical thing (from the programming point of view) which would take effort to implement, increase the complexity of the code (bringing some more bugs), increase the size of the code - and in the end, the result would actually be exactly the same as it was before, just with one additional checkbox visible somewhere.

As for the "bad feeling"... well, not sure what to say about that. I'd probably just point out that the antivirus already checks files on your disks for malware, redirects and scans your network connections for malicious code, checks your e-mail... which is where the sensitive data really are, and nobody seems to have a problem with that. Yet a simple feature which does nothing at all when not registered, and when it is registered it only receives data, doesn't send anything anywhere... is suddenly a problem. I mean, we are trying to protect your data, not to compromise them... but if we (or any other antivirus or security program you might have installed) really turned "to the dark side" and wanted to harvest your private data (or whatever else that this bad feeling might include), it would be rather stupid to add a new suspiciously sounding feature to do that - when all the necessary mechanisms are already there for years.

Anyway, this is not my "decision" (and my work also doesn't include this particular feature), it was just my attempt to explain the technical background (i.e. basically a personal opinion of somebody who knows a bit about avast! internals). However, since it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I suppose that's the last input from me on that topic as well.
You can keep defending this, but I still feel that if you keep adding 10 such features that we do not want, that 1 millisecond becomes 10 and I get another 10 log files hitting my SSD and so on and so forth. Then how is avast different from Norton or AVG who seem to take over me and my system? While I trust avast and have also paid for it, I, DavidR and others outside US feel that this is simply not done.

Please keep the installation code of this feature and others that avast may dream of, completely separate from your core AV program. I really do not want it on my system at all. Initially it was said there is only 10kb of code. And it does not get activated till it is opted in. But then we find that there is a start-up check as well. Then we find that there is a log file as well. Then there is talk of hiding the log file so that we do not know about it. What else is there in this 'feature'? even if not opted in?

I am sorry but this attitude and these replies does not help me to keep trusting avast.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 03, 2011, 02:34:06 PM
Please keep the installation code of this feature and others that avast may dream of, completely separate from your core AV program. I really do not want it on my system at all. Initially it was said there is only 10kb of code. And it does not get activated till it is opted in. But then we find that there is a start-up check as well. Then we find that there is a log file as well. Then there is talk of hiding the log file so that we do not know about it. What else is there in this 'feature'? even if not opted in?

I believe you don't understand what I'm trying to say (or possibly can't imagine how it looks like in the machine code, I don't know).
It doesn't get activated till it's opted in - and the check we're talking about is exactly the check whether it has been opted in or not, i.e. whether it should be activated or not. Turning it into a check "whether it has been installed or not" - is just calling the operation by a different word, without any change into the code. It simply has to be there, no matter how it's called (btw, I was talking about microseconds, not milliseconds, and even that might have been an exaggeration).
OK, this single check might be a bit too verbose in the current build, logging even the fact that it's being performed (which is kinda an overkill) - so the logging will be removed.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Jem on July 03, 2011, 02:42:15 PM
Hopefully I can lighten the mood by asking a daft question? ;) In FSS exclusions I want to exclude a program I have called Codestuff Starter (app that enables you to inspect start-up programs and services). The auto sandbox caught it the first time and I allowed it to start normally on a permanent basis. However, there is a marked lag in starting this program even after avast has been running for a few days and the Starter has been used a number of times. So, clearly avast is not 'learning' that the app is OK and presumably scanning / delaying it when executed. I notice that in 'Exclusions' I cannot point directly to an executable and simply wondered why? I can manually enter the path to 'starter.exe' but I don't understand why I need to do that.

Thanks.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 03, 2011, 02:50:26 PM
It's just that the exclusions selection dialog works on folders (i.e. enters the whole folder into the exclusion list), no special meaning... if you enter the exact file path manually or copy&paste it from somewhere else, the exclusion will work.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Jem on July 03, 2011, 02:56:50 PM
It's just that the exclusions selection dialog works on folders (i.e. enters the whole folder into the exclusion list), no special meaning... if you enter the exact file path manually or copy&paste it from somewhere else, the exclusion will work.

Thanks, would you advise (in my case) just pointing at the executable, or the whole folder which includes a .dll and .ini files?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: igor on July 03, 2011, 03:04:32 PM
That's hard to say - as I don't know what files take so long to scan/emulate.
I'd say try only the executable first and see if it helps.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Jem on July 03, 2011, 03:15:03 PM
That's hard to say - as I don't know what files take so long to scan/emulate.
I'd say try only the executable first and see if it helps.

Thanks - I'll do that.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: YLAP on July 03, 2011, 08:56:03 PM
Two days - zero BSOD's so far  :) great  ;)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Manzo on July 03, 2011, 10:07:26 PM
Thank you. I have been very happy with version 6 and I look forward to trying this.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Chris Thomas on July 04, 2011, 01:27:12 AM
Anyone using Facebook noticed?

I kinda have this problem in chatting and commenting stuff. My comments sometimes never gets posted or the chat message is never received by the recipient. Or I cannot receive theirs.

Most often people are asking me if I am angry for not replying even after they said Hi to me 3 times although i never got a single Hi

Is it the problem with Facebook or Avast or what?

Nice build though, thanks :)
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: Llanziel on July 04, 2011, 02:23:44 AM
Anyone using Facebook noticed?

I kinda have this problem in chatting and commenting stuff. My comments sometimes never gets posted or the chat message is never received by the recipient. Or I cannot receive theirs.

Most often people are asking me if I am angry for not replying even after they said Hi to me 3 times although i never got a single Hi

Is it the problem with Facebook or Avast or what?

Nice build though, thanks :)

It's related with Facebook chat.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on July 04, 2011, 11:19:25 AM
yeah very obviously a FB internal issue ;D ... Avast cannot interfere with this.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: ZZZ7 on July 04, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
Does Avast do program updates of beta versions?

I got a blue update popup telling me to update to 1198,is this the beta or final version?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on July 04, 2011, 05:59:33 PM
Does Avast do program updates of beta versions?

I got a blue update popup telling me to update to 1198,is this the beta or final version?

you shouldn't be prompted to update to a beta version unless you're already running a previous beta build. But well, may be 1198 turned final ??? anyone?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DavidR on July 04, 2011, 06:00:29 PM
Does Avast do program updates of beta versions?

I got a blue update popup telling me to update to 1198,is this the beta or final version?

Yes, if you already have a beta build installed ?
No if you have the regular program build installed. If this is the case then it would be a regular release, but I doubt that as the build version is unlikely to have remained the same as the latest beta build.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: rnuis on July 04, 2011, 09:16:45 PM
why doesn't my Script Shield scan nothing? In every version of Avast my script shield scans nothing how is this possible?
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on July 04, 2011, 09:32:18 PM
why doesn't my Script Shield scan nothing? In every version of Avast my script shield scans nothing how is this possible?

it's been reported that the script shield doesn't work on many systems (including mine). I actually don't bother installing it.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: DBone on July 04, 2011, 10:03:40 PM
Nothing on my machine either, unless I use Windows Media Player.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: YLAP on July 04, 2011, 10:15:09 PM
it's been reported that the script shield doesn't work on many systems (including mine). I actually don't bother installing it.

My log shows it's working.
Title: Re: ** INTRODUCING: NEW BETA VERSION OF AVAST - NOW 6.0.1198 **
Post by: logos on July 04, 2011, 10:43:27 PM
cool.. two items scanned... 8)