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Title: Secunia PSI
Post by: justinlee on July 23, 2011, 05:51:41 PM
Having used Secunia PSI for a bit i am now wondering wether there is actually much need for it. I recently had to reinstall Windows 7 on one of my laptops as the hard drive went (after only a year and a bit  >:( )! i am now wondering whether i should even bother with it anymore as most programs do a pretty good job of updating themselves when they need to.

Just wanted to know other people's opinion on this? I suppose i could use their online scanner instead to save hard disk space. Even with the PSI version i never had it to automatically scan and monitor anyway.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Asyn on July 23, 2011, 06:20:07 PM
Having used Secunia PSI for a bit i am now wondering wether there is actually much need for it.

Not really, imo. It's meant for uninformed users. ;)
Just read the "updates"-thread here and you will be quite well informed.
And, as you said, many programs have autoupdaters included already.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2011, 06:28:53 PM
Having used Secunia PSI for a bit i am now wondering wether there is actually much need for it.

Not really, imo. It's meant for uninformed users. ;)
Just read the "updates"-thread here and you will be quite well informed.
And, as you said, many programs have autoupdaters included already.
I disagree with you. It's a nice program and keeps your most important programs updated.
Checking the update thread is fine but doesn't do much for the novice.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: CraigB on July 23, 2011, 06:30:49 PM
PSI never did much for me, i am to proficient in keeping my system updated.
As Asyn said just read the update sections on the forums or by visiting FileHippo and the like to find the latest updates.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2011, 06:40:48 PM
PSI never did much for me, i am to proficient in keeping my system updated.
As Asyn said just read the update sections on the forums or by visiting FileHippo and the like to find the latest updates.
Why should I search when a reliable program does it for me ???
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Asyn on July 23, 2011, 06:43:31 PM
I disagree with you. It's a nice program and keeps your most important programs updated.
Checking the update thread is fine but doesn't do much for the novice.

I agree with you to disagree with me, but only for the beginners.
Everyone else will get no big gain with using it, imo.
Also, yes: it's a good program and can help many novice users..! But keep in mind, I answered to justinlee, not to anyone else who reads this. ;)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2011, 06:47:16 PM
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But keep in mind, I answered to justinlee, not to anyone else who reads this
Didn't realize it was a private chat.  ;D
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Asyn on July 23, 2011, 06:57:36 PM
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But keep in mind, I answered to justinlee, not to anyone else who reads this
Didn't realize it was a private chat.  ;D

Well, it's no private chat, but I answered to his question. ;)

[OT] @Bob: Why don't you quote the posters name and time of the posting..?? Sorry, but I had to ask this. In some topics it's quite hard to get whom you quote. (Not here, btw.)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2011, 06:59:42 PM
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If my post is directly below the person I'm quoting, it shouldn't be to hard to figure out. :)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: DavidR on July 23, 2011, 07:04:35 PM
@ justinlee
Personally I don't feel it that much of a benefit for me, a) I monitor the >> Updates << topic in the general forum and b) I periodically visit the secunia site and run the OSI scan.

Whilst that is nowhere as comprehensive on the programs that are monitored as PSI, it is mainly dealing with the major ones, e.g. those more likely to be exploited.

I had PSI installed for a while, but I just didn't feel that keeping it up to date and running the scans was that much of a help given what I already do.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Asyn on July 23, 2011, 07:05:09 PM
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If my post is directly below the person I'm quoting, it shouldn't be to hard to figure out. :)

As said, not here, but in other topics it's not that easy. ;)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: CraigB on July 23, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
PSI never did much for me, i am to proficient in keeping my system updated.
As Asyn said just read the update sections on the forums or by visiting FileHippo and the like to find the latest updates.
Why should I search when a reliable program does it for me ???
Why walk when you can drive ? why take the stairs when theres a elevator ? its called being proactive plus i didn't want the program sucking up resources and i would usually have updated some of my programs or drivers weeks before PSI would notify since i have two systems that are virtually identical and i tested this with PSI on one and myself looking after the other.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Para-Noid on July 23, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
For what it's worth, I got rid of Secunia PSI a long time ago. It is not that difficult to keep software up to date. You wouldn't believe how many software authors provide "update" buttons with their software. Is it a hard task to click on the button? This is something even a novice can do.  :)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: DarkMasters on July 23, 2011, 10:50:03 PM
Never install it as it is unneeded. This application meant for someone who:
1. Having little knowledge of how to download and installing update.
2. Ignorant of updating their software.
3. Lazy

Besides, sometimes the update version of software introduce you to a new bug or problem. Sometimes it's better to pass an update and wait until next major update or better update to be released.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Lisandro on July 23, 2011, 11:46:40 PM
Lee, you've caught my mind... Secunia must do a better job or it won't be running in my computer anymore.
The most "dangerous" applications are being automatically update now. It's not worthing to run Secunia anymore...
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: MAG on July 24, 2011, 10:56:22 AM
This application meant for someone who:
1. Having little knowledge of how to download and installing update.
2. Ignorant of updating their software.
3. Lazy

That must be me then - I have it.

I use it once a month to check that I have succeeded in keeping everything up to date. It takes about 2 minutes.

Occasionally it finds something that I haven't updated.

It also sometimes finds older versions (often of flash) that weren't removed despite me having updated.

I think I'll keep it.

Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: YoKenny on July 24, 2011, 02:46:40 PM
This application meant for someone who:
1. Having little knowledge of how to download and installing update.
2. Ignorant of updating their software.
3. Lazy

That must be me then - I have it.

I use it once a month to check that I have succeeded in keeping everything up to date. It takes about 2 minutes.

Occasionally it finds something that I haven't updated.

It also sometimes finds older versions (often of flash) that weren't removed despite me having updated.

I think I'll keep it.
I have it and I'm not lazy nor have little knowledge about updating software but is good at finding old remnants of Flash that are not properly removed.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: justinlee on July 24, 2011, 03:14:13 PM
Thanks for all your replies. I agree that it is probably more use to the novice user and yes nearly all programs will display a pop-up when an update becomes available. I think it's more useful for people who want their programs constantly monitored and updated automatically.

Personally, i prefer to be alerted by the program itself when an update is available and install it myself.

Although i also agree it is very good on the flash updates and alerts you of an update even before Adobe does.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Asyn on July 24, 2011, 03:36:43 PM
1. Thanks for all your replies.

2. Although i also agree it is very good on the flash updates and alerts you of an update even before Adobe does.

1. You're welcome..!
2. The forum is (usually) even quicker. ;)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Lisandro on July 24, 2011, 09:24:46 PM
But is good at finding old remnants of Flash that are not properly removed.
Agree.
But seems too much for just flash... a resident for only flash remains? ???
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: bob3160 on July 24, 2011, 09:47:19 PM
No resident I simply use the online app.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Asyn on July 24, 2011, 09:49:36 PM
No resident I simply use the online app.

So you changed your mind..? ;) (Reply #2)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: bob3160 on July 24, 2011, 09:53:54 PM
No resident I simply use the online app.

So you changed your mind..? ;) (Reply #2)
No my comment where always about the online app.
I've never used the resident program.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Asyn on July 24, 2011, 10:06:57 PM
No my comment where always about the online app.
I've never used the resident program.

I see.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: George Yves on February 08, 2012, 07:03:07 PM
I can't understand what has happened to the tray icon of my Secunia PSI. It doesn't change its colour and there are no pop-ups saying how many per cent of updated programmes I have.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: YoKenny on February 09, 2012, 01:44:39 AM
I can't understand what has happened to the tray icon of my Secunia PSI. It doesn't change its colour and there are no pop-ups saying how many per cent of updated programmes I have.
Move your mouse pointer over the tray icon and it will show you the Secunia PSI score then start it to see what you need updated.
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: SpeedyPC on February 09, 2012, 02:41:48 AM
I don't have automatic program update running using Secunia PSI, I prefer to have a little warning to remind me to update while I manually do it that way so I know what's been updated onto my PC without knowing behind my back ;)

It safer than been sorry ;) :D
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: George Yves on February 09, 2012, 08:13:41 PM
Move your mouse pointer over the tray icon and it will show you the Secunia PSI score then start it to see what you need updated.
The tray icon must change its colour depending on the score but in my tray it remains red. When I opened the main window it shows that I have 100%. And the pop-up only says: "Secunia PSI Tray".
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: Hermite15 on February 09, 2012, 08:25:20 PM
I don't always run secunia, and I don't have it running in the background, but it's a fantastic piece of software. Not just for beginners btw... it will indeed avoid you the hassle to check every single programs that does not auto update, and there are quite a few... most of them.

important: this situation should take an end with Windows 8 and Windows Store ;)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: YoKenny on February 10, 2012, 03:59:39 PM
Move your mouse pointer over the tray icon and it will show you the Secunia PSI score then start it to see what you need updated.
The tray icon must change its colour depending on the score but in my tray it remains red. When I opened the main window it shows that I have 100%. And the pop-up only says: "Secunia PSI Tray".
That's good!   8)
Title: Re: Secunia PSI
Post by: George Yves on February 10, 2012, 06:08:39 PM
YoKenny
Sorry?  ???