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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: Hard_ROCKER on July 30, 2011, 06:10:50 PM
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Okay people. I stumbled upon this while searching for ways to improve the boot time speed on Windows 7. In the old days of XP(for me it's old days because i dumped XP almost 5 yrs ago) we had the excellent Bootvis utility that we could use to speed up the boot process. Bootvis does not work on Vista/7 machines though and i was kinda sad that there wasn't a similar program for Vista/7, well at least that is what i thought.
Anway i followed the instructions from this thread on MSFN boards to get the Windows Performance Toolkit:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/146919-install-the-windows-performance-tools-kit/
And then i followed the instructions in this thread:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/140262-how-to-speed-up-boot-process-under-windows-vista-or-windows-7/
So after doing this, to my amazement my boot times went down considerably !
Just wanted to share this with the avast! community and would be interested to hear about your experiences with this procedure, was it as successful for you as it was for me ? My PC now reboots and gets back to a completely usable state in a blink of an eye. Well almost. ;D
EDIT: Just a warning, it takes a really long time to complete all this but to my mind, it's really worth it.
EDIT2: A script that measures your restart time. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/720-restart-time.html
(http://www.shrani.si/f/g/di/1AXEgrtf/restart.png)
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I'm happy with my boot time, from boot to browsing the web is 1 minute 5 seconds, & that's XP on a 7 year old computer.
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This is for Windows Vista\7. For XP you need BootVis:
Instructions:
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/step-by-step-use-bootvis-to-improve-xp-boot-performance/5034622
Download:
http://majorgeeks.com/BootVis_d664.html
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I went from 45 to 29 seconds - not too shabby ;D
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Nice ! :)
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Testing mine also...
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I went from 45 to 29 seconds - not too shabby ;D
My Windows 7 system boots up a lot faster now! :)
Thanks Darth.Mikey :)
It took 6 re-boots for it to set itself up. :o
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I only had to install the one hotfix to improve boot time from here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2510636 , not exactly sure of the time but has roughly taken about a third of the startup time, about 25-30 seconds to start browsing :)
Thank for the links Darth.Mikey, this one hot fix seems to do what the other way mentioned does but alot simpler ;D
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@YoKenny: You're welcome. Yeah it takes 6 reboots but as i said i think the end result is well worth it. :)
Now your PC will be restarted 6 times. After the second reboot the MS defragmentation program is running and is placing the files into an optimized layout, so that Windows will boot up faster (for the description read what ReadyBoot is). The last Reboots are training of readyBoot. After the training is finished, you'll notice a huge improvement in startup.
Also please note this:
Note! DON'T USE OTHER DEFRAGMENTATION PROGRAMS AFTER THE OPTIMIZATION, USE ONLY THE INCLUDED MS TOOL, BECAUSE EVERY TOOL PLACES THE FILES AT A DIFFERENT OFFSET ON YOUR HDD, BECAUSE ALL TOOL THINK THEY KNOW IT BETTER!
Just for testing purposes i let Puran Defrag do it's optimization run after doing this procedure and my boot times rose about 10 seconds. I redid the WPT method and the boot times again went down. From now on i am only running Windows Defrag on my system partition. That doesn't mess up the optimization that WPT put in place.
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@craigb: I already had that hotfix installed before doing the above procedure. That hotfix does not do the same thing as the WPT method. :)
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@craigb: I already had that hotfix installed before doing the above procedure. That hotfix does not do the same thing as the WPT method. :)
Well not the exact same thing, just speeding up the boot time is what i mean, but that on its own sure has made a difference.
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I believe that. It did the same over here. :)
BTW craigb and essexboy, what is up with these huge avatars ?? :o ;D
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I believe that. It did the same over here. :)
BTW craigb and essexboy, what is up with these huge avatars ?? :o ;D
Tech's and essexboy's are bigger than mine and DavidR's ;)
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Okay, something is wrong here on my end for sure...
Check this out:
(http://www.shrani.si/f/i/QT/3hQ4nmSs/weirdavatars.png)(http://www.shrani.si/f/2g/49/1Q8kV8ow/weirdavatars2.png)
WTF ??! :o ???
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And on IE9 it's normal:
(http://www.shrani.si/f/2V/el/4dxvNjaX/normalavatars2.png)(http://www.shrani.si/f/3g/mN/1jEfLbut/normalavatars.png)
EDIT: I figured it out. The problem comes when i run Chrome in avast!'s sandbox, when i run Chrome normally the avatars work fine. Strange problem. Have to report that to pk i guess.
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Very strange ???
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My restart time (different from boot time) was reduced from 122 seconds to 81.
Seems a good improvement for 40s !
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Glad to hear that Tech ! Yeah that's quite a difference. :)
@craigb: I am going to send an email to pk, he should be able to explain it. Besides i also have a few questions with the sandbox that i want to ask him about anyway.
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Hmmmmm, seems to me that 1 thing can't be all things. So if you guys are optimizing file placement for the fastest startup, then what it this file placement doing to effect the speed of the computer once it's booted?? Most of the after market defragers place files in a certain order, and at the fastest part of the disc for the fastest operation of the machine, but that might not be the best placement for boot time races. Faster machine response is what we are all shooting for...........Right??
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I was never able to get past the second boot. Always timed out on the attempt to
defrag the computer.
However, what ever it did in the first two stages greatly improved the boot up time.
Can't tell you by how much but can only tell by actually judging how long it used to take
and how quickly I now have all of my goodies loaded. ;D ;D
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20110801-rdvo-9kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20110801-rdvo-9kb)
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I was never able to get past the second boot. Always timed out on the attempt to
defrag the computer.
I've got the same.
First time it went until 6... but not finished.
Second gone 6 and then, suddenly, _1 again...
I never boot my computer that much in so few time ;D
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Bob, seeing the picture now, I strongly recommend you Startup Delayer.
For us, that have a lot of goodies, it is a must have imho.
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You can do the same thing using Soluto see link http://www.soluto.com/ (http://www.soluto.com/)
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You can do the same thing using Soluto see link http://www.soluto.com/ (http://www.soluto.com/)
Not really, This speed up utility didn't work at all till I removed Soluto.
Once Soluto was removed, I was able to run this speed up utility at least through the first 2 steps.
Start up delayer only delays the inevitable. It doesn't take that long to load all my goodies and I simply
do other things while they load. :)
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Start up delayer only delays the inevitable. It doesn't take that long to load all my goodies and I simply
do other things while they load. :)
Sure, if you want them running, they need to start.
The problem (and the solution) is that you don't need all of them at the very early beginning. You can just delay some of them and start to use your computer responsively much earlier.
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Start up delayer only delays the inevitable. It doesn't take that long to load all my goodies and I simply
do other things while they load. :)
Sure, if you want them running, they need to start.
The problem (and the solution) is that you don't need all of them at the very early beginning. You can just delay some of them and start to use your computer responsively much earlier.
Thanks Tech,
I know how it works and it's something I can already do through Winpatrol without having to install
another program. I still prefer to do it my way. Users choice. :)
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Sure. No problems of course.