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Title: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: Pondus on July 31, 2011, 03:08:28 PM
for those interested   :o

http://usdebt.kleptocracy.us/
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: mathboyx215 on July 31, 2011, 04:04:59 PM
it is truly a shame that the us government has piled up so much debt, and the people in the congress still have not struck down a deal on what to cut.

Here is a plan suggested by 2012 presidential Candidate Ron Paul
http://attka.com/2011/07/31/ron-paul-to-congress-we-owe-1-6-trillion-to-the-federal-reserve-but-thats-not-real-debt/
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: bob3160 on July 31, 2011, 04:17:23 PM
It's time Uncle Sam learned to live within it's means.  >:(
All of it's citizens are expected to do it.
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: Gargamel360 on July 31, 2011, 05:39:21 PM
Isn't that unfunded liabilities stack nice to look at ( :P ), the mountain of tax dollars people paid in that are simply gone before they ever paid in, when they are supposed to be there waiting when they are needed.
It's time Uncle Sam learned to live within it's means.  >:(  All of it's citizens are expected to do it.
It is our job to hold them accountable, Bob.  You can try and blame the politicians, but really, we elect these wishy-washy wimps who wont take a hard stand on anything because thats how we like it.  Much like if children were to elect a nanny for day care, who would they choose?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/FrankAvruchasBozo.JPG)
I used to get irritated at global perceptions of my country as spoiled children driving an expensive yacht around a bay, with no regard to the wake they created and how it affected others.  But the proof is undeniable.  It is a pretty sad example we set with such behavior. 

Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: Pondus on July 31, 2011, 05:51:56 PM
we are lucky over here, we put all the oil money in a fund for as long as there is something to pump....but i guess this is only a small dropp for Uncle Sam

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2008/pol070908a.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11571650
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: rdmaloyjr on July 31, 2011, 06:34:00 PM
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It's time Uncle Sam learned to live within it's means.

Bob,

You're wrong!  Uncle Sam should have learned to live within it's means many years ago.
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: bob3160 on July 31, 2011, 07:16:28 PM
Isn't that unfunded liabilities stack nice to look at ( :P ), the mountain of tax dollars people paid in that are simply gone before they ever paid in, when they are supposed to be there waiting when they are needed.
It's time Uncle Sam learned to live within it's means.  >:(  All of it's citizens are expected to do it.
It is our job to hold them accountable, Bob.  You can try and blame the politicians, but really, we elect these wishy-washy wimps who wont take a hard stand on anything because thats how we like it.  Much like if children were to elect a nanny for day care, who would they choose?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/FrankAvruchasBozo.JPG)
I used to get irritated at global perceptions of my country as spoiled children driving an expensive yacht around a bay, with no regard to the wake they created and how it affected others.  But the proof is undeniable.  It is a pretty sad example we set with such behavior. 



The ones I voted for aren't in office. :'( :'(  ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: YoKenny on July 31, 2011, 07:24:50 PM
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It's time Uncle Sam learned to live within it's means.

Bob,

You're wrong!  Uncle Sam should have learned to live within it's means many years ago.
With midia moguls like Conrad Black helping to stuff his pockets at the expense of the general public they are easy targets:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Black

Witness the Meltdown in 2008 where everyone was thinking that there was no end to prosperity:
http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/meltdown
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: bob3160 on July 31, 2011, 07:26:39 PM
Please let's not turn this into a political debate.
If that's where we're headed, then please let someone lock this thread NOW.  :)
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: Para-Noid on August 01, 2011, 12:00:15 AM
Our debt is a disgrace. So is using the Twin Towers. 9/11 we will never forget.  :'(
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 01, 2011, 11:24:09 AM
Here is a better site to see the Real Time Debt of the country.

http://www.usdebtclock.org
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 01, 2011, 03:28:33 PM
The currency of my country is linked with the dollar. So, you guy's inflation is carried down here. I blame your government for it :P
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2011, 07:30:57 PM
The currency of my country is linked with the dollar. So, you guy's inflation is carried down here. I blame your government for it :P
In case you're interested, All Currencies are linked.
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 01, 2011, 07:38:30 PM
The currency of my country is linked with the dollar. So, you guy's inflation is carried down here. I blame your government for it :P
In case you're interested, All Currencies are linked.

What I mean was 'Pegged with the dollar'

This could give some light from the perspective of someone living in the GCC

The food prices here have risen tremendously...and the government even raised prices of petrol although this is an oil producing country.

http://gulfnews.com/business/economy/dollar-peg-at-the-crossroads-1.96555

http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/qatar/160721-us-crisis-seen-helping-fund-flow-in-gcc.html
Title: Re: A Visualization of United States dept
Post by: rdmaloyjr on August 03, 2011, 01:22:24 AM
Total economic confusion is about to hit Europe.

Japan will be next, then the USA & Canada.

The rest of the world will fall like dominos.

When Europe falls the USA will try to shore up it's economy,

but it will backfire.  Near panic decisions will be made.

Welcome to the next Great Depression, bigger & deeper than the 1930's.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43988195