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Title: No notification about new program updates
Post by: RejZoR on November 02, 2004, 11:25:32 PM
I mean is this normal? I hear that there is 505 build (i'm using build 504),but when i connected to net,avast! didn't notify me about this.

I'm using ADSL (PPPoE). This is ADSL connection which requires dialup similar login.
Program update is set to "Ask when available"
I only connect to net using dialup is unchecked
My computer is permanently connected is also unchecked.

Should i change my settings or am i missing something?
Thanks
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Eddy on November 02, 2004, 11:44:14 PM
I got the 505 already. But isn't it so that Alwil now spreads the distribution of new versions out over a week to spread the server load? (new program versions that is)
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: RejZoR on November 02, 2004, 11:46:28 PM
Well if i try to update manually i get cannot contact server error grrrrrr.
If i ping cat.asw.cz i get response,but if i ping its IP i get no response.
Whats wrong!?

Error log attached
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: toadbee on November 02, 2004, 11:46:40 PM
I got the update (automatically) after RejZoR's post...?

Did you try Manually? you might have just missed it automatically, with the way the updater works.  ???
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 02, 2004, 11:50:29 PM
I've got notification as usuall (PUSHED UPDATE), installed it without any problems, asked me to reboot the system... rebooted, and everything seems perfect...

EDIT:

Quote
I'm using ADSL (PPPoE). This is ADSL connection which requires dialup similar login.
Program update is set to "Ask when available"
I only connect to net using dialup is unchecked
My computer is permanently connected is also unchecked.

I am also using ADSL (PPPoE), but I'm connecting through my router, so I don't have to dial, enter my password and blah, blah, blah... I am connected 24/7, and if sometimes for any reason I turn off my computer, next time when I log into Windows, my connection is right here... I just have to open my mail client or IE, or whatever...

Btw, "My computer is permanently connected" is checked here.
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: RejZoR on November 02, 2004, 11:54:03 PM
Strange. I forced avast! to restart with my AEC and all the sudden it updated without any problems automatically.

Oh well.
Does this blue box about new version popup only once or more times (if you have set to Ask if available) ?
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 03, 2004, 01:07:12 AM
I mean is this normal? I hear that there is 505 build (i'm using build 504),but when i connected to net, avast! didn't notify me about this.

I think beta version are not annouced as normal program updates as the users of the version 4.1 should not update it  8)
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 03, 2004, 02:29:36 AM
Well, I'm telling you I've got e-mail notification (pushed update) + avast! notification blue window from the system tray...

RejZor is not 4.1 user. If I remember well, he is using 4.5 beta from the very first day (just as me)...
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 03, 2004, 02:33:20 AM
Well, I'm telling you I've got e-mail notification (pushed update) + avast! notification blue window from the system tray...

RejZor is not 4.1 user. If I remember well, he is using 4.5 beta from the very first day (just as me)...

I'm not saying that he's not using 4.5 beta.
I'm trying to say what I think it's the procedure: avast 4.5 beta have not push program updates as the database of users will include 4.1 and 4.5.
Are you sure your e-mail notification does not refer to the VPS update? I received one today  ::)
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 03, 2004, 03:17:35 AM
Yes, that e-mail notification (push update) was regarding VPS, but I also received Blue Window from system tray telling me that new program update is successfuly downloaded...
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Vlk on November 03, 2004, 09:08:48 AM
RejZoR, this is actually perfectly normal. Please see this:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=8057;start=msg66267#msg66267

Although it is not actually necessary for these beta builds (when only about 50+ people are involved), it is extremely necessary for regular builds and this is why the feature is there even in the betas (to be tested).

I'm glad you kind of verified it's working OK... :P


Cheers
Vlk
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: RejZoR on November 03, 2004, 05:41:54 PM
Aha,so this will only be during migration from 4.1 to 4.5 or will this policy stay forever? I know program updates aren't so important,but i usually like to have everything up to date.
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: igor on November 03, 2004, 07:07:19 PM
Even though I cannot speak for Vlk ;), I'd say it will depend on current situation. For 4.1-->4.5 transition it's necessary, but I guess it won't be necessary for small updates afterwards (e.g. when a bug is discovered and we want to distribute the fix quickly).
The parameter ("how long the update notification is spread") is stored inside VPS - so we can easily change it when needed.
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Dwarden on November 03, 2004, 08:23:39 PM
Even though I cannot speak for Vlk ;), I'd say it will depend on current situation. For 4.1-->4.5 transition it's necessary, but I guess it won't be necessary for small updates afterwards (e.g. when a bug is discovered and we want to distribute the fix quickly).
The parameter ("how long the update notification is spread") is stored inside VPS - so we can easily change it when needed.

wise and well prepared  ;D
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: RejZoR on November 03, 2004, 08:35:09 PM
I like the flexible architecture of avast! :)
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: RejZoR on November 04, 2004, 10:05:58 AM
Ok,now this is not normal. Today i started PC,connected to net and got red popup that avast! cannot contact cat.asw.cz (again). Why am i getting this error? Is server not online?
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: rosso_acido on November 04, 2004, 11:16:45 AM
Getting exactly the same error. At first I thought it was because I repaired Avast via Add/Remove last night and the servers.def file might have reverted to the original, with links for updating the standard version, but I checked its contents and it seems to be OK. ???

Oh, and something I also noticed (and apologies if it's OT) - after repairing Avast, the Mail Protection Wizard shortcut disappears from the Avast folder in Start Menu. I added it back manually, but it would be nice if it didn't go away in the first place, as it's quite convenient. :)

R. aka BS
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Vlk on November 04, 2004, 11:29:57 AM
Yes this is "normal".

The server is being upgraded so it's going to have some downtime. I hope it will be up'n'running in a couple of hours.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: radicalb21 on November 04, 2004, 11:38:07 AM
Thanks for that information as I am having the same problem. I wait and see what happens later in the day.
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: lee16 on November 04, 2004, 11:43:02 AM
Yea same here, was worryed for a second then, could you post when its "back up" please.

--lee
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: rosso_acido on November 04, 2004, 11:50:17 AM
Ah, thanks so much for the clarification. It's a relief to know it's not a problem with the programme. :)

R.
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Vlk on November 04, 2004, 11:51:03 AM
You know, we need to strengthen our hardware before the software goes gold :P
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 04, 2004, 12:06:00 PM
Yes, make your hardware strong like a "HULK"  ;D

Thanks Vlk !
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Eddy on November 04, 2004, 12:22:54 PM
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The server is being upgraded so it's going to have some downtime
I want the 'old' pieces from it ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 04, 2004, 01:06:37 PM
Will be the software of the forums be updated too?
YaBB is looking so obsolete  :P
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 04, 2004, 01:11:33 PM
Yeah, Technical is right... please do something so we all can enjoy this great change !

New avast! 4.5, new server hardware, fixed skins, new forum face... it would be BOOM !

Is there any chance we can see that in near future ?

Cheers !
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Eddy on November 04, 2004, 01:13:22 PM
SMF is real nice board software. There is also a converter yabb > smf.
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 04, 2004, 05:55:28 PM
Is there any chance we can see that in near future ?

Thanks for asking that... I'm begging for that a long time...
But, unfortunatelly, as far I know, they say the forum software won't change...
Eddy, what is this conversion program? I suppose the final user (us) can't use it to 'change' forum appearance but just Alwil...  ::)
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 04, 2004, 06:02:41 PM
So you wanna tell us Technical that we don't deserve better "room" or better looking "gathering space".  ;D  ;D  ;D

I think we deserve to have new face of these forums... everyone needs some change occasionally... I would like to see new design of these forums.

Cheers !
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: lee16 on November 04, 2004, 06:14:01 PM
Its more of whats said that important i think, it is primararly a support forum after all, but new look wouldn't go a miss, mabey a random look everytime u log in or something.

--lee
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 04, 2004, 06:22:09 PM
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Its more of whats said that important i think, it is primararly a support forum after all...

And thats' exactly why I think we deserved better looking forums, more modern... we provide good help. We have so many members with great computer knowledge - someone's speciality is hardware, someone else's is security, firewalls, routers, antivirus software, antispyware... no one knows everything, but that's why we feel like we are one great family. We help each other and we jump in if someone needs help. I one doesn't know the answer, there is always someone else who will help a friend when it's needed. We cover every single area, so it would be great if we get "new house".  ;D
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 04, 2004, 06:44:33 PM
Its more of whats said that important i think, it is primararly a support forum after all, but new look wouldn't go a miss, mabey a random look everytime u log in or something.

--lee

Lee, I don't want a new 'look' and looking for new features...
Yes, we deserve a new room with useful features: possibility to show posts in reverse way, see the unread posts of all avast forums and/or selected ones, hide/show signatures and avatars, quick reply option, etc. etc.
But Pavel said this is not on the plans  :'(  :-\  :(
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: lee16 on November 04, 2004, 06:45:40 PM
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so many members with great computer knowledge - someone's speciality is hardware, someone else's is security, firewalls, routers, antivirus software, antispyware... no one knows everything

im sure im good at something............, btw u forgot skin making, thats important aswell  ;)

--lee
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 04, 2004, 06:56:55 PM
btw u forgot skin making, thats important aswell  ;)

Well, in forums  ???  ???
Maybe you're saying that themes are posible...
I can't see skins here in the web...  ::)
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 04, 2004, 10:37:15 PM
He is talking about making skins for avast!

Read this again Technical:

Quote by me:
Quote
so many members with great computer knowledge - someone's speciality is hardware, someone else's is security, firewalls, routers, antivirus software, antispyware... no one knows everything

Quote by Lee16:
Quote
im sure im good at something............, btw u forgot skin making, thats important aswell

Thanks Lee16, but I was talking about help in avast! forums in general...
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Vlk on November 05, 2004, 09:57:17 AM
Please note that SMF is still in beta/rc phase and as such, shouldn't be used in production environment.

We'll update the forum software to SMF as soon as it goes gold (should be before xmas).


Cheers
Vlk
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 05, 2004, 11:39:36 AM
We'll update the forum software to SMF as soon as it goes gold (should be before xmas).

Thanks Vlk... very good indeed. Nice news  :D
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on November 05, 2004, 11:54:46 AM
Great news !!! Finally forums will look better. It's almost the same story like with AVG. That's not bad product at all, but it's design is horror. I think if we screen-capture it, we could transfer AVG's main window to ZX Spectrum (8 standard colors) without any loss in color palette  ;D  ;D  ;D

Great work Alwil, looking forward to see new forum's face...
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2004, 12:18:38 AM
Vlk
The only feature that really interests me is a spell checker.  ;D
Then I wouldn't have to keep making changes in my posts for glitches that I missed. :)
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 08, 2004, 01:08:12 AM
Vlk
The only feature that really interests me is a spell checker.  ;D
Then I wouldn't have to keep making changes in my posts for glitches that I missed. :)

I follow this... for non-English native people would be the glory  ;)
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: DavidR on November 08, 2004, 02:41:47 PM
Vlk
The only feature that really interests me is a spell checker.  ;D
Then I wouldn't have to keep making changes in my posts for glitches that I missed. :)

Firefox has a spell checker extension, IE has a plugin IE Spell, so there are some options out there. Are there no plugins for your browsers?
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2004, 03:02:18 PM
Thanks David.
This message has been checked for spelling errors by IR Spell. ;D
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: Lisandro on November 08, 2004, 03:23:25 PM
IE has a plugin IE Spell

Will it work in Maxthon (that uses IE engine)?
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2004, 03:50:29 PM
Technical It's working fine in GreenBrowser which is also IE based.
(As a matter of reference, it suggested that I change GreenBrowser to Green Browser.
By the way, you can download it HERE (http://www.rochen.com/ieSpellSetup201325.exe).
Title: Re:No notification about new program updates
Post by: DavidR on November 08, 2004, 04:52:53 PM
Thanks David.
This message has been checked for spelling errors by IR Spell. ;D

This way your spell checker is now available for all forums/input forms, etc. and not just one bbs type.

P.S. spellbound wanted to chamge IR to SIR