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Title: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 08, 2011, 07:13:06 PM
Hello,
Many problems or delays in Windows startup and
implementation of programs in Windows XP, VISTA, W7
not necessarily come from the antivirus
and other tools, but the malfunction
Windows prefetch subsystem.
The default configuration is set to optimize starting and charging
programs.
Windows saves information to expedite the start
and system programs, in files. pf normally in folder
C:\windows\prefetch\
This information is sometimes outdated or something
is not right and then come the problems.
For any delay or malfunction of the system, you must delete all
the contents of the folder C:\windows\prefetch\

This deletion is completely safe.
Windows remake immediately that information as
is started or running programs.
This deletion may be miraculous.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: CraigB on September 08, 2011, 07:19:47 PM
Sounds like you need a good program called ccleaner, when the box is ticked under advanced it will clean out old prefetch data.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 08, 2011, 07:25:03 PM
Yes, I know, but may be partially true.
You have to delete all the content, not just the old one.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: CraigB on September 08, 2011, 07:34:41 PM
No need to delet all of the prefetch data, once you've finished browsing for the day run ccleaner and anything that has reached the expiry limit will then be deleted.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 08, 2011, 07:41:39 PM
Well, something is wrong, because Windows could also see
the expiry limit and yet insists on
use that information delays and
problems. Or is it a different other hidden problem
other than the expiration ..
In any case, if with CCLEANER not fix the problem
I encourage you to delete the entire contents of the folder.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: SHARKY7SHARKY on September 08, 2011, 07:52:18 PM
Saves me  typing


Each time you turn on your computer, Windows keeps track of the way your computer starts and which programs you commonly open. Windows saves this information as a number of small files in the prefetch folder. The next time you turn on your computer, Windows refers to these files to help speed the start process.

The prefetch folder is a subfolder of the Windows system folder. The prefetch folder is self-maintaining, and there's no need to delete it or empty its contents. If you empty the folder, Windows and your programs will take longer to open the next time you turn on your computer.

Dangerous myths: Deleting the informaation in Prefetch folder
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There are often claims that deleting the Prefetch folder actually results in less boot-up time and more free memory. The reasons for this vary—for example, some experts claim that Windows loads Prefetch information for all of the programs you’ve ever started on your computer into memory automatically, filling your RAM with unused data (this is not true.) These experts recommend deleting the contents of “Windows\Prefetch” on a regular basis, to keep your memory free from unused data. Ouch! Two reasons:

   1. If you don’t run a program, Windows does not access the Prefetch information.
   2. Windows maintains a maximum of 128 entries in the Prefetch folder. It cleans itself automatically.

So, if you actually delete the Prefetch folder, here’s what you should really expect to happen: Windows and applications will need noticeably more time to start, as the Prefetch data needs to be collected again. The entire performance of your system will slow down.


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Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: CraigB on September 08, 2011, 08:04:33 PM
Well, something is wrong, because Windows could also see
the expiry limit and yet insists on
use that information delays and
problems. Or is it a different other hidden problem
other than the expiration ..
In any case, if with CCLEANER not fix the problem
I encourage you to delete the entire contents of the folder.
I have no reason to delet the folder as i have no problems with it and i have never heard of any issues regarding avast and prefetch either.


SHARKY7SHARKY when you use someone elses post you should quote the author but thank you for posting it as i could not be bothered with typing and explaining all that either  :)
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: SHARKY7SHARKY on September 08, 2011, 08:21:48 PM
10/4 How's this

Posted by: enriquemm

Hello,  SHARKY say's Hi
Many problems or delays in Windows startup and
implementation of programs in Windows XP, VISTA, W7not necessarily come from the antivirus
and other tools, but the malfunction
Windows prefetch subsystem.

Each time you turn on your computer, Windows keeps track of the way your computer starts and which programs you commonly open. Windows saves this information as a number of small files in the prefetch folder. The next time you turn on your computer, Windows refers to these files to help speed the start process.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: SHARKY7SHARKY on September 08, 2011, 08:34:42 PM
I think the forum readers can clearly see who it’s directed to.
Thought I would post because people will be deleting Prefetch everyday.
Nothing wrong in cleaning out a few times a year, but not really necessary.
Title: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 08, 2011, 08:44:46 PM
I do not try to explain how it should work windows.
No one knows why windows gets stuck sometimes with
the prefech information.
This is not to save memory and speed up anything.
You can actually configure prefecth not to work
to debug.
My advice, my experience am personally tired of
fix PC problems is:
- Delete the entire contents of the folder
- Reboot the system
- The first time seems to go even faster, even recreating
new prefetch information.
.- The second time you reboot the system and we
prefetch alleged speed and none of the problems
would, if they were due to prefetch.

Windows does not work ever as it says, just how it works.

Greetings.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: SHARKY7SHARKY on September 08, 2011, 10:20:59 PM
I see what you meant by Author,  it’s a name called Microsoft or something.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: essexboy on September 08, 2011, 10:42:55 PM
It is inadvisable to empty the prefetch folder on windows Vista and above as it can cause unpredictable results

It does not slow the boot time by more than a nano second or so, in fact I doubt you would even notice a difference 
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: DavidCo on September 08, 2011, 10:57:26 PM
Do not delete the 'layout.ini' file
I'd leave the 'ReadyBoot' as well

Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: ady4um on September 08, 2011, 11:11:04 PM
I don't have bad intentions with this comment, so please don't misunderstand me.

So, now someone simply copy+paste some old phrases from some site here in a post, which BTW are not correct and irrelevant not only for Avast users but for any Windows user, and we start "answering" to a non-question?

IMNSHO, the only thing worth of posting in this topic is that the OP is simply and completely wrong, just for the record for less experienced users that might think of trying such nonsense.

Other than that, I just hope this topic will die quickly.
Title: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 09, 2011, 12:55:01 AM
We're talking about a PC that has problems, and we think
may be a antivirus or another program installed incorrectly.
When no other idea, delete prefech is an alternative.
I tried it in XP, Vista SP1 and Windows 7.
And it has corrected problems that were therefore prefetch.
Indeed, the content to delete files are: .pf and .db
No subfolders as ReadyBoot.
Let everyone do what they want.
Continue with the problem or see if the problem was prefetch.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 11, 2011, 04:37:03 PM
I've never had unpredictable results.
For me, the deletion is usually harmless.
The information is reconstructed immediately
as they are running for the first time
programs.
If someone fears a risk, start
windows in safe mode command line,
, as administrator, and run the
removal with the command of MSDOS.
AVAST has its own file. Pf
Attention folder no mistake .!!!!
Is c: \ windows \ prefetch \
Delete only files.
In all cases we are talking about a PC
with severe traffic jams, slow
startup, or erratic behavior of programs
or services. Especially if it happens after Restore
the system.
It is my experience. I hope to serve you.
Although not always the problem is prefecht.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: YoKenny on September 11, 2011, 06:57:25 PM
Tip of the day: Don’t clean out the Prefetch folder
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2005/04/tip-of-the-day-dont-clean-out-the-prefetch-folder
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: DavidR on September 11, 2011, 08:06:25 PM
You can clean it out if you wish, it just takes a few boots to repopulate it.

Personally I have the prefetch set to 2 'prefetch only boot files,' not 1 'prefetch application launch files,' not 3 'prefetch everything' and I don't really notice any boot-time issues.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 12, 2011, 04:25:42 PM
Please note: this tip does not apply to my conversation:
"Tip of the day: Do not clean out the Prefetch folder
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2005/04/tip-of-the-day-dont-clean-out-the-prefetch-folder "

It has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
I'm not saying you have to delete prefetch regularly to get better speed or performance, which also is not true, I'm talking about a PC that has problems that may be due to prefetch corruption.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: davexnet on September 12, 2011, 09:10:48 PM
Please note: this tip does not apply to my conversation:
"Tip of the day: Do not clean out the Prefetch folder
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2005/04/tip-of-the-day-dont-clean-out-the-prefetch-folder "

It has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
I'm not saying you have to delete prefetch regularly to get better speed or performance, which also is not true, I'm talking about a PC that has problems that may be due to prefetch corruption.

Is this prefetch corruption anything to do with Avast?
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: Dwarden on September 12, 2011, 09:16:30 PM
http://www.pallab.net/2010/01/14/windows-prefetch-optimisation-myth-busted/
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 14, 2011, 03:41:08 PM
The reason for this conversation, again, is that many people
when something goes wrong he blames the antivirus.
And there is a file preftech pf each running progarma
and also boot information.
Avast has at least one file in prefech pf.
The theory I hold is that at some point prefetch
malfunctioning.
I do not speak to optimize anything, just to fix something that is wrong
at a given time. Therefore, I have spent many times that deleting files
who are in prefetch, the problem has been solved and the PC
is back to normal, no faster or optimized, but normally.
And Windows rebuilds prefetch and everything becomes as before
The final summary is that you want to try to prove it.
And no more links to articles about optimization, which is not
this matter
. If prefetch was corrupt or outdated, the deletion
removes the problem.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on September 30, 2011, 10:58:29 PM
 And this time it has happened.
I loaded windows updates
for windows7 and everything seemed to go well
Then I saw an optional upgrade
Intel HD graphics adapter and have installed.
When restarting again everything seems to be erratic,
slow and bad. The laptop hangs half ....
I rebooted again and .... nothing.
And behold, I delete the prefetch files
and "e vualá" everything is resolved.
I hate being right.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on October 02, 2011, 02:53:34 PM
Whenever you delete the prefetch files (pf, db) for a problem
then restart the PC.
In the next boot these files are recreated as they are running.
both boot and programs, depending on the configuration of prefetch,
In the second boot uses that information to speed up the boot
and programs.
Good luck.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: DonZ63 on October 03, 2011, 12:42:37 AM
For Vista and WIN 7, only delete .pf files or you run the risk of totally corrupting prefetch processing. As mentioned previously CCleaner has a prefetch option when enabled will safely deleted unused prefetch entries.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on October 08, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
I've never had problems with corruption when deleting
prefetch files. I've never detected anything.
On the contrary, I have solved problems.
Ccleaner deletes unused files in prefetch.
But if the problem is some of those used?
For those who fear you have corruption in windows vista
and w7, you can disable the prefecht service previously.
After the deletion, activate it again.
In prefetch xp no service, but I think xp prefetch gives less problems.
And if there is more fear, you can boot the PC command line mode
and delete the files in c: \ windows \ prefetch
And as I do, as it has served me tell you.
There is no guarantee.
Just my experience on that topic.
Title: Re: AVAST AND PREFETCH
Post by: enriquemm on October 08, 2011, 02:07:31 PM
My experience is on XP-S3 professional, VISTA-SP1 Hpremium and W7 Hpremium-SP1
and I remember that also tested on Windows Server 2003, but
this is not sure.