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Title: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 20, 2011, 02:06:53 AM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20110920-zrmg-51kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20110920-zrmg-51kb)

Is there a version of avast! that can be run on the current Developer Build of Windows 8 ???
Title: Re: Windows 8 and avast!
Post by: Gargamel360 on September 20, 2011, 02:14:41 AM
See here, Bob>>http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=81706.msg688489#msg688489 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=81706.msg688489#msg688489), apparently a Windows-side issue, they are currently blocked from installing, looks like you will have to wait till the beta.
Title: Re: Windows 8 and avast!
Post by: bob3160 on September 20, 2011, 02:57:30 AM
See here, Bob>>http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=81706.msg688489#msg688489 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=81706.msg688489#msg688489), apparently a Windows-side issue, they are currently blocked from installing, looks like you will have to wait till the beta.
Thanks but for now that computer has to rely on MS for it's protection.  :'(
Title: Re: Windows 8 and avast!
Post by: Coolmario88 on September 20, 2011, 03:19:17 AM
Hey @Bob3160 is it true that you can make windows 8 dev preview look like windows 7 in a way?  I wonder if avast! 7 will run on windows 8..
Title: Re: Windows 8 and avast!
Post by: bob3160 on September 20, 2011, 03:31:40 AM
Hey @Bob3160 is it true that you can make windows 8 dev preview look like windows 7 in a way?  I wonder if avast! 7 will run on windows 8..
That's probably a silly question. avast! 7 when it's released will work on windows 8

A part of it already looks like Windows7   it all depends on what you're doing and what you're using.

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20110920-gwt0-146kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20110920-gwt0-146kb)
Title: Re: Windows 8 and avast!
Post by: Chris Thomas on September 21, 2011, 02:11:26 PM
I guess security software providers will work on a Windows 8 version from Jan 1.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 22, 2011, 04:01:27 AM
Windows 8 Developer Preview Keyboard Shortcuts -

Windows Logo Key + Spacebar  –  Switch input language and keyboard layout
Windows Logo Key + Y  –  Temporarily peek at the desktop
Windows Logo Key + O  –  Locks device orientation
Windows Logo Key + V  –  Cycles through toasts
Windows Logo Key + Shift + V  –  Cycles through toasts in reverse order
Windows Logo Key + Enter  –  Launches Narrator
Windows Logo Key + PgUp  –  Moves tiles to the left
Windows Logo Key + PgDown  –  Moves tiles to the right
Windows Logo Key + Shift + .  –  Moves the split to the left
Windows Logo Key + .  –  Moves the split to the right
Windows Logo Key + F  –  Opens File Search App
Windows Logo Key + C  –  Opens Charms Bar
Windows Logo Key + I  –  Opens Settings charm
Windows Logo Key + K  –  Opens Connect charm
Windows Logo Key + H  –  Opens Share charm
Windows Logo Key + Q  –  Opens Search pane
Windows Logo Key + W  –  Opens Settings Search app
Windows Logo Key + Z  –  Opens App Bar
Title: Re: Windows 8 and avast!
Post by: Nesivos on September 23, 2011, 12:46:36 AM
See here, Bob>>http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=81706.msg688489#msg688489 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=81706.msg688489#msg688489), apparently a Windows-side issue, they are currently blocked from installing, looks like you will have to wait till the beta.
Thanks but for now that computer has to rely on MS for it's protection.  :'(

That is not correct.

I have been running W8 DP for a week.

SAS runs perfectly fine in W8.  In fact it has even nabbed some malware on my W8 computer
Free Malwarebytes runs perfectly fine in W8.  Don't know if the Pro-version does so in real-time but my guess would be yes.

I have found the dividing line thus.

AV programs at this time will not run under W8, though there might be some exceptions.  I checked a couple including AIS and they were not compatible with W8

However anti-spyware programs which do also catch some viruses appear to run on W8.

I replaced WD with MSE for now since at this point MSE defends against all malware not just spyware.

Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 23, 2011, 01:49:46 AM
Since MSE is a Microsoft product, I guess we're at this point still dependent on
Microsoft for our AV protection.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on September 23, 2011, 03:16:52 AM
I'd rather test an avast 7 beta on my "old" Windows 7 first :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 23, 2011, 03:00:48 PM
I'd rather test an avast 7 beta on my "old" Windows 7 first :)
Right now I'd love any version of avast! that will work on Windows 8. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 23, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
Skype 5.5 for Windows update: Support for Windows 8 (http://blogs.skype.com/garage/2011/09/skype_55_for_windows_update_su_release_notes.html)

Now we just need avast! to do the same. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2011, 05:35:25 PM
CCleaner (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/release-notes/3.11.1541)
Optimization and Cleaning
Release Notes
v3.11.1541 (26 Sep 2011)
- Added initial support for Windows 8.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 02, 2011, 11:09:31 PM
I recently installed the Windows 8 Developers Preview
on my 10.1 inch Netbook only to find out that the
Windows Apps on the desktop didn't work when clicking on them.
It turns out that your display needs to be at least 1024 X 768
if it's less than that, the apps don't respond when you click on them.

Simple fix after some searching and reading was quite simple.
1. Make sure your video card drivers are up to date.
 
2. Use the following Reg Edit fix:
Open Regedit and Search for  "Display1_DownScalingSupported" (without the quotes)
Change the value from 0 (Zero) to 1 (One)
3. Reboot
4. When the system comes back up,
   Right Click on a blank space of the desktop and select "Screen Resolution" from the menue that opens.
   Select 1024X768 and hit ok then apply.
Your Desktop Apps will now work. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 04, 2011, 12:48:28 PM
The Windows 8 Task Manager (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/13/the-windows-8-task-manager.aspx)
(http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-29-43-metablogapi/3301.Default_2D00_view_2D00_of_2D00_Windows_2D00_8_2D00_Task_2D00_Manager_5F00_00799646.png)   (http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-29-43-metablogapi/5432.Processes_2D00_tab_2D00_of_2D00_Windows_2D00_8_2D00_Task_2D00_Manager_5F00_2B51FA58.png)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Para-Noid on November 04, 2011, 08:53:10 PM
Let's see...Win8 is still in dev. stage...people want "everything" to be compatable from the get go.
"It ain't gonna happen!" I remember when patience was a virtue.

Win8 not in beta yet...avast v.7 not in beta yet. Please put 2 plus 2 together.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 26, 2011, 02:27:12 AM
Microsoft Security Essentials Beta is now available.
You can sign up for it at: http://www.ghacks.net/2011/11/19/microsoft-security-essentials-beta-program-sign-up/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2011/11/19/microsoft-security-essentials-beta-program-sign-up/)
I'm currently testing it on Windows 8 Developers Preview set up on a separate Partition using 100 Gig of the current HD.
Here are some screen shots:

(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v190/bob3160/MSE%20Beta/th_m_20111120-dqbs-61kb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v190/bob3160/MSE%20Beta/?action=view&current=d030c0d8.pbw)

(Click on the image for a slideshow)

The version of Windows Defender that comes with Windows 8 also acts as an antivirus since it checks everything.
I have no clue as to how effective it is which is why I've added the MSE beta to that partition.

Hopefully there will soon be an avast! beta to test in place of MSE.  :)


 
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: harlock59 on December 06, 2011, 10:27:29 PM
i've just installed avast on windows 8 ignoring alerts. it seems tu run perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 06, 2011, 11:17:29 PM
i've just installed avast on windows 8 ignoring alerts. it seems tu run perfectly fine.
avast! 6 is not compatible with Windows 8.
Installing it may work but how much protection are you actually getting ???
If the developers tell you that it doesn't work on Windows 8, are you going to trust it to protect
your system ???
I know I will not and wait for a build of avast! that actually is meant to run on Windows 8.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 09, 2011, 06:35:25 PM
(http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/eb-hyper-v-unsupported.jpg)

Does your PC have what it takes to run Windows 8's Hyper-V? (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/does-your-pc-have-what-it-takes-to-run-windows-8s-hyper-v/4254?tag=nl.e539)

The computer I'm using has what it needs:

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20111209-zhmi-47kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20111209-zhmi-47kb)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 05, 2012, 03:59:25 PM
The next time that you have a proiblem with Windows 7 (Also works in Windows 8 Developers Copy)
Why not use a tool that's already built into the operating system to solve your problem ???

Win7 and Windows 8 built-in Problem Steps Recorder

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120105-fwic-9kb.jpg)

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120105-ufot-18kb.jpg)

How do I use Problem Steps Recorder?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows7/How-do-I-use-Problem-Steps-Recorder

Video demo of how to use this function:
http://youtu.be/NdFMqz8VMk4

Here's the information you'll need to set up a shortcut on your desktop:

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120105-jyfk-2kb.jpg)

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120105-l6vp-39kb.jpg)

Next time you run into a re-occurring problem, give this a try and become a Computer Guru.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 05, 2012, 11:46:46 PM
@bob3160 Thank you for telling us this! I never knew a such tool like this even existed on windows! :) I guess the saying is true you do learn something new everyday ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 05, 2012, 11:52:12 PM
@bob3160 Thank you for telling us this! I never knew a such tool like this even existed on windows! :) I guess the saying is true you do learn something new everyday ;D
For me, the day I stop learning is the day I'll be 6 feet under.  ;D
I actually got some of the information in one of the  News Letters that I subscribe to.
I just enhanced it and added screen shots and found out the actual program the article was
talking about so that I could create a desktop shortcut.
Even though it's buried in the control panel functions, I couldn't find the actual program used
without a lot of digging.
The fun of learning.  :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 05, 2012, 11:59:07 PM
@bob3160 Thank you for telling us this! I never knew a such tool like this even existed on windows! :) I guess the saying is true you do learn something new everyday ;D
For me, the day I stop learning is the day I'll be 6 feet under.  ;D
I actually got some of the information in one of the  News Letters that I subscribe to.
I just enhanced it and added screen shots and found out the actual program the article was
talking about so that I could create a desktop shortcut.
Even though it's buried in the control panel functions, I couldn't find the actual program used
without a lot of digging.
The fun of learning.  :)
The thing that gets me though where is the screenshots that you can see inthe ".mhtml" file in the zip folder that it creates is stored..  wait is the images stored in the mhtml file?  ???
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2012, 12:04:12 AM
Correct. It creates the file with all the information including the screen shots.
This program was actually developed for professional who help customers track down the
problems.
Remember, it only works for problems you can recreate. Or problems that happen at
a predictable time after you launch the system   etc.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Gargamel360 on January 06, 2012, 12:49:31 AM
@bob3160 Thank you for telling us this!
+1....had no idea this was there, thanks
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on January 06, 2012, 12:31:06 PM
Virtualizing storage for scale, resiliency, and efficiency
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/01/05/virtualizing-storage-for-scale-resiliency-and-efficiency.aspx
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2012, 01:14:58 PM
Virtualizing storage for scale, resiliency, and efficiency
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/01/05/virtualizing-storage-for-scale-resiliency-and-efficiency.aspx
Nice but not available in the currently released build ???
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on January 06, 2012, 02:03:10 PM
Virtualizing storage for scale, resiliency, and efficiency
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/01/05/virtualizing-storage-for-scale-resiliency-and-efficiency.aspx
Nice but not available in the currently released build ???

Quote
It will all be available to you as part of the Windows 8 Beta release in addition to the features available in the Developer Preview.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2012, 02:30:49 PM
Which will hopefully be out by some time in Feb. 2012.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on January 06, 2012, 02:38:29 PM
Which will hopefully be out by some time in Feb. 2012.

That's true for most users.
For some others the beta download should start quite soon. (CES) ;)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2012, 02:51:11 PM
Which will hopefully be out by some time in Feb. 2012.

That's true for most users.
For some others the beta download should start quite soon. (CES) ;)
Wonder if Avast needs someone to attend ???
I'm not that far away and am free for those days.....  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on January 06, 2012, 02:54:40 PM
Wonder if Avast needs someone to attend ???
I'm not that far away and am free for those days.....  ;D ;D ;D

LOL ;D
Hope they send you there, as you always provide nice info and pics. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: YoKenny on January 06, 2012, 03:05:21 PM
Which will hopefully be out by some time in Feb. 2012.

That's true for most users.
For some others the beta download should start quite soon. (CES) ;)
Wonder if Avast needs someone to attend ???
I'm not that far away and am free for those days.....  ;D ;D ;D
I hope you find sompelace to stay: ;)
http://www.cesweb.org/hotelTravel/hotel.asp
CES hompage:
http://www.cesweb.org
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2012, 03:09:51 PM
Which will hopefully be out by some time in Feb. 2012.

That's true for most users.
For some others the beta download should start quite soon. (CES) ;)
Wonder if Avast needs someone to attend ???
I'm not that far away and am free for those days.....  ;D ;D ;D
I hope you find sompelace to stay: ;)
http://www.cesweb.org/hotelTravel/hotel.asp
CES hompage:
http://www.cesweb.org
Since I haven't been asked to go, right now I'm still staying at home.... No Problem.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2012, 11:59:59 PM
I case I don't hear anything about going,  ;D ;D ;D
You can follow it at:
http://ces.cnet.com/ (http://ces.cnet.com/)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: true indian on January 07, 2012, 06:02:32 AM
i hope avast 7 will be compatible with win8...once win8 is out of beta i will get it for my new cheap computer sitting beside me and i will infect it with malware and play around with uncountable pieces of malware and see how avast does!  ;D

messing up as far as i can in presence of avast 7


Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on January 07, 2012, 03:20:23 PM
i hope avast 7 will be compatible with win8
If they have time... Otherwise, we can have a new version ( avast v.8 ) when Windows 8 gets out :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 07, 2012, 03:37:50 PM
i hope avast 7 will be compatible with win8...once win8 is out of beta i will get it for my new cheap computer sitting beside me and i will infect it with malware and play around with uncountable pieces of malware and see how avast does!  ;D

messing up as far as i can in presence of avast 7



Please stop posting items in topics which have nothing to do with the subject of the Thread.  >:(
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 09, 2012, 02:46:29 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120109-zm7i-72kb.jpg)

New for Windows 8, Reload a fresh copy of Windows 8 and keep your files and settings or,
Wipe out everything and just leave a fresh install of Windows 8 behind.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on January 09, 2012, 07:18:25 PM
Now that is a very nice feature.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 10, 2012, 02:47:06 AM
I wonder if the recover feature will be in the final version of windows..  I hope that they keep it as a feature in windows 8 in the final cause,  it would be very usefully.. Why can't microsoft ditch system restore  for that Recovery feature..
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 10, 2012, 12:54:17 PM
I wonder if the recover feature will be in the final version of windows..  I hope that they keep it as a feature in windows 8 in the final cause,  it would be very usefully.. Why can't microsoft ditch system restore  for that Recovery feature..
Because the System Restore function serves a different purpose. You certainly wouldn't want to have to wait for a recovery which takes some time to finish when a simple System Restore would do the job and takes considerably less time.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on January 10, 2012, 07:59:12 PM
Thinking about it, can't you do close to the same thing now by doing a Windows repair from the Windows disc? (if you have one). I also would think that doing a reinstall like that in Win 8 would also require reapplying updates.  It would really be nice if that wasn't the case.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 11, 2012, 04:48:01 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120111-qwp7-9kb.jpg)

How to Pin a Folder or Drive Directly to Windows 7 and Windows 8 Taskbar. (http://www.askvg.com/how-to-pin-a-folder-or-drive-directly-to-windows-7-taskbar/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120111-oi35-38kb.jpg)  (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120111-8ihs-30kb.jpg)

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120111-zsai-21kb.jpg)

Now just drag the finished shortcut down to the QuickLaunch bar.  :)

Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 12, 2012, 05:54:45 AM
I asked microsofthelps on twitter if the refresh feature on windows 8 dev preview would be in the final version and they said 
Quote from: http://twitter.com/#!/MicrosoftHelps/status/157147697713922048
This feature looks like will make the final build :) ^BK
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 18, 2012, 12:28:54 AM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120117-oea4-41kb.jpg)

All Your Favorite Android Apps now on your PC (http://bluestacks.com/)
Alpha version now available for Windows 7 also works on Windows 8 :)

This will be part of Windows 8 when it's released.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on January 18, 2012, 11:29:46 AM
Building the next generation file system for Windows: ReFS
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/01/16/building-the-next-generation-file-system-for-windows-refs.aspx
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 19, 2012, 12:45:28 PM
Say Goodbye to the BIOS and Hello to the UEFI (http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/say-goodbye-to-bios-and-hello-to-uefi/)


(http://download.windowssecrets.com/images/wsn/W20120119-TS-AwardUEFI.jpg)

Windows 8 will finally pull the PC industry out of the BIOS generation and into a far more capable — and controversial — alternative, the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on January 19, 2012, 01:19:59 PM
Holy Sh#t :o I'm getting very worried moving to W8 otherwise I better grab and stick with W7 for as long as I can........God Crikey the future has change very quickly :-\
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on January 19, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
Say Goodbye to the BIOS and Hello to the UEFI (http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/say-goodbye-to-bios-and-hello-to-uefi/)


(http://download.windowssecrets.com/images/wsn/W20120119-TS-AwardUEFI.jpg)

Windows 8 will finally pull the PC industry out of the BIOS generation and into a far more capable — and controversial — alternative, the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface.
On some PC's you can already have that in Win7
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 03, 2012, 04:05:03 PM
Installing avast! 7 Free Beta on Windows 8 Developers Copy

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120203-8lpt-27kb.jpg) (http://youtu.be/KVR_x14Sa2o)

http://youtu.be/KVR_x14Sa2o (http://youtu.be/KVR_x14Sa2o)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: kcs on February 03, 2012, 10:36:49 PM
Windows 8 set for October 2012 launch

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43952/windows-8-october-2012-launch (http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43952/windows-8-october-2012-launch)

other posted items on the full beta version

The beta of Windows 8 will launch in late February 2012, as will its app store, which initially will include only free apps from developers Microsoft invites.

On December 6, Microsoft offered a press preview of the app store it is building for Windows 8 — and which will launch in late February 2012, concurrent with the release of the one and only Windows 8 beta.

(The Next Web reported recently that the Windows 8 beta would hit in late February, according to their unnamed sources.)

As Microsoft indicated at Build, its Store will allow licensing, purchase and download of Metro-style apps from directly within the Store. Desktop (non-Metro-style) apps cannot be downloaded from inside the store, but developers can promote those apps there and offer links to them, officials said back in September.

At today’s Store preview, Microsoft officials shared updated stats on Windows. They claimed that there are now 1.25 billion Windows PCs in existence (1 billion was the last Microsoft-provided figure I recall). They said that 3 million copies of Windows 8 developer preview have been downloaded since September, when Microsoft made that version available to interested testers. And they said there have been 500 million copies of Windows 7 sold to date. (That figure was 400 million, as of July 2011.)

According to AllThingsD, which liveblogged the store preview, Microsoft is allowing developers to price apps from between $1.49 to $999.99 (as well as offer them for free, one would assume). There will be gradations in the percentage Microsoft gets as its cut, blogged Ina Fried, the AllThingsD reporter covering the event. Microsoft will start with a 30 percent cut, which will drop to 20 percent as soon as an app makes $25,000 from sales and in-app purchases.

Fried noted that Google takes a five percent cut on apps sold through the Chrome Web Store, while Apple gets 30 percent for its Mac and iOS app stores.

When Microsoft launches the app store in late February, it will include free apps only, and included apps will only include those from developers that received invitations from Microsoft, Fried blogged.

Update: A few more tidbits:

* Microsoft is launching a “First Apps Contest” for developers who’d like their apps to be considered for the Store’s opening. More details on the contest can be found at buildwindowscontest.com.

* The Windows 8 App Certification Kit, Windows Developer Dashboard and the Windows Store App Certification requirements, are all going to be available via  MSDN page.

*A new Windows Store blog launched today, as well.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsstore/archive/2011/12/06/announcing-the-new-windows-store.aspx (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsstore/archive/2011/12/06/announcing-the-new-windows-store.aspx)

Now that Microsoft has (surprisingly) shared its beta date target, I already am seeing tweets from folks wondering whether February means Windows 8 can still hit the rumored release-to-manufacturing (RTM) target of Q2/Q3 2012. I, for one, believe it still can, given Microsoft’s increasingly condensed beta cycle and corporate decisions to release code only when it’s pretty much complete.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-previews-windows-8-app-store-launching-with-the-beta-in-late-february/11340 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-previews-windows-8-app-store-launching-with-the-beta-in-late-february/11340)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 08, 2012, 09:57:16 PM
I read this article yesterday and even though I usually don't agree with the writer in his other postings, I thought he made some good points in this one.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/five-reasons-why-windows-8-will-be-dead-on-arrival/10275?tag=content;siu-container

Especially where he says that the best new features in Win 8 could be applied to Win7 with an update or Service Pack.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on February 08, 2012, 10:22:41 PM
You wouldn't pay for a win7 SP update though ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 08, 2012, 11:45:36 PM
You wouldn't pay for a win7 SP update though ;D
On that same line, you could have done the same ting for vista and that certainly didn't happen.

Since I've used Windows 8 for quite some time, I can tell you I wouldn't go back unless I had no choice in the matter.
Besides, it will only get better by the time it's finally release.  :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on February 09, 2012, 12:02:54 AM
It isn't so much going back, but what win8 offers over and above win7 and is it worth paying for.

From what I'm seeing reported, it seems many don't think so, only time will tell.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 09, 2012, 12:29:50 AM
You wouldn't pay for a win7 SP update though ;D
Exactly, and that's why it won't happen. I think the guy may be somewhat exaggerating the case though since even Vista, which is widely accepted as a "failure", still sold over 88 million copies. A lot of companies would love to have a failure like that.  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2012, 02:59:46 PM
Windows 8 Consumer Preview due February 29 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/windows-8-consumer-preview-due-february-29-why-its-not-called-beta/4496)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on February 09, 2012, 03:15:25 PM
Lucky it is a leap year or we could be waiting 4 years.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2012, 03:17:15 PM
Lucky it is a leap year or we could be waiting 4 years.
Wrong month,   one day late and it would wind up to be my Anniversary Present.  :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 13, 2012, 10:09:29 PM
I just read another article on ZDNet and the following quote is very telling I think.

Quote
From the perspective of the consumer and enterprise, an upgrade to Windows 8 in late 2012 or early 2013 means getting all new Windows software from the new Microsoft Windows Store (the “App Store”) if they want to take advantage of the new Metro features on x86 PCs.
 
The likely outcome is that Windows 7 is going to remain the most popular version of desktop Windows until a significant number of applications are ported over to the new Metro/WinRT environment. So we can expect both consumer and corporate adoption of Windows 8 at least on the desktop to be slow. Very slow.
 
The bottom line is that there’s very little incentive to move to Windows 8 at all if you’re just going to be running the same Win32 apps you have today.
I fully expect Win 8, in the consumer market, to be the new Vista with only people getting new PC's having it and half of them "downgrading" to Win 7. I doubt if many retail upgrades will be sold at all.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 13, 2012, 10:13:05 PM
There are many that happen to like the speed and other improvements made in Windows 8  :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 13, 2012, 10:20:01 PM
There are many that happen to like the speed and other improvements made in Windows 8  :)
It may be a little faster but every new feature I see presented makes me less and less likely to bother with it. Since I'll probably follow my pattern on getting a new machine every 6 years, I know I'll be skipping Win 8. Nobody can deny that Win 7 is an excellent OS.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 13, 2012, 10:23:48 PM
This is the link to the article. It's not totally pessimistic about Win 8 at all, it's just in the consumer and enterprise  market that the guy agrees with another of his colleagues whose article is also linked to that it will bomb.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/the-long-kiss-goodbye-for-x86-desktop-windows/19840?tag=nl.e550
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 13, 2012, 10:25:45 PM
This is the link to the article. It's not totally pessimistic about Win 8 at all, it's just in the consumer and enterprise  market that the guy agrees with another of his colleagues whose article is also linked to that it will bomb.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/the-long-kiss-goodbye-for-x86-desktop-windows/19840?tag=nl.e550 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/the-long-kiss-goodbye-for-x86-desktop-windows/19840?tag=nl.e550)
It's a good thing that we are all entitled to our opinions. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Marc57 on February 13, 2012, 10:44:40 PM
I can't see leaving Win 7 for this. To me, this interface may work fine on a phone or tablet but NOT a PC. Is it just me or is Metro UGLY?  I'll try the preview when it comes out, But I doubt it will change my mind.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on February 13, 2012, 10:58:44 PM
Windows 8 seems to have take decisions to move forward mobile and touch screen.
Desktop users seems to have got a step backwards.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on February 13, 2012, 11:06:28 PM
I can't see leaving Win 7 for this. To me, this interface may work fine on a phone or tablet but NOT a PC. Is it just me or is Metro UGLY?  I'll try the preview when it comes out, But I doubt it will change my mind.

That is the thing which gets most of the negative publicity, over an above what extra are you getting in win8 that you don't have (and need) in win7 and is it worth the price.

I think they are taking a big risk with designing an OS that is so geared to touch screen devices, without giving and easy classic desktop option without constantly having to go through Metro. I have to say when I first saw the Metro interface of windows phone 7, I though it boxy and butt ugly and it hasn't improved.

I had been hanging back on this XP system until more on win8 was known before replacing it, not particularly wanting win7 (don't like it that much on my netbook either), but win8 in its current form doesn't appeal to me either. What now, Linux ???

Even if this proves to be the new Vista as Dch48 thinks, Vista still made MS billions (for such a so called failure), so success is hard to gauge in that light.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 13, 2012, 11:55:43 PM
Well I stuck with XP and was happy with it until the games coming out needed a more powerful graphics solution (couldn't upgrade my laptop in that way) and at least a dual core CPU. I got a great deal on this new laptop with Win 7 Home Premium 64 and I have to say that after the initial few days of acclimation, I think it's much better than XP in every way. It boots faster and has a lot more capabilities built in. The changes I see in Win 8 don't appeal to me at all. From the Metro UI to the redesigned explorer with the horrid ribbon UI and almost everything in between I have to say no thanks. I have never changed an OS on any machine I have ever owned and don't see it happening with this either. I will probably give IE 10 a go though.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 13, 2012, 11:59:19 PM
Can we get back to Tips Questions and Solution :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 18, 2012, 03:15:09 PM

Extending the use of Windows 8 Developers Copy to January 15, 2013


Check Windows update and make sure that the following update appears in the
update history:
kb/2671501
More information:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2671501 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2671501)


Once that update has been applied and you've rebooted your system,
you're all set and can contimue to use this version till 1/15/2013
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 18, 2012, 03:18:11 PM
New Windows 8 Logo:
(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images3/Windows_8_New_Logo.png)


Details here (http://www.askvg.com/windows-8-gets-new-metro-style-logo-goodbye-windows-flag/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: !Donovan on February 18, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
And what started as a simple "window" to compliment the product name became a flying or waving flag. But if you look back to the origins of the logo you see that it really was meant to be a window.
(AskVG.com | Windows 8 Gets New Metro Style Logo, Goodbye Windows Flag)


I like the vivid colored flag just the way it is. I see that the 'window' is a historic idea, but my vista flag looks okay just the way it is. :P
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on February 18, 2012, 04:27:48 PM
New Windows 8 Logo:<snip>

Details here (http://www.askvg.com/windows-8-gets-new-metro-style-logo-goodbye-windows-flag/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)

I have to say it looks like it is for something like windows 3 (or even 1), so Retro/Bland/Blocky that it hurts, butt ugly a little like The windows phone 7 interface all to do with the win8 Metro interface, uuuck.

Designers, money for old rope.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 18, 2012, 07:24:33 PM
The upcoming Windows 8 and the Past Logo's used by Windows.
(http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-59-23-metablogapi/2133.winlogo_2D00_history3_2D00_thumb_5F00_thumb_5F00_40E94EDB.jpg)
Windows 1.0Few remember the original Windows logo, yet we found it both refreshing and inspiring in relation to the work we have been doing on the Metro style design visuals. Using simple lines and clear straight forward concept, this logo reminded us of what a great and evocative name we have with “windows”.
(http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-59-23-metablogapi/3364.2_5F00_0B718CF2.png)Windows 3.1For many of us this was the image in our mind when we think of past Windows logos. The now classic window shape and the introduction of the four colors were hallmarks of the Windows brand for many years to come. The introduction of the “waving effect” gives the logo a sense of motion. This logo would be the basis of the Windows versions throughout the 1990s.
(http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-59-23-metablogapi/4377.3_5F00_thumb_5F00_51161710.png)Windows XPThe next major incarnation of the logo came with the release of Windows XP. What has come to be known as the “Windows flag” is a cleaner more sophisticated mark than its predecessors. The version that populated the lower left hand corner of Windows PCs next to the word “Start” also gained a sense of materiality (plastic?) and a 3D effect from the rich gradients and shadows.
(http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-59-23-metablogapi/5775.4_5F00_thumb_5F00_6939816B.jpg)Windows VistaThe Windows Vista release marked the beginning of the AERO design aesthetic in Windows with a key component of the interface being the “AERO glass” effect. Replacing the green Start button was the round glass-like button with a now flattened version of the “flag” from Windows XP. Internally, this icon became known as the “pearl”. You can see the intricate lighting effects of the faux glass. In many ways signaling just how powerful of a rendering engine the PC had become. This version of the logo was largely unchanged for Windows 7.
(http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-59-23-metablogapi/1018.5_5F00_thumb_5F00_080FF54A.png)Windows 8With Windows 8, we approached the logo redesign with a few key goals on mind.
1. We wanted the new logo to be both modern and classic by echoing the International Typographic Style (or Swiss design) that has been a great influence on our Metro style design philosophy. Using bold flat colors and clean lines and shapes, the new logo has the characteristics of way-finding design systems seen in airports and subways.
2. It was important that the new logo carries our Metro principle of being “Authentically Digital”. By that, we mean it does not try to emulate faux-industrial design characteristics such as materiality (glass, wood, plastic, etc.). It has motion – aligning with the fast and fluid style you’ll find throughout Windows 8.
3. Our final goal was for the new logo to be humble, yet confident. Welcoming you in with a slight tilt in perspective and when you change your color, the logo changes to reflect you. It is a “Personal” Computer after all.


(http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Blogs-Components-WeblogFiles/00-00-00-59-23-metablogapi/6201.Win8Logo_5F00_01_5F00_thumb_5F00_23669D8A.jpg)


We hope you enjoy our new logo (http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/02/17/redesigning-the-windows-logo.aspx).
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on February 18, 2012, 07:44:47 PM
Well, the new logo is a bit boring, imo.
Guess any of us would have come up with a better design. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 18, 2012, 07:50:33 PM
It's almost a throwback to Windows 1. Certainly not progress.... IMHO
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on February 18, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
So a pretty good guess on my part having never seen/used windows 1, the first windows I used was windows 3 and came on 10 floppy disks. So they have regressed to windows 1 style logo, but failed to keep the OS lean ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 19, 2012, 05:04:35 AM
I think the new logo is terrible and looks like it was drawn by a Kindergartner with only one crayon in his box. For me, the XP logo was the best one. How can they do away with the traditional and iconic colors? It's a total failure.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: !Donovan on February 19, 2012, 02:37:25 PM
I think the new logo is terrible and looks like it was drawn by a Kindergartner with only one crayon in his box. For me, the XP logo was the best one. How can they do away with the traditional and iconic colors? It's a total failure.
Well said. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on February 19, 2012, 03:20:04 PM
I think the new logo is terrible and looks like it was drawn by a Kindergartner with only one crayon in his box. For me, the XP logo was the best one. How can they do away with the traditional and iconic colors? It's a total failure.

Its what companies spend millions on, building up a corporate identity and corporate logo, this one has thrown the baby out with the bath water. Long live the flag.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on February 19, 2012, 09:17:40 PM
Its what companies spend millions on, building up a corporate identity and corporate logo, this one has thrown the baby out with the bath water. Long live the flag.
+100 Well said.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 19, 2012, 09:55:34 PM
I think the new logo is terrible and looks like it was drawn by a Kindergartner with only one crayon in his box. For me, the XP logo was the best one. How can they do away with the traditional and iconic colors? It's a total failure.
Well said. ;D

+1
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Marc57 on February 20, 2012, 02:08:56 AM

Its what companies spend millions on, building up a corporate identity and corporate logo, this one has thrown the baby out with the bath water. Long live the flag.


Agreed, Long live the flag!
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 21, 2012, 09:56:22 PM
Here's the new logo for the latest Mac OS from the same designer who made the lame new Windows logo. Because they're not selling Apples, they're selling computers.  ;)

Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 22, 2012, 04:31:37 AM
Here's the new logo for the latest Mac OS from the same designer because it isn't an Apple, it's a computer.
And what does that have to do with Windows 8 ???
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 22, 2012, 05:28:41 AM
Here's the new logo for the latest Mac OS from the same designer because it isn't an Apple, it's a computer.
And what does that have to do with Windows 8 ???
Oh come on Bob, it's in relation to the new logo, so it does have to do with it. It's a reference to what the designer who made the new Win 8 logo would do for Apple. She asked MS why they had a flag instead of windows so I figured she'd ask the Mac folks why they have an apple instead of a computer.  I guess you didn't see the humor. I'm hurt. It took me a good 10 minutes to find an icon, edit it with Irfanview, save it and post it.  :'(
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 26, 2012, 12:04:54 PM
Quote
I figured she'd ask the Mac folks why they have an apple instead of a computer.
I figure she should have asked them why they have an Apple instead of a Hamburger ???
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Marc57 on February 29, 2012, 11:26:08 PM
Anyone trying the Windows 8 Consumer Preview? As soon as I finish the download (2.5GB) I'm going to set up a dual boot to give it a try.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on February 29, 2012, 11:31:20 PM
Anyone trying the Windows 8 Consumer Preview? As soon as I finish the download (2.5GB) I'm going to set up a dual boot to give it a try.

I'm downloading the iso yet and will try in Virtualbox.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Marc57 on February 29, 2012, 11:43:54 PM
Hey Tech, I don't really like the interface, But I though I'd give it a fair shake.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on March 01, 2012, 12:23:18 AM
I haven't seen hide nor hair of Bob today. I guess he's too busy playing with the new toy.  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on March 01, 2012, 01:01:46 AM
It's almost a throwback to Windows 1. Certainly not progress.... IMHO
I heard some people are saying windows 8 is a new beginning for Microsoft windows  so i guess that is why the new logo looks so close to windows 1's logo..  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: jadinolf on March 01, 2012, 01:20:54 AM
Thanks Bob.

You've got a good thing going here.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 01, 2012, 03:13:27 AM
Anyone trying the Windows 8 Consumer Preview? As soon as I finish the download (2.5GB) I'm going to set up a dual boot to give it a try.
I'm in the process of downloading it on two of my laptops. Unfortunately I'm on the road and the connection here at the hotel is S L O W.  :'(


7 HR's left for the download to finish on one computer and about 9 !/2 on the other......
Maybe by the time I've finished my AM presentation tomorrow, I'll know if all this waiting was worth it.  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 01, 2012, 03:26:34 AM
I've decided to install the update through the following route:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/download (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/download)


Since I already have windows 8 Dev. Preview on both of these computers I mentioned.


(http://s3.lockergnome.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Capture-1-300x234.png)   [size=78%]


[/size]Once the download is complete, Windows 8 will verify the files. This is a tempting step to skip, but believe me when I say a single misplaced 1 or 0 can cause a nightmare for you down the road. Bravo, Microsoft, for adding this in the installer.[/color][/size][size=78%]
[/size]After the verification and preparation processes are complete, the setup screen will ask you whether you’d like to install the new OS now, install it on another partition (the safer alternative if you still want to keep Windows 7), or hold off until later.[/color]
[/size](Reference - [size=78%]http://www.lockergnome.com/windows/2012/02/29/how-to-download-and-install-windows-8-consumer-preview/ (http://www.lockergnome.com/windows/2012/02/29/how-to-download-and-install-windows-8-consumer-preview/)[/size][/size] )[/font]
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Marc57 on March 01, 2012, 05:57:27 AM
For those interested there's a BUNCH of info on Windows 8 on Paul Thurrott's site (He's the guy who does the Windows Weekly podcast on TWiT).

http://www.winsupersite.com/

Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 01, 2012, 01:39:05 PM
Windows 8 Consumers Preview is installed


and, so is avast!7


(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120301-67hy-37kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120301-67hy-37kb)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utlRAxGyTnM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utlRAxGyTnM)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: pk on March 01, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
avast7 1407 isn't fully compatible with CP right now (behav shield & sandbox-based features don't wok there)
new avast7 build (expected maybe tomorrow) should be work with CP (old DevPreview build isn't supported anymore)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 01, 2012, 04:18:04 PM
Thanks for the update. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on March 01, 2012, 07:07:06 PM
Just as a point of interest, nothing to do with functionality. Do you know what the fish you see in the middle of the screen while installing the CP is and what it represents?
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on March 01, 2012, 08:06:12 PM
Just as a point of interest, nothing to do with functionality. Do you know what the fish you see in the middle of the screen while installing the CP is and what it represents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betta
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on March 01, 2012, 08:32:17 PM
Just as a point of interest, nothing to do with functionality. Do you know what the fish you see in the middle of the screen while installing the CP is and what it represents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betta
Exactly Asyn so I guess that how they're designating it as a Betta (Beta) release.  :D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on March 01, 2012, 09:07:21 PM
Exactly Asyn so I guess that how they're designating it as a Betta (Beta) release.  :D

Yep.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: rolarocka on March 01, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
Im running Win8 CP with avast right now without issues but i only have the File System Shield and Network Shield installed with a disabled AutoSandbox.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 01, 2012, 11:20:01 PM
Just as a point of interest, nothing to do with functionality. Do you know what the fish you see in the middle of the screen while installing the CP is and what it represents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betta)
Exactly Asyn so I guess that how they're designating it as a Betta (Beta) release.  :D
Well, it is beta than the last build isn't it. ???   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on March 01, 2012, 11:55:28 PM
Or, it could also mean that it's "Betta" than the first preview release.  :D

I have to say that after reading Ed Bott's article on ZD Net that I have a much more positive impression than I did before. I most likely still won't get it since I'm very happy with Win 7 but it looks a lot more workable in the consumer PC arena than it did before.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on March 07, 2012, 08:05:43 AM
Bringing back the Windows® “Start” menu

(http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/images/windows_8_plus_start8.jpg)

http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

Note : You can change the logo as well to Windows 8 logo
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Marc57 on March 07, 2012, 08:32:06 AM
Well, it is beta than the last build isn't it. ???   ;D ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/marc57/5lardh.gif)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on March 07, 2012, 11:36:58 AM
Was wondering if anyone knows if there is ReFS file system support in Windows 8 CP version?

I installed and found out that my disk is still formatted as Ntfs
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 07, 2012, 01:00:35 PM
Was wondering if anyone knows if there is ReFS file system support in Windows 8 CP version?

I installed and found out that my disk is still formatted as Ntfs
Currently only available in the Windows Server 8 Beta (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401065,00.asp).
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on March 07, 2012, 06:09:14 PM
Was wondering if anyone knows if there is ReFS file system support in Windows 8 CP version?

I installed and found out that my disk is still formatted as Ntfs
Currently only available in the Windows Server 8 Beta (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401065,00.asp).

Thanks bob
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 08, 2012, 01:23:56 AM
Was wondering if anyone knows if there is ReFS file system support in Windows 8 CP version?

I installed and found out that my disk is still formatted as Ntfs
Currently only available in the Windows Server 8 Beta (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401065,00.asp).

Thanks bob
You're welcome. I plan on installing the Win 8 Server Beta on one of my systems once I get back home just to see how much different the new format is. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 11, 2012, 04:39:54 PM
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/070/d/f/right_click_context_menu_adder_by_vishal_gupta-d41b3ll.png)


Right Click Context Menu Adder 2.0: Free Portable Utility (http://www.askvg.com/right-click-context-menu-adder-free-utility-to-add-program-shortcut-in-windows-7-desktop-context-menu/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)

to Add Program Shortcuts, Website Links, Files or Folders

in Windows 7 and Windows 8 Desktop Context Menu
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on March 12, 2012, 02:34:27 AM
To the people that is using windows 8 dev preview..  What do you think of it... do you think it will be a fail like windows vista was? (just wondering on opininos )  :D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 12, 2012, 02:59:15 AM
To the people that is using windows 8 dev preview..  What do you think of it... do you think it will be a fail like windows vista was? (just wondering on opininos )  :D
Did you read any part of this thread or are you just fishing for some answers ??? Try Google. Or even better add something to this posutive discussion.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on March 12, 2012, 03:18:35 AM
To the people that is using windows 8 dev preview..  What do you think of it... do you think it will be a fail like windows vista was? (just wondering on opininos )  :D
Did you read any part of this thread or are you just fishing for some answers ??? Try Google. Or even better add something to this posutive discussion.
I was just wondering. by the way windows 8 looks by the pictures and even the videos i watched of it on youtube.. it looks like it will be awesome.. I was asking that because i wanted to know because some people on Lockergnome's irc channel some people said they think it will be like windows vista.. i think windows 8 will be perfect.. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 12, 2012, 02:24:51 PM
Although Microsoft has removed the Start Menu we have all knows for many years, they have added something new.
Microsoft has added a new context menu which appears when you right-click on extreme bottom-left corner of screen.
(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images3/Windows_8_Consumer_Preview_Quick_Access_Menu.png)


You can also use keyboard shortcut "Win+X" to access this new quick access menu.
You can also
Customize the Quick Access Menu in Windows 8
Full details available here (http://www.askvg.com/exclusive-customize-new-quick-access-menu-win-x-menu-in-windows-8-add-remove-rename-or-move-shortcuts-and-much-more/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)

Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on March 12, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
Seems like you have the mystery size tags back in your posts.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 17, 2012, 02:39:00 AM
Windows 8 Keyboard Shortcuts (http://webtrickz.com/official-keyboard-shortcuts-for-windows-8/)


· Windows key – Brings up the Metro start screen. You can start typing to search for an app, just like the Win7 start menu.
· Win + B – Switch to the (classic) Windows desktop and select the tray notification area.
· Win + C – Brings up the Charms menu, where you can search, share, and change settings.
· Win + D – Brings up the old Windows desktop.
· Win + E – Launch Windows Explorer with Computer view displayed.
· Win + F – Brings up the Metro File search screen.
· Win + H – Opens the Metro Share panel.
· Win + I – Opens the Settings panel, where you can change settings for the current app, change volume, wireless networks, shut down, or adjust the brightness.
· Win + J – Switches focus between snapped Metro applications.
· Win + K – Opens the Devices panel (for connecting to a projector or some other device)
· Win + L – Lock PC and return to Lock screen.
· Win + M – Minimize all Windows on the desktop
· Win + O – Locks device orientation.
· Win + P – Choose between available displays.
· Win + Q – Brings up the Metro App Search screen.
· Win + R – Switch to the (classic) Windows desktop and display the Run box.
· Win + U – Switch to the (classic) Windows desktop and launch the Ease of Access Center.
· Win + V – Cycles through toasts.
· Win + W – Brings up the Metro Settings search screen.
· Win + X – Launch Start Menu.
· Win + Y – Temporarily peek at the desktop.
· Win + Z – Opens the App Bar for the current Metro application.
· Win + Page Up / Down – Moves tiles to the left / right.
· Win + Tab – Opens the Metro application switcher menu, switches between applications.
· Win + , (comma) – Aero Peek at the desktop.
· Win + . (period) – Snaps the current Metro application to one side of the screen. (Right side)
· Win + Shift + . (period) – Snaps the current Metro application to the other side of the screen. (Left side)
· Win + Space – Switch input language and keyboard layout.
· Win + Shift + V – Cycles through toasts in reverse order.
· Win + Enter – Launches Narrator
· Win + Arrow Keys – Switch to the (classic) Windows desktop and enable Aero Snap
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Marc57 on March 17, 2012, 03:21:19 AM
To the people that is using windows 8 dev preview..  What do you think of it... do you think it will be a fail like windows vista was? (just wondering on opininos )  :D

I said I would give Win 8 a fair shot, and I did. It's now off my system as I couldn't find anything I liked about it. I'm planning to buy several copies of Windows 7 to keep on hand so that if I have to get a new system after 8 comes out, I can format and install Windows 7.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 01, 2012, 07:40:53 PM
So you want to try Windows 8 but don't like the new Start Button.

Now you can use Windows 8 and still have the old familiar Start Button Functions:



(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120401-xugt-1kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120401-xugt-1kb)   (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120401-nhsq-7kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120401-nhsq-7kb)


(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120401-fofv-19kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120401-fofv-19kb)   (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120401-82x2-36kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120401-82x2-36kb)


For more information visit AskVG (http://www.askvg.com/get-start-button-orb-and-classic-start-menu-back-in-windows-8-using-classic-shell/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)


To try the Windows 8 Consumer beta Review release, use the following links:
Download Windows 8 Consumer Preview (Public Beta) ISO Images (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso)
Download Windows 8 Consumer Preview (Public Beta) (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/download)
Direct Download Links for Windows 8 Consumer Preview (Public Beta) (http://www.askvg.com/direct-download-links-windows-8-consumer-preview-public-beta/)


Use the following link to download the Classic Start button Windows 8:
Download Classic Shell (http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/files/latest)
 



Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: ClassyJakey on April 02, 2012, 04:56:52 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20110920-zrmg-51kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20110920-zrmg-51kb)

Is there a version of avast! that can be run on the current Developer Build of Windows 8 ???
It works perfectly on my consumer preview
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 02, 2012, 05:10:09 PM
@ClassyJakey


That post was made last year. At that time avast! was still version 6 and that version was not compatible with the then available
Windows 8 Developers Preview.

Currently, Windows 8 is the Consumers beta version and avast!7 is compatible with that version.

Please Don't Misquote.
Thanks
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on April 02, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
<snip image>
Is there a version of avast! that can be run on the current Developer Build of Windows 8 ???
It works perfectly on my consumer preview

Given the date of the post you quoted, 20 September 2011, that was the win8 developer build and also avast6. As mentioned later in the topic it wouldn't be compatible as MS were blocking AVs other than MSE in the developer preview.

That changed on the consumer preview, and later build versions of avast7

avast7 1407 isn't fully compatible with CP right now (behav shield & sandbox-based features don't wok there)
new avast7 build (expected maybe tomorrow) should be work with CP (old DevPreview build isn't supported anymore)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on April 17, 2012, 10:02:02 AM
Announcing the Windows 8 Editions
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 17, 2012, 12:52:44 PM



Free cheat sheet of 100 Windows 8 keyboard shortcuts (https://docs.google.com/open?id=1i3XaCxaa9JdeaD5qHQA70FYmt-g7AyPzHKWFqUuqRM8RCIfJKAb5QnIjUhG1)
(Thanks to Greg Shultz for compiling this list.)

Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 16, 2012, 03:47:30 AM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120616-tyhd-45kb.jpg) (http://youtu.be/llb2gKKoFiI)


http://youtu.be/llb2gKKoFiI (http://youtu.be/llb2gKKoFiI)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 01, 2012, 03:36:36 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120701-iq6d-54kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120701-iq6d-54kb)
How to Skip Metro Start Screen and Boot Directly into Desktop in Windows 8? (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AskVG/~3/fwW6eN9Lags/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on July 01, 2012, 04:21:49 PM
Very handy no doubt, hopefully this tool will still work when win8 goes Gold. Why the hell MS haven't included this as a regular option in win8 (skip/disable Metro) is beyond me as by far this is the least well liked part of win8 in the reviews I have read.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 01, 2012, 04:30:19 PM
Very handy no doubt, hopefully this tool will still work when win8 goes Gold. Why the hell MS haven't included this as a regular option in win8 (skip/disable Metro) is beyond me as by far this is the least well liked part of win8 in the reviews I have read.
Simple answer:
It's also the windows phone interface.
Will be the Microsoft Surface interface when it's released.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on July 01, 2012, 04:57:46 PM
I know that, but why p*** off their core users to sell a few phones, the windows phones are flying of the shelves like lead balloons.

I don't see a problem with the MS Surface using what is essentially a touch screen OS (a.k.a. Metro) as that is intuitive with the device. In fact I quite like the Surface with its incorporated keyboard in its cover, so can be used for more keyboard intensive tasks.

But working on a  large screen monitor (a.k.a. desktop) with the same interface is crazy even if it were a touch screen, who works with their arms at shoulder level.

The big clincher on the MS Surface will be exactly what incarnation of win8 it will run, the applications it can run and where it can get them. If MS are going to try the walled garden approach of Apple where you can only get apps from the MS store, who is going to buy a new system that requires you replace all of your existing software. Then it becomes a very expensive and different proposition.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 01, 2012, 06:54:39 PM
This might be bad to say with me being a microsoft windows fanboy ;D But I believe some of windows users will stay with windows 7 or switch to linux or mac..
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: YoKenny on July 01, 2012, 09:09:21 PM
Very handy no doubt, hopefully this tool will still work when win8 goes Gold. Why the hell MS haven't included this as a regular option in win8 (skip/disable Metro) is beyond me as by far this is the least well liked part of win8 in the reviews I have read.
Simple answer:
It's also the windows phone interface.
Will be the Microsoft Surface interface when it's released.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160)
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to run Windows 8!  :o
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 01, 2012, 09:20:35 PM
Very handy no doubt, hopefully this tool will still work when win8 goes Gold. Why the hell MS haven't included this as a regular option in win8 (skip/disable Metro) is beyond me as by far this is the least well liked part of win8 in the reviews I have read.
Simple answer:
It's also the windows phone interface.
Will be the Microsoft Surface interface when it's released.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160)
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to run Windows 8!  :o

What luxury ??? The current version is FREE ???
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on July 01, 2012, 09:21:36 PM
I believe some of windows users will stay with windows 7 or switch to linux or mac..

Or stay on XP...
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 01, 2012, 09:24:29 PM
Very handy no doubt, hopefully this tool will still work when win8 goes Gold. Why the hell MS haven't included this as a regular option in win8 (skip/disable Metro) is beyond me as by far this is the least well liked part of win8 in the reviews I have read.
Simple answer:
It's also the windows phone interface.
Will be the Microsoft Surface interface when it's released.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160)
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to run Windows 8!  :o
My laptop might be able was the upgrade thing.. i remember it said my computer wouldn't support secure boot though  ???
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: YoKenny on July 01, 2012, 10:46:11 PM
Very handy no doubt, hopefully this tool will still work when win8 goes Gold. Why the hell MS haven't included this as a regular option in win8 (skip/disable Metro) is beyond me as by far this is the least well liked part of win8 in the reviews I have read.
Simple answer:
It's also the windows phone interface.
Will be the Microsoft Surface interface when it's released.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160 (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/major-microsoft-announcement-16595160)
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to run Windows 8!  :o

What luxury ??? The current version is FREE ???
I do not have the luxury of having multiple systems and my XP Pro system will never run Windows 8 and my Windows 7 system works great and unless I can afford a brand new system that can run Windows 8 I highly doubt I will ever run Windows 8!  :o
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 02, 2012, 12:43:34 AM

@YoKenny,
Windows 8 happens to be less demanding on system resources than Windows 7.
If you can run windows 7, then Windows 8 will make that computer run better !
My old laptop (Dell Inspiron) which was getting tired, got revived when I installed windows 8 on that system.  :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 02, 2012, 09:48:37 PM
On Windows Facebook they just announced this upgrade to windows 8 pro for $39.99 http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/07/02/upgrade-to-windows-8-pro-for-39-99.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter   Nice and very helpful for those who don't wanna pay a very high price for it.. ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on July 02, 2012, 10:10:49 PM
That's a good deal for anyone wanting to do it. I'll pass though.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on July 02, 2012, 11:57:10 PM
How to Skip Metro Start Screen and Boot Directly into Desktop in Windows 8
http://www.askvg.com/how-to-skip-metro-start-screen-and-boot-directly-into-desktop-in-windows-8

Probably posted before, but I think it worhts :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 03, 2012, 12:23:18 AM
How to Skip Metro Start Screen and Boot Directly into Desktop in Windows 8
http://www.askvg.com/how-to-skip-metro-start-screen-and-boot-directly-into-desktop-in-windows-8 (http://www.askvg.com/how-to-skip-metro-start-screen-and-boot-directly-into-desktop-in-windows-8)

Probably posted before, but I think it worhts :)



(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120701-iq6d-54kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120701-iq6d-54kb)
How to Skip Metro Start Screen and Boot Directly into Desktop in Windows 8? (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AskVG/~3/fwW6eN9Lags/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on July 03, 2012, 12:46:04 AM
Wow... Sorry, I missed your post and though it was not that recent.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on July 03, 2012, 02:15:44 AM
Bob hid is under a nice big image ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 03, 2012, 02:53:57 AM
Sneaky :)  and more timely  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 07, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
On Windows Facebook they just announced this upgrade to windows 8 pro for $39.99 http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/07/02/upgrade-to-windows-8-pro-for-39-99.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/07/02/upgrade-to-windows-8-pro-for-39-99.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)   Nice and very helpful for those who don't wanna pay a very high price for it.. ;D
What You Need to Know About Windows 8 Upgrades (http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2012/07/05/how-you-can-get-windows-8/)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on July 10, 2012, 09:20:49 AM
FYI: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/07/09/upcoming-windows-milestones-shared-with-partners-at-wpc.aspx
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 15, 2012, 03:28:53 PM
(http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/recimg_manager.jpg)
Backup and Recovery designed for Windows 8 (https://www.slimwareutilities.com/recimg_manager.php)

Video First look at RecImg for Windows 8 (http://youtu.be/OuUFwTRhW5c)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 28, 2012, 03:04:51 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120728-n3rg-53kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120728-n3rg-53kb)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on July 28, 2012, 11:25:15 PM
I hate keyboard shortcuts and never use any. The only thing I use is the Windows key to minimize a full screen game and even that doesn't always work.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2012, 01:51:56 AM
I hate keyboard shortcuts and never use any. The only thing I use is the Windows key to minimize a full screen game and even that doesn't always work.
Is there anything that you do like ???  :D
If you don't like something, then the simple answer is "Don't use it". This was meant for those that do like shortcuts. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on July 29, 2012, 03:27:32 AM
My point was that if you need all those shortcuts, that's another point against Win 8.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2012, 01:05:33 PM
My point was that if you need all those shortcuts, that's another point against Win 8.
Since shortcuts have been around forever, I guess you should also condemn all the other operating systems.
Most programs also have shortcuts. Should they also be frowned upon for that feature ???
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on July 29, 2012, 10:33:40 PM
My point was that if you need all those shortcuts, that's another point against Win 8.
Since shortcuts have been around forever, I guess you should also condemn all the other operating systems.
Most programs also have shortcuts. Should they also be frowned upon for that feature ???
No, but it seems that in Win 8, they have become more necessary to know and use than in previous versions if you are going to use the Metro UI on a full PC.  To me, keyboard shortcuts are a throwback to the days of DOS. Windows was designed and meant to be a point and click OS and that's how I prefer to use it. I'm a confirmed clicker  ;D
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2012, 10:36:44 PM
My point was that if you need all those shortcuts, that's another point against Win 8.
Since shortcuts have been around forever, I guess you should also condemn all the other operating systems.
Most programs also have shortcuts. Should they also be frowned upon for that feature ???
No, but it seems that in Win 8, they have become more necessary to know and use than in previous versions if you are going to use the Metro UI on a full PC.  To me, keyboard shortcuts are a throwback to the days of DOS. Windows was designed and meant to be a point and click OS and that's how I prefer to use it. I'm a confirmed clicker  ;D
You obviously aren't using this on a regular or constant basis. I don't have a touch screen so I used the point and click method without any problems what so ever.
That doesn't change the fact that shortcuts have always been a method of doing some things easier if you know the shortcut.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 02, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
Windows 8 Releases to Manufacturing (RTM), TechNet and MSDN Access on August 15th, GA on October 26th (http://www.askvg.com/windows-8-rtm-in-april-2012/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)

I know what I'll be doing on 8/15/2012 :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 03, 2012, 09:10:40 PM
Bye Bye Metro hello ??? ??? ??? (http://www.zdnet.com/is-metro-now-a-banned-word-at-microsoft-7000002052/)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: YoKenny on August 03, 2012, 09:44:37 PM
Bye Bye Metro hello ??? ??? ??? (http://www.zdnet.com/is-metro-now-a-banned-word-at-microsoft-7000002052/)
Microsoft No Longer Using the “Metro” Name for Its New Interface
http://lifehacker.com/5931657/microsoft-no-longer-using-the-metro-name-for-its-new-interface
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on August 03, 2012, 09:50:32 PM
And there was me thinking it was because many thought the Metro interface stank.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 06, 2012, 03:46:12 PM
                            (http://www3.pcmag.com/media/images/353261-windows-8-security.jpg?thumb=y)
Windows 8: Secure at the Deepest Level (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2408016,00.asp)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2012, 04:46:28 AM
Installing Windows 8 (http://sdrv.ms/RiczVH)
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120816-xb3s-22kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120816-xb3s-22kb)


(Windows 8 (x64) Pro.)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2012, 05:28:59 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120816-h1vh-9kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120816-h1vh-9kb)

Less than 24 hrs ago, Microsoft released Windows 8 RTM to TechNet and MSDN subscribers.

If you're interested in trying windows 8, you can now Download a 90-Day Trial Version of Windows 8 RTM Absolutely Free:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx)


Scroll down to the bottom of the article and pick the version you need
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 17, 2012, 03:44:53 AM
Very handy no doubt, hopefully this tool will still work when win8 goes Gold. Why the hell MS haven't included this as a regular option in win8 (skip/disable Metro) is beyond me as by far this is the least well liked part of win8 in the reviews I have read.
Hello David,
I'm happy to report that this tool in deed still works on the "Gold" version of Windows 8 Pro x64:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120817-plck-85kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120817-plck-85kb)


Looking for the latest version? Download Classic Shell v3.5.1 (8.6 MB) (http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/files/Version%203.5.1%20general%20release/)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 19, 2012, 01:50:27 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120819-594p-53kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120819-594p-53kb)
The new video describing the latest version 3.6.0 which was just released,
can be found at:
http://youtu.be/6wqVMPnL1Lc (http://youtu.be/6wqVMPnL1Lc)


Click here to download the latest version from  Sourceforge . (http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/files/latest/download?utm_expid=6384-3)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on August 19, 2012, 02:01:36 PM
Your link with name text has a little typo, should be Sourceforge.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 19, 2012, 02:06:11 PM
Your link with name text has a little typo, should be Sourceforge.
Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 21, 2012, 02:00:58 AM
Windows 8 feature - Boot to desktop

Easier way without using any software

(http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/bootdesktop.jpg)


The system will boot to the desktop at startup, but only if you leave an explorer window open at shutdown. It's still a great way if you don't want to use special software, such as Stardock's Start8.

More : http://www.neowin.net/news/from-the-forums-windows-8-feature---boot-to-desktop

Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on August 21, 2012, 08:49:20 AM
Interesting Chris but why have to work around things like that in the first place when something like Classic Shell does what's needed far better.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 21, 2012, 04:11:40 PM
Interesting Chris but why have to work around things like that in the first place when something like Classic Shell does what's needed far better.

Just user preference. If someone doesn't want to install the software, then they can use this trick, especially if someone is working on their Windows 8 system. They can leave their last accessed folder open and come back to it. It is better than making many changes using Classic Shell. Classic Shell is a nice program.

It is not officially supporting Windows 8 as well. I think so because their website makes no mention of it.

Another easier way is

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"Shell"="explorer.exe /select,explorer.exe
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 21, 2012, 06:44:07 PM
Interesting Chris but why have to work around things like that in the first place when something like Classic Shell does what's needed far better.

Just user preference. If someone doesn't want to install the software, then they can use this trick, especially if someone is working on their Windows 8 system. They can leave their last accessed folder open and come back to it. It is better than making many changes using Classic Shell. Classic Shell is a nice program.

It is not officially supporting Windows 8 as well. I think so because their website makes no mention of it.

Another easier way is

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"Shell"="explorer.exe /select,explorer.exe

It does Officially support Windows 8
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120819-7lbe-39kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120819-7lbe-39kb)


Latest version is 3.6.1 (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 22, 2012, 02:17:22 AM
Interesting Chris but why have to work around things like that in the first place when something like Classic Shell does what's needed far better.

Just user preference. If someone doesn't want to install the software, then they can use this trick, especially if someone is working on their Windows 8 system. They can leave their last accessed folder open and come back to it. It is better than making many changes using Classic Shell. Classic Shell is a nice program.

It is not officially supporting Windows 8 as well. I think so because their website makes no mention of it.

Another easier way is

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"Shell"="explorer.exe /select,explorer.exe

It does Officially support Windows 8
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120819-7lbe-39kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120819-7lbe-39kb)


Latest version is 3.6.1 (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/)

Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 23, 2012, 05:09:57 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120823-dy0z-7kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120823-dy0z-7kb)


When I go to Windows Activation, I get the following:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120823-fv3k-38kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120823-fv3k-38kb)


When I select the activate the following happens:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120823-anys-19kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120823-anys-19kb)


Does any one have an answer ??? (The product is genuine that's why this doesn't make any sense.)
Mystery solved:


Enter the following into the search box:
slui.exe 3
(notice the space between exe and 3)


Select the item found under Apps:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120823-vhmc-9kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120823-vhmc-9kb)


and you'll see the following:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120823-7mnx-38kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120823-7mnx-38kb)


Now simply fill in your activation Key and you'll wind up with the following result:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120823-1ltr-31kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120823-1ltr-31kb)


Since it took quite a few hours and some luck to find this, I thought this might save someone else from getting a headache.
Title: Re: Windows 8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 23, 2012, 09:47:28 PM
How to Automatically Login in Windows 8 without entering a Password (http://webtrickz.com/how-to-automatically-login-in-windows-8-without-entering-a-password/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Webtrickz+%28WebTrickz%29)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 25, 2012, 07:10:27 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120816-h1vh-9kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120816-h1vh-9kb)

Less than 24 hrs ago, Microsoft released Windows 8 RTM to TechNet and MSDN subscribers.

If you're interested in trying windows 8, you can now Download a 90-Day Trial Version of Windows 8 RTM Absolutely Free:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx)


Scroll down to the bottom of the article and pick the version you need


Since this version can not be upgraded to the full version,
I would suggest that you install it on a separate partition or a test machine.
At the end of the 90 day trial period, this version will no longer be functional in as much as
the reminders and blank screens every hour will make it useless.
 
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 28, 2012, 03:33:01 PM
Windows 8 Multi-monitor Tips and Tricks (https://www.pcworld.com/article/261504/windows_8_multimonitor_tips_and_tricks.html)
(http://zapp5.staticworld.net/images/article/2012/08/charms_inside-11401533.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 30, 2012, 04:47:01 PM
How To Enable Aero Transparency In Windows 8 RTM

http://www.intowindows.com/enable-aero-glass-in-windows-8/
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 30, 2012, 11:05:36 PM
            (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120830-kzz8-28kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120830-kzz8-28kb)

Another well know company (Stardock) brings you Windows 8 your way. (http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 31, 2012, 12:44:21 AM
If you don't want to go through the hassle of installing it,
Here's a video I just put together:

Start8 from Stardock - another start menu option in Windows 8
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120830-tad0-55kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120830-tad0-55kb)
http://youtu.be/F2iDWAaLQdQ
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on September 01, 2012, 11:42:19 AM
Reduce the size of window borders in Windows 8

http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/28200-tiny_windows_borders_for_windows_8
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 02, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
(http://whatsonmypc.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/image28.png?w=282&h=401) (http://winaero.com/download.php?view.34)
Click here to go to authors Site for the download. (http://winaero.com/download.php?view.34)
There is also a version for windows 7 included in the download.
Make sure you run the correct version.









Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Jesant13 on September 02, 2012, 09:52:00 PM
I learned about a utility called JumpControl which adds some power options to the Windows 8 taskbar. (http://www.jkwebtalks.com/2012/09/enable-power-options-to-windows-8.html) I have not used Windows 8 or the program but since I know some people are using Windows 8 I decided to post this.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 03, 2012, 05:53:43 AM
I learned about a utility called JumpControl which adds some power options to the Windows 8 taskbar. (http://www.jkwebtalks.com/2012/09/enable-power-options-to-windows-8.html) I have not used Windows 8 or the program but since I know some people are using Windows 8 I decided to post this.
Sorry, but it makes no sense to me to install something that's already available within Windows 8.
simply hit the CTRL Alt Del key combo and then select the shutdown option which gives you all the options this utility does.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on September 03, 2012, 07:22:30 AM
I learned about a utility called JumpControl which adds some power options to the Windows 8 taskbar. (http://www.jkwebtalks.com/2012/09/enable-power-options-to-windows-8.html) I have not used Windows 8 or the program but since I know some people are using Windows 8 I decided to post this.
I think that would be nice to have since Win 8 has no readily accessible shutdown procedure. Hitting ctrl-alt-delete in Windows has always brought up task manager which has the shutdown options but that is a very convoluted way of doing it in my opinion. Shutdown should be directly available from the desktop interface.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 03, 2012, 02:33:50 PM
Quote
Shutdown should be directly available from the desktop interface.
Simple answer, it isn't so you either use what's available or learn something new or, find alternatives.
A start button should also be there according to many of us but it isn't so you either
learn to live without it or, use a utility like Classic Shell (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/) to bring it back.
If you choose the latter, you restore everything including "shut down" and, still have the "Metro Desktop" when you want to use it.
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120903-0iyb-51kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120903-0iyb-51kb)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Jesant13 on September 03, 2012, 09:30:23 PM
Some music and video content can be viewed using the Xbox Music and Xbox Video apps. (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CD4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winsupersite.com%2Farticle%2Fwindows8%2Fwindows-8-tip-view-content-default-xbox-music-video-apps-144156&ei=gANFUImDKciw6gHcpYHAAQ&usg=AFQjCNG0Umf3EyCMSaS4JyqNIINg1ibWtA&sig2=uGHOBkfYKXRPydJEUW4V9A) I learned this using Google Search.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 03, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
Some music and video content can be viewed using the Xbox Music and Xbox Video apps. (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CD4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winsupersite.com%2Farticle%2Fwindows8%2Fwindows-8-tip-view-content-default-xbox-music-video-apps-144156&ei=gANFUImDKciw6gHcpYHAAQ&usg=AFQjCNG0Umf3EyCMSaS4JyqNIINg1ibWtA&sig2=uGHOBkfYKXRPydJEUW4V9A) I learned this using Google Search.
I presume that you need an XBox in order to use this. ???
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Jesant13 on September 03, 2012, 10:38:53 PM
I did some research and it seems to me that isn't the case. I looked at the English Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Music), and I didn't see anything saying that an Xbox 360 is required. I also looked at some results on Google Search and didn't see anything saying one is required either.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 03, 2012, 10:43:37 PM
I did some research and it seems to me that isn't the case. I looked at the English Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Music), and I didn't see anything saying that an Xbox 360 is required. I also looked at some results on Google Search and didn't see anything saying one is required either.
So where is the app???  (program)
("The [/size]Xbox Music Mixer[/size] allows one to transfer certain types of music and pictures directly from a [/size]PC (http://)[/color][/size] to the [/size]Xbox (http://)[/color]")
It's an Xbox application not a windows 8 application other than the fact that it allows you to transfer from Win8 to the Xbox.

Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Jesant13 on September 03, 2012, 10:56:45 PM
I have done some research and I don't think it has been released yet. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft is waiting until the final version of Windows 8 is released.

I found something explaining how to enable the Hibernate option (http://www.kunal-chowdhury.com/2012/09/how-to-enable-hibernate-option-in-windows8-rtm-power-menu.html) in Windows 8. I have not looked at every post in this thread so if this has already been covered before I think that would be the reason why.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 03, 2012, 11:00:57 PM
 I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft is waiting until the final version of Windows 8 is released.
The final version has been released just not to the general public. :)
(That will happen in October.)

Hibernate is very easy for me:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120903-wnmz-40kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120903-wnmz-40kb)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Jesant13 on September 03, 2012, 11:14:25 PM
To clarify, that's what I meant. I knew it had been released to manufacturing already and that it would be released to the general public in October. As for your screenshot I think that's cool. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on September 03, 2012, 11:57:14 PM
I have done some research and I don't think it has been released yet. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft is waiting until the final version of Windows 8 is released.

I found something explaining how to enable the Hibernate option (http://www.kunal-chowdhury.com/2012/09/how-to-enable-hibernate-option-in-windows8-rtm-power-menu.html) in Windows 8. I have not looked at every post in this thread so if this has already been covered before I think that would be the reason why.
Hibernation is one of the first things I disable so it wouldn't be a problem for me.  :D
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on September 04, 2012, 12:20:05 AM
Hibernation is one of the first things I disable
Why?
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on September 04, 2012, 01:04:08 AM
Whilst unrelated to win8 - I don't like hibernation either, takes up lots of hard disk space and really doesn't save that much time (I'm never in that much of a hurry). So I just let it go into standby, which the default action when I close my netbook takes about 15 sec to come out of standby and that is fast enough for me.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 04, 2012, 01:07:20 AM
My laptop is on most of the day and is shut off at night. So neither hibernation or sleep mode are something I use normally.
Sleep mode occasionally; hybernation, never.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Jesant13 on September 04, 2012, 02:39:32 AM
I found something called Seven Tips for Customizing Windows 8 - For Dummies (http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/seven-tips-for-customizing-windows-8.html). I think some people will find this helpful.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on September 04, 2012, 02:58:42 AM
Hibernation is one of the first things I disable
Why?
I find it to be useless to me and a waste of hard drive space. If I'm going to be away from the computer, I shut it down totally. It's always better to start with a fresh boot. Currently, I even have standby turned off. It has lost me too many downloads in the past by shutting down in the middle of things. I just have the monitor shut off after 30 minutes and that's it.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Jesant13 on September 04, 2012, 03:16:35 AM
I came across something named Windows 8 - Windows 8 Multimonitor Tips and Tricks (http://www.forumswindows8.com/info/windows-8-multimonitor-tips-tricks-382.html). I think it is interesting.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 04, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images2/ViStart.png)


ViStart 8 (http://www.askvg.com/vistart-a-windows-vista-start-menu-clone-for-windows-xp/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29) is another alternative to the missing Start Menu in Windows 8



Lots of features like:


Ultra blur support
Brand new Windows 7 start menu skin
Complete control over skin customization
Custom start menu button support
Compatible with Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8


(Thanks to AskVG for this suggestion)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 14, 2012, 07:24:20 PM

(http://ak.buy.com/PI/0/300/217111104.jpg) (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-vSic0iJgyeRDczMlpFOHJMREU)

Windows 8 and a Dell Inspiron Mini (10.1) (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-vSic0iJgyeRDczMlpFOHJMREU)
(And they said it couldn't be done.)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Charyb-0 on September 17, 2012, 06:15:48 PM
There is a new security solution released specifically for Windows 8. It looks like a good one. It has detected 15 infections!

 ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 17, 2012, 06:20:38 PM
There is a new antivirus solution released specifically for Windows 8. It looks like a good one. It has detected 15 infections!

 ;D
I hope you didn't install it since it's a Rogue AV:
http://www.hotforsecurity.com/blog/windows-8-users-lured-with-fake-dedicated-security-tool-3488.html?goback=%2Egde_1003727_member_164536129 (http://www.hotforsecurity.com/blog/windows-8-users-lured-with-fake-dedicated-security-tool-3488.html?goback=%2Egde_1003727_member_164536129)


Stick with avast! and you can't go wrong.  :)

Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Charyb-0 on September 17, 2012, 06:23:31 PM
No I didn't install it. I'm just screwing around. The link you posted is where I found it. As you can see, the image at the link you posted also detected 15 infections. The bad guys never sleep.  :D
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on September 17, 2012, 08:17:07 PM
They could do with brushing up on their spelling grammar and proof reading whilst they aren't sleeping.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 19, 2012, 09:40:59 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120919-6nc3-38kb.jpg)


Are you running Windows 8 and are using avast! Internet Suite ???
Are you having a problem getting the Modern "Metro" Apps to run ???


One of the users has found a fix and you'll find it at:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=103987.msg838902#msg838902 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=103987.msg838902#msg838902)


Thank you robmadden1. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2012, 02:25:47 AM

(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images4/Delete_Confirmation_Box_Windows_8.png)
Restoring the "delete file" confirmation in Windows 8 (http://www.askvg.com/how-to-enable-delete-confirmation-dialog-box-in-windows-8/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)


( This is disabled by default in Windows 8 )
(I happen to like it disabled but not every one does.)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on September 21, 2012, 06:00:50 AM
Can you still completely delete the file  by holding down shift and clicking delete? I personally always do that and never let anything hit the Recycle Bin. If I say delete, that is exactly what I mean, not save it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2012, 10:02:59 AM
Can you still completely delete the file  by holding down shift and clicking delete? I personally always do that and never let anything hit the Recycle Bin. If I say delete, that is exactly what I mean, not save it somewhere else.
The delete function hasn't changed.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2012, 12:05:43 AM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120926-cbrv-24kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120926-cbrv-24kb)

Start8 (http://sdcbase.stardock.com/bounce/?url=http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/?ref=start8beta_sept2012_weburl&utm_source=StardockSoftware&utm_medium=email&utm_term=09262012&utm_content=Start8%2BBeta&utm_campaign=Put%2Bthe%2BStart%2BButton%2BBack%2Bin%2BWindows%2B8) BETA Update Available Now!Stardock heard the cries from Windows 8 users when they found out the start menu had been removed from Windows 8.
We accurately recreated the most used desktop feature billions of users depend on every day, packed it with additional functionality and named it Start8
.(http://www.stardock.com/media/Mailers/start8/start8beta_sept2012/images/button.learnmore.png) (http://sdcbase.stardock.com/bounce/?url=http://stardock.com/products/start8/download.asp?ref=start8beta_sept2012_learnmore&utm_source=StardockSoftware&utm_medium=email&utm_term=09262012&utm_content=Start8%2BBeta&utm_campaign=Put%2Bthe%2BStart%2BButton%2BBack%2Bin%2BWindows%2B8)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 10, 2012, 12:20:43 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121019-niyi-77kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121019-niyi-77kb)


Navigating your way around Windows 8: Customize the Start Screen (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tuPXg8iu7CCFODfHW9XGuhpvO9_mcL0Gu28GZQIpaz8/edit)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 19, 2012, 12:09:16 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121019-ophx-50kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121019-ophx-50kb)
(Almost) Complete guide to using Windows 8 (http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57529213-285/complete-guide-to-using-windows-8-roundup/)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 20, 2012, 02:44:20 AM
I'm terrified of Windows 8
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/im-terrified-of-windows-8-20121019-27uy5.html

I'm not 100% sure where to post this so I'll stick it here, and I have to agree with this article.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 21, 2012, 01:44:25 AM
I'm terrified of Windows 8
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/im-terrified-of-windows-8-20121019-27uy5.html (http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/im-terrified-of-windows-8-20121019-27uy5.html)

I'm not 100% sure where to post this so I'll stick it here, and I have to agree with this article.
I've used it for over a year and I'm very happy with it.
Like anything new, you need to get used to it. Once you do that, it's a pleasure to use.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 23, 2012, 02:25:29 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121023-jn0h-18kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121023-jn0h-18kb)



Start Screen Pinner (http://winaero.com/download.php?view.36)
This one can pin ANYTHING to your Start Screen in Windows 8:
Any file - not only executables.
Any folder
Any applet/active x, for example, "Run" command or "God mode" folder
Any Library
I just added the latest version of my presentation to the Desktop:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121023-kc4i-153kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121023-kc4i-153kb)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 24, 2012, 06:37:06 PM
(http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-17-44-metablogapi/6675.IntroducingWin8_5F00_for_5F00_ITPros_5F00_thumb_5F00_50D7CC96.jpg)


Free ebook: Introducing Windows 8 (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/microsoft_press/archive/2012/10/23/free-ebook-introducing-windows-8-an-overview-for-it-professionals.aspx)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 25, 2012, 08:34:49 AM
Thanks for the W8 ebook link Bob ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 25, 2012, 05:25:27 PM
Thanks for the W8 ebook link Bob ;)
You're welcome. Just remember that you learn more through using the program than you'll ever learn from a book. :)


Official release day is Oct 26.  :) :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on October 25, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
Official release day is Oct 26.  :) :)

National holiday here. Not related to the release, though. ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 25, 2012, 08:42:41 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121025-5owt-34kb.jpg)


A simple to use Guide to Windows 8 (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-vSic0iJgyec2tlZGhod19TZDA)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 25, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
Get Free License Key of "Windows Media Center Pack" for Windows 8 (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/feature-packs)

The offer is valid from October 26, 2012 to January 31, 2013 and the product key must be activated no later than January 31, 2013.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 26, 2012, 03:32:36 PM

Google Search is ready for Windows 8

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121026-ro0w-50kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121026-ro0w-50kb)
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121026-eq5m-57kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121026-eq5m-57kb)
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121026-ky2t-50kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121026-ky2t-50kb)
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121026-4eus-85kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121026-4eus-85kb)
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121026-uzgv-157kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121026-uzgv-157kb)
Download the Google Search app by following the instruction from the google website:
http://support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2794285&topic=2794216&ctx=topic (http://support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2794285&topic=2794216&ctx=topic)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 27, 2012, 05:19:31 AM
(http://puu.sh/1j9yz)


Another Windows 8 Primer - this one is from lifehacker (http://lifehacker.com/5955102/everything-you-need-to-know-about-windows-8?utm_source=Lifehacker+Newsletter&utm_campaign=4adc26b2d5-UA-142218-1&utm_medium=email)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 28, 2012, 01:30:42 PM
(http://content.screencast.com/users/bob3160/folders/Snagit/media/987efc5f-6cfc-4bf7-9315-ec29e27325f1/10.28.2012-06.25.png) (http://youtu.be/8PbqyjR5gzk)


Getting Windows 8 for $39.99 isn't so easy if you already have Windows 8 installed on your computer! (http://youtu.be/8PbqyjR5gzk)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 30, 2012, 01:21:05 AM
(http://puu.sh/1kjh1)


http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on October 30, 2012, 01:52:38 AM
My brother just got a new computer with windows 8 on it.. I'm surprised by the look of the start menu/metro thing that replaced the start menu.. Microsoft totally went some where good.. Its like the tiles are like little windows that shows an icon of an app..
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: .: Mac :. on October 30, 2012, 12:27:43 PM
Just want to say thanks to Bob and everyone for these tips, Really helping me through my Windows 8 transition especially the classic start menu!
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 30, 2012, 03:35:33 PM
My pleasure Kyle. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 31, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
Got an old program that doesn't run right in Windows 8,
try the
Windows 8 Copatibility Troubleshooter


(http://puu.sh/1kQ9P)   (http://puu.sh/1kQav)
(http://puu.sh/1kQbh)   (http://puu.sh/1kQbP)
(http://puu.sh/1kQcb)   (http://puu.sh/1kQcM)
                      (http://puu.sh/1kQfe)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 31, 2012, 02:17:32 PM
You can also right click any program which is giving you a problem and select the option from the pull down menue:
(http://puu.sh/1kQkJ) 


Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 31, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
Users who recently upgraded their PC to Windows 8 using the Windows Upgrade Assistant and perhaps selected the "install now" option or cancelled the download, might be looking for a way to download Windows 8 setup as an ISO.
Click here for full instructions (http://webtrickz.com/download-windows-8-iso-using-your-genuine-product-key/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Webtrickz+%28WebTrickz%29)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 01, 2012, 12:55:39 PM

(http://i.technet.microsoft.com/jj687764.tips-and-tricks_play(en-us,MSDN.10).jpg) (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/jj721667)
Windows 8 Jump Start (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/jj687764.aspx?ocid=wc-tn-feature&Loc=zbtfz_zYFCz&type=zEVz&prod=zWin8z&lc=1033)
Learn Windows 8 from the experts.
Over 6 Hours of instructions.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 01, 2012, 02:50:21 PM

(http://puu.sh/1lbZP)
Windows 8 Super Guide (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411454,00.asp)
If you've installed it, her's more guides to help you learn your new OS
If you're thinking about it, this might help you decide. :)
(I'm already totally committed - have been since early beta.)


Many of the questions you might have, are probably already answered
In This Thread (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85094.0) :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Reddax on November 02, 2012, 01:02:20 AM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/5a28eo.jpg)
Any idea how to remove the "ENG" from my taskbar?
Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 02, 2012, 01:45:12 AM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/5a28eo.jpg)
Any idea how to remove the "ENG" from my taskbar?
Much appreciated.
What does the ENG signify ??? If eith click on it or right click, what information is revealed ???
I don't have it but I'm in the US not in ENGland. 
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Reddax on November 02, 2012, 11:51:46 AM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/34h786u.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 02, 2012, 02:03:26 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/34h786u.jpg)
You have the Language Bar turned on. To turn it off, see the following instructions:
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5904-language-bar-turn-off-windows-8-a.html (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5904-language-bar-turn-off-windows-8-a.html)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 02, 2012, 03:03:20 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121102-qk9s-12kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121102-qk9s-12kb)
Dell is offering a free copy of "Windows 8 for Dummies: Dell Pocket Edition" in e-book form (http://marketing.dell.com/windows-8-ebook).
All you do is complete a short form and bam, you've got a universally compatible PDF.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 03, 2012, 03:51:49 PM
(http://puu.sh/1lWhQ)

           Get a Free Windows 8 E-book Directly from Microsoft (http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/1/E/B1E7F4C9-304D-456C-BD96-A2287FA7871D/Microsoft_Press_ebook_Introducing_Windows_8_Free_Preview_PDF.pdf)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 03, 2012, 05:49:00 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1387225639769-28333.png)
              Connecting to WiFi in Windows 8 (http://youtu.be/1LrC7jHzzr8)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 07, 2012, 02:46:15 PM

(http://winaero.com/e107_images/newspost_images/winxeditor.png)


Win+X Menu Editor for Windows 8 (http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.30)
allows you to add or remove Win+X menu items
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 09, 2012, 12:58:33 PM

(http://zapt1.staticworld.net/images/article/2012/11/tip_primar-100011253-gallery.jpg) (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012885/20-must-know-windows-8-tips-and-tricks.html#tk.nl_pcwbest)
20 must-know Windows 8 tips and tricks (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012885/20-must-know-windows-8-tips-and-tricks.html#tk.nl_pcwbest)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 09, 2012, 05:16:32 PM
So far I like Windows8.
The Laptop was given to me with this installation: 'Release Preview Evaluation copy. Build 8400'
I'm guessing this validation will only last for so long (I don't know how long??) and then a Key will need to be purchased.
So I decided to through the 'buy key online' function and continually get this 'error'
Any ideas/solution?
Anyone  else have this problem?
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 09, 2012, 05:18:23 PM
Went  through this option :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on November 10, 2012, 02:00:23 AM
Stardock Decor8: Personalize Windows 8 Start Screen

(http://stardock.com/products/decor8/images/header.png)


http://stardock.com/products/decor8/
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: MaxLV on November 10, 2012, 03:25:23 AM
Tried all the third party Start button options (that I can find with Google) in the two weeks since I upgraded to Windows 8 from 7. 

All have been uninstalled, as IMHO they're just an unneeded duplication of the Start screen, the windows key + x, and Stablauncher (stablauncher.com/) that I have been using since XP.

Even that is a bit redundant now as most of the programs I have in Stablauncher I have loaded and run from the start screen.


Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on November 10, 2012, 11:38:52 AM
For me, the Classic Shell is the tool.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 10, 2012, 03:40:03 PM
Stardock Decor8: Personalize Windows 8 Start Screen

(http://stardock.com/products/decor8/images/header.png)


http://stardock.com/products/decor8/ (http://stardock.com/products/decor8/)
You're a little late. This was already covered some time back. It also isn't free.
Totally agree with Tech, Classic Shell (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/) rocks.
See the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wqVMPnL1Lc&feature=g-crec-u)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on November 10, 2012, 04:00:33 PM
I'm getting the itch to try Windows 8 but I don't want to install it on any of the machines I have. I checked the upgrade advisor and I would lose too much functionality of some things that are key to me. The biggest thing is that I would lose DvD playback on all machines since none of my current solutions are compatible. The XP machine has HP QuickPlay which can play a DVD from a single button push when the machine is off, only loading the necessary parts of Windows and not having to do a complete boot. This feature was removed for Vista because they couldn't make it work in that OS. Some of the HP specific drivers and utilities are also not compatible. Another big issue is my legacy games that I had to do a lot of configuration to get working, especially in Win 7 and there are a couple that will only work on the XP machine.

Therefore I'm left with the option of buying a new machine with Win 8 preloaded and I can't justify that.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 10, 2012, 04:07:46 PM
@ Dch48,
Is there a question or a solution in your post ???
Your games should work fine in Windows 8. if they don't, use the Compatibility Wizard. (Covered in this topic.)
Windows 8 currently offers a free upgrade to Media Center through 1/31/2013 which will address your
ability to play DVD's. (Covered earlier in this topic.)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on November 10, 2012, 04:19:47 PM
I'm getting the itch to try Windows 8 but I don't want to install it on any of the machines I have. I checked the upgrade advisor and I would lose too much functionality of some things that are key to me. The biggest thing is that I would lose DvD playback on all machines since none of my current solutions are compatible. The XP machine has HP QuickPlay which can play a DVD from a single button push when the machine is off, only loading the necessary parts of Windows and not having to do a complete boot. This feature was removed for Vista because they couldn't make it work in that OS. Some of the HP specific drivers and utilities are also not compatible. Another big issue is my legacy games that I had to do a lot of configuration to get working, especially in Win 7 and there are a couple that will only work on the XP machine.

Therefore I'm left with the option of buying a new machine with Win 8 preloaded and I can't justify that.

You first have to check the HP website if your pc has any Windows 8 driver updates, if not, check the component manufactures website.

Yes, some games are not compatible with Windows 8 especially online games. But they will update it soon.

I had a hard time playing Battlefield Heroes but they released an update for Punkbuster so its ok now.

Or you can save all important files and everything and take some time off and install Windows 8 and check for yourself if its worth it and if not, you can revert back to Windows 7.

You shouldn't buy a new pc now. Wait till Intel's Haswell chips are out by the middle of next year.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 10, 2012, 05:17:09 PM
Quote
You shouldn't buy a new pc now. Wait till Intel's Haswell chips are out by the middle of next year.
The problem with that philosophy is that you'll never buy a new PC.
There are always new releases just around the corner.  At the speed that technology is advancing,
something new is outdated within month of it's purchase.  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on November 10, 2012, 06:16:27 PM
You're a little late. This was already covered some time back. It also isn't free.
Totally agree with Tech, Classic Shell (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/) rocks.
Start8 is what I prefer, Classic Shell was alright but I found Start8 to provide a slightly more authentic and professional windows 7 look and function to the start menu plus it's only $5 for lifetime license which come's with the auto updating which is handy.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on November 10, 2012, 09:06:14 PM
You're a little late. This was already covered some time back. It also isn't free.
Totally agree with Tech, Classic Shell (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/) rocks.
Start8 is what I prefer, Classic Shell was alright but I found Start8 to provide a slightly more authentic and professional windows 7 look and function to the start menu plus it's only $5 for lifetime license which come's with the auto updating which is handy.
Why does people miss the start menu so much? Personally if I had a windows 8 pc I wouldn't get the start menu back.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on November 10, 2012, 09:10:01 PM
Why does people miss the start menu so much? Personally if I had a windows 8 pc I wouldn't get the start menu back.

Because they're used to it. ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 10, 2012, 11:44:09 PM
So far I like Windows8.
The Laptop was given to me with this installation: 'Release Preview Evaluation copy. Build 8400'
I'm guessing this validation will only last for so long (I don't know how long??) and then a Key will need to be purchased.
So I decided to through the 'buy key online' function and continually get this 'error'
Any ideas/solution?
Anyone  else have this problem?

Hey any input about my issue ??? :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: essexboy on November 10, 2012, 11:54:53 PM
I do not believe the preview can be upgraded and unlocked
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 11, 2012, 12:16:13 AM
I do not believe the preview can be upgraded and unlocked

Thanks essexboy, but I'm not sure I understand.
Totally new to this process
How do I get from this Preview installation to "Windows8 Pro"??  ???
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: gdiloren on November 11, 2012, 01:07:38 AM
So far I like Windows8.
The Laptop was given to me with this installation: 'Release Preview Evaluation copy. Build 8400'
I'm guessing this validation will only last for so long (I don't know how long??) and then a Key will need to be purchased.
So I decided to through the 'buy key online' function and continually get this 'error'
Any ideas/solution?
Anyone  else have this problem?


I upgraded to win 8 Pro from a licenced Win 7 Home Premium. So far, if you haven't bought any Windows product, you'll have to purchase the Win 8 Pro CD-ROM. Another option is to try Linux Ubuntu for example if you're comfortable with that. It's free!
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 11, 2012, 01:54:10 AM
I do not believe the preview can be upgraded and unlocked

Thanks essexboy, but I'm not sure I understand.
Totally new to this process
How do I get from this Preview installation to "Windows8 Pro"??  ???
A new install.  :(
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: gdiloren on November 11, 2012, 02:41:12 AM
Personnal opinion. May be the hardware transition is not yet there (tactile monitor, drivers for ethernet and network cards...) but I'm disappointed with Windows 8 on desktops and laptops and wouldn't recommend it for now. It looks like Microsoft marketing and offensive is to grab some of the Apple market (but they failed). I'm worried now about Microsoft's future although it's still in shape in the NASDAQ,,,!
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 11, 2012, 04:13:32 AM
Personnal opinion. May be the hardware transition is not yet there (tactile monitor, drivers for ethernet and network cards...) but I'm disappointed with Windows 8 on desktops and laptops and wouldn't recommend it for now. It looks like Microsoft marketing and offensive is to grab some of the Apple market (but they failed). I'm worried now about Microsoft's future although it's still in shape in the NASDAQ,,,!
As someone who has used it for almost a year, I disagree with you. If your system was able to run Windows 7,
It will run Windows 8. There are some things that run on windows 8 that could not run on Windows 7.
Yes, there is a learning curve but there was also a learning curve when XP was released. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on November 11, 2012, 05:55:41 AM
Why does people miss the start menu so much? Personally if I had a windows 8 pc I wouldn't get the start menu back.

Because they're used to it. ;)
Plus Start8 and Classic Start also give's the feature of booting straight to the desktop rather than the modern UI :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 11, 2012, 06:58:55 PM
(http://puu.sh/1p3bu) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_oKbLrl2Q4)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_oKbLrl2Q4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_oKbLrl2Q4)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 12, 2012, 12:02:35 AM
So far I like Windows8.
The Laptop was given to me with this installation: 'Release Preview Evaluation copy. Build 8400'
I'm guessing this validation will only last for so long (I don't know how long??) and then a Key will need to be purchased.
So I decided to through the 'buy key online' function and continually get this 'error'
Any ideas/solution?
Anyone  else have this problem?


I upgraded to win 8 Pro from a licenced Win 7 Home Premium. So far, if you haven't bought any Windows product, you'll have to purchase the Win 8 Pro CD-ROM. Another option is to try Linux Ubuntu for example if you're comfortable with that. It's free!

Thanks, I appreciate it. :)

@Bob  Ah crap. :(
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 12, 2012, 12:53:55 PM
@ schmidthouse,
It really isn't that big a deal. Your personal (user) information is always easy to bring over.
The only thing that's more troublesome are re-installing your programs.
Since it usually saves your old information in the 'Old Windows' folder, it makes that task very simple.
If the program doesn't need registry entries or store anything in the Windows folder, simply copy the entire folder from
'Old Windows\ Program Files to the current Program Files folder. 
The rest will need to be re-installed.
I just went through that when I decided to go from Windows 8 Enterprise to Windows 8 Pro.
It was also a good way to get rid of some of the crap I had accumulated.  :)


Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 12, 2012, 07:01:22 PM
@ schmidthouse,
It really isn't that big a deal. Your personal (user) information is always easy to bring over.
The only thing that's more troublesome are re-installing your programs.
Since it usually saves your old information in the 'Old Windows' folder, it makes that task very simple.
If the program doesn't need registry entries or store anything in the Windows folder, simply copy the entire folder from
'Old Windows\ Program Files to the current Program Files folder. 
The rest will need to be re-installed.
I just went through that when I decided to go from Windows 8 Enterprise to Windows 8 Pro.
It was also a good way to get rid of some of the crap I had accumulated.  :)

Thanks Bob.
Now please bare with me as I have now caught my breath( having not known/expected) when I received the laptop. Anyway its all good.  ;)
Now, I intend to buy the Windows8 Pro Pack delivered on Disk. I certainly don't want to take to a tech. I'm sure there's help here
How do I uninstall this existing Preview copy? ???
Can I/do I simply input the New Windows8 Pro Disk and the process will take care of uninstalling "Preview Eval Copy" and then installing Validated Version.
Thanks for any input 8)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 12, 2012, 11:42:37 PM
If you're doing a clean install then everything else will be gone.
Make sure that you have access (a backup on an external media)  to any personal stuff you want to restore later.


(Why not download the .iso file, burn it yourself and save some money.)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: gdiloren on November 13, 2012, 05:29:45 PM
I'm having a hard time with Win 8 Pro, especially from installing third party antivirus (their forums are reporting issues with Win 8), From http://www.eightforums.com/#windows-8-forums (http://www.eightforums.com/#windows-8-forums) I learned that Win 8 protects from 85% of viruses you normally get in other Win OS. Furthermore, WD has an antivirus function in Win 8 so they push us to use their embedded solution! :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 13, 2012, 06:09:17 PM
I'm having a hard time with Win 8 Pro, especially from installing third party antivirus (their forums are reporting issues with Win 8) , From http://www.eightforums.com/#windows-8-forums (http://www.eightforums.com/#windows-8-forums) I learned that Win 8 protects from 85% of viruses you normally get in other Win OS. Furthermore, WD has an antivirus function in Win 8 so they push us to use their embedded solution! :)
There isn't any problem installing avast! I've been using it for many month. The latest version of avast! is the first third party AV certified Windows 8 compatible:
https://blog.avast.com/2012/11/05/avast-is-first-free-antivirus-to-be-windows-8-compatible/ (https://blog.avast.com/2012/11/05/avast-is-first-free-antivirus-to-be-windows-8-compatible/)
It certainly does a better job than the default installed in windows 8:

(https://blog.avast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/avast-MSE-comparison1.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 13, 2012, 06:16:53 PM
If you're doing a clean install then everything else will be gone.
Make sure that you have access (a backup on an external media)  to any personal stuff you want to restore later.


(Why not download the .iso file, burn it yourself and save some money.)

Nah, I'll probably get the disk.
I'm still not sure as the best way to uninstall Preview copy clean so HD is ready for the Validated Windows PRo install.
Didn't quite follow your response, sorry ??? :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Mayflower on November 15, 2012, 10:06:16 AM
Any one else having trouble installing KB2756872 ?  :(
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 15, 2012, 02:53:05 PM
Any one else having trouble installing KB2756872 ?  :(
Not an update my system needed. See if this is of any help:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_update/windows-8-update-failure-kb2756872-kb2768703-gets/665e2350-855e-47cf-ae61-4a915f9de810 (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_update/windows-8-update-failure-kb2756872-kb2768703-gets/665e2350-855e-47cf-ae61-4a915f9de810)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2777330 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2777330)

Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Mayflower on November 17, 2012, 05:19:06 PM
Reinstalled W8. Now it´s working.  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 18, 2012, 05:20:41 PM
(http://puu.sh/1rAPm) (http://code.google.com/p/power8/)
The start menu replacer for Win8, styled and integrated inside taskbar. (http://code.google.com/p/power8/)

Benefits:
No system files patching
No hooks over system objects
No app-init DLLs
No additional services, drivers, etc
No trash in registry
No installation - just unpack and launch
Small, fast and powerful
Open-source
(I haven't personally tried this program.)
( My favorite is still ClassicShell (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/) )
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 20, 2012, 10:06:44 PM
This quite possibly has been mentioned but I had no luck spotting anything.
I've noticed with Win8 that the GUI's of much of my software as well as FF 16.2 I might add that are very small print/font size
Dam hard to read :o
Might anyone have a solution?   :-\
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 20, 2012, 10:27:41 PM
This quite possibly has been mentioned but I had no luck spotting anything.
I've noticed with Win8 that the GUI's of much of my software as well as FF 16.2 I might add that are very small print/font size
Dam hard to read :o
Might anyone have a solution?   :-\
If you can't read your screen anymore and the problem isn't your glasses, try Ctrl + on a PC to enlarge or,
Ctrl - to make the font size smaller.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 20, 2012, 10:33:09 PM
For a permanent change, use the following:

Select > Make text and other items larger or smaller
(http://puu.sh/1ss7d)


Let me know if that solves your problem. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 20, 2012, 10:43:22 PM
@Bob.
Now that's what I'm talking about...lol :o
Thanks for your time, always appreciated.
Yeh, who needs glasses now. 8) ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: phil2 on November 20, 2012, 10:57:01 PM

@Bob
Another grateful soul...firefox was driving me nuts and I wear glasses!! Thanks to you all fixed!  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 20, 2012, 11:26:26 PM
Glad to be able to help. :) (All the time spent with Windows 8 makes this easier. )
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 20, 2012, 11:36:01 PM
If you're using Google Chrome, you can also use the Ctrl Key and the mouse wheel (Up is larger - - Down is smaller)
This also work in IE and probably in Firefox. (I don't have FF installed so can't test it.)


There is another way to accomplish this in chrome and it's explained in the following video:
http://youtu.be/Z5y8O_JbXUs (http://youtu.be/Z5y8O_JbXUs)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 22, 2012, 12:18:35 AM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121121-httf-11kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121121-httf-11kb)Microsoft gives away Windows 8 Pro to pirates by accident. (http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-gives-away-windows-8-pro-to-pirates-by-accident-7000007718/?s_cid=e539)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on November 22, 2012, 02:18:46 PM
Is this dotted lines normal? Whenever I click the volume icon, I see this dotted lines.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2vs41a1.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 22, 2012, 07:05:51 PM
This is what mine looks like:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121122-fqiq-5kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121122-fqiq-5kb)
So the answer is NO
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on November 22, 2012, 07:19:18 PM
This is what mine looks like:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121122-fqiq-5kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121122-fqiq-5kb)
So the answer is NO
Mine is identical to Bob's also.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 22, 2012, 07:51:42 PM

(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images4/NET_Framework_Error_Message_Windows_8.png)

How to Install Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Offline in Windows 8 without Internet Connection? (http://www.askvg.com/how-to-install-microsoft-net-framework-3-5-offline-in-windows-8-without-internet-connection/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chris Thomas on November 22, 2012, 08:37:16 PM
This is what mine looks like:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121122-fqiq-5kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20121122-fqiq-5kb)
So the answer is NO
Mine is identical to Bob's also.

Thanks for the replies. I just found out that its a Zemana Antilogger bug. When I turn it off, it goes away.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 02, 2012, 03:50:28 PM
(http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121202-3sq-65kb.jpg)

Create custom tiles on the windows 8 start screen. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899865)

(http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121202-83n-60kb.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 03, 2012, 02:28:47 PM
(http://www.jetscreenshot.com/demo/20121203-lu4-21kb.jpg) (http://youtu.be/tSWWDOjDH2c)
http://youtu.be/tSWWDOjDH2c (http://youtu.be/tSWWDOjDH2c)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 06, 2012, 03:36:50 PM

If you don't like the ribbon interface in Windows 8, then simply
get Windows XP Style Toolbar back in Windows 8 Explorer without Using Any Software? (http://www.askvg.com/how-to-get-windows-xp-style-toolbar-in-windows-8-explorer-without-using-any-software/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)


(it isn't gone, it was just hidden.)
(Thanks VG)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 12, 2012, 04:13:11 PM

(http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121212-k8e-31kb.jpg)
Speed Up Switching between Desktop and Start Screen By Disabling Start Screen Animation in Windows 8 (http://www.askvg.com/tip-speed-up-switching-between-desktop-and-start-screen-by-disabling-start-screen-animation-in-windows-8/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)


(http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121212-40k-15kb.jpg)


(http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121212-d34-37kb.jpg)
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20121212-a9n9-61kb.jpg)
That's all it takes to speed up the transition.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 13, 2012, 02:32:59 PM
Make windows 8 sing with these music apps (https://www.pcworld.com/article/2017415/ear-candy-the-best-windows-8-music-apps.html)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on December 15, 2012, 07:15:04 PM
Reset a Windows 8 Password without using any third party software
http://reboot.pro/topic/17872-reset-a-windows-8-password-without-using-any-third-party-software/
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 26, 2012, 03:50:46 PM
Classic Shell updated to 3.6.4 (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/)
(http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/images/screenshot.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 27, 2012, 05:07:06 PM

(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images4/Organize_Tile_Groups_Windows_8_Start_Screen.png)
Organize Windows 8 Start Screen Tiles in Groups and Name These Groups (http://www.askvg.com/tip-organize-windows-8-start-screen-tiles-in-groups-and-name-these-groups/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
A nice tutorial and video from AskVG
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 29, 2012, 05:15:31 PM

Windows 8 useful Utilities (http://forum.avast.com/Windows 8 useful Utilities)
Windows reliability history     Search for  > reliability and under Settings, select     (http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121229-w29-5kb.jpg)
DirectXdiagnostics                   Search for  > DXDiag      and under Apps, select         (http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121229-d5w-4kb.jpg)
Display calibration                   Search for  > calibrate   and under Settings select     (http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121229-23o-6kb.jpg)
Application steps capture        Search for  > steps       and under Settings select       (http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121229-qqq-7kb.jpg)
Task scheduling                       Search for  > Schedule    and under Settings select    (http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20121229-m3q-5kb.jpg)
Virtual machine creation
and management                  go to the Control Panel, click Programs, and select Turn Windows Features on or off. Choose Hyper-V
                                              and click the OK button. Reboot
                                             
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 01, 2013, 08:29:20 PM
I've been trying to set up a HotKey for my "Screensaver" but can't find where the Screensaver files are in Windows/System32??
I've searched computer for> *.scr but nothing comes up.
I had originally found the individual Screensaver files in my Win8 Evaluation version but I cannot remember how I found them. :-\
Any input appreciated. 8)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on January 01, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
I've been trying to set up a HotKey for my "Screensaver" but can't find where the Screensaver files are in Windows/System32??
I've searched computer for> *.scr but nothing comes up.
I had originally found the individual Screensaver files in my Win8 Evaluation version but I cannot remember how I found them. :-\
Any input appreciated. 8)
Search for the name first then scr, eg - bubbles.scr, mystify.scr, ribbons.scr

There all still in Windows/System32 but there hard to spot
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 01, 2013, 09:13:56 PM
I've been trying to set up a HotKey for my "Screensaver" but can't find where the Screensaver files are in Windows/System32??
I've searched computer for> *.scr but nothing comes up.
I had originally found the individual Screensaver files in my Win8 Evaluation version but I cannot remember how I found them. :-\
Any input appreciated. 8)
Search for the name first then scr, eg - bubbles.scr, mystify.scr, ribbons.scr

There all still in Windows/System32 but there hard to spot

Thanks craig.
I eventually tracked down the 'full path' to the screensaver via Regestry: HK/currentuser/controlpanel/screensaver.exe
I then entered that file path in left clicking desktop/New/shortcut.
I then entered the shortcut properties and assigned a "HotKey"  and voila instant sreensaver. ::) 8)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 01, 2013, 09:24:55 PM
You can use the search function:
(http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20130101-r23-8kb.jpg)


Then simply click on the App and open the screensaver.


(http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20130101-19h-11kb.jpg)


Instant launch. :)

Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 02, 2013, 05:50:25 PM
You can use the search function:

Thanks Bob. Well I thought for sure if I typed *.scr in 'Search' it would display existing sreensavers and I could then locate the 'full file path' of the screensaver I wanted to use, as I didn't know that( I wanted that so as to enable a HotKey). No such luck :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 03, 2013, 01:27:42 AM
You can use the search function:

Thanks Bob. Well I thought for sure if I typed *.scr in 'Search' it would display existing sreensavers and I could then locate the 'full file path' of the screensaver I wanted to use, as I didn't know that( I wanted that so as to enable a HotKey). No such luck :)
(http://www.jetScreenshot.com/demo/20130102-i15-31kb.jpg)


You could simply create a shortcut on your desktop and click on it to launch the ScreenSaver of your choice.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 03, 2013, 09:19:49 PM
For some reason I thought I read somewhere that one could delete 'individual, specific' restore points, but I don't see anywhere to do this.
All I see is an option to delete "all restore points"
Is it possible with Windows8 to delete a(one)restore point while leaving remaining restore points?? ???
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on January 03, 2013, 09:29:51 PM
For some reason I thought I read somewhere that one could delete 'individual, specific' restore points, but I don't see anywhere to do this.
All I see is an option to delete "all restore points"
Is it possible with Windows8 to delete a(one)restore point while leaving remaining restore points?? ???
Thanks :)
CCleaner will allow you to remove individual restore points.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 03, 2013, 10:24:27 PM
For some reason I thought I read somewhere that one could delete 'individual, specific' restore points, but I don't see anywhere to do this.
All I see is an option to delete "all restore points"
Is it possible with Windows8 to delete a(one)restore point while leaving remaining restore points?? ???
Thanks :)
CCleaner will allow you to remove individual restore points.

Thanks craig, maybe that's what I was reading......man ::) 8)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 04, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
You can also delete all but the last created restore point:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Delete-a-restore-point (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Delete-a-restore-point)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 04, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
You can also delete all but the last created restore point:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Delete-a-restore-point (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Delete-a-restore-point)

Appreciate it Bob. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 04, 2013, 05:31:49 PM
My pleasure.
Title: Evolution of Windows 8
Post by: Dch48 on January 04, 2013, 11:57:10 PM
I found a very interesting, if a bit lengthy, blog posting by Steven Sinofsky on the evolution of the Windows UI. It covers all versions starting with 1.0 and has some revealing and sometimes humorous reminders of how new things are often not accepted well at first. One of the best is this excerpt about the now ubiquitous peripheral known as the mouse.

Quote
•“Mice are nice ideas, but of dubious value for business users” (George Vinall, PC Week, April 24, 1984)
 •“There is no evidence that people want to use these things.” (John C. Dvorak, San Francisco Examiner, February 19, 1984)
 •“I was having lots of fun, but in the back of my corporate mind, I couldn't help but think about productivity.” (George Vinall, PC Week, April 24, 1984)
 •“Does the mouse make the computer more accessible, more friendly, to certain target audiences such as executives? The answer is no.” (Computerworld, October 31, 1983)
 •“There is no possibility that this device will feel more comfortable to the executive than the keyboard. Because of its ‘rollability,’ the mouse has the aura of a gimmick…” (Computerworld, October 31, 1983)
 •“The mouse and its friends are merely diversions in this process. What sounds revolutionary does not necessarily help anyone with anything, and therein lies the true test of commercial longevity.” (David A. Kay, Datamation, October 1983)


http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/18/creating-the-windows-8-user-experience.aspx
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 05, 2013, 04:44:35 PM
(http://www.mwave.com/mwave/spechr/images/BH02030.jpg)
Windows 8 To Go (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36184)

(Windows 8 on a USB stick)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 05, 2013, 11:35:10 PM
(http://i3.codeplex.com/Download?ProjectName=wun&DownloadId=583947)

Download Windows8 Update Notifier (http://wun.codeplex.com/)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 22, 2013, 12:59:15 AM

(http://res2.windows.microsoft.com/resbox/en-US/6.2/2012-Win8GA/eec1585d-b9c7-49d2-bfbf-29f8e2350249_7.png)
This is a reminder.
You have just 10 days left to get a Windows 8 Pro (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/buy) upgrade for $39.99 as a download from Microsoft.
After 1/31/2013 the price will increase to $199.00
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 26, 2013, 09:00:45 PM
Can the ESD Folder in Win8 be removed/moved to a USB Drive for future use if needed, or does it have to remain in C:Drive?
Input appreciated. :)

Edit: I have the Win8 Installation/Backup DVD
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 26, 2013, 09:30:46 PM
Can the ESD Folder in Win8 be removed/moved to a USB Drive for future use if needed, or does it have to remain in C:Drive?
Input appreciated. :)

Edit: I have the Win8 Installation/Backup DVD
Windows ESD folder is used by Push Button Reset feature to reset your computer back to its original install state.
If you remove it, that feature will no longer work. So, it's up to you. UInless you're really strapped for space on your HD,
I would leave it alone.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 27, 2013, 07:27:18 PM
Can the ESD Folder in Win8 be removed/moved to a USB Drive for future use if needed, or does it have to remain in C:Drive?
Input appreciated. :)

Edit: I have the Win8 Installation/Backup DVD
Windows ESD folder is used by Push Button Reset feature to reset your computer back to its original install state.
If you remove it, that feature will no longer work. So, it's up to you. UInless you're really strapped for space on your HD,
I would leave it alone.

Thanks Bob.
Yes, I figured that was the case. I guess my interest is if one is using Disk Image Back up software, is the feature really necessary/useful??
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 27, 2013, 07:33:42 PM
Can the ESD Folder in Win8 be removed/moved to a USB Drive for future use if needed, or does it have to remain in C:Drive?
Input appreciated. :)

Edit: I have the Win8 Installation/Backup DVD
Windows ESD folder is used by Push Button Reset feature to reset your computer back to its original install state.
If you remove it, that feature will no longer work. So, it's up to you. UInless you're really strapped for space on your HD,
I would leave it alone.

Thanks Bob.
Yes, I figured that was the case. I guess my interest is if one is using Disk Image Back up software, is the feature really necessary/useful??
That's strictly up to the individual user. I make regular image backups but still have it on my system. That's my choice.
You'll have to make yours. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 28, 2013, 07:47:04 PM
Seems I'm not getting MP3 sound files (downloaded music) copied over from my XP to get uploaded to the  Media Center music library.
I have gone through the process: Tasks/Music Library and manually enter my "download folder" in MY Music but no songs appear in the Library. Even with the Media Center searching for files in the background, none ever get uploaded into the Music Library.
Any ideas as to what I'm missing?? Probably something rediculously simple.::)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 28, 2013, 08:23:53 PM
Have you tried doing it manually by copying the files from you download folder and then
pasting them to your music folder ???
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on January 28, 2013, 08:28:34 PM
Have you tried doing it manually by copying the files from you download folder and then
pasting them to your music folder ???

Thanks Bob.
No I haven't tried that as that does seem very wierd for such an advanced feature as the "Media Center".
I would be interested in finding out what the issue is. I mean it was as easy as punch getting mp3 files listed in 'media player' in my XP. :-\ ???
Anyway, its not a super big deal other then IT SHOULD WORK! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 29, 2013, 09:48:06 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20130129-pgko-10kb.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BSmmSU-UZU&list=UUL-fHOdarou-CR2XUmK48Og&index=1)
The Missing Windows 8 Instructional Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BSmmSU-UZU&list=UUL-fHOdarou-CR2XUmK48Og&index=1)
Thanks to Scott Hanselman (https://www.youtube.com/user/shanselman?feature=watch) for this excellent tutorial.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 30, 2013, 10:44:16 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20130130-vidx-18kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20130130-vidx-18kb)
How to sync Google services with Windows 8 or Windows RT (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/use-google-windows-8-rt)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 31, 2013, 01:47:34 PM
(http://zapt3.staticworld.net/images/article/2012/12/windows8-box-100018291-gallery.jpg)
             Set up Windows 8 as a Home Server (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2026643/set-up-windows-8-as-a-home-server.html#tk.nl_pwr)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 31, 2013, 10:36:16 PM
                       (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20130131-jxoq-12kb.jpg) (http://www.tweakhound.com/tweaking-windows-8/)
http://www.tweakhound.com/tweaking-windows-8/ (http://www.tweakhound.com/tweaking-windows-8/)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 31, 2013, 11:23:49 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20130131-tkdx-28kb.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17vz9So7xbQ)
Creating a Windows Mobility Center desktop shortcut in Windows 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17vz9So7xbQ)

Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 01, 2013, 04:31:56 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20130201-t4jf-30kb.jpg) (http://youtu.be/rxwBzfvLLjw)

Access the Modern Desktop on Windows 8 on the Regular Desktop (http://youtu.be/rxwBzfvLLjw) by creating a Shortcut.
Here is the code you'll need for creating the shortcut:
%windir%\explorer.exe shell:::{4234d49b-0245-4df3-b780-3893943456e1}
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 03, 2013, 03:10:00 PM
One of the nice features of Windows 8 is the shortcut combo of the Windows key and the X key (Win+X)
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20130203-5kzm-16kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20130203-5kzm-16kb)


Now, we can take this one step further and actually add and change the items that display on the Win+X Keys.


Win+X Menu Editor (http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.30) is able to do that without system file modification.
(http://winaero.com/e107_images/newspost_images/winxeditor.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on February 13, 2013, 06:58:01 PM
Question for Windows 8 users about "Entering Safe Mode from the 'KEYBOARD'
There has been plenty written about the difference entering SAFEMODE in Windows 8 and I'm sure I've read most of it by simply Googling "Easiest Way to enter Safemode in Windows8.
http://www.howtogeek.com/107511/how-to-boot-into-safe-mode-on-windows-8-the-easy-way/ (http://www.howtogeek.com/107511/how-to-boot-into-safe-mode-on-windows-8-the-easy-way/)

The problem with all I've read is it seems the options given presume one can boot up into the OS options BUT: What if the system won't boot and all your left with is attempting to use the Keyboard option well known in previous OS's.... hitting F8 before entering OS.
Well that doesn't work in Windows 8 and the only information I've been able to find is "Holding the SHIFT Key while tapping F8" which is said "Sometimes takes you to "Recovery Mode" where you can choose "Advanced Options" etc.
The operative word here is "SOMETIMES" and that just doesn't cut it. I myself have not been able to make this option work, not even one time. ::)

Is there not (too date) a fool proof way (a FIX found) of entering safemode via Keyboard yet (without using the Win8 DVD)?
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on February 13, 2013, 07:07:47 PM
From what I've already experienced on some software I was testing a while ago ( Outpost Firewall beta I think ??? :-\ ) my win8 crashed and kept doing a reboot loop, after the second reboot attempt failing I was automatically presented with a blue restore screen which did everything on it's own and fixed itself.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on February 13, 2013, 07:14:44 PM
From what I've already experienced on some software I was testing a while ago ( Outpost Firewall beta ) my win8 crashed and kept doing a reboot loop, after the second reboot attempt failing I was automatically presented with a blue restore screen which did everything on it's own and fixed itself.

Thanks Craig.
I guess I just haven't been down that road yet. Just give me time, I'm sure I'll get there. ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on February 13, 2013, 07:20:20 PM
Thanks Craig.
I guess I just haven't been down that road yet. Just give me time, I'm sure I'll get there. ;D ;D ;D ;)
Make sure you keep the ESD folder in it's place on C Drive.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on February 13, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Thanks Craig.
I guess I just haven't been down that road yet. Just give me time, I'm sure I'll get there. ;D ;D ;D ;)
Make sure you keep the ESD folder in it's place on C Drive.

Yes.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 14, 2013, 05:55:06 PM
The following should answer your question regarding Windows 8 and Safe Mode:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg788213#msg788213 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg788213#msg788213)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on February 14, 2013, 06:03:06 PM
Thanks Bob, always appreciated. :D
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 15, 2013, 01:33:46 PM
Thanks Bob, always appreciated. :D
My pleasure. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 19, 2013, 03:10:54 PM
Windows 8 and live tiles "Modern Desktop" sometimes needs attention to work properly.
Here are 2 utilities to help when problems arise:
Windows Store Apps Troubleshooter
(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images4/Microsoft_Store_Apps_Troubleshooter_for_Windows_8.png)

Microsoft Accounts Troubleshooter
(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images4/Microsoft_Accounts_Troubleshooter_for_Windows_8.png)
You can get both applications through Tweaking with Vishal (http://www.askvg.com/fix-windows-store-metro-apps-and-microsoft-account-related-problems-in-windows-8/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29) as I did. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 19, 2013, 05:46:16 PM
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20130219-fk5l-4kb.jpg)
One app to manage multiple Cloud Accounts (Drives)
Available from the Windows Store (FREE) (http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/rainbowdrive/5f310c18-5169-402b-ba98-28970bd388e5)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 21, 2013, 09:56:38 PM
(http://virtualrouterplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/VirtualRouterPlusScreenshot-300x183.png)
In Windows 7, there was the ability to use your computer to set up a WiFi hotspot for your other devices.
To get that function back in Windows 8, you'll need a free 3rd Party application called Virtual Router Plus (http://virtualrouterplus.com/).
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 13, 2013, 01:07:47 PM
                                                   Three Modern-Style File Managers (http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/easeus-filemanager-decent-explorer-alternative-for-windows-8-rt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+addictivetips%2Fwindows+%28AddictiveTips+%C2%BB+Windows%29)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1363176246086-663.png)    (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1363176337468-23794.png)    (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1363176412369-59330.png)
 
1. Metro Commander (http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/metro-commander-windows-8-modern-ui-file-manager-with-skydrive-sync/) Is A Windows 8 Modern UI File Manager With SkyDrive Sync.
2. MFiles&Folders (http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/files-folders-windows-8-file-manager-with-a-built-in-media-player/) Is A Windows 8 File Manager With SkyDrive Support & Native Media Player
3. EaseUS FileManager (http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/easeus-filemanager-decent-explorer-alternative-for-windows-8-rt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+addictivetips%2Fwindows+%28AddictiveTips+%C2%BB+Windows%29) Is A Decent Explorer Alternative For Windows 8 & RT
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on March 22, 2013, 11:14:54 PM
Launch, Backup & Uninstall Modern UI Apps From Windows 8 Desktop (http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/launch-backup-uninstall-modern-ui-apps-from-windows-8-desktop/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+addictivetips%2Fwindows+%28AddictiveTips+%C2%BB+Windows%29)

(http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Windows-App-Boss.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 05, 2013, 03:22:59 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1365167949026-46879.png)

ModernNote (http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/modernnote-multi-format-modern-ui-text-editor-for-windows-8-rt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+addictivetips%2Fwindows+%28AddictiveTips+%C2%BB+Windows%29) a feature rich NotePad for the Modern Desktop

Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chim on April 05, 2013, 03:57:17 PM
My brother will be dropping by sometime today.  The last time he was here, I told him to bring his new Windows 8 Laptop so that I could install VLC Media Player in it.  I later noticed that there is a 32-Bit version and a 64-Bit version of VLC Media Player.  What is the quickest way to check whether my brother's Windows 8 Laptop has 32-Bit or 64-bit Windows 8 in it?
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on April 05, 2013, 04:07:23 PM
My brother will be dropping by sometime today.  The last time he was here, I told him to bring his new Windows 8 Laptop so that I could install VLC Media Player in it.  I later noticed that there is a 32-Bit version and a 64-Bit version of VLC Media Player.  What is the quickest way to check whether my brother's Windows 8 Laptop has 32-Bit or 64-bit Windows 8 in it?
Control Panel/System will show you if it's 32 or 64 bit, I'd stick with the 32 bit version of VLC player though as it's more stable.

The 64 bit version is still regarded as beta I believe.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 05, 2013, 04:08:47 PM
My brother will be dropping by sometime today.  The last time he was here, I told him to bring his new Windows 8 Laptop so that I could install VLC Media Player in it.  I later noticed that there is a 32-Bit version and a 64-Bit version of VLC Media Player.  What is the quickest way to check whether my brother's Windows 8 Laptop has 32-Bit or 64-bit Windows 8 in it?
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1365170570294-84717.png)
A simple search in windows 8 for System under settings will get you there.


(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1365170891341-94025.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Chim on April 05, 2013, 05:27:15 PM
Thanks, Bob!
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 05, 2013, 08:32:23 PM
My pleasure. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on April 09, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Windows 8 is certainly extremely different then my XP with regard to "security updates".
Have not had a security update on Windows 8 since March 13th.
Maybe MS is getting ready for major update. ::)

EDIT: Wouldn't you know it, spoke too soon as I see I just received 8.... Hmm :P
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 10, 2013, 12:53:35 AM
Windows 8 is certainly extremely different then my XP with regard to "security updates".
Have not had a security update on Windows 8 since March 13th.
Maybe MS is getting ready for major update. ::)

EDIT: Wouldn't you know it, spoke too soon as I see I just received 8.... Hmm :P
More for some than others:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1365547940645-719.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 10, 2013, 01:55:16 PM
fotor (http://www.fotor.com/windows8/index.html) 

"Perfectly combine the windows 8 user experience with cutting-edge tools
including Basic Editing Tools, Brilliant Visual Effects, Frames, 1-Tap Enhance,
Collage, Text, Tilt Shift and Raw Converter, all bundled together in one powerful package!"
Here is just one example of a simple one button fix on a picture I recently took at the MLPAA (http://mlpaa.org/) property.


Before:                                                                                                       

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1365594630573-72457.png)   


After Using the LandScape Filter

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1365594768243-37063.png)
I'd call this pure and simple magic. :) If you've got Windows 8 and you take photos,
this sure makes a difference.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 10, 2013, 02:23:00 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1365596535536-54721.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 28, 2013, 01:56:59 AM

(http://www.davescomputertips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/windows-8.1-24-150x112.jpg)

Windows 8.1 Preview – Don’t be Blue (http://www.davescomputertips.com/2013/04/windows-8-1-preview-dont-be-blue/)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 28, 2013, 03:15:06 PM
Using the Desktop Shortcut in Windows 8
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1367154828317-3187.png) (http://youtu.be/CzTvNvQeZ34)
http://youtu.be/CzTvNvQeZ34 (http://youtu.be/CzTvNvQeZ34)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on April 28, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
Typo in your Youtube title Bob  destop, not desktop.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 28, 2013, 03:20:57 PM
Typo in your Youtube title Bob  destop, not desktop.
Thanks, fixed. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 30, 2013, 02:43:27 PM
(http://images.techhive.com/images/article/2013/04/8isbetter_primary-100033931-gallery.jpg)
    12 ways Windows 8 dominates the OS competition (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2035821/12-ways-windows-8-dominates-the-os-competition.html)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on April 30, 2013, 03:06:19 PM
Dominates, interesting choice of word (I know they aren't yours) when win8 has less than just over 3% of the OS market share. It wasn't good reading for Microsoft.

I was just reading an article in Micro Mart, about 'Can Microsoft Really Kill Off Windows XP ?' and it had the OS market stats for March 2013 and win 8 still hasn't even passed Vista and just half for that of Mac OSx.
I still don't see a killer function in win 8 that makes it a must have (dominate) upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 30, 2013, 03:26:31 PM
Dominates refers to it's "features" not it's market share.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on April 30, 2013, 04:31:59 PM
I still don't see the killer function/feature that 'dominates' giving any reason to upgrade. I don't see anything that I don't already have that I need/absolutely must have.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 30, 2013, 05:04:47 PM
I still don't see the killer function/feature that 'dominates' giving any reason to upgrade. I don't see anything that I don't already have that I need/absolutely must have.
You also didn't have to upgrade to DSL :)  ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on April 30, 2013, 06:04:20 PM
I still don't see the killer function/feature that 'dominates' giving any reason to upgrade. I don't see anything that I don't already have that I need/absolutely must have.
You also didn't have to upgrade to DSL :)  ;D

Come on Bob if that is your justification by comparing apples and oranges it lacks comparison. When there is a killer reason to have DSL over dial-up.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on April 30, 2013, 07:49:59 PM
I still don't see the killer function/feature that 'dominates' giving any reason to upgrade. I don't see anything that I don't already have that I need/absolutely must have.
You also didn't have to upgrade to DSL :) ;D

Come on Bob if that is your justification by comparing apples and oranges it lacks comparison. When there is a killer reason to have DSL over dial-up.
They both have something in common: Speed
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on April 30, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
No Bob they are completely unrelated or we would all be driving round in Formula 1 cars by the same apples and oranges comparison.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on May 01, 2013, 05:16:23 AM
No Bob they are completely unrelated or we would all be driving round in Formula 1 cars by the same apples and oranges comparison.
From all reports, the speed increase of Windows 8 is minimal at best unlike the comparison cited. It is apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Asyn on May 01, 2013, 07:25:08 AM
I still don't see the killer function/feature that 'dominates' giving any reason to upgrade. I don't see anything that I don't already have that I need/absolutely must have.

+1
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on May 01, 2013, 08:42:01 AM
No killer features in win8 worth the upgrade but as I mentioned somewhere else previously there are some nice little tweaks in system optimisation and resource usage.

Vista and Win7 also had no killer features that was worth the upgrade from XP but hey " we did it anyway " ;)


Not a good comparison Bob ???

Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 01, 2013, 12:55:35 PM
The simple answer is that it's your computer and your decision.


Unless you use it on a daily basis, please don't attempt to knock something you aren't familiar with.
I not only use Windows 8 daily but, have also used all other Windows operating systems since Windows 3.0
I think that puts me in a pretty good position to be able to compare the different systems.
Windows 8 is their best operating system to date despite some of the criticisms. The lack of a start button being one of them.
Despite the shortcomings, Microsoft has made many improvements in this new version.
Updating is always a decision that needs to be made by the individual user.
It would certainly have been a smart move to purchase Windows 8 Pro while it was still available for under $40.00 and,
is not as easy a decision now when the price is about $200.00.
One also has to consider that progress and change isn't accepted easily by all.
Some fight progress and change with as much conviction as some of us welcome it.





Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on May 01, 2013, 01:35:07 PM
Bob you tell us not to knock something which we haven't tried, yet in the same breath you knock everyone else who isn't using it as fighting progress and change:

Quote from: bob3160
One also has to consider that progress and change isn't accepted easily by all.
Some fight progress and change with as much conviction as some of us welcome it.

Change just for changes sake isn't progress, there has to be a reason to change; just like your comparison of DSL or Dial-up, there was a bloody good reason to change once it became available.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 01, 2013, 02:03:40 PM
Bob you tell us not to knock something which we haven't tried, yet in the same breath you knock everyone else who isn't using it as fighting progress and change:

Quote from: bob3160
One also has to consider that progress and change isn't accepted easily by all.
Some fight progress and change with as much conviction as some of us welcome it.

Change just for changes sake isn't progress, there has to be a reason to change; just like your comparison of DSL or Dial-up, there was a bloody good reason to change once it became available.
Motivation for change also differs in people. Which is why the glass is always half full for some (like myself) and half empty for others.
I didn't knock anyone, simply stated a fact. There is a difference. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on May 01, 2013, 02:30:16 PM
We too are stating facts, where is the killer function/feature that makes it worth our while and money to upgrade, currently I find very little reason.

This system is almost 5 years old but it does everything that I need of it and meets my requirements. As and when I decide to replace it, I will decide on what OS I will purchase then based on my requirements/needs. Having just added more RAM, changed to a silent/passive graphics card and just replaced my monitor, I don't think that will be any time soon.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 01, 2013, 03:11:15 PM
We too are stating facts, where is the killer function/feature that makes it worth our while and money to upgrade, currently I find very little reason.

This system is almost 5 years old but it does everything that I need of it and meets my requirements. As and when I decide to replace it, I will decide on what OS I will purchase then based on my requirements/needs. Having just added more RAM, changed to a silent/passive graphics card and just replaced my monitor, I don't think that will be any time soon.
It is your prerogative (users Choice) as I've already stated. I thought it was worth the $40.00 investment. (My Choice)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on May 01, 2013, 05:50:57 PM
To me, the only thing I find attractive in Win 8 is the improved recovery options. Since I have never had to use System Restore, even that isn't enough of a reason to switch.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 01, 2013, 05:58:39 PM
To me, the only thing I find attractive in Win 8 is the improved recovery options. Since I have never had to use System Restore, even that isn't enough of a reason to switch.
Simple, don't. Stay with what you have.
Let's get this topic back on track.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 11, 2013, 01:02:08 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1368215156317-64719.png) (http://youtu.be/hZy5in3WNe4)                           http://youtu.be/hZy5in3WNe4 (http://youtu.be/hZy5in3WNe4)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 13, 2013, 03:28:51 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1368451566452-37343.png)
                Windows 8 Mega Guide (http://www.computershopper.com/feature/windows-8-mega-guide!-50-insider-tips/(page)/2#review-section)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: !Donovan on May 15, 2013, 01:45:01 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1368451566452-37343.png)
                Windows 8 Mega Guide (http://www.computershopper.com/feature/windows-8-mega-guide!-50-insider-tips/(page)/2#review-section)
This is probably the most useful article I've seen thus far. Thank you!

~!Donovan
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on May 15, 2013, 01:52:43 AM
Actually, Bob is a source of 'wonder' when it comes to Windows 8 OS  ;D
Always very helpful, well most of the time. ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 15, 2013, 04:21:48 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1368451566452-37343.png)
                Windows 8 Mega Guide (http://www.computershopper.com/feature/windows-8-mega-guide!-50-insider-tips/(page)/2#review-section)
This is probably the most useful article I've seen thus far. Thank you!

~!Donovan
Just passing along what I thought was worthwhile. :)

Actually, Bob is a source of 'wonder' when it comes to Windows 8 OS  ;D
Always very helpful, well most of the time. ;)


Thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 30, 2013, 01:44:27 PM

Power options and an easy way to adjust them in Windows 8
A simple search for Power makes all of these Settings available to you:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1369913855990-57669.png)
It isn't the stupidity of the computer but the lack of knowledge of the operator.  ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 30, 2013, 03:08:00 PM
Windows 8 End User Training Brochure (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=39055)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1369919186297-32060.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on May 31, 2013, 02:52:44 PM
StartW8 Another free start menu replacement option that I haven't come across before, looks good.

http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on May 31, 2013, 04:54:12 PM
StartW8 Another free start menu replacement option that I haven't come across before, looks good.

http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8
Just thinking what it adds to ClassicShell... Can't find the advantages...
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 31, 2013, 05:06:13 PM
StartW8 Another free start menu replacement option that I haven't come across before, looks good.

http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8 (http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8)
Just thinking what it adds to ClassicShell... Can't find the advantages...
It adds nothing. They are still learning from all the things included in Classic Shell. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on May 31, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
StartW8 Another free start menu replacement option that I haven't come across before, looks good.

http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8
Just thinking what it adds to ClassicShell... Can't find the advantages...
StartW8 is a identical replacement for the start menu ( similar to Start8 ) without all the exta un-needed stuff that comes with Classic Shell, you'll notice it's only available for windows 8 as well and doesn't include the OS's, the installer is also only 1.7mb and so far from my testing of it this evening there is no boot to desktop delay that is visible in Classic Shell and Start8.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on May 31, 2013, 05:48:51 PM
there is no boot to desktop delay that is visible in Classic Shell and Start8.

Interesting I'm going to give this baby StartW8 a spin ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 31, 2013, 05:50:31 PM
StartW8 Another free start menu replacement option that I haven't come across before, looks good.

http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8 (http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8)
Just thinking what it adds to ClassicShell... Can't find the advantages...
StartW8 is a identical replacement for the start menu ( similar to Start8 ) without all the exta un-needed stuff that comes with Classic Shell, you'll notice it's only available for windows 8 as well and doesn't include the OS's, the installer is also only 1.7mb and so far from my testing of it this evening there is no boot to desktop delay that is visible in Classic Shell and Start8.
No delay either if you're using the latest version of Classic Shell which I've now used for almost 1 year. :) Start8 isn't free and therefore not even considered in the mix.  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on May 31, 2013, 06:02:42 PM
StartW8 Another free start menu replacement option that I haven't come across before, looks good.

http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8 (http://www.areaguard.com/StartW8)
Just thinking what it adds to ClassicShell... Can't find the advantages...
StartW8 is a identical replacement for the start menu ( similar to Start8 ) without all the exta un-needed stuff that comes with Classic Shell, you'll notice it's only available for windows 8 as well and doesn't include the OS's, the installer is also only 1.7mb and so far from my testing of it this evening there is no boot to desktop delay that is visible in Classic Shell and Start8.
No delay either if you're using the latest version of Classic Shell which I've now used for almost 1 year. :) Start8 isn't free and therefore not even considered in the mix.  :)
We've had this discussion previously Bob, you cant tell me there isn't a slight delay to desktop with Classic Shell as I've tested all these products and know first hand, just because you don't use it doesn't make it unworthy.

Start8 is also only $5 so that is practically free imo for a more professional product.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 31, 2013, 06:21:51 PM
Quote
We've had this discussion previously Bob, you cant tell me there isn't a slight delay to desktop with Classic Shell
I think that's what I just posted ??? $5.00 isn't free, it's cheap in price. I think if you go through this topic, you'll find a review of Start8
and many others like it.
All I've mentioned is the fact that Classic shell has been around a long time (since beta of Windows 8) has never crashed my system
does what it advertises, is totally free and fixes even small glitches quickly.
I didn't knock StartW8 just stated some facts.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on May 31, 2013, 06:43:10 PM
Quote
We've had this discussion previously Bob, you cant tell me there isn't a slight delay to desktop with Classic Shell
I think that's what I just posted ??? $5.00 isn't free, it's cheap in price. I think if you go through this topic, you'll find a review of Start8
and many others like it.
All I've mentioned is the fact that Classic shell has been around a long time (since beta of Windows 8) has never crashed my system
does what it advertises, is totally free and fixes even small glitches quickly.
I didn't knock StartW8 just stated some facts.
I said practically free :) I never said Classic shell causes problems or anything else along those lines, what I did say was that StartW8 as well as Start8 is more true to the traditional windows 7 start menu without all the un-necessary extra features included with Classic Shell and that the slight delay that is visible with both Classic Shell and Start8 is gone in StartW8.

Bob I think you'll also find Start8 has been around as long as Classic Shell if not before and the company itself " Stardock" has been around since the early XP years with multitudes of experience in offering users the ability to add and change features of windows OS's, they've always specialised in this field and there experience shines through and is the reason I stated a more professional product, it is what it states to be " no more no less ".
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 31, 2013, 07:26:33 PM
Start8 was still in beta as of Oct. 2012.
My first post about Classic shell appeared in 4/1/2012:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85094.msg770303#msg770303 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85094.msg770303#msg770303)
Simple answer to this discussion, try them all and keep the one you like.
(Make sure you have a reliable image to fall back on in case....)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on May 31, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
Start8 was still in beta as of Oct. 2012.
My first post about Classic shell appeared in 4/1/2012:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85094.msg770303#msg770303 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85094.msg770303#msg770303)
Simple answer to this discussion, try them all and keep the one you like.
(Make sure you have a reliable image to fall back on in case....)
Actually it was October when Start8 went commercial, it was in beta for months prior to that.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 31, 2013, 07:46:05 PM
Start8 was still in beta as of Oct. 2012.
My first post about Classic shell appeared in 4/1/2012:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85094.msg770303#msg770303 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85094.msg770303#msg770303)
Simple answer to this discussion, try them all and keep the one you like.
(Make sure you have a reliable image to fall back on in case....)
Actually it was October when Start8 went commercial, it was in beta for months prior to that.
I've done a little more digging and came across the following:
http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2012/09/07/windows-8-start-button-start8/#comment-104048 (http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2012/09/07/windows-8-start-button-start8/#comment-104048)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on June 01, 2013, 05:54:29 AM
The thing I don't like about Classic Shell is the clamshell shaped Start button. I think the Win 8 style button in StartW8 fits better .
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 01, 2013, 07:44:15 AM
The thing I don't like about Classic Shell is the clamshell shaped Start button. I think the Win 8 style button in StartW8 fits better .

Dch48 with ClassicShell you can change any start button style as you like it doesn't have to be a clam shell shape (http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/3D%20Smileys/3D%20Everyday%20Smileys/wink.gif)
Nearly all my clients who had W8 have their ClassicShell being installed are using the W8 Metro style start button instead of clam shell shape (http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/3D%20Smileys/3D%20Everyday%20Smileys/wink.gif)

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/18514/m_20130601-lchv-2kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/18514/20130601-lchv-2kb)<----- Classic Start Button Style
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/18514/m_20130601-4lma-2kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/18514/20130601-4lma-2kb) <----- Clam Shell Start Button Style (Aero Button)
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/18514/m_20130601-mpkj-2kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/18514/20130601-mpkj-2kb) <---- W8 Metro Start Button Style

The Custom Button means you can choose whatever button style you like just path you're favourite picture (to button image in 'bmp' format) easy-peasy with swiss chesse.

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/18514/m_20130601-faog-76kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/18514/20130601-faog-76kb)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 01, 2013, 12:43:11 PM
The thing I don't like about Classic Shell is the clamshell shaped Start button. I think the Win 8 style button in StartW8 fits better .
Are you even using Windows 8 ???
That's because you obviously don't use it and never took the time to ever explore all the different settings.
It's not fair to criticise any product unless you truly know all of it's features.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 02, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1370177282397-58555.png)
Get A Clean Yet Complete YouTube Experience On Windows 8 With Hyper (http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/get-clean-complete-youtube-experience-on-windows-8-hyper/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+addictivetips%2Fwindows+%28AddictiveTips+%C2%BB+Windows%29)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on June 06, 2013, 07:44:17 AM
I wanted to try Win8 without having to buy it and I found that I could. You can download a 90 day evaluation version of the Enterprise edition for free. I downloaded the 32 bit version, burned it to a DVD and installed it in a dual boot setup with XP on this 2005 AMD single core laptop. I really had a hard time getting a video driver that would work. It kept going to the generic Win8 AMD driver that does not allow you to change the resolution. Finally, after several downloads that did not work I got one that does. All of the sites I looked at said to run the driver installer in compatibility mode for Win7. Well, that does not work. I got the Vista driver for the laptop from the HP site and ran it in compatibility mode for Vista Service Pack 2 and voila!  It installed.  The Catalyst Control Panel doesn't work right and shows no settings but at least I have a driver where I can use my screen's native resolution of 1280X800 instead of the 1024X768 it was stuck on at first. The driver dates from November of 2006 so it's pretty old and is the only one that will install. The 10-2 legacy driver will not work like it does with XP.

Now to my thoughts on Win8. I tried using it in the default UI but I just couldn't find anything. I couldn't even find out how to browse the hard drive or even worse, to shut down Windows. I tried StartW8 but it just seemed too primitive so I installed Classic Shell and I like it.

To be honest, I don't find that this machine is any faster with Win8 than it is with XP but it doesn't seem any slower either unless I try to use the Metro version of IE10. That bogs down like mad and is very ugly as well. The desktop version is fine.

It may boot a little faster but not by much. It also takes quite a while for the dual boot loader to become useable. I know that would not be a problem with Win8 installed as the only OS.

I'm looking for any advantages over Win7 but I really haven't found any yet. I have 90 days to try it out though so maybe I will. It seems to operate just like Win7 if you use Classic Shell. Except for the ugly ribbon interface on the explorer.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-8.aspx
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 06, 2013, 09:12:05 AM
Quote
I tried using it in the default UI but I just couldn't find anything. I couldn't even find out how to browse the hard drive or even worse, to shut down Windows.
It's called a learning curve. If you had looked back at the information in this Thread, you would have found all kinds of reference material.
Sometime, one needs to read the manual.  ;)
First lesson is to use the search function when ever you can't find something.
A simple search for "shut" down, brought up 41 results under settings the first on covers Turn off your PC:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1370502908443-67303.png)


To use the search function on the Modern Desktop, simply start typing.  It's that simple.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 06, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
Quote
I tried using it in the default UI but I just couldn't find anything. I couldn't even find out how to browse the hard drive or even worse, to shut down Windows.
It's called a learning curve. If you had looked back at the information in this Thread, you would have found all kinds of reference material.
Sometime, one needs to read the manual.  ;)
First lesson is to use the search function when ever you can't find something.
A simple search for "shut" down, brought up 41 results under settings the first on covers Turn off your PC:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1370502908443-67303.png)

Same as Bob said it took me a little while for me to scratch my (http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/3D%20Smileys/3D%20Funny%20Smileys/moonie.gif) as a learning curve, and I'm so glad to have Bob and Craigb to help me out just in case I forget ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 06, 2013, 09:37:56 AM
It would be better if you scratched your head......
More sanitary too.  ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 06, 2013, 10:00:31 AM
It would be better if you scratched your head......
More sanitary too.  ;)

Bob the more I'll scratch my head my bloody (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/simpsons/homer-head-xray-smiley-emoticon.gif) will get smaller, I would rather sit on (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/toilet/reading-newspaper-on-toilet-smiley-emoticon.gif) and read (http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/3D%20Smileys/3D%20Everyday%20Smileys/wink.gif) and drink my (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/drink/beer.gif)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 06, 2013, 10:36:26 AM
It's called sit, read, think, drink and, stink. :-)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 06, 2013, 02:29:22 PM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040855/warning-users-will-have-to-reinstall-all-apps-if-they-opt-for-windows-8-1-beta.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040855/warning-users-will-have-to-reinstall-all-apps-if-they-opt-for-windows-8-1-beta.html)
Sent from 34000 feet :)
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on June 06, 2013, 03:11:53 PM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040855/warning-users-will-have-to-reinstall-all-apps-if-they-opt-for-windows-8-1-beta.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040855/warning-users-will-have-to-reinstall-all-apps-if-they-opt-for-windows-8-1-beta.html)
Sent from 34000 feet :)

Considering the height it was sent from, you could say you (or MS) have just dropped a bombshell. A rather inelegant 0.1 OS update.
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on June 06, 2013, 03:25:52 PM
That's only if you try the beta and then go to the release later on. They said if you wait for the release version and skip the beta, all your apps will be okay
Title: Re: Windows8 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 06, 2013, 04:12:17 PM
The link I supplied only talks about the beta. This same thing held true during beta testing of Windows 8.
I'm currently in Atlanta waiting to start my next climb to the clod.  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 26, 2013, 08:22:15 PM
Download Windows 8.1 Preview (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/download-preview)
(http://asset0.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim2/2013/06/25/StartScreenPopUp.png)
Caution: this version is not the final version and you can't convert from this version to the final release.
If you want to see what 8.1 can do, set it up on a virtual machine or, on a separate partition.

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 26, 2013, 11:59:21 PM
New Windows 8.1 Start button, 'boot to desktop' already in the wild
http://betanews.com/2013/06/26/new-windows-8-1-start-button-boot-to-desktop-already-in-the-wild/
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 27, 2013, 01:15:36 AM
Why would you use and old build version when the official release is already available ???
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 27, 2013, 01:35:48 AM
Why would you use and old build version when the official release is already available ???

I was just sharing further information I what they include into W8.1 start menu button so they have enough idea IF most users will be ready to installed W8.1 when the final release comes out that all Bob ;)

Edit: I've also forgot about you're post as well on W8.1 sorry
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 27, 2013, 04:23:05 PM
AskVG.com Newsletter (http://www.askvg.com/)
[Tip] Convert Start Screen into a Full Screen Start Menu (kind of) in Windows 8.1 (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_1)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 27, 2013, 06:48:19 PM
More on Windows 8.1 (http://webtrickz.com/windows-8-1-preview-now-available-download/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Webtrickz+%28WebTrickz%29)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on June 28, 2013, 02:35:09 AM
AskVG.com Newsletter (http://www.askvg.com/)
[Tip] Convert Start Screen into a Full Screen Start Menu (kind of) in Windows 8.1 (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_1)
  • Did You Know] Windows 8.1 Allows You to Show / Hide “Libraries” in Windows Explorer Navigation Pane (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_2)
  • How to Shutdown, Restart or Hibernate Windows 8.1 PC Using “Win+X” Menu? (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_3)
  • How to Set Desktop Wallpaper as Start Screen Background in Windows 8.1? (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_4)
  • How to Bypass Start Screen and Direct Boot into Desktop in Windows 8.1? (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_5)
  • How to Disable Hot Corners (Charms Bar and App Switch List) in Windows 8.1? (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_6)
  • [Fix] “The Update is Not Applicable to Your Computer” Error Message While Installing Windows 8.1 Preview from Store (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_7)
  • How to Download and Install Windows 8.1 Free Preview? Upgrade or Dual Boot with Windows 8 (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_8)
  • Download Windows 8.1 Free Preview (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_9)
  • Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 System Requirements (https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#13f85bb75383e86f_10)
All of those links simply open up my gmail page.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on June 28, 2013, 02:42:24 AM
Yah, that's wierd. ??? ::)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 28, 2013, 05:55:50 AM
Yah, that's wierd. ??? ::)
It sure is. :)
Go to VG website and get the info directly from him:
http://www.askvg.com/ (http://www.askvg.com/)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on June 28, 2013, 11:29:40 AM
I tried the 8.1 preview and it seems bugged. The right click menu on the new Start Button was nice but just suddenly disappeared and wouldn't come back. I was also unable to pin programs to the Start Screen. That works fine in the Enterprise evaluation but not in the preview. The way you can see all installed apps more easily is pretty nice but the bugs left me with a version that was harder to use than the regular Win8. I didn't try Classic Shell with it because I thought it might conflict with the new Start button too much. The end result is that I completely removed the Win 8 dual boot partition I had and gave the space back to Win 7. The XP machine still has the Enterprise evaluation in dual boot so I'll play with that one when I feel the urge. I'm not reloading the 8.1 preview though. If the bugs get fixed which I'm sure they will, 8.1 will be better than 8.0 but still too different from 7 and other versions to attract that many people I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 28, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
I tried the 8.1 preview and it seems bugged. The right click menu on the new Start Button was nice but just suddenly disappeared and wouldn't come back. I was also unable to pin programs to the Start Screen. That works fine in the Enterprise evaluation but not in the preview. The way you can see all installed apps more easily is pretty nice but the bugs left me with a version that was harder to use than the regular Win8. I didn't try Classic Shell with it because I thought it might conflict with the new Start button too much. The end result is that I completely removed the Win 8 dual boot partition I had and gave the space back to Win 7. The XP machine still has the Enterprise evaluation in dual boot so I'll play with that one when I feel the urge. I'm not reloading the 8.1 preview though. If the bugs get fixed which I'm sure they will, 8.1 will be better than 8.0 but still too different from 7 and other versions to attract that many people I'm afraid.
I actually didn't expect anything different in your "review" based on your general dislike for Windows 8.
Since I'm currently on the road, I can't personally test 8.1. I need this computer to do my presentations and,
will have to wait till I get back home in about 2 weeks.  :)
Title: licence d'abonnement valide-en cours- mais "0 jours d'abonnement!"
Post by: charlotteg on June 28, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
Bonjour à tous et toutes
  Assez novice en ordi/etc.., je ne sais comment faire pour résoudre un pb..!!
J'ai acheté en ligne une licence Avast en nov 2011-2ans-, encore reconnue valide par Avast jusque nov 2013.
Or depuis 2 jours , mon ordi "n'est pas protégé, car 0 jours d'abonnement"!!!
Le "fichier avast" est présent dans l'ordi, mais vide (aucun élément trouvé!)..
 Je n'ai plus le N°licence (?)..

   Que se passe-t-il, comment Avast est désactivé???? Comment le réactiver ????

Désolée de vous déranger pour ça, mais j'ai essayé de joindre avast par tous les moyens (réponse à confirmation de commande,à inscription forum..)et aucune réponse!

Merci pour toute aide de votre part

Title: Re: licence d'abonnement valide-en cours- mais "0 jours d'abonnement!"
Post by: CraigB on June 28, 2013, 02:37:10 PM
Bonjour à tous et toutes
  Assez novice en ordi/etc.., je ne sais comment faire pour résoudre un pb..!!
J'ai acheté en ligne une licence Avast en nov 2011-2ans-, encore reconnue valide par Avast jusque nov 2013.
Or depuis 2 jours , mon ordi "n'est pas protégé, car 0 jours d'abonnement"!!!
Le "fichier avast" est présent dans l'ordi, mais vide (aucun élément trouvé!)..
 Je n'ai plus le N°licence (?)..

   Que se passe-t-il, comment Avast est désactivé???? Comment le réactiver ????

Désolée de vous déranger pour ça, mais j'ai essayé de joindre avast par tous les moyens (réponse à confirmation de commande,à inscription forum..)et aucune réponse!

Merci pour toute aide de votre part
This is the English forum thankyou, French is here http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=23.0
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on June 28, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
@ charlotteg
You should start your own 'new topic' here http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=23.0 in the French forum as it is unrelated to this topic.

Vous devriez commencer votre propre «nouveau sujet» ici http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=23.0 dans le forum français tel qu'il est sans rapport avec ce sujet.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on June 29, 2013, 03:01:02 AM
Hands-On With The New Modern UI Apps In Windows 8.1 (http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/hands-on-with-the-new-modern-ui-apps-in-windows-8-1/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+addictivetips%2Fwindows+%28AddictiveTips+%C2%BB+Windows%29)
(http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Windows-8.1-New-Built-In-Modern-UI-Apps.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on June 29, 2013, 04:20:50 PM
One of the best features of Win 8 and one that is rarely mentioned, is it's ability to run an ISO file as a virtual optical drive and install things without having to burn the ISO to a disk or mount it with a third party utility.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on July 07, 2013, 05:42:55 AM
Hey I wanted to say thanks for this awesome topic :) I'm getting a gaming PC soon and it going to have windows 8 installed on it. Thanks for these awesome tips which will be useful to learn something about windows 8 and learn about good programs to use for it.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 07, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
You're welcome. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 18, 2013, 10:49:51 AM

(http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/windows_81v2-590x327.jpg)
Microsoft pushes out a handful of fixes for Windows 8.1 Preview (http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-pushes-out-a-handful-of-fixes-for-windows-8-1-preview-7000018197/?s_cid=e589&ttag=e589)

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on July 19, 2013, 09:00:53 AM
Windows 8.1 loses Windows 7 Imaging
http://www.howtogeek.com/167610/8-features-microsoft-removed-in-windows-8.1/

Apparently the only way you can still make a system image is via the command line. The GUI link is gone! Not cool!!
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 19, 2013, 11:52:18 AM
Windows 8.1 loses Windows 7 Imaging
http://www.howtogeek.com/167610/8-features-microsoft-removed-in-windows-8.1/ (http://www.howtogeek.com/167610/8-features-microsoft-removed-in-windows-8.1/)

Apparently the only way you can still make a system image is via the command line. The GUI link is gone! Not cool!!
This will be the first thing for me to check on once I update.
I'm currently finishing a backup in Windows 8:
(http://content.screencast.com/users/bob3160/folders/Snagit/media/fb485cda-453a-46b8-a4a0-8981a34e41b3/07.19.2013-03.44.png)
I'll be installing Windows 8.1 as soon as the final release is available from TechNet.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on July 20, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
DiDo for me also Bob. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: timcan on July 20, 2013, 01:27:46 AM
Windows 8.1 loses Windows 7 Imaging


That is correct according to a thread at wilders security.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=350601 (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=350601)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on July 20, 2013, 01:52:17 AM
They really do seem to be going out of their way to hack off users, give them back something (Start button and very limited options) but take something else away.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 23, 2013, 04:34:45 PM

(http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/r/story/70/00/018398/06-default-apps-440x387.jpg?hash=ZGHlZzV4Lm&upscale=1)
The Metro hater's guide to the Windows 8.1 Preview (http://www.zdnet.com/the-metro-haters-guide-to-the-windows-8-1-preview-7000018398/?s_cid=e539&ttag=e539)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 25, 2013, 11:05:00 PM
New avast! AV downloads for Windows 8.1:


Please try this version for 8.1:
  • free: http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/a8r2/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe (http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/a8r2/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe)
  • pro: http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/a8r2/avast_pro_antivirus_setup.exe (http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/a8r2/avast_pro_antivirus_setup.exe)
  • is: http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/a8r2/avast_internet_security_setup.exe (http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/a8r2/avast_internet_security_setup.exe)
  • premier: http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/a8r2/avast_premier_antivirus_setup.exe (http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/a8r2/avast_premier_antivirus_setup.exe)
  • Let me know if it helps, thanks.[/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l]

I'm downloading the free version right now and will post back.

   
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 26, 2013, 02:17:10 AM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1374797547182-98244.png) (http://youtu.be/eEk1rxnG838)
http://youtu.be/eEk1rxnG838 (http://youtu.be/eEk1rxnG838)
Not bad. No errors, No conflicts.
(The final "no thanks, I'll stay with the free version selection doesn't work.)
I closed that screen by clicking on the X at the top right of the window.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 26, 2013, 05:47:35 PM
Disable or Re-enable the Auto Arrange function in Windows 8 (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4299-windows-explorer-auto-arrange-disable-windows-8-a.html)
The auto arrange feature is always on in Windows 8


Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: GustavoRiddle on July 28, 2013, 09:33:06 PM
I've installed this version, but it's not updating... It says "Cannot connect to server"...
What can I do?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 29, 2013, 07:30:55 PM
Hello,

To fix the Problem follow this Guide:

1. Open the Interface and go to Settings->Troubleshooting and disable Self-Protection
2.Download this folder: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B28ldDzASOt3WDkzTjZPZFBlMmc/edit?usp=sharing
3.Go to C:->Programms->Avast Software->Avast->Setup and replace the File Servers.def
4. Turn the Self-Protection back on and update Avast.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: GustavoRiddle on July 30, 2013, 02:11:35 AM
THANKS!!!!

I've followed your instructions and Avast managed to update normally!!!

Thank you very much!!!
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2013, 02:52:26 AM
I've installed this version, but it's not updating... It says "Cannot connect to server"...
What can I do?
You'll find the answer at:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=129351.msg968667#msg968667 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=129351.msg968667#msg968667)
Any further questions about avast! and Windows 8.1 should be posted in that thread.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Secondmineboy on July 30, 2013, 03:22:24 PM
Glad that i could help you Gustavo ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on July 30, 2013, 10:37:45 PM
I picked up an unused copy of Win 8 Pro on eBay for only $32. It will be installed on my older laptop in place of or alongside XP and I'll get the 8.1 update when it's released through Windows Update. I have found that almost all of my legacy games can be made to work in Win 8.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 31, 2013, 10:46:59 AM
I picked up an unused copy of Win 8 Pro on eBay for only $32. It will be installed on my older laptop in place of or alongside XP and I'll get the 8.1 update when it's released through Windows Update. I have found that almost all of my legacy games can be made to work in Win 8.
I've mentioned that fact about 1 year ago. :) The compatibility mode in Windows 8 is excellent. 
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on August 23, 2013, 05:07:24 PM
Start menu” on Lenovo Windows 8 PCs will nag you to install apps (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/start-menu-on-lenovo-windows-8-pcs-will-nag-you-to-install-apps/)
I'll obviously avoid that brand!  >:(
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on August 23, 2013, 11:33:20 PM
I picked up an unused copy of Win 8 Pro on eBay for only $32. It will be installed on my older laptop in place of or alongside XP and I'll get the 8.1 update when it's released through Windows Update. I have found that almost all of my legacy games can be made to work in Win 8.
I've mentioned that fact about 1 year ago. :) The compatibility mode in Windows 8 is excellent.
Yes but the real kicker was the discovery of a utility that modifies the latest AMD video driver to work with my 2005 legacy card. Previous to that my only option in Win8 was the driver provided by HP which is from 2006 and has problems even with games from that time. This has nothing to with Win8's compatibility mode which I agree is better than in previous Windows versions.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: !Donovan on August 30, 2013, 12:02:48 AM
Start menu” on Lenovo Windows 8 PCs will nag you to install apps (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/start-menu-on-lenovo-windows-8-pcs-will-nag-you-to-install-apps/)
I'll obviously avoid that brand!  >:(

Pokki is actually quite good. I've used it before and I'm sure many of the less-savvy computer users will enjoy it. :)

~!Donovan
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 10, 2013, 08:40:41 AM
Microsoft reverses course; releases Windows 8.1 RTM to developers. (http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-reverses-course-releases-windows-8-1-rtm-to-developers-7000020402/?s_cid=e589&ttag=e589)
Nice to see that enough voices have persuaded the powers that be to listen to reason.
(I'm busy downloading from TechNet now. ) :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on September 10, 2013, 04:14:46 PM
Start menu” on Lenovo Windows 8 PCs will nag you to install apps (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/start-menu-on-lenovo-windows-8-pcs-will-nag-you-to-install-apps/)
I'll obviously avoid that brand!  >:(
It's also going to be on Acer PC's. This is a quote from the article
Quote
it "doesn't strive to mimic any particular version of the Windows Start menu, and as such it's not plagued with the same dashed hopes and shattered expectations as Classic Shell,"
I wasn't aware there were any "dashed hopes and shattered expectations", Classic Shell works very well and now with the Windows 7 skin, it looks and works exactly like Win7.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 18, 2013, 12:17:35 AM
During my recent visit to the APCUG Digital Technology Conference in Dayton, OH (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=78426.msg988896#msg988896)
I attended a presentation held by Keith Mayer (http://blogs.technet.com/b/keithmayer/) and asked him what happened to the
Image Backup in Windows 8.1. Today he sent me the answer:
Backup and Recovery of Windows 8 & Windows 8.1 - Tip-of-the-Day (http://blogs.technet.com/b/keithmayer/archive/2013/09/17/backup-amp-recovery-of-windows-8-windows8-itpro-tipoftheday.aspx#.UjjSRUD8LA0)


I guess you can consider this a fringe benefit of doing the presentations for Avast.
I not only do Presentations but also have the opportunity to attend and learn. :)

(http://blogs.technet.com/resized-image.ashx/__size/510x0/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-00-94-09/2844.Windows81_2D00_SystemImageBackup.png)

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 06, 2013, 08:43:08 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1381084667046-16882.png)
ClassicShell v4.0 has been released. (http://www.classicshell.net/)
Gives you back the Start Button in Windows 8 and replaces the unfulfilled promise in 8.1

Classic Shell™ is free software that improves your productivity, enhances the usability
of Windows and empowers you to use the computer the way you like it. The main features are:
Highly customizable start menu with multiple styles and skins
Quick access to recent, frequently-used, or pinned programs
Find programs, settings, files and documents
Start button for Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1
Toolbar and status bar for Windows Explorer
Caption and status bar for Internet Explorer
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 07, 2013, 08:08:14 PM
Has come some distance since I first installed it a year ago. ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 07, 2013, 10:27:53 PM
Has come some distance since I first installed it a year ago. ;)
Yes and IMHO, it's still the best free actual Start Button replacement for Windows 8 and 8.1 :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 08, 2013, 04:47:31 AM
Has come some distance since I first installed it a year ago. ;)
Yes and IMHO, it's still the best free actual Start Button replacement for Windows 8 and 8.1 :)
I would have to agree.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 08, 2013, 04:54:41 AM
Has come some distance since I first installed it a year ago. ;)
Yes and IMHO, it's still the best free actual Start Button replacement for Windows 8 and 8.1 :)

+2 ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on October 10, 2013, 03:31:15 AM
I am not a windows 8 user yet (Hope to be one after Christmas though ;D)  but i am wondering this right now.. If you don't make a windows 8 local account and just use a MS Account to login.. Does if you were to go for say on another computer go to your MS account outlook and change the password.. Would that also change the windows 8 login?  I'm just wondering as because i wouldn't want my outlook to get hacked and lose access to my future windows 8.1 machine..  Just a bit worried because my e-mails have been hacked about 3 times this year  :-[
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 10, 2013, 02:51:46 PM
On your computer, it's your sign on password.
If it's also you MS account password than it will also sign you into your MS account at the same time.
If you change your MS account Password, then you'll have one for your computer and one for your MS account.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 10, 2013, 07:46:28 PM
On your computer, it's your sign on password.
If it's also you MS account password than it will also sign you into your MS account at the same time.
If you change your MS account Password, then you'll have one for your computer and one for your MS account.
I think that's right but then I have my Win 8 machine set to skip the password entry and boot straight to the desktop. I have never used a Windows password.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on October 10, 2013, 09:21:11 PM
On your computer, it's your sign on password.
If it's also you MS account password than it will also sign you into your MS account at the same time.
If you change your MS account Password, then you'll have one for your computer and one for your MS account.
I think that's right but then I have my Win 8 machine set to skip the password entry and boot straight to the desktop. I have never used a Windows password.
Wait. Dch48 its possible to skip and not use a windows password with an Microsoft account on windows 8, or is that only possible with local account?  I have never used a windows password either..  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 11, 2013, 04:11:53 AM
Bypassing the password screen is different from not entering a password or,
the relationship between your Microsoft account and the password used when you sign into windows.
Now you should be totally confused. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 11, 2013, 05:49:23 AM
On your computer, it's your sign on password.
If it's also you MS account password than it will also sign you into your MS account at the same time.
If you change your MS account Password, then you'll have one for your computer and one for your MS account.
I think that's right but then I have my Win 8 machine set to skip the password entry and boot straight to the desktop. I have never used a Windows password.
Wait. Dch48 its possible to skip and not use a windows password with an Microsoft account on windows 8, or is that only possible with local account?  I have never used a windows password either..  :)
You have to set a password but you can then tell Windows 8 to log you in automatically without having to enter it every time.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 11, 2013, 09:51:51 AM
Go to the modern start screen and type  netplwiz  once the box is shown open it and untick the option to sign in and you'll never have to sign in again :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 11, 2013, 01:04:11 PM
Go to the modern start screen and type  netplwiz  once the box is shown open it and untick the option to sign in and you'll never have to sign in again :)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1381489410514-62434.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 11, 2013, 08:43:24 PM
Go to the modern start screen and type  netplwiz  once the box is shown open it and untick the option to sign in and you'll never have to sign in again :)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1381489410514-62434.png)
One more thing is required after unchecking that box. You then are asked to choose an account that will sign in automatically so just choose the default one you set up with whatever user name you chose.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 16, 2013, 05:03:42 PM
Windows 8.1 is Just Around the Corner, Are You Ready to Switch? (http://www.askvg.com/windows-8-1-is-just-around-the-corner-are-you-ready-to-switch/#comment-1067659)
A free upgrade for those already running Windows 8.
The much talked about "Start Button" isn't really a start button.
I still recommend that if you have to have the Start Button, you
download Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/).
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 16, 2013, 06:58:25 PM
Windows 8.1 is Just Around the Corner, Are You Ready to Switch? (http://www.askvg.com/windows-8-1-is-just-around-the-corner-are-you-ready-to-switch/#comment-1067659)
A free upgrade for those already running Windows 8.
The much talked about "Start Button" isn't really a start button.
I still recommend that if you have to have the Start Button, you
download Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/).
I'm not sure I'll bother with getting 8.1. Some of the changes I don't like but then it does have IE 11 so maybe.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 16, 2013, 07:45:34 PM
I'm not sure I'll bother with getting 8.1. Some of the changes I don't like but then it does have IE 11 so maybe.
There is a lot bug fixes so if you already have Win8 you would be silly not to update imo.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 16, 2013, 08:17:20 PM
If you already have Windows 8 on your system, you loose NOTHING except the time to do the update.
You do gain a lot of fixes that make the use of Windows 8X easier.
Your programs and settings are all retained when you upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 17, 2013, 04:59:24 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1382021789225-80047.png) If you're ready to update from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1,
Then go to: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/buy (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/buy)

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 17, 2013, 05:04:03 PM
Im downloading it right now.

But with an 100 MBits Wirless Connection this will take some hours.......... ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 17, 2013, 05:27:49 PM
Im downloading it right now.

But with an 100 MBits Wirless Connection this will take some hours.......... ;)
Even with a fairly fast download speed it takes time and, the actual conversion takes quite a long time.
I know I've already done it on 3 other computers. Not having used the last computer that I'm now updating and
changing over to Win 8.1 since Aug 2013 makes this even more time consuming. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 17, 2013, 07:06:48 PM
Finally installed :) 3.6Gb download plus an hour to install so about 2 - 2 1/2 hours all up for me.

Annoying how all the pre-installed apps that I had removed were re-installed and the Protected Mode was re-enabled I discovered once I opened the browser for the first time and got the warning that several add-ons were incompatible such as Avast's Browser Protection :(
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 17, 2013, 07:25:49 PM
Where are you getting the Update?
I ran Windows Update (I thought it was to come up) but shows No Updates. ???
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: essexboy on October 17, 2013, 07:30:04 PM
I had to get it through windows store using the metro screen
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 17, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
I had to get it through windows store using the metro screen

Thanks.  ;)
Did I miss read the information.
Was it not to show up in the Updates process. No matter.

Edit
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: essexboy on October 17, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
Maybe it is being staged in windows updates to reduce server load ..  Or just MS trying to force you to use metro :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 17, 2013, 08:43:40 PM
I had to get it through windows store using the metro screen

Thanks.  ;)
Did I miss read the information.
Was it not to show up in the Updates process. No matter.

Edit
I was reading one of those posts by Bob about the 8.1 release and it said it will be available through the windows store, low and behold when I checked the store this evening there was the big advertisement for 8.1 ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 17, 2013, 09:02:02 PM
Just resetet the system to delivery state cause it was crashing over time again.

Now i will update the system and then i will install Windows 8.1
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 17, 2013, 09:40:27 PM
Just for your information, if you're using Windows 8.0 Enterprise addition,
it can NOT be updated through the Windows store.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 17, 2013, 09:44:28 PM
No normal Windows 8 64-Bit.

I have to update graphic drivers and the Windows Updates and Apps at the moment.

This will take some time.

I started an update some hours ago but my computer began to crash again, which i had some
weeks ago, Chrome was causing it.

Now after the reset it is running better, and its not crashing.

To update Windows on a crashing system would not help me.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: YLAP on October 17, 2013, 09:53:43 PM
Successfully updated to 8.1. Everything is fine. Only one small leftover from old SkyDrive app which cannot be removed in any way, and can't be repaired by Windows Store too. As SkyDrive was integrated info 8.1 something went not right with SkyDrive app from 8. I hope MS will fix it in the future.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: YLAP on October 17, 2013, 10:12:55 PM
And Internet Explorer 11 does not like avast plugins, it says they are incompatible (LT: Nesuderinama), yet they are loaded fine when I run IE11 as administrator  ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 17, 2013, 11:14:01 PM
Here's a helpful article on How to upgrade to Windows 8.1 from earlier versions of Windows (http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57607999-285/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-8.1-from-earlier-versions-of-windows/?tag=nl.e214&s_cid=e214&ttag=e214&ftag=CAD3c77551)
Please not that we aren't talking about FREE unless your updating from Windows 8.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 18, 2013, 03:21:59 AM
So far I have not been able to complete the upgrade download from Windows Store.
Seems to loose data flow (or something) and start over from the beginning. Just got as far as 51% complete and then slipped back to beginning :-[
Man :P

Edit: Wireless connection
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2013, 10:46:08 AM
schmidthouse have you tried using your original DNS settings from your ISP ? OpenDNS could be interrupting the flow or blocking the return of some of the data.

At 51% I think the download part has completed and then it switches to gathering data if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 18, 2013, 07:23:26 PM
schmidthouse have you tried using your original DNS settings from your ISP ? OpenDNS could be interrupting the flow or blocking the return of some of the data.

At 51% I think the download part has completed and then it switches to gathering data if I remember correctly.

LOL never even thought about that.
Well things just seem slower these days  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 18, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
schmidthouse have you tried using your original DNS settings from your ISP ? OpenDNS could be interrupting the flow or blocking the return of some of the data.

At 51% I think the download part has completed and then it switches to gathering data if I remember correctly.

LOL never even thought about that.
Well things just seem slower these days  ;D ;D
It's just a thought so hopefully it works for you :-\
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 19, 2013, 01:32:40 AM
I updated late last night and it was something of a disaster. First off it took at least 2 hours to complete and then I found a few things broken. Classic Shell had to be completely reinstalled, Comodo wouldn't load and also had to be reinstalled, my video driver also had to be reinstalled since it reverted back to the generic one that only supports 1024X768 resolution. My settings to skip the password on login also had to be redone. Then I had to remove the windows.old folder again to regain almost 6gb of space and do a boot defrag with Puran  because my registry was now in 45 pieces and the drive was heavily fragmented. I also had to turn off the Enhanced Protection Mode in IE11 to get Flash and Java to work.  I think everything is working right now but it took at least 5 hours to get it that way. The performance is no better than it was and the new features, for the most part, will never be used. I'm thinking I should have skipped it.

One thing I did discover is that the need for Classic Shell is almost eliminated. The new Start button does not only take you to the "Metro Screen" but if you right click it, gives a multitude of shortcuts to things like Control Panel, Device Manager, Command Prompt, My PC settings, shut down, and many more things. If you also add the Desktop Toolbar to the Task Bar, you have access to almost all of the Start Menu. All your programs are listed and accessible as well as other settings. The only thing I was missing was my browser favorites and the only reason I felt a need for Classic Shell was to get them back since IE is my default browser. If you use something else, the favorites access won't be missed since it only works with the ones stored by IE.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 19, 2013, 02:53:56 AM
Lovely.
For me, I can't get the free Upgrade downloaded for windows store. Keeps starting over.
Reached as high as 50% and then just keeps starting over (And not from where it left off) and going back to 0%
Don't understand why It keeps going back to 0 :-[ :-[
Only Internet access is Wireless connections.
Been trying for 2 days
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on October 19, 2013, 01:07:38 PM
I also had a very painful experience upgrading, first off the upgrade takes way too long. On my machine it took about an hour for everything to complete, that is on a modern quad core system with an SSD drive, 8Gb of RAM and a 100mbps optic fibre internet connection. As i said way too long, Win 8 install took just a few minutes in comparison. But ok i am patient so that was not so much of an issue for me.

The real issues were some of my programs had to be reinstalled and also some drivers(soundcard,intel RST,steering wheel drivers etc.). Also some of my custom windows settings had to be re-applied. And to top it all off, every time i restarted i received a BSOD which was a real pain trying to diagnose and solve(took a few hours).

Damn, all that work and for what ? A Start button ? Cause that is the only useful new feature for me, everything else is basically the same as on 8 and i don't care about Metro Apps as i don't use them with the only exception being the Mail app.

Also what happened to the Libraries ??!

Dch48 i agree with you, could have skipped this upgrade. Infact i am thinking about restoring back to 8(i did a fresh backup before upgrading).


P.S.: http://lifehacker.com/how-to-bring-libraries-back-in-windows-8-1-1446756473
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on October 19, 2013, 01:50:27 PM
Anyone noticed this ?

http://www.winbeta.org/news/using-ie11-windows-81-google-may-be-broken-you
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 19, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
Quote
One thing I did discover is that the need for Classic Shell is almost eliminated. The new Start button does not only take you to the "Metro Screen" but if you right click it, gives a multitude of shortcuts to things like Control Panel, Device Manager, Command Prompt, My PC settings, shut down, and many more things.
All you're seeing is what has always been available by using the Windows Key and the X Key. (That by the way is still available in 8.1)
It certainly isn't a start button.
If you had been using the latest version of Classic Shell before the conversion, you wouldn't have had any problems after conversion.
Drivers should also be updated before conversion where ever possible.
I could give you an easy program to use but, since most of you will not use anything from IObits, I will not mention DriverBooster (Free).

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 19, 2013, 03:34:57 PM

How to Download Windows 8.1 RTM Standalone Offline ISO for Clean Installation? (http://www.askvg.com/how-to-download-windows-8-1-rtm-standalone-offline-iso-for-clean-installation/)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 19, 2013, 06:05:04 PM
Quote
One thing I did discover is that the need for Classic Shell is almost eliminated. The new Start button does not only take you to the "Metro Screen" but if you right click it, gives a multitude of shortcuts to things like Control Panel, Device Manager, Command Prompt, My PC settings, shut down, and many more things.
All you're seeing is what has always been available by using the Windows Key and the X Key. (That by the way is still available in 8.1)
It certainly isn't a start button.
If you had been using the latest version of Classic Shell before the conversion, you wouldn't have had any problems after conversion.
Drivers should also be updated before conversion where ever possible.
I could give you an easy program to use but, since most of you will not use anything from IObits, I will not mention DriverBooster (Free).
Bob, I was and am using the very latest 4.0 version of Classic Shell and after the upgrade it wouldn't load at all. It had to be reinstalled just like my video driver (which can not be updated past it's present state, I have to use legacy drivers and I will never use any kind of driver updating program. They can't be trusted) and Comodo. It has been discovered that the upgrade destroys some of the Comodo registry entries and prevents it from loading correctly.  I suspect it messes up others as well. Everywhere I look the prevailing opinion is that the upgrading is a complete fiasco.

 I brought up the right click of the new Start button because it isn't even mentioned in most of the reviews of Win 8.1. All they say is that it only takes you to the tile (Metro) screen which is not accurate. It is not the true Start button we're all used to but it's better than not having one at all. I also never use keyboard shortcuts so I wouldn't know about the win-x thing.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 19, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
@Dch48,
Since I use avast! to protect my computer not Comodo Security as you apparently do,
I had no problems updating to Windows 8.1 and am right now in the process of updating my Dell Mini
through the link I posted in my original Win. 8.1 post. (Through the Windows Store)
I have no clue what Comodo does or doesn't do when you update to Wind. 8.1 and personally don't care.

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 19, 2013, 06:15:45 PM
@Dch48,
Since I use avast! to protect my computer not Comodo Security as you apparently do,
I had no problems updating to Windows 8.1 and am right now in the process of updating my Dell Mini
through the link I posted in my original Win. 8.1 post. (Through the Windows Store)
I have no clue what Comodo does or doesn't do when you update to Wind. 8.1 and personally don't care.
People using Avast are also having big problems and having to reinstall. Read the other threads about it.

I did the upgrade through the Windows Store as well.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 19, 2013, 06:53:52 PM
Dch48 it's not avast causing update issues as I've completed my third system update now, two of them with avast and Outpost firewall and one with Outpost Security suite and not one problem on any of them, once I get my bandwidth renewed I've still got another two to do ::) :)

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 19, 2013, 06:55:19 PM
On going for me. Still no success getting the 8.1 Upgrade to succeed.
Last attempt, the process actually showed the stage change from 'downloading' to "Installing".
About 30 seconds after the change to "Installing" the whole process started over and went back to Downloading 0% :o
Have no I idea what the issue is,

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Secondmineboy on October 19, 2013, 06:58:41 PM
I had a false positive which is already solved while downloading the Update, i had to restore the file from the chest.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 19, 2013, 07:04:32 PM
schmidthouse the next thing I might try would be to refresh your system back  to when you first installed 8 and then do the update from the store ( but that would mean reinstalling all programs :( ) "or" download the iso from the link in Bobs post earlier and install offline and that should work.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 19, 2013, 07:13:49 PM
schmidthouse the next thing I might try would be to refresh your system back  to when you first installed 8 and then do the update from the store ( but that would mean reinstalling all programs :( ) "or" download the iso from the link in Bobs post earlier and install offline and that should work.

Thanks Craig, appreciate the time. Mmm a Refresh, have definitely considered that as deferred option at this point, but definitely doable. :P
Yes I saw Bobs link. That's an RTM so will that cause a validation/registration issues down the road as that would be, shall we say, not the typical way to get the 8.1 upgrade?

Edit:  Refresh it is. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 19, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
A quote from Ivo, the author of Classic Shell after I posted in their forum that the 8.1 upgrade broke the program.
Quote
Yes, this is a known limitation: http://www.classicshell.net/faq/#general_win81

The problem is that the upgrade wipes out the registry where Classic Shell is installed. So after the upgrade Classic Shell doesn't have the opportunity to run and repair itself.
One possible solution is to install a service on Windows 8, whose only job is to detect when the upgrade happens. But that's an overkill.

And from their FAQ,
Quote
If you upgrade Windows from 8 to 8.1 with the option to preserve the programs, the start menu will not automatically run after boot. You will need to re-run the installer of Classic Shell and choose the “Repair” option.

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 19, 2013, 08:15:13 PM
@David,
If you're updating your Dell Mini, you'll again need to fix the display problem.
I just had to follow my own tutorial and now have it set for 1024X768 which took care of the Apps not loading problem.
http://youtu.be/yM0SQyuk7_4 (http://youtu.be/yM0SQyuk7_4)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on October 19, 2013, 08:26:28 PM
@ Bob3160
If that's for me ?
Not on a Dell Mini, but an Acer Aspire One, Win7 Starter (32bit) 10.1", 1024X600 screen. Presumably it wouldn't just be specific to the Dell Mini but other 1024x600 resolution screens.

However, that said I'm not considering updating that from win7 to win8.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 19, 2013, 08:47:59 PM
@ Bob3160
If that's for me ?
Not on a Dell Mini, but an Acer Aspire One, Win7 Starter (32bit) 10.1", 1024X600 screen. Presumably it wouldn't just be specific to the Dell Mini but other 1024x600 resolution screens.

However, that said I'm not considering updating that from win7 to win8.
I can't guarantee that it would work on others since I have no way to try it but, it should work on others since it's a simple registry change.
Should you want to try it, just back up the registry befor you make any changes. (This last comment was meant for novice users)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 20, 2013, 06:39:53 PM
8.1 upgrade went 'smooth' lol  ::)
Only a Refresh of Win8 and then the upgrade through store worked.
Still, as reported in previous posts, download and install took about 3 hours. :P
Anyway, laughin now. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 20, 2013, 07:11:12 PM
8.1 upgrade went 'smooth' lol  ::)
Only a Refresh of Win8 and then the upgrade through store worked.
Still, as reported in previous posts, download and install took about 3 hours. :P
Anyway, laughin now. :)
Finally! good to hear that you eventually got it installed :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 20, 2013, 07:13:30 PM
8.1 upgrade went 'smooth' lol  ::)
Only a Refresh of Win8 and then the upgrade through store worked.
Still, as reported in previous posts, download and install took about 3 hours. :P
Anyway, laughin now. :)
Finally! good to hear that you eventually got it installed :)

Thanks for your input, always love the support from my Forum compatriots.
System just 'flying along',  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 20, 2013, 08:38:51 PM
My update on the Dell MINI also went smoothly using the Microsoft Store.
Only problem I had was to again fix the Video output to an acceptable size.
That wasn't a problem, I had a good teacher. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Davie Biagi on October 20, 2013, 11:07:50 PM
Was avast not aware that windows was planning an upgrade?  Why am I paying for avast protection that isn't available with the upgrade?  Should I just drop avast and go with an application that is more current?  Any body have any suggestions for a working, good internet security application?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 20, 2013, 11:17:38 PM
Was avast not aware that windows was planning an upgrade?  Why am I paying for avast protection that isn't available with the upgrade?  Should I just drop avast and go with an application that is more current?  Any body have any suggestions for a working, good internet security application?
Welcome to the forum. :)

If you would explain your problem, maybe you could receive some help.
avast! 2014 is fully compatible with Windows 8.1.
Joining a forum simply to complain about something that really doesn't make sense isn't of any benefit for anyone.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 20, 2013, 11:32:38 PM
I'm not going to upgrade to W8.1 for a while from MS Store until they release the MS patches for W8.1, because their might be some minder bugs and my Autodesk Revit Structure software is not ready for W8.1 until they release the next version.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 21, 2013, 12:25:11 PM
Classic Shell 4.0.2 has been released. (http://www.classicshell.net/)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 21, 2013, 10:56:47 PM
OK, so now I have Win 8.1 installed via Windows Store free Upgrade and is running Great, how can I get the Install File on CD/DVD or download the Set up file to burn to CD/DVD?
Anyone with the simplest way.  Like Microsoft made it simple. ::)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 22, 2013, 06:30:29 AM
I did it but you have to trick the downloader to download 8.1 by using a windows 8 key. Then if want to able to use the subsequent burned disc to install 8.1 you have to edit the iso by adding a small text file that also lets you install 8.1 and activate it with your valid Win8 key. Until or even if MS decides to let holders of valid Win8 licenses download the 8.1 iso file this is the only way to get it. I'll post a link to the site that shows you how to do it.
http://www.neowin.net/news/here-is-how-to-get-the-windows-81-iso-and-create-a-usb-install-stick

It will work to upgrade from 8 to 8.1 only and can be useful if you have more than one machine that needs to be upgraded since you won't have to do the download and install from the Windows Store again.

Now if you want to be able to use the usb stick or DVD to do a fresh install of 8.1 you need to do this.

Extract the iso file with something like 7-Zip and add a small text file called ei.cfg to the sources folder. This is what this will do.
Quote
you can create a new file in the sources folder called ei.cfg with the following in it:

[EditionID]
Professional
[Channel]
Retail
[VL]
0

This will make it ask for a key after installation instead of before, and it accepts windows 8 keys.
The file can be created in Notepad. You then will have to burn the iso again to a new disk or you can do the edit before burning it to disk or USB stick. It also only works if you have the pro version. If you have the standard core Win8 then type in Core instead of Professional.  This is all legal by the way since MS is the source of the .cfg file and you still need a valid Win8 key to make it work.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 22, 2013, 06:36:29 AM
I did it but you have to trick the downloader to download 8.1 by using a windows 8 key. Then if want to able to use the subsequent burned disc to install 8.1 you have to edit the iso by adding a small text file that also lets you install 8.1 and activate it with your valid Win8 key. Until or even if MS decides to let holders of valid Win8 licenses to download the 8.1 iso file this is the only way to get it. 'll post a link to the site that shows you how to do it.
http://www.neowin.net/news/here-is-how-to-get-the-windows-81-iso-and-create-a-usb-install-stick

It will work to upgrade from 8 to 8.1 only and can be useful if you have more than one machine that needs to be upgraded since you won't have to do the download and install from the Windows Store again.

Now if you want to be able to use the usb stick or DVD to do a fresh install of 8.1 you need to do this.

Extract the iso file with something like 7-Zip and add a small text file called ei.cfg to the sources folder. This is what this will do.
Quote
you can create a new file in the sources folder called ei.cfg with the following in it:

[EditionID]
Professional
[Channel]
Retail
[VL]
0

This will make it ask for a key after installation instead of before, and it accepts windows 8 keys.
The file can be created in Notepad. You then will have to burn the iso again to a new disk or you can do the edit before burning it to disk or USB stick. It also only works if you have the pro version. If you have the standard core Win8 then type in Core instead of Professional.  This is all legal by the way since MS is the source of the .cfg file

Thanks for your input.
Certainly not straight forward, but as you elude too, no real other option at this time. :-[
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 22, 2013, 07:51:00 AM
[Guide] How to Upgrade to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8, Windows 7, XP and Vista?
http://www.askvg.com/guide-how-to-upgrade-to-windows-8-1-from-windows-8/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 22, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
OK, so now I have Win 8.1 installed via Windows Store free Upgrade and is running Great, how can I get the Install File on CD/DVD or download the Set up file to burn to CD/DVD?
Anyone with the simplest way.  Like Microsoft made it simple. ::)
Easiest way is to copy the BT folder that is created in C drive after updating to 8.1 to a spare usb, do this before running windows disc clean as once you delet the old file and windows update files they'll be gone for good.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on October 22, 2013, 02:04:59 PM
Easiest way is to copy the BT folder that is created in C drive after updating to 8.1 to a spare usb, do this before running windows disc clean as once you delet the old file and windows update files they'll be gone for good.
You'll need a legit 8.1 key to install then. A Windows 8 key won't work.
There are workarounds.
But, for me, that upgrade from Windows 7 to 8, my "upgrade" key of Windows 8 is not allowed to be used to a clean installation of Windows 8.1 and even 8...
I can't believe we need to go to underground techniques to use a legit key of Microsoft...
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on October 22, 2013, 02:10:50 PM
Easiest way is to copy the BT folder that is created in C drive after updating to 8.1 to a spare usb, do this before running windows disc clean as once you delet the old file and windows update files they'll be gone for good.
You'll need a legit 8.1 key to install then. A Windows 8 key won't work.
There are workarounds.
But, for me, that upgrade from Windows 7 to 8, my "upgrade" key of Windows 8 is not allowed to be used to a clean installation of Windows 8.1 and even 8...
I can't believe we need to go to underground techniques to use a legit key of Microsoft...

Thanks for the heads up Tech cause I'm about to upgrade W8 to W8.1 soon need to wait a bit longer first before I go to fast to soon, I don't won't to screw my only laptop because this is the only computer I currently have.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 22, 2013, 02:16:46 PM
Either use the Store update method or follow the instructions from askVG.
The update through the store worked for me on my Dell MINI except for the change
in the display settings which needed to be redone.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 22, 2013, 02:52:37 PM
Easiest way is to copy the BT folder that is created in C drive after updating to 8.1 to a spare usb, do this before running windows disc clean as once you delet the old file and windows update files they'll be gone for good.
You'll need a legit 8.1 key to install then. A Windows 8 key won't work.
That sux :( So if the xxxx hits the fan I have to re-install 8 then flash my 8.1 image ::) long way round but that still works, keep a copy of the ESD folder as well as the BT folder just for safe keeps.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 22, 2013, 03:08:23 PM
Easiest way is to copy the BT folder that is created in C drive after updating to 8.1 to a spare usb, do this before running windows disc clean as once you delet the old file and windows update files they'll be gone for good.
You'll need a legit 8.1 key to install then. A Windows 8 key won't work.
There are workarounds.
But, for me, that upgrade from Windows 7 to 8, my "upgrade" key of Windows 8 is not allowed to be used to a clean installation of Windows 8.1 and even 8...
I can't believe we need to go to underground techniques to use a legit key of Microsoft...
You can update to Windows 8 and then update Windows 8 to Windows 8.1. That is allowed.
Simply follow the rules. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on October 22, 2013, 03:14:22 PM
Either use the Store update method or follow the instructions from askVG.
If anything is different in your system compared to what they post there, it does not work.
I've tried 4 times to install Win 8.1. It was the most difficult update to get. Worse, I won't install Windows 7 then upgrade to Windows 8 and then to Windows 8.1 to do a simple "installation" from scratch... :P
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on October 22, 2013, 03:18:15 PM
An Important Disk Cleanup Job after Upgrading to Windows 8.1
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/important-disk-cleanup-job-after-upgrading-windows-81.htm
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 22, 2013, 03:45:18 PM
An Important Disk Cleanup Job after Upgrading to Windows 8.1
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/important-disk-cleanup-job-after-upgrading-windows-81.htm (http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/important-disk-cleanup-job-after-upgrading-windows-81.htm)
The savings may be great if you're updating from Windows 7 or earlier to Windows 8.1
There isn't a great disk space saving if you've updated from Windows 8.  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 22, 2013, 04:49:56 PM
An Important Disk Cleanup Job after Upgrading to Windows 8.1
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/important-disk-cleanup-job-after-upgrading-windows-81.htm (http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/important-disk-cleanup-job-after-upgrading-windows-81.htm)
The savings may be great if you're updating from Windows 7 or earlier to Windows 8.1
There isn't a great disk space saving if you've updated from Windows 8.  :)
It cleared up just under 4Gb for me with every box possible ticked, also one of Win8 systems that I have which still uses a HDD was 50% fragmented after the 8.1 upgrade so running disc defrag cured the sluggishness.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 22, 2013, 09:56:45 PM
An Important Disk Cleanup Job after Upgrading to Windows 8.1
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/important-disk-cleanup-job-after-upgrading-windows-81.htm (http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/important-disk-cleanup-job-after-upgrading-windows-81.htm)
The savings may be great if you're updating from Windows 7 or earlier to Windows 8.1
There isn't a great disk space saving if you've updated from Windows 8.  :)
I cleaned up just under 6GB of space on a 75GB hard drive. I consider that significant. I also did a boot defrag with Puran because I found the drive to be heavily fragmented and the registry in 45 pieces after the update.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 22, 2013, 10:01:30 PM
OK, so now I have Win 8.1 installed via Windows Store free Upgrade and is running Great, how can I get the Install File on CD/DVD or download the Set up file to burn to CD/DVD?
Anyone with the simplest way.  Like Microsoft made it simple. ::)
Easiest way is to copy the BT folder that is created in C drive after updating to 8.1 to a spare usb, do this before running windows disc clean as once you delet the old file and windows update files they'll be gone for good.
Yes that is easier but in my case I didn't discover that you could get a usable ISO until after I had cleaned up the machine. The method I posted is completely legal and does work. The additional editing also makes it possible to do a clean install of 8.1 using the key from your version of Win8. This ability definitely should be made available by MS so that people who do a reinstall won't first have to install 8 and then get the 8.1 update from the store. That process could take most of your day.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 22, 2013, 10:52:13 PM
Quote
That process could take most of your day.
Do you have something better to do ???  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 23, 2013, 12:14:43 AM
OK, so now I have Win 8.1 installed via Windows Store free Upgrade and is running Great, how can I get the Install File on CD/DVD or download the Set up file to burn to CD/DVD?
Anyone with the simplest way.  Like Microsoft made it simple. ::)
Easiest way is to copy the BT folder that is created in C drive after updating to 8.1 to a spare usb, do this before running windows disc clean as once you delet the old file and windows update files they'll be gone for good.
Yes that is easier but in my case I didn't discover that you could get a usable ISO until after I had cleaned up the machine. The method I posted is completely legal and does work. The additional editing also makes it possible to do a clean install of 8.1 using the key from your version of Win8. This ability definitely should be made available by MS so that people who do a reinstall won't first have to install 8 and then get the 8.1 update from the store. That process could take most of your day.

Yup pretty much what I did.  :-\
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 24, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
There is already an update available from Windows 8.1:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1382629827426-82526.png)


More information:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2883200 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2883200)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 24, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
There is already an update available from Windows 8.1:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1382629827426-82526.png)


More information:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2883200 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2883200)
Seems that update is only for 8.1 x86 bit systems.
It wasn't showing up for me so I checked the details at Microsoft, the only update I received was KB2901549 which was only 23Mb.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on October 24, 2013, 08:25:47 PM
Tis true as I also only received a 23mb update on 64Bit. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 24, 2013, 08:29:21 PM
Since I'm currently on a X86 (32bit) system,
I didn't realize that is was OS computer / OS specific. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 24, 2013, 11:13:19 PM
I'm using 32 bit Windows 8.1 Pro and I checked Windows Update and didn't get that one. I got KB2901549 and I had already gotten 2895219 right after updating to 8.1 a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 24, 2013, 11:16:04 PM
I'm using 32 bit Windows 8.1 Pro and I checked Windows Update and didn't get that one. I got KB2901549 and I had already gotten 2895219 right after updating to 8.1 a couple of days ago.
I just received the latter now when I logged in from home. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on October 24, 2013, 11:28:07 PM
I'm using 32 bit Windows 8.1 Pro and I checked Windows Update and didn't get that one. I got KB2901549 and I had already gotten 2895219 right after updating to 8.1 a couple of days ago.
I just received the latter now when I logged in from home. :)
Well Actually I had the order reversed. 2901549 is for IE 11 and that's the one I had gotten right after the 8.1 update. 2895219 is the one I got today and it fixes issues with the Windows Store. The one you posted, KB 2883200 was supposed to be included in the 8.1 update automatically and I guess it was for me.
Quote
Named GA Rollup A, this update which seems to be a feature improvement will update the internals of Windows 8.1 as well as add some new features in visual. The update would be part of the Windows 8.1 when it is launched for public in DVDs and as free update for Windows 8 users from Store.

The GA Rollup A includes three different updates named KB2894179, KB2883200 and KB2894029 which update many features of Windows 8.1.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 01, 2013, 02:52:58 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1383313451627-96422.png)
     Requires the use of
  (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1383313746901-36714.png)  AND (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1383313926083-46949.png)
Hope that helps :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 08, 2013, 08:38:01 PM
Was wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
In the 'Notification Area Icons' accessed through Control Panel, I have icons and some duplicated icons of programs no longer used.
I can't see how to delete them from Area? They are building up. ???
Anyone know how to delete unused/not wanted icons in this Area :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2013, 11:16:07 PM
Was wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
In the 'Notification Area Icons' accessed through Control Panel, I have icons and some duplicated icons of programs no longer used.
I can't see how to delete them from Area? They are building up. ???
Anyone know how to delete unused/not wanted icons in this Area :)
A screenshot would help since I have nothing in that area that's not on my system.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 09, 2013, 12:07:18 AM
Was wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
In the 'Notification Area Icons' accessed through Control Panel, I have icons and some duplicated icons of programs no longer used.
I can't see how to delete them from Area? They are building up. ???
Anyone know how to delete unused/not wanted icons in this Area :)
A screenshot would help since I have nothing in that area that's not on my system.

Here you Go.  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on November 09, 2013, 12:09:47 AM
Was wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
In the 'Notification Area Icons' accessed through Control Panel, I have icons and some duplicated icons of programs no longer used.
I can't see how to delete them from Area? They are building up. ???
Anyone know how to delete unused/not wanted icons in this Area :)
As far as I know there is only one way to get rid of icons for things that are no longer on the computer. It involves completely deleting the notifications cache and then letting it rebuild from the things you actually have and use. Of course then you have to redo every individual setting for when you want them to show. I have done it a couple of times myself. Open regedit and go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\TrayNotify and delete IconStreams and PastIconStreams. The same entries are found at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\TrayNotify. You may need to do both but just the second one should work. Then reboot the computer.

You can also try this utility; http://leelusoft.blogspot.com/2009/10/tray-cleaner-10.html
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 09, 2013, 12:54:53 AM
Was wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
In the 'Notification Area Icons' accessed through Control Panel, I have icons and some duplicated icons of programs no longer used.
I can't see how to delete them from Area? They are building up. ???
Anyone know how to delete unused/not wanted icons in this Area :)
As far as I know there is only one way to get rid of icons for things that are no longer on the computer. It involves completely deleting the notifications cache and then letting it rebuild from the things you actually have and use. Of course then you have to redo every individual setting for when you want them to show. I have done it a couple of times myself. Open regedit and go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\TrayNotify and delete IconStreams and PastIconStreams. The same entries are found at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\TrayNotify. You may need to do both but just the second one should work. Then reboot the computer.

You can also try this utility; http://leelusoft.blogspot.com/2009/10/tray-cleaner-10.html

Unfortunately, neither the tool (v.2) which by the way stated wasn't supported for my OS (Win 8.1) Ran the tool anyway....nothing changed.
Also editing the Registry as you indicated did not change anything either. :-\
Thanks for your suggestions.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on November 09, 2013, 01:11:50 AM
Was wondering if anyone can enlighten me.
In the 'Notification Area Icons' accessed through Control Panel, I have icons and some duplicated icons of programs no longer used.
I can't see how to delete them from Area? They are building up. ???
Anyone know how to delete unused/not wanted icons in this Area :)
As far as I know there is only one way to get rid of icons for things that are no longer on the computer. It involves completely deleting the notifications cache and then letting it rebuild from the things you actually have and use. Of course then you have to redo every individual setting for when you want them to show. I have done it a couple of times myself. Open regedit and go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\TrayNotify and delete IconStreams and PastIconStreams. The same entries are found at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\TrayNotify. You may need to do both but just the second one should work. Then reboot the computer.

You can also try this utility; http://leelusoft.blogspot.com/2009/10/tray-cleaner-10.html

Unfortunately, neither the tool (v.2) which by the way stated wasn't supported for my OS (Win 8.1) Ran the tool anyway....nothing changed.
Also editing the Registry as you indicated did not change anything either. :-\
Thanks for your suggestions.
Yes I had the same results. It used to work. Windows Explorer needs to be shut down first. There is a batch file that does the trick for you. I just used it and it works perfectly. I'll try to upload it as a .txt file. You will have to rename it to a .bat to get it to work.

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 09, 2013, 02:00:09 AM
No, renaming didn't work for me. But I did find the original Batch File after googling.
Downloaded file and ran it and Presto, all clean.
Very nice. ;) ;D ;D   
 
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13102-notification-area-icons-reset.html (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13102-notification-area-icons-reset.html)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on November 09, 2013, 03:05:23 AM
No, renaming didn't work for me. But I did find the original Batch File after googling.
Downloaded file and ran it and Presto, all clean.
Very nice. ;) ;D ;D   
 
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13102-notification-area-icons-reset.html (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13102-notification-area-icons-reset.html)

You can still used CCleaner Under Advanced, check the Tray notification cache and click Run Cleaner. It will ask to restart explorer.exe.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 09, 2013, 03:24:38 AM
No, renaming didn't work for me. But I did find the original Batch File after googling.
Downloaded file and ran it and Presto, all clean.
Very nice. ;) ;D ;D   
 
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13102-notification-area-icons-reset.html (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13102-notification-area-icons-reset.html)

You can still used CCleaner Under Advanced, check the Tray notification cache and click Run Cleaner. It will ask to restart explorer.exe.

Thnx. for the tip. ;)
Right there under my nose.....never occurred to me.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on November 09, 2013, 04:46:38 AM
No, renaming didn't work for me. But I did find the original Batch File after googling.
Downloaded file and ran it and Presto, all clean.
Very nice. ;) ;D ;D   
 
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13102-notification-area-icons-reset.html (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13102-notification-area-icons-reset.html)

You can still used CCleaner Under Advanced, check the Tray notification cache and click Run Cleaner. It will ask to restart explorer.exe.
Wow I never thought of that either. Very nice. I don't think CCleaner had that option the last time I wanted to clean out the cache.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on November 10, 2013, 10:37:16 AM
I tried doing it with CCleaner and it only works if you go into Task Manager and restart Windows Explorer after running the cleaner. Rebooting does not work. I think the batch file is better because it does it all automatically.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 10, 2013, 05:52:08 PM
+1
The Batch File works very quickly, very straight forward.
Just 'double click'.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 12, 2013, 03:09:48 AM
10 Windows Start menus for Windows 8.1
01. Classic Shell            http://www.classicshell.net/ (http://www.classicshell.net/)
02. Pokki Menu              http://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu (http://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu)
03. Power8                    https://code.google.com/p/power8/ (https://code.google.com/p/power8/)
04. RetroUI Pro              http://retroui.com/ (http://retroui.com/)
05. Start8                      http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/ (http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/)
06. StartIsBack              http://www.startisback.com/#download-tab (http://www.startisback.com/#download-tab)
07. StartMenu8              http://www.iobit.com/iobitstartmenu8.php (http://www.iobit.com/iobitstartmenu8.php)
08. Start Menu Reviver   http://www.reviversoft.com/start-menu-reviver/ (http://www.reviversoft.com/start-menu-reviver/)
09. StartW8                    http://www.areaguard.com/startw8 (http://www.areaguard.com/startw8)
10. ViStart                      http://lee-soft.com/vistart/ (http://lee-soft.com/vistart/)
(Some of these products are not free.)


My recommendation has always been to use Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) - It's free and has always worked without problems
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Lisandro on November 12, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
My recommendation has always been to use Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) - It's free and has always worked without problems
+1
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: SpeedyPC on November 13, 2013, 08:53:48 AM
My recommendation has always been to use Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) - It's free and has always worked without problems
+1

+2 I'm not changing Classic Shell because it not broken 8)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on November 13, 2013, 08:17:54 PM
My recommendation has always been to use Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) - It's free and has always worked without problems
+1

+2 I'm not changing Classic Shell because it not broken 8)
+3 I tried a couple of the others and Classic Shell is the best.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 17, 2013, 03:33:09 AM
Anyone having issues with Media Center crashing on Win 8.1 Pro 64Bit?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on November 17, 2013, 04:20:25 AM
Anyone having issues with Media Center crashing on Win 8.1 Pro 64Bit?
I never use Media Centre so I removed it but you could also try removing it then re-install it and see if it helps, go to Turn Windows Features on or off in Programs and Features and untick the Media Centre box, reverse the process to reinstall it.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 17, 2013, 04:12:30 PM
It's working on my Dell 64 bit. I had problems in the initial ad on process but once that was resolved,
the troubles also ended.
A re-install might be advisable. Be sure to have your registration info handy.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on November 17, 2013, 07:10:25 PM
Thanks guys.

 Tried and no luck as yet.
Whatever, it's not that important to me so I will turn the feature off for now.
Maybe 6 months down the road it start working. ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on November 20, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Override the 4GB memory barrier on 32-bit Windows 8.1 systems (http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/override-the-4gb-memory-barrier-on-32-bit-windows-81-systems/)


Some help in pasting things into the command prompt can be found at:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/25590/how-to-enable-ctrlv-for-pasting-in-the-windows-command-prompt/ (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/25590/how-to-enable-ctrlv-for-pasting-in-the-windows-command-prompt/)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 17, 2013, 03:53:52 PM
Rumors - The return of the "Start Menu"
Windows Threshold which is due to be released in 2015, may also be
the time when you can expect to see the return of the actual Start Menu.
More information:
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-codename-threshold-the-next-major-windows-wave-takes-shape-7000023832/ (http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-codename-threshold-the-next-major-windows-wave-takes-shape-7000023832/)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 17, 2013, 03:59:08 PM
For those of you running Windows 8 or 8.1 and want your traditional Start Menu back,
you can pick from 5 candidates at:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2054422/five-tools-to-bring-the-start-menu-back-to-windows-8-1.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2054422/five-tools-to-bring-the-start-menu-back-to-windows-8-1.html)
(My choice is still Classic Shell. It also has the best overall rating.)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 20, 2013, 11:09:17 PM
I'm ready to submit my order for a Dell Computer with the Windows 8 OS and just wondering about how long it will take me to learn how to use it.  I'm going to use a keyboard and mouse because I don't want a touch screen.

Would appreciate any advice.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 21, 2013, 01:01:35 AM
I'm ready to submit my order for a Dell Computer with the Windows 8 OS and just wondering about how long it will take me to learn how to use it.  I'm going to use a keyboard and mouse because I don't want a touch screen.

Would appreciate any advice.

Thank you.
Once you get that new windows 8.1 computer, install ClassicShell and you shouldn't have any problems using your new computer.
You can also look through this topic to gain some insight into the many things you can do with Windows 8.1.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 21, 2013, 01:15:11 AM
@bob3160,

I will install ClassicShell and I'll read through this topic.

Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on December 21, 2013, 05:39:06 AM
I'm ready to submit my order for a Dell Computer with the Windows 8 OS and just wondering about how long it will take me to learn how to use it.  I'm going to use a keyboard and mouse because I don't want a touch screen.

Would appreciate any advice.

Thank you.
I was one of the ones really down on Win8 when it first came out. As time went on, I decided I wanted to try it so I installed it on my older laptop that had been running XP. It's a single core machine and Win8 is just as fast on it as XP was. As Bob3160 said, if you install Classic Shell, use the Win7 skin, and set it to skip the "Metro" screen at boot, it's just like running Win7 but there are some improvements under the hood. It's lighter for one thing and it boots up very fast. The boot time on the older machine is about 40-50% faster than XP had been.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on December 21, 2013, 06:04:31 AM
@bob3160,

I will install ClassicShell and I'll read through this topic.

Thank you.  :)

Yes, reading through this thread first, will answer many of your questions.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 21, 2013, 03:18:21 PM
I'm ready to submit my order for a Dell Computer with the Windows 8 OS and just wondering about how long it will take me to learn how to use it.  I'm going to use a keyboard and mouse because I don't want a touch screen.

Would appreciate any advice.

Thank you.
I was one of the ones really down on Win8 when it first came out. As time went on, I decided I wanted to try it so I installed it on my older laptop that had been running XP. It's a single core machine and Win8 is just as fast on it as XP was. As Bob3160 said, if you install Classic Shell, use the Win7 skin, and set it to skip the "Metro" screen at boot, it's just like running Win7 but there are some improvements under the hood. It's lighter for one thing and it boots up very fast. The boot time on the older machine is about 40-50% faster than XP had been.
It's nice to see that even the most outspoken critic has seen the light. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on December 24, 2013, 07:40:16 AM
If I don't upgrade to windows 8.1 do you think all the apps that will work on 8.1 will on windows 8.0?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on December 24, 2013, 12:23:52 PM
If I don't upgrade to windows 8.1 do you think all the apps that will work on 8.1 will on windows 8.0?
Who knows :-\  I wouldn't risk it though and why would you not want to update to 8.1 anyway as there are numerous fixes in the update.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 24, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
My windows 8 computer is going to be delivered today and even though I've read a lot of posts about this OS it in this thread I'm still kind of nervous  in regards to learing how to use it. 

Should I upgrade to windows 8.1?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on December 24, 2013, 01:28:40 PM
My windows 8 computer is going to be delivered today and even though I've read a lot of posts about this OS it in this thread I'm still kind of nervous  in regards to learing how to use it. 

Should I upgrade to windows 8.1?
Yes you should, upgrading fixes bugs and adds new features, no different to when you upgraded Win7 to Win7 SP1.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 24, 2013, 02:07:31 PM
@craigb,

How do I upgrade?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 24, 2013, 02:18:17 PM
You must install the updates and then there is an upgrade option in the Windows Store.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on December 24, 2013, 02:26:10 PM
As Steven said do all the windows updates, when completed go to the "Store" and the option to upgrade will be presented, start the upgrade and find yourself something to do for 3 hours while it does it's thing :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 24, 2013, 02:32:07 PM
I've been doing seaches about Windows 8.1 and so many places show that it's full of glitches.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on December 24, 2013, 02:36:54 PM
I've been doing seaches about Windows 8.1 and so many places show that it's full of glitches.
Works fine on all the upgrades I've done, if you search hard enough you'll be able to find glitches in everything.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 24, 2013, 04:25:42 PM
Think I'll stay with Windows 8 and once I've fully learned how to use it I might upgrade.  If I don't like it can I downgrade back to Windows 7?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Secondmineboy on December 24, 2013, 09:09:49 PM
Yep. Thats possible.

But you need to be careful with the Secure Boot.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 24, 2013, 09:18:48 PM
Yep. Thats possible.

But you need to be careful with the Secure Boot.

What's the Secure Boot?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on December 24, 2013, 10:09:59 PM
8.1 is not "full of glitches". It works as good or better than 8 and has some nice changes and enhancements. It is worth the upgrade, especially since it's free.

Secure boot is a new feature in Windows 8 computers that hampers the installation of any other OS but Windows 8. It can be gotten around.

If you install Classic Shell and use the Win7 skin, you will almost never notice the difference. So there really should be no reason to want to revert back. One thing you may have to do is change the settings in Internet Explorer to always use the desktop version instead of defaulting to the new full screen Windows app version that I personally do not like at all. Of course if you use another browser, that is not an issue.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 24, 2013, 10:15:50 PM
@Dch47

Thanks for the info.  Guess I will upgrade after my neighbor hooks the new PC up.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on December 25, 2013, 05:20:02 AM
Thanks for helping just 1 more question.. If I start the download can I turn off the gateway pc then pick up where it left off at?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 25, 2013, 01:37:29 PM
Thanks for helping just 1 more question.. If I start the download can I turn off the gateway pc then pick up where it left off at?
Considering the fact that you're downloading a large ISO file, probably not a good idea.  :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on December 26, 2013, 01:28:14 AM
Thanks for helping just 1 more question.. If I start the download can I turn off the gateway pc then pick up where it left off at?
Considering the fact that you're downloading a large ISO file, probably not a good idea.  :)
Ugh, at an internet speed of up to 1MBPS the windows 8 download would probably take 2 - 3 days .-.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 26, 2013, 03:12:49 PM
I have another question.  When my neighbor hooks my new PC up and transfers all of my programs from this Windows 7 will Avast still work.  Since it comes pre-installed with McAfee I would like to know for sure how to uninstall it.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on December 26, 2013, 03:22:20 PM
I have another question.  When my neighbor hooks my new PC up and transfers all of my programs from this Windows 7 will Avast still work.  Since it comes pre-installed with McAfee I would like to know for sure how to uninstall it.

Thank you.
McAfee removal tool can be found here http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?lc=1033&id=TS101331

Preferably you would be better to install programs from scratch, documents and data if fine to transfer but programs is another whole can of worms.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: midnight on December 26, 2013, 03:32:40 PM
@craigb...........Thank you.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 26, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
@-midnight
May I suggest that you start your own topic so that we can help you with your personal change over questions
and not take this Topic off course.
Thanks.

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on December 26, 2013, 03:48:06 PM
@craigb...........Thank you.
No problem :)

As Bod said it is probably better to start your own topic when next needing some information or instructions about these matters, one off questions are fine but these things tend to drag out which is why they are better in your own separate thread.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on December 30, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
If Gateway site recommends me to remove my intel driver for my computer before updating to windows 8.1 would I have to or would just updating to windows 8.1 without removing it be fine? Just wanting to see what you guys think before I do the update to win 8.1
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 30, 2013, 11:25:12 PM
If Gateway site recommends me to remove my intel driver for my computer before updating to windows 8.1 would I have to or would just updating to windows 8.1 without removing it be fine? Just wanting to see what you guys think before I do the update to win 8.1
Are they offering an alternative or an updated driver ???
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on December 30, 2013, 11:26:59 PM
If Gateway site recommends me to remove my intel driver for my computer before updating to windows 8.1 would I have to or would just updating to windows 8.1 without removing it be fine? Just wanting to see what you guys think before I do the update to win 8.1
Are they offering an alternative or an updated driver ???
They give a link to the driver downloads page and I checked it and it has the intel driver. I just worried I have bad experience from my old computer when removing and updating drivers
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on December 30, 2013, 11:48:38 PM
If Gateway site recommends me to remove my intel driver for my computer before updating to windows 8.1 would I have to or would just updating to windows 8.1 without removing it be fine? Just wanting to see what you guys think before I do the update to win 8.1
Are they offering an alternative or an updated driver ???
They give a link to the driver downloads page and I checked it and it has the intel driver. I just worried I have bad experience from my old computer when removing and updating graphics driver
Here is my recommendation:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=9671.msg1018447#msg1018447 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=9671.msg1018447#msg1018447)
Decline the toolbar installation request and uncheck the advanced system care installation request.
This program has never given me a problem with driver updates that don't work.
A follow up to my suggestion:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=111724.msg1042894#msg1042894 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=111724.msg1042894#msg1042894)
(Hurry it's only good today!)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on December 31, 2013, 07:12:24 AM
If Gateway site recommends me to remove my intel driver for my computer before updating to windows 8.1 would I have to or would just updating to windows 8.1 without removing it be fine? Just wanting to see what you guys think before I do the update to win 8.1
Is it the graphics driver? Win 8.1 will most likely install a working driver during the update. You then should be able to update it if needed after the Windows update is done. I would do as Gateway suggests.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on January 01, 2014, 12:06:06 AM
If Gateway site recommends me to remove my intel driver for my computer before updating to windows 8.1 would I have to or would just updating to windows 8.1 without removing it be fine? Just wanting to see what you guys think before I do the update to win 8.1
Is it the graphics driver? Win 8.1 will most likely install a working driver during the update. You then should be able to update it if needed after the Windows update is done. I would do as Gateway suggests.
Do you think it would hurt anything to keep it installed during the update though? Yes It is the Intel Hd Graphics VGA Driver.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on January 01, 2014, 01:10:57 AM
If Gateway site recommends me to remove my intel driver for my computer before updating to windows 8.1 would I have to or would just updating to windows 8.1 without removing it be fine? Just wanting to see what you guys think before I do the update to win 8.1
Is it the graphics driver? Win 8.1 will most likely install a working driver during the update. You then should be able to update it if needed after the Windows update is done. I would do as Gateway suggests.
Do you think it would hurt anything to keep it installed during the update though? Yes It is the Intel Hd Graphics VGA Driver.

Generally it is advised to first remove the current graphics driver before installing another. But how much harm it might do is not really easy to predict.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 01, 2014, 01:12:02 AM
If Gateway site recommends me to remove my intel driver for my computer before updating to windows 8.1 would I have to or would just updating to windows 8.1 without removing it be fine? Just wanting to see what you guys think before I do the update to win 8.1
Is it the graphics driver? Win 8.1 will most likely install a working driver during the update. You then should be able to update it if needed after the Windows update is done. I would do as Gateway suggests.
Do you think it would hurt anything to keep it installed during the update though? Yes It is the Intel Hd Graphics VGA Driver.
It is quite possible that you'll have a problem with the update if your current driver isn't compatible or supported in Windows 8.1.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 12, 2014, 03:30:18 PM

(http://thewindowsclub.thewindowsclubco.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Ultimate-Windows-Tweaker-3-for-Windows-8.jpg)
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-3-windows-8 (http://www.thewindowsclub.com/ultimate-windows-tweaker-3-windows-8)
Works equally well on Windows 8.1

Features:

Easy to use simple user interface

Tool tips offer you guidance as to what the tweak does.
Offers accessible buttons to create a system restore point and restore default values
Tiny tool, super lightweight at just around 340 KB
Power-packed with 170+ meaningful tweaks
Portable tweaker. Does not require to be installed. To uninstall it simply delete its program folder
Does not contain any adware, nor does it push crapware; and we promise not to, ever!
Report Bugs by simply using the button in the About tab. Else visit this page (http://www.thewindowsclub.com/submit-bugs-ultimate-windows-tweaker).
Support available at TWC Forum (http://forum.thewindowsclub.com/twc-windows-freeware/35684-support-ultimate-windows-tweaker-3-0-a.html).
Checks for available update. Click the button in the About tab to do so.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on January 15, 2014, 03:43:15 PM
If your still using the Windows 8.1 Public Preview, it ends Today.
(http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/b7314d24-16f5-486d-9c93-33000110eba5_10.jpg)
You must upgrade to the final version or, you're going to have a problem.
More information available at:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/update-from-preview (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/update-from-preview)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on February 07, 2014, 05:42:17 AM
Do any of you happen to know how long should Auto Maintenance take on windows 8?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on February 07, 2014, 05:48:51 AM
Do any of you happen to know how long should Auto Maintenance take on windows 8?

I've had it last as long as 1hr 15mins
Obviously, would depend on how much data and how much maintenance needed :)

Edit: I believe most of that time is the Defrag. and usually not that long
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on February 07, 2014, 06:17:40 AM
Do any of you happen to know how long should Auto Maintenance take on windows 8?

I've had it last as long as 1hr 15mins
Obviously, would depend on how much data and how much maintenance needed :)

Edit: I believe most of that time is the Defrag. and usually not that long
Does it have to redo the tasks if I shutdown my computer and restart it another day?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on February 07, 2014, 06:27:29 AM
Do any of you happen to know how long should Auto Maintenance take on windows 8?

I've had it last as long as 1hr 15mins
Obviously, would depend on how much data and how much maintenance needed :)

Edit: I believe most of that time is the Defrag. and usually not that long
Does it have to redo the tasks if I shutdown my computer and restart it another day?

Well 'Auto Maintenance' will start up automatically when appropriate/after you boot up BUT  whether or not it begins all over again, I'm not sure. I've never thought about it.  :-\
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 11, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1392128534580-53758.png) (http://youtu.be/m5h9Kug5HTI?hd=1)

     http://youtu.be/m5h9Kug5HTI?hd=1 (http://youtu.be/m5h9Kug5HTI?hd=1)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on February 24, 2014, 03:46:40 PM
Windows 8.1 Update 1 What to expect. (http://www.askvg.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-windows-8-1-update-1/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images5/Windows_Blue_Logo.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: essexboy on February 24, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
Quote
It'll reduce hardware requirements so that lower cost hardware can also be used in Windows 8.1 systems.
Trying to catch the XP users ?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on February 24, 2014, 04:56:17 PM
Windows 8.1 Update 1 What to expect. (http://www.askvg.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-windows-8-1-update-1/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images5/Windows_Blue_Logo.png)
They did one of the things I said in another forum that they should have done from the beginning.

Quote
##Ability to detect the hardware and enable appropriate user interface. Metro UI for touch enabled devices and Desktop for PCs.

If Windows 8 would have done that from the get-go, it would have had a much wider acceptance.

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on February 24, 2014, 05:11:02 PM
Quote
It'll reduce hardware requirements so that lower cost hardware can also be used in Windows 8.1 systems.
Trying to catch the XP users ?

All very interesting, are they starting to listen after getting panned - win8.x, still under 10% OS market share and even worse than the initial Vista take up and we know what a lemon that was. Though I don't know if it was ever a hardware issue stopping many XP users from upgrading. Businesses are still heavy XP users and for them it is all productivity/retraining staff.

I see more pushing/revelations for windows 9.0 (2015 possibly even this year) in the media now than windows 8.2 update.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 12, 2014, 07:11:38 PM
Another Start Menu Button for Windows 8 etc (Till Microsoft makes it official)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1399914271653-95765.png)
Start Menu Reviver 2 offers a better program manager for Windows 8.1 (http://www.reviversoft.com/start-menu-reviver/)
(I'm currently using this on a Windows 8.1.1 32 bit Dell Laptop)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on May 12, 2014, 07:55:36 PM
That one is way too busy for my tastes.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on May 20, 2014, 05:57:16 AM
I got a error that said "Display driver igfx stopped responding and has successfully recovered." I tried to update the graphics driver like gateway recommended me to do. But apparantly the driver says "System don't meet minimum requirements" Anybody know if this happens to a lot of people and if there is a way to fix it?

Here is my computer specs if it helps
Gateway NE56R41u
Processor: Intel B960
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics
RAM: 4GB DDR3
HDD: 500GB HDD
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 20, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
Have you tried Driver Booster Free (http://www.iobit.com/driver-booster.php) ???
Did you read the min. requirements and does your system meet those requirements ???
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Coolmario88 on May 20, 2014, 04:15:42 PM
Have you tried Driver Booster Free (http://www.iobit.com/driver-booster.php) ???
Did you read the min. requirements and does your system meet those requirements ???
Its on the Gateway Drivers Download Page for this laptop. I'm getting tech support from Gateway/Acer now.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Dch48 on May 20, 2014, 08:17:35 PM
Have you tried the driver here?
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Intel%c2%ae+Pentium%c2%ae+Processors+with+Intel%c2%ae+HD+Graphics&ProdId=3524&LineId=1101&FamilyId=39
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 21, 2014, 04:11:16 PM

(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1405951849974-45800.png) Windows 8.1 update 2 said to arrive on August 12th (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-81-update-2-said-to-arrive-on-august-12th)
Since I'll be in NY at that time, I'll probably need to depend on someone else
to tell me if it's finally returning an actual start menu to Windows 8.

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on July 24, 2014, 03:41:33 PM

(http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/07/0721-primary-100354529-large.jpg)
Another "Old Timer" who has finally seen the light of day. (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2450068/buying-a-new-pc-dont-worry-windows-8-is-just-fine.html#tk.nl_pwr):)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 12, 2014, 03:46:11 PM
Changes are coming to Windows 9 (Threshold) (http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-threshold-build-9834-screenshots-leak-shows-a-lot-of-new-features)
(Beta should be available to some on 9/30/2014)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1410529524701-24915.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 13, 2014, 02:21:11 AM

Start Menu Reviver (http://www.reviversoft.com/start-menu-reviver/)
Another Windows 8 Start Menu Replacement
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1410565961333-37845.png)
This one is fully touch screen enhanced but works equally well with your mouse.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1410567139792-21004.png)
If I had a touch screen, I night work with this for a while.
Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/) is still my choice. Once Windows 9 comes out, Microsoft will be putting
their own actual start menu back.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2014, 02:14:24 PM

Microsoft exec: 'Windows 9' to be announced next week (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2687396/microsoft-exec-windows-9-to-be-announced-next-week.html)
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1411647077770-558.png)

A personal Observation:
A new release of the Windows operating system has always brought with it a new learning curve.
Some folks have forgotten that. Some have also forgotten that learning new things is what keeps your mind active and your body young. Something that's more important for some of us than others.
For those of us that embraced and have worked with Windows 8 since it's early beta days, we always knew it was a much better operating system that the prior ones.
It's faster, more secure and, more compatible with older software than it's predecessors.
For those that missed the traditional start menu, there had always been a third party program that fixed that oversight from Microsoft. Adding  ClassicShell  http://www.classicshell.net/ (http://www.classicshell.net/)
 to the mix, gave you back the start button and added the ability to bypass the metro apps screen entirely.
We are about to embark on the next release of Windows. This new version will also have a slight learning curve and offer quite a few enhancement.
Change is something that can be embraced or hated but almost always improves what's come before.
Bob G.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2014, 03:57:02 PM
Personal Observation:
If windows 8 was so damn good why is MS essentially abandoning it - well its market share is pretty poor and people aren't buying it.

Why are MS rushing windows 9 out the door - because they don't want this OS upgrade to be associated with the failed venture windows 8, win8.1, win8.1 update1.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2014, 04:08:32 PM
Personal Observation:
If windows 8 was so damn good why is MS essentially abandoning it - well its market share is pretty poor and people aren't buying it.

Why are MS rushing windows 9 out the door - because they don't want this OS upgrade to be associated with the failed venture windows 8, win8.1, win8.1 update1.
We all see things in our own light. You have your opinion, I have mine. I'm sure however that I've used Windows 8 at lot longer than you. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on September 25, 2014, 04:13:15 PM
Personal Observation:
If windows 8 was so damn good why is MS essentially abandoning it - well its market share is pretty poor and people aren't buying it.

Why are MS rushing windows 9 out the door - because they don't want this OS upgrade to be associated with the failed venture windows 8, win8.1, win8.1 update1.
We all see things in our own light. You have your opinion, I have mine. I'm sure however that I've used Windows 8 at lot longer than you. :)

And at this rate I will have never used windows 8 - only time will tell if I will be using win9 or win7 Pro - I don't rush into anything ;D
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Charyb-0 on September 25, 2014, 05:30:12 PM
I didn't care much for Windows 8 mostly because of the learning curve and the lack of start button. I had a hard time finding things that were simple to navigate to in Windows 7. Once Windows 8.1 was released, I really started liking it. Both my laptops have 8.1 on them and I use a Windows 8.1 phone. I can find no reason why I would want to go back to Windows 7.


I wonder what the upgrade plan from 8.1 to 9.0 will be?

Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
The only sure thing so far is that you will get your start menu back.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on September 25, 2014, 05:50:04 PM
The only sure thing so far is that you will get your start menu back.
With the right panel (the most important part) turned into a garish mess of tiles instead of shortcuts to the things you really use the most like your Favorites, Control Panel, Pictures, Documents, This PC, Downloads, etc. No thanks here. I'll stick with Classic Shell even if I do get Windows 9 which will only happen if it's a free upgrade to Windows 8.1 users.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Charyb-0 on September 25, 2014, 05:52:59 PM
The only sure thing so far is that you will get your start menu back.
By upgrade, I meant are W8.1 users going to have to pay to upgrade to 9.0 or will it be a free upgrade?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on September 25, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
If the resource and stability improvements are as great as they were when changing from win7 to win8 then I'll upgrade to 9 :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
The only sure thing so far is that you will get your start menu back.
By upgrade, I meant are W8.1 users going to have to pay to upgrade to 9.0 or will it be a free upgrade?
here's the rumor mill:
http://www.itpro.co.uk/operating-systems/22988/windows-9-to-be-free-for-windows-81-users (http://www.itpro.co.uk/operating-systems/22988/windows-9-to-be-free-for-windows-81-users)
Nothing definite from Microsoft at this point.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Charyb-0 on September 25, 2014, 10:51:38 PM
I'm all for a free upgrade. I just purchased both of these computers less than a year ago so I am not hip on spending any more money on an operating. I suppose I would have to see the entire list of upgrades first.


Thanks for the info, Bob.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2014, 11:02:12 PM
You're welcome. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 29, 2014, 02:00:31 PM
Free Windows 9 Upgrades for Windows 8 Users? (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2469398,00.asp)
(http://www9.pcmag.com/media/images/355088-new-microsoft-logo.jpg?thumb=y)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on September 29, 2014, 07:49:03 PM
Nice to see free for me. ;D
and maybe xp users, that would be something. ???
I imagine W9 will be here quite shortly??
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 29, 2014, 08:45:54 PM
Nice to see free for me. ;D
and maybe xp users, that would be something. ???
I imagine W9 will be here quite shortly??
Rumer still has it pegged for some on 9/30/2014.
If it happens, I'll be very busy tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: schmidthouse on September 29, 2014, 09:52:11 PM
Nice to see free for me. ;D
and maybe xp users, that would be something. ???
I imagine W9 will be here quite shortly??
Rumer still has it pegged for some on 9/30/2014.
If it happens, I'll be very busy tomorrow. :)

Thanks Bob
Where's the  most likely place to find it....MS sight??
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 29, 2014, 09:54:57 PM
Nice to see free for me. ;D
and maybe xp users, that would be something. ???
I imagine W9 will be here quite shortly??
Rumer still has it pegged for some on 9/30/2014.
If it happens, I'll be very busy tomorrow. :)

Thanks Bob
Where's the  most likely place to find it....MS sight??
For me it will be Technet. It's not going to be available to everyone on 9/30.
Till we get to that date, there's nothing certain at all. These are educated speculations.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 29, 2014, 10:38:55 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412023023738-18525.png) (http://youtu.be/HyqXr6dvtME)
        http://youtu.be/HyqXr6dvtME (http://youtu.be/HyqXr6dvtME)


Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 30, 2014, 05:09:39 PM

(http://media.askvg.com/articles/images5/New_Start_Menu_with_Live_Tiles.png)
All About Windows 9 or Windows Threshold (http://www.askvg.com/all-about-windows-9-or-windows-threshold/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AskVG+%28AskVG%29)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: Gopher John on September 30, 2014, 10:48:23 PM
Today Microsoft announced Windows 10.  Evidently, there will be no version 9.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/microsoft-offers-first-peek-of-windows-10-2014-09-30-15103594 (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/microsoft-offers-first-peek-of-windows-10-2014-09-30-15103594)

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2689409/microsoft-unveils-spiritual-successor-to-windows-7-by-going-to-10.html (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2689409/microsoft-unveils-spiritual-successor-to-windows-7-by-going-to-10.html)

Quote
Microsoft executives said Windows 10 would launch sometime after next spring, but they declined to discuss other details, including timing or prices.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on September 30, 2014, 11:54:19 PM

(http://icdn2.digitaltrends.com/image/windows10oneproduct-640x0.png)

Microsoft will make a technical preview of Windows 10 available for laptops and desktops starting on October 1, 2014.

To gain access, users will have to sign up through the new Windows Insider Program (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-coming-soon).
The program will allows users to provide feedback to Microsoft on the OS.

Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-10-features-news-changes-release-date/9/#ixzz3Eq211bjz (http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-10-features-news-changes-release-date/9/#ixzz3Eq211bjz)

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Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on October 01, 2014, 06:51:55 PM
I think it's a little stupid of them to skip the 9 designation. What are they going to do? Tell us that 8.1 is really 9?
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: DavidR on October 01, 2014, 07:06:10 PM
I think it's a little stupid of them to skip the 9 designation. What are they going to do? Tell us that 8.1 is really 9?

There has been much talk of this in the media, a lot of it considers the public will be even more convinced that win8 was a commercial disaster and they want to get as far away as they can. Windows 9 really would have been the better choice.

People know what happened with win8, so no more updates for it be that 8.2 or 8.1 update 2 - move on to windows 9 - I guess they don't think it is far enough away from win8.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on October 01, 2014, 07:16:59 PM
Since they pretty much confirmed that 10 will be a free upgrade for 8 and 8.1 users, I'll get it but I really have no use for most of the hyped features. I have never used the snap feature, I don't need multiple desktops, I still like the Win 7 Start menu better, don't need the task view, certainly don't need any touch-centric stuff, and couldn't care less about Cortana.

The presentation seemed to be aimed at people who use their computers for business and work. Mine is only used for high end 3D games, email, forums, social media, and basic web searches and browsing. It's a form of entertainment . Just like my TV. Heck, I very rarely even open up Word or Notepad. I'd still be perfectly happy with Windows 98SE  ;D.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 01, 2014, 07:27:04 PM
 Dch48 why don't you just go back to Win7 and then you wont have to complain and nit pick over what Win10 will or wont be ;)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on October 01, 2014, 07:39:10 PM
No, as I said, I'll most likely have 10 but won't use a lot of the stuff and might even still use Classic Shell for my Start Menu. I like 8.1 with Classic Shell and definitely feel it is better than 7 under the hood so 10 most likely will be too. I'm just saying that the presentation was not very impressive to me and if the upgrade was not free, I would pass.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: CraigB on October 01, 2014, 08:01:11 PM
There will no doubt be a million changes before 10 is ready for the general public so it's to early to speculate yet on how or what functionality it will or wont have but now that a start menu is going to be included there could be a box to tick or a script to run to have it exactly like you want it.

It's early days yet :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on October 01, 2014, 08:46:36 PM
I just read that you can customize the right panel of 10's Start Menu with the same shortcuts as in Win 7 instead of or along with the tiles. that sounds great so I'm going to try it on a separate partition on my laptop. It has more than enough power and RAM to run it.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 01, 2014, 10:15:13 PM

(http://icdn2.digitaltrends.com/image/windows10oneproduct-640x0.png)
Download Windows 10 Technical Preview (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-download)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on October 03, 2014, 12:30:57 AM
Okay I installed the Win 10 preview on the laptop in a dual boot setup with 7. I have to say I like it. The new start Menu pretty much takes away the need for Classic Shell. There are some things I'd like to see changed though. There is no option to add browser favorites to the Start Menu and that's what I use the most. You can add them in 7, 8, and 8.1 but they've been omitted in 10. I'm talking about right clicking on the taskbar and then Properties/Start Menu/Customize.

The biggest problem I had was that the wireless networking driver that Win 10 installed did not work right. I kept getting limited connections. After a few Google searches I found the right driver and instructions on how to make it work. The card is the Broadcom 4313GN and it seems that it had the same issues in Win 8 and 8.1.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 03, 2014, 03:12:08 PM
I'm also dual booting with Windows 8.1 as the default boot and Windows 10 as the alternate.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412341901414-94776.png)


Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on October 04, 2014, 12:53:45 AM
I edited my Win 8.1 desktop wallpaper with Irfanview.

(http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k370/Dch48/10desktop_zps33e49f41.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 04, 2014, 01:02:03 AM
So Malwarebytes is working ?   Come on avast!, I hate using Deffender. :)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on October 04, 2014, 01:15:15 AM
So Malwarebytes is working ?   Come on avast!, I hate using Deffender. :)
Yes Malwarebytes works fine. I haven't tried the free Bitdefender AV yet so I'm still using Defender as well.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 04, 2014, 02:51:06 AM
Malwarebytes installed and, as you said, it's working flawlessly.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412387589910-88231.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 04, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Check for updates.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412425969306-17008.png)
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on October 04, 2014, 02:02:11 PM
The Windows 10 background has invaded my Windows 8 partition ???
Strange since they are on separate partitions. When I booted this morning,
I noticed the desktop background in Windows 8.1 had changed to the Windows 10 image.
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: REDACTED on October 04, 2014, 07:35:00 PM
The Windows 10 background has invaded my Windows 8 partition ???
Strange since they are on separate partitions. When I booted this morning,
I noticed the desktop background in Windows 8.1 had changed to the Windows 10 image.
The same thing happened to me. It's because of the syncing through OneDrive.  Go to PC settings and then to OneDrive and change the sync settings by unchecking syncing of desktop things .
Title: Re: Windows8 - 8.1 - Windows Threshold Tips Questions and Solutions
Post by: bob3160 on May 06, 2015, 05:28:41 PM
Another useful shortcut Key combination:
             (http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1430925676545-20539.png)