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Title: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 27, 2011, 06:44:48 AM
Two days ago Avast triwd to update but there was an error. I rebooted my computer to scan on startup and after that no programs work. IE Chrome FF and Avast will not stRt up. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: mikaelrask on September 27, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
welcome to the forum.

i suggest you try to repair avast as a first option.

go start/ controlpanel/ add/remove programs, scroll down to avast and hit the remove button.

a new screen should come up, from there hit the repair option.

if this should not work.

try a installation from scratch.

good luck   
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: CraigB on September 27, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
Two days ago Avast triwd to update but there was an error. I rebooted my computer to scan on startup and after that no programs work. IE Chrome FF and Avast will not stRt up. Any ideas?
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Did you notice if there was any detections while running boot scan?
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: essexboy on September 27, 2011, 11:44:18 AM
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85400.msg692242#msg692242
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 27, 2011, 03:52:31 PM
Two days ago Avast triwd to update but there was an error. I rebooted my computer to scan on startup and after that no programs work. IE Chrome FF and Avast will not stRt up. Any ideas?
[/quote ]
Did you notice if there was any detections while running boot scan?
Detected two or three things. I rebooted anr scanned. When finish, computer did not work properly anymore.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 27, 2011, 03:53:16 PM
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85400.msg692242#msg692242
I can not download anything as not browsing works.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: AdrianH on September 27, 2011, 04:41:10 PM
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85400.msg692242#msg692242
I can not download anything as not browsing works.

Try this :  Start Menu > Command (run as admin) > type in SFC /SCANNOW and run that which should deal with the corrupted files.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: CraigB on September 27, 2011, 06:21:16 PM
Two days ago Avast triwd to update but there was an error. I rebooted my computer to scan on startup and after that no programs work. IE Chrome FF and Avast will not stRt up. Any ideas?
[/quote ]
Did you notice if there was any detections while running boot scan?
Detected two or three things. I rebooted anr scanned. When finish, computer did not work properly anymore.
As AdrianH posted above please run the SFC repair, Start Menu > accessories > Command Prompt - right click (run as admin) > type or copy in  SFC /SCANNOW  and click enter, this should fix your problem.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 03:57:56 AM
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=85400.msg692242#msg692242
I can not download anything as not browsing works.

Try this :  Start Menu > Command (run as admin) > type in SFC /SCANNOW and run that which should deal with the corrupted files.
I think this solved everything. Everything seems to work fine now. Thanks alot. You provided better service than thw Avast employees themselves...
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 03:59:14 AM
Two days ago Avast triwd to update but there was an error. I rebooted my computer to scan on startup and after that no programs work. IE Chrome FF and Avast will not stRt up. Any ideas?
[/quote ]
Did you notice if there was any detections while running boot scan?
Detected two or three things. I rebooted anr scanned. When finish, computer did not work properly anymore.
As AdrianH posted above please run the SFC repair, Start Menu > accessories > Command Prompt - right click (run as admin) > type or copy in  SFC /SCANNOW  and click enter, this should fix your problem.
Thank you for helping me. Really appreciated it.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: CraigB on September 28, 2011, 06:36:53 AM
Your welcome  :)
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 07:35:51 AM
Your welcome  :)
Unfortunately now my computer goes to a black acreen after the windows logo.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: CraigB on September 28, 2011, 07:56:28 AM
Are you able to get to safe mode ? if so then open up computer and right click on C drive\properties\tools check drive for errors and tick both boxes then click start and you will then be asked to reboot, try that and let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 07:59:16 AM
Are you able to get to safe mode ? if so then open up computer and right click on C drive\properties\tools check drive for errors and tick both boxes then click start and you will then be asked to reboot, try that and let us know how it goes.
Safe mode does not work. No repair option. And system recoveries does not work.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: CraigB on September 28, 2011, 08:53:54 AM
Are you able to get to safe mode ? if so then open up computer and right click on C drive\properties\tools check drive for errors and tick both boxes then click start and you will then be asked to reboot, try that and let us know how it goes.
Safe mode does not work. No repair option. And system recoveries does not work.
I would normally refer this to essexboy now but he's away till the 6th of october so hopefully someone with a bit more knowledge can shed some light on this for you.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 02:07:07 PM
Are you able to get to safe mode ? if so then open up computer and right click on C drive\properties\tools check drive for errors and tick both boxes then click start and you will then be asked to reboot, try that and let us know how it goes.
Safe mode does not work. No repair option. And system recoveries does not work.
I would normally refer this to essexboy now but he's away till the 6th of october so hopefully someone with a bit more knowledge can shed some light on this for you.
I hope someone replies soon. I can not wait for essexboy as I need my computer asap. Know any other forums that may help me?
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: CraigB on September 28, 2011, 02:19:50 PM
If you cant wait for someone here maybe ask in the virus and worms section of the forum with a link to this thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=4.0 or you can try http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: essexboy on September 28, 2011, 06:30:03 PM
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Malware-Spyware-Cleaning-Guide-t2852.html
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 07:04:58 PM
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Malware-Spyware-Cleaning-Guide-t2852.html
I dont think its malware vut I will try them.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: CraigB on September 28, 2011, 07:10:17 PM
Even if it's not malware the team over there will be able to get you sorted and your system at least up and running, might also pay to include a link to this thread for them to follow up what has been going on with your system.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 07:12:17 PM
Turns out I am required to dowload something and I cant get pass the black screen.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on September 28, 2011, 10:32:31 PM
Sounds like your bootloader is corrupted. If your OS is WIN 7, you can try the repair option from the installation CD. Do research this first before trying.

Is the screen totally black or are text messages being displayed once you attempt to boot into Windows? If messages are shown, write them down and post to this thread.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 10:37:49 PM
Sounds like your bootloader is corrupted. If your OS is WIN 7, you can try the repair option from the installation CD. Do research this first before trying.

Is the screen totally black or are text messages being displayed once you attempt to boot into Windows? If messages are shown, write them down and post to this thread.
Unfortunately, I do not havemy cd with me and a need a solution that can fix it asap because I require my computer for school.

It boots up as a normal comp butafter logo, it goes to black screen with no words but a mouse pointer.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on September 28, 2011, 11:15:58 PM
What ver. of Windows do you have?
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 28, 2011, 11:33:45 PM
What ver. of Windows do you have?
Windows 7 home premium x64
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on September 29, 2011, 12:37:19 AM
Are you sure Safe mode does not work? Tap the F8 key as the PC boots.

If you can get into Safe mode, then check your graphics drivers in Device Manager. Many black screens in Win 7 are causes by corrupted graphics drivers.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 29, 2011, 01:03:52 AM
Safe mode doesnt work...

Goes after windows logo, it goes black screen.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on September 29, 2011, 01:52:41 AM
Sounds to me your only option left is to try a repair from a WIN 7 Premium x64 installation disk. Try to see if someone has their disk at your school. Make sure you know your product key before doing a repair since it might ask for the product key.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 29, 2011, 02:28:24 AM
Sounds to me your only option left is to try a repair from a WIN 7 Premium x64 installation disk. Try to see if someone has their disk at your school. Make sure you know your product key before doing a repair since it might ask for the product key.
I have the key. I will ask around. Would it be better to ask for upgrade or full install?
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: CraigB on September 29, 2011, 06:15:13 AM
If you using an upgrade disc i dont think there was a repair function with that, you need the full disc of the version that is already installed on your system or a system repair disc that hopefully you created when you first got your system.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 29, 2011, 06:29:52 AM
If you using an upgrade disc i dont think there was a repair function with that, you need the full disc of the version that is already installed on your system or a system repair disc that hopefully you created when you first got your system.
Okay. I wull try that out eventually.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on September 30, 2011, 01:18:43 AM
Make sure when you do select the repair option from the installation disk, you first try the option to repair your start up files. I have run that a couple of times sucessfully when I borked my boot loader files when I was fooling around with my dual boot XP and WIN 7 setup.

Do make it a point in the future to create a WIN 7 recovery disk and keep it always with your PC for instances like this. 
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 30, 2011, 01:33:37 AM
Make sure when you do select the repair option from the installation disk, you first try the option to repair your start up files. I have run that a couple of times sucessfully when I borked my boot loader files when I was fooling around with my dual boot XP and WIN 7 setup.

Do make it a point in the future to create a WIN 7 recovery disk and keep it always with your PC for instances like this. 
I will keep that in mind in the future. If my HDD is not fails its scan, does that mean I should still repair?
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on September 30, 2011, 02:14:17 AM
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If my HDD is not fails its scan

Are you now running HHD diagnostics using a bootable CD? What is the result? Are you getting SMART errors?

HDD errors are an entire different issue.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 30, 2011, 02:53:36 AM
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If my HDD is not fails its scan

Are you now running HHD diagnostics using a bootable CD? What is the result? Are you getting SMART errors?

HDD errors are an entire different issue.
I go into the BIOS and I run the HDD diagnostics test and it always fails.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on September 30, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
It still goes to the black screen even when I am using the qindows disk. It goes to either Safe mode or run normal options when first booted. After choosing, it goes to the windows logo and then a black screen with the mouse.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on October 01, 2011, 12:26:17 AM
I solved the last prob because my laptop had usb cd drive. But now there is no repair option available. So how should I procees?
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on October 01, 2011, 02:36:56 AM
Check this out: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD (http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD)

Do option 1 only! Note the text about you might have to run option 1 multiple times.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on October 01, 2011, 02:49:33 AM
Check this out: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD (http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD)

Do option 1 only! Note the text about you might have to run option 1 multiple times.
I tried that method a few times and still no repair option.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on October 01, 2011, 08:58:56 PM
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It still goes to the black screen even when I am using the qindows disk. It goes to either Safe mode or run normal options when first booted. After choosing, it goes to the windows logo and then a black screen with the mouse.

Originally you said you couldn't boot into safe mode. Later you said the above. If you can boot into safe mode, go into device manager and check out your graphics drivers. Personally I think that is your problem. You can always uninstall the existing graphics drivers and reboot. Win 7 should find drivers for your graphics drivers and reinstall them; at least the drivers that were current for the WIN 7 ver. you have installed. If that cures your normal boot problem, you can them install current drivers for your graphics card.

Another option is to try a system restore from an archive prior to when your problems started. Not always works and can make matters worse.

If the above don't work, I am out of suggestion other than take you PC to a pro for repair or reinstall WIN 7. If you reinstall Win 7, you can backup all your important files from safe mode prior to the reinstall.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on October 02, 2011, 02:39:29 AM
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It still goes to the black screen even when I am using the qindows disk. It goes to either Safe mode or run normal options when first booted. After choosing, it goes to the windows logo and then a black screen with the mouse.

Originally you said you couldn't boot into safe mode. Later you said the above. If you can boot into safe mode, go into device manager and check out your graphics drivers. Personally I think that is your problem. You can always uninstall the existing graphics drivers and reboot. Win 7 should find drivers for your graphics drivers and reinstall them; at least the drivers that were current for the WIN 7 ver. you have installed. If that cures your normal boot problem, you can them install current drivers for your graphics card.

Another option is to try a system restore from an archive prior to when your problems started. Not always works and can make matters worse.

If the above don't work, I am out of suggestion other than take you PC to a pro for repair or reinstall WIN 7. If you reinstall Win 7, you can backup all your important files from safe mode prior to the reinstall.
I never said safe mode works... if I did or there was a misunderstanding, I am sorry. But safe mode does not work... goes into black screen after winfows logo.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on October 02, 2011, 04:50:47 PM
Let's back up a bit.

First, you need to determine if your HDD is failing. I don't know what BIOS checks you are running. I have built multiple PCs over the years and the only BIOS option I am aware of is tuning off/on SMART checking. I do recollect a few BIOSes that display SMART status info. Is that what you are referring to?

The only approved way of determining HDD status is first determine who the HDD manufacture is. Next download the manufacturer bootable diagnostic CD .iso image and burn the .iso image using burning software capable of created a bootable CD e.g. Nero, Roxio, WIN 7's CD/DVD creator, etc.

Then boot from the CD ensuring your BIOS options are set to boot from CD/DVD drive first or press the appropriate select boot option key when the BIOS splash screen appears. Run a quick scan from the HDD diagnostic program. If no errors are found, then run a full scan. Note that a full scan on a large HDD could take many hours.

If no errors from the above steps are found, your HDD is not the problem. If your HDD is defective, you need to have it replaced and then reinstall WIN 7 since your don't have an image backup of your existing HDD. A repair shop might be able to recover your existing data but be prepared to pay a large sum of money for that effort. 
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on October 02, 2011, 06:37:21 PM
Well, in the bios there os a option to scan memory or hard disk. I presser hard disk and it failed the test.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: DonZ63 on October 02, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
I suspect the BIOS test you are performing is a SMART test. 

My expeience is that SMART checks from the BIOS are not always reliable. Best you run the HDD manufacturer disk diagnostics.

Again you need to get this resolved before you do anything else.
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: lhui on October 02, 2011, 11:08:47 PM
I suspect the BIOS test you are performing is a SMART test. 

My expeience is that SMART checks from the BIOS are not always reliable. Best you run the HDD manufacturer disk diagnostics.

Again you need to get this resolved before you do anything else.
How do I run the HDD diagnostic test?
Title: Re: Avast update error + computer not working
Post by: Grumpfuttock on October 03, 2011, 02:00:21 AM
For what it's worth...
I have been getting the same black screen and cursor that lhui describes on my Win 7 32bit PC ever since I upgraded to Avast 6 Internet Security some time ago. I have both a user account and admin account which are password protected. The black screen occurs after the login screen appears and I enter my password and then hit enter, it is as though something is interferring with the loading of the desktop. I have the boot time & PUP scan enabled.
If I wait approximately 20 seconds after the login screen appears until the hard disk activity starts decreasing, and then enter my password and hit enter, the system continues to load my desktop and all is well. With the boot time & PUP scan turned off, I don't need to wait until the hard disk activity decreases, I can just enter the password, hit enter and my desktop loads without a problem.
I am wondering if lhui has the boot time & PUP scan enabled and if maybe it is that that is causing the black screen and cursor, as in my case.