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Title: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 25, 2011, 10:52:27 PM
I am running Firefox 7.0.1 with no update in sight, and for some reason possibly connected with a cleanup by CCleaner this afternoon, I am getting newpages displayed as URL links etc. (See screenshot attached). Perhaps I wiped Index.dat files without realising what it meant!! (If that is it, how do I restore them? - I tried one System Restore, and it made no difference.)

I looked under Firefox Help tab and selected Troubleshooting, and saw under Graphics "Blocked for your graphics driver version. Try updating your graphics driver to version 10.6 or newer."

I do not know if that is relevant - taken from columns of info about my settings that I did not understand.

The pages in question work fine in Explorer, but I have so many vital Bookmark etc on Firefox and know my way around it, I really do not want to have to migrate evrything to IE (which may be possible).
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 25, 2011, 11:45:05 PM
No problem with FF 7.0.1, Downloaded ccleaner earlier and installed this afternoon and ran.

I don't like having the tabs on top as I feel they look dis-connected from the page, so mine are on the bottom.

I have lots of bookmarks on the toolbar and none show as URLs.

Do you have any add-ons that do anything with either formatting or bookmarks, etc. ?
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 12:03:30 AM
Third try at replying (it didn't like the Word doc from Troubleshooting). Here is a screenshot of my Add-Ons.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 12:18:24 AM
Don't see anything obvious, though I don't know how coolpreviews works if that migh be involved.

You could try running firefox in safe mode, not the windows safe mode but the running without add-ons.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 26, 2011, 12:20:10 AM
Hmmm...
We don't see what is going on below the scroll bar..!??
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 12:24:55 AM
Presumably because that is where the incompatible disabled add-ons are, which shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 26, 2011, 12:32:38 AM
Well, still not sure what the OP wants to tell/ask us...?? ;)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 12:37:50 AM
Look at the first image, the bookmarks toolbar (when displayed) is displaying URL rather than the page title.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 26, 2011, 12:59:32 AM
Look at the first image, the bookmarks toolbar (when displayed) is displaying URL rather than the page title.

FF setting issue, imo. Or maybe a bad plug-in.
The site works for me... (See screenshot)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 01:07:16 AM
You aren't showing the effected area, which is the bookmarks toolbar area as shown in the OP's first image.

I have already suggested an add-on, but there are so few installed that I don't believe it is that, which is why I also suggested safe mode firefox.

I have been digging and googling and I couldn't find anything on the firefox bookmarks toolbar settings, certainly nothing about changing the displayed text/URL.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 26, 2011, 01:13:18 AM
You aren't showing the effected area, which is the bookmarks toolbar area as shown in the OP's first image.

I guess he was talking about the main page. ;)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 06:55:40 AM
Screenshot of 2nd section of Addons page
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 07:06:39 AM
Now the Forum's Reply system is screwing up!

The second Screenshot was "too large".

I don't like IE and I am having to find my URLs on Firefoy them paste the mover to IE.

I tried FF Safemode and disabling CoolPrev - no use
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 08:06:47 AM
DavidR

I have a nasty feeling that the CCleaner yesterday that I ran wiped something vital off FF.

Is there any way I can uninstall and reinstall FF keeping my Bookmarks? That may do the trick.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Gargamel360 on October 26, 2011, 08:10:11 AM
This might help you with the bookmarks problem, at least>>http://download.xmarks.com/download/all
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 08:24:32 AM
Gargamel360

Thanks. I may do that.

The fact that IE still works suggests that I probably have not damaged my entire system.

So  deinstalling  FF (using CCleaner!!) and reinstalling it using xmarks may be the only answer. Actually the deinstall of FF may give the option of keeping Bookmarks and Addons.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 08:37:47 AM
Gargamel,

I downloaded Xmarks, and Add-ons says that it is Synching successfully - does that mean that it will automaticall save Bookmarks etc. Or do I have to instruct it?
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Gargamel360 on October 26, 2011, 09:23:29 AM
Gargamel,
I downloaded Xmarks, and Add-ons says that it is Synching successfully - does that mean that it will automaticall save Bookmarks etc. Or do I have to instruct it?
Not exactly sure, I only played with it once around a year ago, so I have forgotten the finer points of its use. 

But that seems about right, from the little I do remember, once it finishes synching, the bookmarks should be saved.

But rummage around its interface/help file, just to be 100% sure (because I am not) ;)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 10:04:58 AM
Thanks for you frankness - and helpfulness. Most of you guys are born rummagers and see it as a challenge (thankfully) but I have no patience and go for the cautious line of asking  ???

There is always this lille beast that your colleagues gave me - MozBackup - should be just the thing :)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Gargamel360 on October 26, 2011, 10:16:43 AM
Thanks for you frankness - and helpfulness.
NP, glad to help. ;)

There is always this lille beast that your colleagues gave me - MozBackup - should be just the thing :)
That might work just as well for what you want also.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 11:49:11 AM
Well I tried Mozbackup too. Except that I didn't need to apply the Backup, because after I deinstalled Firefox and installed the same version afresh, it simply took over all my bookmarks etc. automatically and the pages appear exactly as in the first Screenshot. Could it be found under Firefox - View - Encodings?

There MUST be some setting in Firefox that has been tampered with, otherwise IE wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 02:44:52 PM
For the future, you can also export your bookmarks from firefox.

If you click the Show All Bookmarks in the Bookmarks menu entry, you will see an Import and Backup option. That allows you to Export them, see image, once you have installed firefox again you can use the same feature to Import bookmarks.

I do this periodically as part of my system maintenance, though I also Use the FEBEs add-on to back-up lots of firefox stuff.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 26, 2011, 02:48:36 PM
For the future, you can also export your bookmarks from firefox.

Usually not needed, as Firefox keeps it's settings even when uninstalling it.
At least, as long as no 3rd party tool is involved.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 02:54:14 PM
Asyn

"Firefox keeps it's settings even when uninstalling " - if you instruct it to do so.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 26, 2011, 02:56:09 PM
Asyn

"Firefox keeps it's settings even when uninstalling " - if you instruct it to do so.

No need to instruct it. ;)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 02:57:03 PM
For the future, you can also export your bookmarks from firefox.

Usually not needed, as Firefox keeps it's settings even when uninstalling it.
At least, as long as no 3rd party tool is involved.

I have always been a belt and braces kind of guy, multiple back-up options.

OT - I'm on-line a bit later today as I had to go out and find a battery for my UPS (Uninteruptable Power Supply) as I wouldn't risk a power outage without it as a back-up ;D
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 03:03:12 PM
DavidR

Thanks for the screenshot.

"For the future, you can also export your bookmarks from firefox ".
Would the bookmarks still remain after exporting to html, in case I fail to instal them on IE.?
I do not particularly like IE and can't see any "controls" as you can with FF. And therefore would not know how to import them there.

What about Chrome? Never seen or tested it. Is it more like FF?
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 26, 2011, 03:03:17 PM
I have always been a belt and braces kind of guy, multiple back-up options.

It doesn't hurt...! ;)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 08:51:58 PM
DavidR

Meanwhile I have been muddling through with FF and IE both open. Just as an example: for some reason (I have made no further adjustments since my last post)  a news page opens perfectly now in FF but the "forms" do not e.g. a Disqus type forum form, so I would have to take the URL to horrible IE to open it.

If I do reinstall FF I will do it via MozBackup or FEBE but after checking "uninstall personal settings" - followed by a clean install in case it was one of extensions interfering.

Another possibility is that SuperAntiSpyware scans have been removing vital cookies - or interfering with Java.

Is Chrome any good? Does it compare with FF?
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 09:02:57 PM
I don't let SAS scan for cookies a total waste of time. The main issue with cookies are third party cookies, those that aren't for a site that you are viewing, they can track your browser usage and activity for that site other site (shopping, etc.). Depending on your browser (?) you should be able to block third party cookies, you can also set your browser to clear your cookies when you close it.

Since I use Firefox 6.x, I also have the cookie monster add-on and by default that only allows session cookies; they are only valid for the time you have your browser is running. The cookie monster add-on also allows you to accept cookies (normal time limited ones) for a site, like forum.avast.com as cookies are used so you don't have to logon all the time, etc.

All of the above helps remove the need for you to manually manage cookies.

- See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie).

Even so if cookies were deleted, session cookies would be recreated on entry to the site.

I never have got on with Chrome, didn't like the interface, nor its lack of configurability (compared to FF) and its lessor range of odd-ons.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 09:15:08 PM
Thanks DavidR.

You must mean CookieMonster 1.1.0 which "by default that only allows session cookies". The CM 2.1 just deletes the lot at the end of each session if you ask it to.

I am grateful for all this as it will be added to my "clean" reinstall of FF as soon as I am brave enough ???
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 09:31:26 PM
Yes I mean CM 1.1 that is the one I use and is much more flexible.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 26, 2011, 09:38:31 PM
Thank you also for letting me know what I suspected about Chrome. IE is too intrusive.

Will have to take the plunge with a fresh FF install.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 26, 2011, 11:05:57 PM
You're welcome, but that is my impression, you might find it different. I haven't tried Chrome for a while now, but to my mind they keep trying to sell it as being the fastest browser.

For me speed can only be second to my usability of and requirements of a browser.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: bob3160 on October 27, 2011, 12:31:04 AM
I personally haven't used anything except Chrome for over a year.
Browsers are a personal choice and it usually depends on what you
get used too.
I switched from FF and have no regrets but, that's me.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 27, 2011, 08:44:21 AM
All,

Thanks as always for your helpfulness and patience.

DavidR

I re-installed FF and used its own function for transferring Bookmarks successfully. The Layout is different because I have more or less left it as FF suggests (with less on the upper bars).

I also have CookieMonster 1.1 (screenshot attached) in default mode to replace my compulsive daily use of SAS for managing cookies - is it worth checking "Block 3rd Party Cookies"?

I guess some of us are creatures of habit and it was quite a shock for this one to have to depend on IE for over a day without FF to get my stuff done. What a relief -

Thanks all  :)

I'll do one more SAS sweep to see what IE has left on the system.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 27, 2011, 11:45:47 AM
I would recommend that you block 3rd party cookies, they are cookies which aren't directly from the site you are visiting. I don't have use 2nd level domain names enabled.

Hint: For your screenshots, don't capture the whole screen, just the active window or enough to display the relevant information. This keeps the file size down and opens the image when clicked within the opst not in a new window. To capture the active window - when the window that you want to capture is the active one, press the Alt key plus the Prt Scr (print screen) key together. That captures the active window (not the whole screen) and copies it into the clipboard.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 27, 2011, 12:05:05 PM
David R

Double thanks.

CookieMonster - useful tip, reducing clutter.

Re Screenshots - v-important to me (hardly a whizz), e.g. teleworking with an employer in distant Hamburg with whom I have hardly conversed and (incredibly) do not have a competetent IT staff. My work depends on the software that they have licensed me to use (Wordfast - I think we have had this discussion) - so the need for sending accurate screenshots.

 :)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 27, 2011, 12:28:15 PM
If screenshots are very important, I can't live without them, especially useful on the forums. So long ago I bought an image capture application SnagIt (now on v10) and that is very flexible and saves huge amounts of time.

There are free versions of image capture software, but I have never found one as good as SnagIt.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 27, 2011, 02:00:03 PM
I am making a file of this tips, DavidR!

 ;)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 27, 2011, 02:01:10 PM
I forgot to add - of course I used the nearest option to hand - Paint.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 27, 2011, 02:17:06 PM
There are free versions of image capture software, but I have never found one as good as SnagIt.

This one is quite good, not as powerful as SnagIt, but it's free. ;)
http://getgreenshot.org/

@HPY: German link: http://getgreenshot.org/de/
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: bob3160 on October 27, 2011, 02:35:46 PM
I forgot to add - of course I used the nearest option to hand - Paint.
HPY,
You might enjoy the simplistic way in which you can capture and post your screenshots
with the following:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=28748.msg622912#msg622912 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=28748.msg622912#msg622912)
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 27, 2011, 03:06:46 PM
I forgot to add - of course I used the nearest option to hand - Paint.

Not ideal if as you say "Re Screenshots - v-important to me" you want something that makes it as easy as possible, not having to copy to the clipboard and then paste to paint and save as an image file. SnagIt makes this a breeze and has great annotation and effects tools, video capture of how to carry out a function, etc. Much easier in many cases to having to explain it.

Whilst the free tools are adequate for most people, if you regularly use screenshots the cost is far outweighed by the time saved.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: YoKenny on October 27, 2011, 03:14:34 PM
I forgot to add - of course I used the nearest option to hand - Paint.
In Vista you can use the Snipping Tool.
See:
How to use the Windows Snipping Tool
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/how-to-use-the-windows-snipping-tool
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: HPY on October 29, 2011, 02:08:10 PM
David R re CookieMonster

Thanks for the tip. I have run several SAS sweeps since I installed CM in default setting as shown in my screenshot, and not one cookie was found. SAS usually picked up ca. 5 each time, nearly always the same ones (2nd party?)

All,

Thanks for the screenshot info.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: DavidR on October 29, 2011, 04:12:29 PM
No problem, glad I could help.
Title: Re: Mozilla Firefox
Post by: Asyn on October 29, 2011, 05:04:47 PM
All,
Thanks for the screenshot info.

You're welcome..!