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Title: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Hellion on November 07, 2011, 08:37:33 AM
Hi All,

Firefox 8 will be releasing November 8th - http://lifehacker.com/5856826/firefox-8-now-available

Just a quick Question...

Will Webrep be compatible with FF8?
Will Scriptshield carry on working like it did in FF7?
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: marrtin on November 07, 2011, 09:31:39 AM
Currently, WebRep is not compatible with FF8, but Script Shield appears to be working fine.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Hellion on November 07, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
Hi Marrtin,

Did you go ahead and do the upgrade already?

Any Add-on issues?

Also I think the scriptshield is much more important than webrep.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Asyn on November 07, 2011, 11:04:50 AM
1. Will Webrep be compatible with FF8?
2. Will Scriptshield carry on working like it did in FF7?

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: RejZoR on November 07, 2011, 11:18:43 AM
WebRep works fine in FF8.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Hellion on November 07, 2011, 03:02:38 PM
Hi,

Thanks for all the responses.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Asyn on November 07, 2011, 03:03:48 PM
You're welcome..!
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: antrox on November 07, 2011, 04:20:59 PM
1. Will Webrep be compatible with FF8?
2. Will Scriptshield carry on working like it did in FF7?

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
Confirm!
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Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 07, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Hot stuff this Firefox 8 ;D

Found this when looking for some what's new in firefox8, e.g. what's the point in having it. In all honesty I have seen little or no differences from updating to firefox6&7.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Tetsuo on November 07, 2011, 09:28:10 PM
what's the point in having it. In all honesty I have seen little or no differences from updating to firefox6&7.

At this point I guess it's the same as replacing iPhone 4 with a new iPhone 4S  ;D
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 07, 2011, 10:13:45 PM
That's the problem when you accelerate the pace of update to the level of Chrome, the difference between these close versions isn't that great. So in essence everything on a user perspective seems the same.

Whilst they all purport to increase speed, etc. the margins really aren't that huge so as to be immediately noticeable. We will have to see how this pans out.

The major difference, between firefox and the iPhone 4S is this new release won't draining my UPS backup battery ;D
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Lisandro on November 08, 2011, 01:28:00 AM
Each day, each Firefox version ;D
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 08, 2011, 01:59:23 AM
Not quite up to the Chrome version update rate, you need a stop watch to keep up with their updates.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Nesivos on November 08, 2011, 03:17:27 AM
Currently, WebRep is not compatible with FF8, but Script Shield appears to be working fine.

My computers are using FF 8.0 B6 at least for the next few hours.

WebRep works just fine on them. :)

By the way just my experience:

I have been on the Firefox Beta Channel for months.  Will probably go almost directly from 8.0 B6 to 9.0 B1.   When FF went from v6 to v7 FF 8.0 B1 was available about 1 or 2 days after Firefox 7 was released.

I have found the Firefox Beta's to be very stable and from what I understand more secure than the released version number that they follow.

Its actually become a joke in my home.  Do I eat dinner first on Friday night or do I update Firefox first on Friday night? ;D  Depends how hungry I am :)
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: dagrev on November 08, 2011, 03:39:53 AM
In the typing of this post, Chrome has issued 4 version updates. ;D
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: FlyingRobot on November 08, 2011, 05:02:57 AM

My computers are using FF 8.0 B6 at least for the next few hours.

WebRep works just fine on them. :)

If WebRep is [uninstalled then] installed via the avast interface, is Firefox 8 keeping it disabled until the user approves the add-on?
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Tetsuo on November 08, 2011, 01:09:48 PM
If WebRep is [uninstalled then] installed via the avast interface, is Firefox 8 keeping it disabled until the user approves the add-on?

I think so,  but a confirmation from the beta-users is needed.

Version 8.0

- Add-ons installed by third-party programs are now disabled by default
- Added a one-time add-on selection dialog to manage previously installed add-ons


In the typing of this post, Chrome has issued 4 version updates. ;D


what is really odd is that a lot of computer savvy users do enjoy this "permanent beta status" and from time to time they even ask for a similar update cycle in AV software (e.g two weeks after a new version of Avast! has been released they start asking for the next one).
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: MikeBCda on November 08, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
Interesting that the Thunderbird update came through (or at least the notification of it) before Firefox this time around.  Naturally enough, I got the Firefox one just as I opened this thread to read it.

No problems with extensions or add-ons this time around, not surprising if there's that little difference between 7 and 8.  Don't personally know about WebRep, since (as I'd mentioned elsewhere) I'd already disabled that anyway ages ago as useless until it becomes a proper security tool.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Nesivos on November 09, 2011, 05:07:42 AM
Interesting that the Thunderbird update came through (or at least the notification of it) before Firefox this time around.  Naturally enough, I got the Firefox one just as I opened this thread to read it.

No problems with extensions or add-ons this time around, not surprising if there's that little difference between 7 and 8.  Don't personally know about WebRep, since (as I'd mentioned elsewhere) I'd already disabled that anyway ages ago as useless until it becomes a proper security tool.

I wouldn't call this "very little difference between 7 and 8", but that's just me.

Quote
What’s New in Firefox

The latest version of Firefox has the following changes:

    Add-ons installed by third party programs are now disabled by default
    Added a one-time add-on selection dialog to manage previously installed add-ons
    Added Twitter to the search bar for select locales. Additional locale support will be added in the future
    Added a preference to load tabs on demand, improving start-up time when windows are restored
    Improved performance and memory handling when using <audio> and <video> elements
    Added CORS support for cross-domain textures in WebGL
    Added support for HTML5 context menus
    Added support for insertAdjacentHTML
    Improved CSS hyphen support for many languages
    Improved WebSocket support
    Fixed several stability issues
    Fixed several security issues

Please see the complete list of changes in this version. Web and extension developers should also view the curated list of platform changes. You may also be interested in the list of changes in the previous version.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/8.0/releasenotes/ (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/8.0/releasenotes/)
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2011, 12:24:55 PM
<snip>
No problems with extensions or add-ons this time around, not surprising if there's that little difference between 7 and 8.  Don't personally know about WebRep, since (as I'd mentioned elsewhere) I'd already disabled that anyway ages ago as useless until it becomes a proper security tool.

The webrep falls under third party add-ons and would be covered by the new options:
- Add-ons installed by third party programs are now disabled by default
- Added a one-time add-on selection dialog to manage previously installed add-ons

So for those that are using the webrep the selection dialog is how it would be enabled.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: jadinolf on November 09, 2011, 04:56:17 PM
WebRep works fine in FF8.

In mine also. ???
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2011, 05:04:30 PM
But only if you checked it as an option, by default it would be disabled as a 3rd party add-on.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: jadinolf on November 09, 2011, 05:08:25 PM
But only if you checked it as an option, by default it would be disabled as a 3rd party add-on.

So, it's OK?
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Lisandro on November 09, 2011, 05:10:36 PM
Working here, no problems at all.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: JuninhoSlo on November 09, 2011, 06:29:51 PM
Working here, no problems at all.

+1
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: FlyingRobot on November 09, 2011, 06:59:13 PM
FWIW, the reason I asked whether a new installation of WebRep is handled properly (whether it is, as one would expect from the Firefox 8 release notes, disabled by default until approved through Firefox) is because some software developers are not happy about features which impede the silent install of addons.  I've even seen some discuss possible ways to bypass this Firefox 8 feature.  If the software developer is developing software that will only be installed on their own machines (corporate environment for example) that is one thing.  However, some of the folks discussing bypass options were developing third-party applications.  That, combined with the theoretical possibility of some limitation or bug in the Firefox 8 implementation, makes me think it would be wise to double check the behavior when third-party software installs an addon.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Gopher John on November 09, 2011, 08:52:08 PM
But only if you checked it as an option, by default it would be disabled as a 3rd party add-on.

So, it's OK?

Yes, it's fine.  If you didn't checkmark WebRep on restart of Firefox 8 after updating, it will be disabled.  Then, if you want WebRep, all you have to do is open Firefox Add-ons and enable it.

What I find odd is in Firefox, Add-ons include extensions, themes, and plugins.  However, I was never asked about my plugins.  In the one Firefox profile that has another theme, it was disabled and the Firefox 8 theme became default.  There are threads on mozillazine about the theme issue.

Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Lisandro on November 09, 2011, 09:27:36 PM
If you didn't checkmark WebRep on restart of Firefox 8 after updating, it will be disabled.  Then, if you want WebRep, all you have to do is open Firefox Add-ons and enable it.
Strange, mine got checked and enabled all the time, before and after the update... ???

In the one Firefox profile that has another theme, it was disabled and the Firefox 8 theme became default. 
Yes, that happened.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2011, 10:06:15 PM
I think on all the recent firefox updates, certainly for 6&7 on my system it has defaulted (no pun intended) to the firefox default theme.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Gopher John on November 10, 2011, 03:06:17 AM
I think on all the recent firefox updates, certainly for 6&7 on my system it has defaulted (no pun intended) to the firefox default theme.

Firefox 8 is the first time for me with a theme change.  I added the other theme shortly after Firefox 4 came out.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Tetsuo on November 10, 2011, 09:54:42 AM
I think on all the recent firefox updates, certainly for 6&7 on my system it has defaulted (no pun intended) to the firefox default theme.

Version 8 has also removed my pinned App Tabs (i.e. Google Translate), by the way.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 10, 2011, 11:49:13 AM
Strange it didn't remove any of mine (I have several, stop forum spam, ebay, MyYahoo, IP checking and a local file), just that the interface looked butt ugly in the default theme. Why oh why do they have such an ugly default interface.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Tetsuo on November 10, 2011, 12:58:14 PM
Strange it didn't remove any of mine

Uhm, perhaps it was a coincidence (in my case).

Quote
Why oh why do they have such an ugly default interface.

c'mon, it's not that ugly!  ;D

Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 10, 2011, 02:28:43 PM
I hope the smiley is an indication you are joking and it is butt ugly, looks like windows 95
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 10, 2011, 02:53:44 PM
Judge for yourself if it isn't butt ugly when compared to an average/half decent theme ;D
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Tetsuo on November 10, 2011, 03:11:24 PM
Yeah, actually it sucks  ;D - though I'm still using the default one since some minor issues I had in the past with other themes.
 
However, in my defense I must point out that I use the default minimal view of FF: only address bar and nothing else - yeah it looks exactly like windows 95 now ;D
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: MikeBCda on November 10, 2011, 11:15:51 PM
About the only change I can see (other than the new ability to untick hardware acceleration) is that a number of my bookmarks have now lost their favicons.  And something I've never seen before, the missing ones have been replaced by tiny dotted image-placeholders.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 11, 2011, 12:21:41 AM
You must be using the default theme that uses the dotted square, use any half decent theme and it is likely to have a neater/nicer icon for it. I lost lots of my favicons, but it doesn't look so bad replaced by a nice little heart.

There it a tool to recover bookmark favicons, but for the life of me I can't remember it.

So a little search returns this for IE, http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/06/12/how-to-restore-all-your-ie-bookmark-favicons-at-once/ (http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/06/12/how-to-restore-all-your-ie-bookmark-favicons-at-once/) there is also a faviconize tab firefox addon. I'm in the process of getting them now.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Gopher John on November 11, 2011, 12:54:56 AM
CheckPlaces https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/checkplaces/ (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/checkplaces/) has the ability to retrieve favicon.ico during it's checks for whether the link target actually exists on the internet.  It can check for duplicate bookmarks, etc.  Set it's options for the job you want it to do.  There are also other extensions may work.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 11, 2011, 01:29:28 AM
Yes I have found that and spent the last 20 minutes running it and filtering out the duds in my bookmarks. I abandoned the faviconize tab firefox addon, incomprehensible.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Gopher John on November 11, 2011, 02:41:09 AM
The dotted square is the new default icon when a web page doesn't have a favicon.ico  If you have the Stylish extension, there are two options listed http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=11448443#p11448443 (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=11448443#p11448443).
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Nesivos on November 11, 2011, 03:09:40 AM
Judge for yourself if it isn't butt ugly when compared to an average/half decent theme ;D

This is what my FF8 Persona and Toolbar looks like with the default upgrade

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LYfsAFdoBx0/TryDOmH3vkI/AAAAAAAAAGs/39EVx2G5sxY/s1600/Firefox+8+Toolbar+Image.gif)
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: MikeBCda on November 12, 2011, 01:14:13 AM
OK, thanks, I've now added (and run) CheckPlaces, and while it didn't seem to have any luck finding missing favicons, it did find that a couple of bookmarks I haven't used in ages are now dead links.

(Edit, forgot to include in this posting) I'm not clear what their definition of "Questionable" links is, of which it found quite a few.  It seems to somehow relate to redirects, so possibly my bookmarks just aren't up to date for those sites.  Fix-all for this tab didn't seem to do anything, but maybe it did the corrections quite quickly so I didn't notice ... I'll try another scan later on to see if I still get them.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: DavidR on November 12, 2011, 03:31:43 AM
It did a pretty good job of finding/getting mine it did take a fairly long time as I had 1607 bookmarks at the start. It found lots of old dead links. Yes it would be nice if they had some definitions of what the sections meant.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: MikeBCda on November 12, 2011, 10:40:25 PM
I tried again later and this time all the Questionable ones were gone.  So I guess "Fix all" really did work quite quickly, at least on my broadband.

One setting I changed on the second run was to remove the check for duplicates.  I do use the Bookmarks toolbar and find it quite handy for places I visit frequently, and leave a copy in the main bookmarks menu in case one or the other gets corrupted. And naturally, CheckPlaces insisted on "warning" me about the (deliberate) duplicates.

(Edit) Apologies to those who feel we wandered too far off the main topic with this sub-discussion. I for one am satisfied with the result and done with it.
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Para-Noid on November 12, 2011, 10:54:51 PM
For what it's worth. I have kept the FF v3.5 UI.

@ DavidR The FF UI that you posted isn't really all that ugly.  :)
         
Title: Re: Firefox 8, it's that time again
Post by: Asyn on November 12, 2011, 11:28:31 PM
(Edit) Apologies to those who feel we wandered too far off the main topic with this sub-discussion. I for one am satisfied with the result and done with it.

:)