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Title: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: KNRover on November 27, 2011, 09:01:40 PM
I've used Avast for over 2 years now. Until Nov. 14, I never got the message "Some files could not be scanned" at the end of a scan. Since that day, I now get that message every time. When I look at the scan log, all the unscanned files are in C:\System VolumeInformation\restore; i.e., they'resystem restore files. I realize it doesn't mean they're infected; it just means Windows denies Avast's access to them.

I've always had system restore files (never shut that function off). So why beginning 2 weeks ago did Windows suddenly decide to lock these files, and is there as way to unlock them so Avast! can scan them?
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Lisandro on November 27, 2011, 09:06:10 PM
Run a boot time scanning and avast will have full access to that files.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Pondus on November 27, 2011, 09:11:07 PM
Run a boot time scanning and avast will have full access to that files.
are you sure...they are still password protected...or   ???
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Lisandro on November 27, 2011, 09:14:33 PM
are you sure...they are still password protected...or   ???
You're right. But password protected? Isn't it strange?
I was thinking on denied access and not password protected. Sorry.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Pondus on November 27, 2011, 09:26:23 PM
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You're right. But password protected? Isn't it strange?
it depends what they are for....something that may be difficult to say when they are in system restor
But why worry...as you know it does not mean they are infected
if you ever have to use that restore point...then they will be scanned when unpacked
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Lisandro on November 27, 2011, 10:20:34 PM
if you ever have to use that restore point...then they will be scanned when unpacked
Is avast loaded when Windows unpack them?
I think avast will only detect that later...
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Pondus on November 27, 2011, 10:51:39 PM
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I think avast will only detect that later..
detect what.....password protected does not mean infected
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: ady4um on November 27, 2011, 10:55:44 PM
If your system is working correctly (so you currently don't need old restore points), then disable System Restore, then reboot, re-enable System Restore, then reboot again. This will delete ALL System Restore Points.

You may want to manually create a new Restore Point at this point, since all the old ones are gone.

If the same message from Avast reappears in the future, please come back to report it.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: KNRover on November 28, 2011, 01:43:17 PM
Well, per Tech's suggestion, I ran a boot-time scan, and sure enough, ALL files were scanned; no "Some files could not be scanned" message. But after that, I immediately ran a Quick Scan with Windows fully loaded...and the restore files again could not be scanned. The specific message under the Status column in the log is "Error: Archive is password protected (42056)".

I realize this is a nuisance, not a serious issue, but I'm suspicious when a program behaves one way for almost 2 years, then suddenly starts behaving differently on a consistent basis. I will try zapping all the restore points, create a new one, then run another scan to see if it scans the new RP or continues to skip it. 
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Asyn on November 28, 2011, 01:45:05 PM
Anyway, it's nothing to worry about...!!! ;)
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Asyn on November 28, 2011, 02:19:24 PM
I realize this is a nuisance, not a serious issue, but I'm suspicious when a program behaves one way for almost 2 years, then suddenly starts behaving differently on a consistent basis.

Well, avast! did behave like this before, but lately Adobe started to pw-protect it's updates, that's most probably the reason you didn't encounter this before. ;)
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: KNRover on November 28, 2011, 02:55:42 PM
OK, I turned System Restore (SR) off, which zapped all the restore points, rebooted, created a restore point, then ran a scan. Same result; every file in the System VolumeInformation/_restore subfolder is password protected. Now that there's only one restore point in it, most of the files are .png (portable network graphics) or .js (JavaScript) files.

That these files are suddenly not scanable is not a big deal, but it signals that something in my system or the Avast software changed 2 weeks ago, and that's what bothers me.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: Asyn on November 28, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
So how can we help you..??
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: KNRover on November 28, 2011, 03:56:17 PM
Don't think you can. I was looking for an answer to the question, "What caused Avast to suddenly lose access to the system restore files." The one suggestion to delete all the SR points, create one new point, then try a scan did not give Avast access to the files. If this forum had a "Solved" button for threads, I would click it, since I think I've gotten about as much information as I'm going to.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: ady4um on November 28, 2011, 04:28:02 PM
Maybe you missed something that was posted. Your first suspicion is that Avast is behaving differently. Maybe.

But maybe some other software is now behaving differently (Adobe password - protecting files) and that's the reason. System Restore would be building the backups from the same files tahn before, but now those files are password protected, and Avast can't do anything about it.

This is one possibility, already mentioned above. I'm just expanding the explanation.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: KNRover on November 28, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
Don't know what Adobe would have to do with putting a password on archived system restore files.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: DavidR on November 28, 2011, 09:29:29 PM
If the original files were password protected, then as an when those are included in a restore point they too would be password protected.

So if you update or uninstall or delete a file/application and that had elements which were password protected that password protected would be in the restore point (that is the whole point of system restore to make copied of changed/removed certain files, etc.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: KNRover on November 28, 2011, 10:08:48 PM
I found the answer to the issue at techguy.org, the tech support forum I use 90% of the time when I have a technical issue. Turns out something (??) changed the permissions for the System Volume Information folder, removing me as having permission to open it. I had to use Safe Mode to access the Security tab under Folder Options to change the permissions to "Everyone", but that solved the problem; Avast! now scans that folder and I get no "Some files could not be scanned" messages.

Thanks to all who contributed to this now solved issue.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: ady4um on November 28, 2011, 10:54:27 PM
That may "solve" the question (if you think you really solved something), but giving permissions to "Everyone" to the System Volume Information folder is not a good idea.

Why do you have the impression (or do you think) that these permissions were granted for "Everyone" before this "something" changed them? I mean, are you sure those were the security properties before this "problem" showed up?
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: KNRover on November 28, 2011, 11:06:00 PM
Have no idea what the security was on that folder for the 3+ years I've had the computer... and frankly don't care. I'm the only person who uses the computer, so giving "everyone" access to the System Volume Information folder means that I'm the only one who will access it.
Title: Re: Some files are password protected and cannot be scanned
Post by: ady4um on November 28, 2011, 11:18:43 PM
so giving "everyone" access to the System Volume Information folder means that I'm the only one who will access it.

Wrong. "Everyone" means any type of user, even "guest". Instead of "Everyone", you could call it "Anyone, no matter what".

System Information Volume folders are very restricted. Only the real "Administrator" account (not the group) and above can even *read* it. Lower level users that those don't even have reading permissions. So giving "full" permissions to "Everyone" is not something I would recommend (maybe some techguy would; it's up to you to follow it or not).

Here is my point: you think you "solved" something (that was not originally really a problem) by lowering your security barriers.

Is like saying: "I don't like that have to turn the knob to open my front door, so I'll just leave it open 24/7".