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Title: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 14, 2011, 06:42:18 AM
today i will be testing avast in my vm
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Lisandro on December 14, 2011, 12:19:08 PM
Good. Post back the results.
What will you test specifically?
Which is the guest OS you're using?
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: true indian on December 14, 2011, 02:02:23 PM
Can u upload a video on youtube and PM me a link to it...
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on December 14, 2011, 02:50:09 PM
Can u upload a video on youtube and PM me a link to it...
If it's posted on YouTube, why should he send you a PM why not simply post
the link ion here ???
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 14, 2011, 05:53:49 PM
i don't have tech to make a video
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: YoKenny on December 14, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
As you do not indicate what operating system you are using in your signature you may want to read this:
How can I capture a video with Windows 7
http://superuser.com/questions/65233/how-can-i-capture-a-video-with-windows-7
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 15, 2011, 05:25:34 AM
here
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: true indian on December 15, 2011, 05:28:05 AM
so finished testing?
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Gargamel360 on December 15, 2011, 06:24:21 AM
........ :-X
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 15, 2011, 08:12:24 AM
yes and hitman pro found mostly temps files
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: true indian on December 15, 2011, 09:51:53 AM
u should first clean temp files and then do a scan so avast performed very well?
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 15, 2011, 06:11:22 PM
u should first clean temp files and then do a scan so avast performed very well?

i did a scan with avast 1st than i did a boot scan with avast
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Asyn on December 15, 2011, 06:15:45 PM
........ :-X

+1 ;D
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 15, 2011, 06:29:05 PM
but im not finish testing with avast i will test avast with a rootkit and ransomware 
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: YoKenny on December 15, 2011, 10:17:32 PM
here
You are running Windows 9 with IE7!  :o
Quote
Windows 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 7.0.6001.18000

You should update to IE9:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/internet-explorer/downloads/ie-9/worldwide-languages

You do not indicate if you are running Windows 7 64bit or 32bit.  ???
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 17, 2011, 12:33:13 AM
here
You are running Windows 9 with IE7!  :o
Quote
Windows 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 7.0.6001.18000

You should update to IE9:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/internet-explorer/downloads/ie-9/worldwide-languages

You do not indicate if you are running Windows 7 64bit or 32bit.  ???

avast was tested in vm
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on December 17, 2011, 02:26:54 AM
avast! doesn't need any testing. It's being used by millions of people daily.
I'm just one of them.  :)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 19, 2011, 01:07:13 AM
btw avast fail on a Ransom trojan when the behavior blocker is on auto-decide (default)

when the behavior blocker is set on to ask it finds it.

mind can someone explain to me why is the avast behavior blocker is on auto-decide (default)       
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: true indian on December 19, 2011, 01:18:39 PM
send the malware to avast through the chest
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: DavidR on December 19, 2011, 01:36:49 PM
btw avast fail on a Ransom trojan when the behavior blocker is on auto-decide (default)

when the behavior blocker is set on to ask it finds it.

mind can someone explain to me why is the avast behavior blocker is on auto-decide (default)       

For the majority of users, Ask is too intrusive and worse still they may not be able to make the decision on what to do. Now this could also let things through the door that may otherwise have been locked out.

It is difficult to strike a balance between too strict and not strict enough if set to Auto. Or if set to Ask as the default setting without being too intrusive for the user. Either of these conditions could result in either an FP or something being let in, it isn't easy.

There are many that would like to see the Behavior Shield beefed up on its rule set to catch more, even if it meant an increase in FPs (which could be corrected). The idea for this is that when set to Auto by default the user doesn't have to make the decision, but the protection is more robust, even if it could increase FPs.

However, there aren't many that are lobbying for the Behavior Shield to be set to Ask by default, it really would be too intrusive (I feel). The major point is that the settings are highly configurable for the individual user.
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 20, 2011, 12:42:56 AM
btw avast fail on a Ransom trojan when the behavior blocker is on auto-decide (default)

when the behavior blocker is set on to ask it finds it.

mind can someone explain to me why is the avast behavior blocker is on auto-decide (default)       

For the majority of users, Ask is too intrusive and worse still they may not be able to make the decision on what to do. Now this could also let things through the door that may otherwise have been locked out.

It is difficult to strike a balance between too strict and not strict enough if set to Auto. Or if set to Ask as the default setting without being too intrusive for the user. Either of these conditions could result in either an FP or something being let in, it isn't easy.

There are many that would like to see the Behavior Shield beefed up on its rule set to catch more, even if it meant an increase in FPs (which could be corrected). The idea for this is that when set to Auto by default the user doesn't have to make the decision, but the protection is more robust, even if it could increase FPs.

However, there aren't many that are lobbying for the Behavior Shield to be set to Ask by default, it really would be too intrusive (I feel). The major point is that the settings are highly configurable for the individual user.

however the behavior blocker when on auto-decide it has no rules that means a normal person thats using avast if they download a rootkit and the sandbox and Signatures does not finds it the pc can be rootkited   
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 20, 2011, 12:52:14 AM
so my opinion on avast. im have to say it fail. i mean it did a good job at stopping normal malware. but at nasty malware it fails.so avast improve your behavior blocker and set it on ask if you what to stop nasty malware
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on December 20, 2011, 01:13:52 AM
so my opinion on avast. im have to say it fail. i mean it did a good job at stopping normal malware. but at nasty malware it fails.so avast improve your behavior blocker and set it on ask if you what to stop nasty malware
Thanks for your advice but I think I'll stick with avast!
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: DavidR on December 20, 2011, 01:40:19 AM
<snip>
however the behavior blocker when on auto-decide it has no rules that means a normal person thats using avast if they download a rootkit and the sandbox and Signatures does not finds it the pc can be rootkited   

Of course it has rules (I have seen behavior shield alerts and in the forums), it is that they aren't overly aggressive.
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on December 20, 2011, 04:05:56 AM
<snip>
however the behavior blocker when on auto-decide it has no rules that means a normal person thats using avast if they download a rootkit and the sandbox and Signatures does not finds it the pc can be rootkited   

Of course it has rules (I have seen behavior shield alerts and in the forums), it is that they aren't overly aggressive.

where are the rules of the behavior blocker because i don't see it
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: true indian on December 20, 2011, 06:27:02 AM
Dont mind me commenting on this  ;)

By myself avast is awesome!

I agree they are heavily dependent on defination databases
but though they do a excellent job on 0-day and day to day stuff...

Agree the Behaviour shield needs some improvements...but we also have heuristics and code emulator  :) :)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: DavidR on December 20, 2011, 01:41:25 PM
<snip>
however the behavior blocker when on auto-decide it has no rules that means a normal person thats using avast if they download a rootkit and the sandbox and Signatures does not finds it the pc can be rootkited   

Of course it has rules (I have seen behavior shield alerts and in the forums), it is that they aren't overly aggressive.

where are the rules of the behavior blocker because i don't see it

You don't see the virus signatures either but they are there.

They are embedded (probably within the VPS also) and are based around the three settings in the Behavior Shield, Expert Settings, Main Settings.
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on February 09, 2012, 06:26:21 PM
here
You are running Windows 9 with IE7!  :o
Quote
Windows 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 7.0.6001.18000

You should update to IE9:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/internet-explorer/downloads/ie-9/worldwide-languages

You do not indicate if you are running Windows 7 64bit or 32bit.  ???

btw avast 7 fail
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2012, 06:34:59 PM
It's nice to be nice but not always...


The only one failing is nsm0220
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Hermite15 on February 09, 2012, 06:38:56 PM
........ :-X

+1 ;D

+2  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Hermite15 on February 09, 2012, 06:42:29 PM
hey nsn0220, I think I got one, you mind analyzing it for me ??? ... see if Avast detects it :)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: nsm0220 on February 09, 2012, 09:06:39 PM
my opinion on avast it fail badly.a piece of malware cause the vm to bsod, claims it found malware but didn't do anything about,the sandbox is not working and the behavior blocker is not working
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: essexboy on February 09, 2012, 10:30:32 PM
RelevantKnowledge is a PUP
MarketScore is a PUP
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: !Donovan on February 10, 2012, 12:23:54 AM
RelevantKnowledge is adware not a pup

Get your facts right.

See their site: http://www.relevantknowledge.com/about.aspx
***********************************************************************************
In order to participate in this research community, we ask that you install software on your computer. This software consists of research software, which tracks the community member’s Internet activity, allowing RelevantKnowledge to develop an understanding of how they and the members of their household use the Internet. In addition, RelevantKnowledge may occasionally invite its members to participate in online surveys that are designed to help companies understand members’ attitudes and interests on a wide variety of topics not necessarily related to their Internet activities. Participation in these surveys is optional.

We also ask that you authorize us to collect information about your TV viewing habits (including data such as the channels and programs you watch and record and the on-demand programming you order) directly from your TV service provider on your behalf. We will use this information, together with the other information we collect about our panelists to further enhance our understanding of how members use and interact with these services.
***********************************************************************************
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on February 10, 2012, 12:33:38 AM
@ Donovansrb10,
Don't you know you can't argue with some one who states the following:
                "im a malware killer"

It's useless, he knows it all, even has more knowledge than essexboy.

Let the Mods take care of him. Maybe he'll listen to on of them.  :)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on February 10, 2012, 12:37:13 AM
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that site is dangerous get rid of the link before someone gets hit by this

I guess you know more than Virus total ???
https://www.virustotal.com/url/aa1766c07bd9053713f25efef7d024fd7ed07e5aec98aed5ee1485ffbe07b39d/analysis/1328830506/ (https://www.virustotal.com/url/aa1766c07bd9053713f25efef7d024fd7ed07e5aec98aed5ee1485ffbe07b39d/analysis/1328830506/)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: !Donovan on February 10, 2012, 12:39:08 AM
Let the Mods take care of him. Maybe he'll listen to on of them.  :)
I'll try.
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: DavidR on February 10, 2012, 12:46:47 AM
Let the Mods take care of him. Maybe he'll listen to on of them.  :)
I'll try.

They already have, they have finally had enough of him, banned.
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on February 10, 2012, 12:51:19 AM
Let the Mods take care of him. Maybe he'll listen to on of them.  :)
I'll try.

They already have, they have finally had enough of him, banned.

(http://home.comcast.net/~bob03160/SmileStarter/Kitten.jpg)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: CraigB on February 10, 2012, 01:10:02 AM
Let the Mods take care of him. Maybe he'll listen to on of them.  :)
I'll try.

They already have, they have finally had enough of him, banned.
After ten days away on holiday i return to excellent news  ;D plus the new forum and the beta release, it's amazing what a break will do  :)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: akama1 on February 10, 2012, 12:50:12 PM
agreed... avast behaviour blocker honestly isn't really that good on auto decide as far as i see... i open avast up when its on auto decide i see it analyzing suspicious events but no alert somehow :/ i hope avast will really improve on the behaviour shield though :/ auto-decide i prefer as ask pops me up with things that i do not know how to answer.... like when i download malware and run em in the vm... it pops up saying trying to modify protected resource... and i was like... what to answer???? i mean like come on... i was given that alert when i try to install whitelisted safe programs :/
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: YoKenny on February 10, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
Let the Mods take care of him. Maybe he'll listen to on of them.  :)
I'll try.

They already have, they have finally had enough of him, banned.
Good to see nsm0220 banned.  8)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: darkseeker111 on February 10, 2012, 04:27:12 PM
Can not uninstall avast program. error message displayed that product file"" not found
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Lisandro on February 10, 2012, 04:32:03 PM
Can not uninstall avast program. error message displayed that product file"" not found
Download the latest version of avast! Uninstall Utility (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html) and save it.
Boot in Safe Mode (http://www.pchell.com/support/safemode.shtml) and run it from there pointing to version 6.
Boot and reinstall the new public beta version.
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Cloud7 on February 14, 2012, 12:56:11 AM
Let the Mods take care of him. Maybe he'll listen to on of them.  :)
I'll try.

They already have, they have finally had enough of him, banned.
Good to see nsm0220 banned.  8)
Aren't you guys being a little too harsh? :o
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on February 14, 2012, 01:19:06 AM

Aren't you guys being a little too harsh? :o
After having been here for one month, I don't think you're really in any position to judge.  :)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Cloud7 on February 14, 2012, 09:17:19 PM

Aren't you guys being a little too harsh? :o
After having been here for one month, I don't think you're really in any position to judge.  :)
You have a point there. However, I have read nsm's older posts a couple months ago and he caused a few problems on the PCAV forum.
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: Pondus on February 14, 2012, 09:25:03 PM
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You have a point there. However, I have read nsm's older posts a couple months ago and he caused a few problems on the PCAV forum.
he also have a few that the mods just deleted   ;)
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: akama1 on February 21, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
wow nsm caused problems in the avast forums and the pcav forums :/ what forums would he plan to invade next?? AVG? avira? norton? kaspersky?
Title: Re: testing avast
Post by: bob3160 on February 21, 2012, 01:43:54 PM
Time to lock this topic at present, it's only a place for Spammers to post their crap.  >:(