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Title: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: MrScottyBear on May 22, 2012, 09:37:01 AM
Surely I'm not the only one having this...

About 30 minutes Ago windows started to do it's update thing.  Perfectly Normal!  A simple 3 part upgrade to Windows .NET and Windows XP.  It finishes and doesn't need a restart.  ...Then I immediately get another.  That finishes and it continues.  Currently installing a 5th update and I'm starting to get concerned that something is wrong.

Running Windows XP, all service packs, etc etc.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: Asyn on May 22, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
The strange thing is that all 3 updates are rather old..!!
I therefore didn't allow them to download until further investigation.
If anyone has some info to share, it would be really helpful...
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: MrScottyBear on May 22, 2012, 09:49:29 AM
updated a 6TH time.  Compared the KB filesize and all 3 are the exact same size as in the previous update.  Not much info, but it's better than nothing.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: Asyn on May 22, 2012, 09:58:46 AM
Here's what I have so far... (It's German, but you'll get the picture.)
Watch the dates..!!!

Sicherheitsupdate für Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 unter Windows Server 2003 und Windows XP x86 (KB2633880)
Letztes Veröffentlichungsdatum: 14.2.2012
Downloadgröße: 3 MB
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=232394

Sicherheitsupdate für Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 unter Windows Server 2003 und Windows XP x86 (KB2572073)
Letztes Veröffentlichungsdatum: 11.10.2011
Downloadgröße: 11.4 MB
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=225495

Sicherheitsupdate für .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 und 3.5 SP1 unter Windows Server 2003 und Windows XP x86 (KB2518864)
Letztes Veröffentlichungsdatum: 11.10.2011
Downloadgröße: 15 MB
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=212828
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: MrScottyBear on May 22, 2012, 10:24:07 AM
Rebooted.  Still getting the update, and getting very frustrated/worried.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: AdrianH on May 22, 2012, 10:42:31 AM
So don't allow the updates.  Set updates to notify you when available but you choose when/whether to install.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: MrScottyBear on May 22, 2012, 10:44:09 AM
...is it sad that I never even thought of that?  For now, that's what I'll do, I guess.  Thank you.  Hopefully someone will have an answer for why Windows .MET is being such a derp.

More info,  Upon canceling, it reveals it is attempting updates that are completely different than what it actually tries to do.  Info following.

Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2633880)
Security Update for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.5 SP1 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2518864)

Neither of those updates match the 3 that it keeps on trying.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd? (Resolved, maybe!)
Post by: MrScottyBear on May 22, 2012, 12:38:52 PM
Ran the Microsoft Fix it for windows updates problems and it has yet to show up again.  I guess it's fixed!
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: DavidR on May 22, 2012, 01:04:12 PM
Acting odd is the understatement of the year; the .net framework updates have been a bl00dy nightmare for a very long time.

First there was a security update. that I believed was .net 4.0 as I also have that installed, so installed that and a couple of optional software ones. Windows update downloaded and installed these and rebooted. Now it has got itself in an infinite loop of download install reboot, notify of the updates again on the third loop I gave up and unchecked the 3 updates and selected don't show these again.

Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: MrScottyBear on May 22, 2012, 01:45:04 PM
Acting odd is the understatement of the year; the .net framework updates have been a bl00dy nightmare for a very long time.

First there was a security update. that I believed was .net 4.0 as I also have that installed, so installed that and a couple of optional software ones. Windows update downloaded and installed these and rebooted. Now it has got itself in an infinite loop of download install reboot, notify of the updates again on the third loop I gave up and unchecked the 3 updates and selected don't show these again.

Most I can suggest is Running Microsoft Fix it like I did.  Best of luck!
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: Asyn on May 22, 2012, 02:20:51 PM
Now it has got itself in an infinite loop of download install reboot, notify of the updates again on the third loop I gave up and unchecked the 3 updates and selected don't show these again.

Were these the same ones, as listed in my Reply #3..??
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: DavidR on May 22, 2012, 02:24:51 PM
Since it was an out of sync update patch Tue (not 2nd Tuesday of the month) I think it was just regurgitating old security updates, which I had previously installed. So I already took care of it using the hide these updates function.

I'm not a fan of the beta fix it tool.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: DavidR on May 22, 2012, 02:27:07 PM
Now it has got itself in an infinite loop of download install reboot, notify of the updates again on the third loop I gave up and unchecked the 3 updates and selected don't show these again.

Were these the same ones, as listed in my Reply #3..??

Yes one and the same, see image.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: Asyn on May 22, 2012, 02:38:07 PM
Now it has got itself in an infinite loop of download install reboot, notify of the updates again on the third loop I gave up and unchecked the 3 updates and selected don't show these again.

Were these the same ones, as listed in my Reply #3..??

Yes one and the same, see image.

Thanks Dave. It seems MS messed something up...
I certainly won't allow it to download and play "loop games". ;)
Still wonder about the old dates..?!?
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: SpeedyPC on May 22, 2012, 03:14:49 PM
Thanks goodness somebody posted the 'Windows .NET update acting odd?' and yes I have the same problem, unless I'm prepared to bash MS with a baseball bat because I don't want to end up the same pathway in the past as the .net framework updates have been given a bloody nightmare for a very long time.

Anyway it time for me to  :-X ;)
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: bob3160 on May 22, 2012, 04:13:47 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120522-z6cp-37kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120522-z6cp-37kb)No updates available for Windows 8 Consumer Preview.  :)
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: DavidR on May 22, 2012, 04:30:17 PM
There won't be any windows updates reported on win7or win8, in this out of sequence windows update.  This is the first thing I checked, after receiving the out of sequence update notification on my fully up to date XP Pro SP3 system.

This is a windows update cock-up on winXP, probably MS trying to p*** off XP users in the futile hope they will upgrade ;P
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: Asyn on May 22, 2012, 04:36:05 PM
1. There won't be any windows updates reported on win7or win8, in this out of sequence windows update.  This is the first thing I checked, after receiving the out of sequence update notification on my fully up to date XP Pro SP3 system.

2. ...probably MS trying to p*** off XP users in the futile hope they will upgrade ;P

1. Yes, it only happens on XP.
2. If so - Nice try MS, better luck next time. ;D
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: MikeBCda on May 22, 2012, 09:59:17 PM
As time goes on I'm more and more grateful that I don't have anything (or go anywhere online) requiring .NET, so never added it.  :P

(Edit) Only one almost-exception ... one of my daughter's Blackberry online-updating apps turned out to want .NET to install.  So I just told her sorry, no can do.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: iroc9555 on May 22, 2012, 10:59:27 PM
The wierd thing is that I got this update KB2633880 today which was replaced for KB2604092 more than a week ago. Does it mean that KB2604092 will be offered again, may be tomorrow  :o.

This is also being discussed since May 8 here:

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/virus-spyware/f/3522/t/19448137.aspx
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: SpeedyPC on May 22, 2012, 11:47:52 PM
I've run MS update again this morning and it say 'No high-priority updates for your computer are available.' phew! it went back to normal after scaring all the XP users and my Secunia PSI also went back to normal as well from 97% to 100% showing the green light again.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: Asyn on May 23, 2012, 06:55:44 AM
I've run MS update again this morning and it say 'No high-priority updates for your computer are available.'

Confirmed..!! :)
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: AdrianH on May 23, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Windows-XP-in-update-loop-1582649.html
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: bob3160 on May 23, 2012, 01:32:29 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120523-qkj8-6kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120523-qkj8-6kb)@ AdrianH,
Can you either fix or delete the image from your forum profile. Please  :)




Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: AdrianH on May 23, 2012, 01:50:47 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120523-qkj8-6kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120523-qkj8-6kb)@ AdrianH,
Can you either fix or delete the image from your forum profile. Please  :)

How did you steal that then, it was there when I posted ?  :o ;)

How does an image disappear from a password protected private album, it has definitely gone.
Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: bob3160 on May 23, 2012, 01:59:02 PM

(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120523-qkj8-6kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120523-qkj8-6kb)@ AdrianH,
Can you either fix or delete the image from your forum profile. Please  :)

How did you steal that then, it was there when I posted ?  :o ;)

How does an image disappear from a password protected private album, it has definitely gone.

It's a question you have to ask Photobucket.


It's back now:
(http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/m_20120523-qahq-4kb.jpg) (http://my.jetscreenshot.com/2701/20120523-qahq-4kb)

Title: Re: Windows .NET update acting odd?
Post by: AdrianH on May 23, 2012, 02:06:42 PM
It's back as I had a copy on my machine and uploaded from there.