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Title: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 27, 2004, 12:07:26 AM
I just installed Thunderbird, and I was wondering how do you set it up to send/recieve email from Hotmail and Gmail?
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 27, 2004, 12:10:45 AM
First get Mrpostman from the link i just gave you

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 27, 2004, 12:12:27 AM
I downloaded that, now what?
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 27, 2004, 12:23:31 AM
Ok first of all for your hotmail go to tools>account settings then click add account, choose Email account, then in identity put your name where it says your name, then put your hotmail address for the email address (username@hotmail.com).
For server infomation, check 'pop' and 'use globle inbox', then for incoming server put 'localhost''.
For user names put your hotmail address again (username@hotmail.com)
Then the same for account name

The your account will be under 'account settins', so click on server settings for your account and change the port to 11110, and make sure 'use secure connection (ssl)' and 'use secure authentication' are unchecked.

The click ok, then get mail, it will ask you for your hotmail username and password, put them in and it should get your mail.

*note* Make sure 'mrpostman' is open while getting your hotmail.

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 27, 2004, 12:27:46 AM
I got up to the put localhost for the incomming server then I got confused, and what do i do with mrpostman? Do i need to put anything for the outgoing server down the bottom?
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 27, 2004, 12:35:28 AM
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I got up to the put localhost for the incomming server then I got confused

Well after putting 'localhost' in the box, press next/ok and carry on with what i said (put your account names for the next two steps of the wizard).

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and what do i do with mrpostman?

Nope its fine as it is, anless you don't want it starting up at boot time, in which case you will need to change it using hijackthis or mscongif i believe.

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o i need to put anything for the outgoing server down the bottom?

Yes, its for sending emails with Thunderbird, but u havn't told me what account you want to use for it yet (would be easyiest with gmail)

BTW, is it recieving your hotmail alright?

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 27, 2004, 12:38:17 AM
I put localhost and then clicked ok,next but it said  please enter a valid hostname?And was Mrpostman a program? because I got a bunch of scrpit files.
did you want my email address?
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 27, 2004, 12:42:20 AM
Ok, its getting late (near 12 at night here), so ill make this quick for the outgoing server because i want to go to bed.

Go to tools>account settings and set it up like the pic below.

*notes* by username i mean your personal gmail username
CLick 'write' in thunderbird to send mail, (it may ask you for your gmail username and password again)

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 27, 2004, 12:43:16 AM
I have to go, ill have to explain the rest tomorrow ok.  ;)

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 27, 2004, 12:44:36 AM
I'll let you get to bed, I did what u had in the pic then I re-set up my account, its worked ;D
But I get an error saying "sending of username did not succeed.Mail server localhost responded: no POP server defined. Use real server address instead of 127.0.0.1 in your account" does anyone know what this means?
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: Lisandro on December 27, 2004, 02:34:29 AM
Board bug  :P
When a thread is moved to the Announcements forum it is not closed for posts  ;D
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 27, 2004, 11:29:58 AM
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But I get an error saying "sending of username did not succeed.Mail server localhost responded: no POP server defined. Use real server address instead of 127.0.0.1 in your account" does anyone know what this means?

If you are getting this message when sending your email with Thunderbird, then log into gmail and go into settings and enable gmail into a pop server. (this has to be done anyway to recieve gmail anyway)

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 27, 2004, 11:49:30 AM
Ok, just read back and noticed you  were having problems with 'mrpostman', that is your server error problem, and i have also noticed i gave you the link to the script files rather then the installer, the real link should be below
(you just need to choose a mirror):

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/mrpostman/install-mrpostman-1.0.1.jar

Once its installed the GUI will look like the pic attatched below.

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 28, 2004, 12:56:33 AM
Thanks for the link, Do I need to keep those scripts? and I was getting that error when I was checking for new messages.
EDIT: there seems to be no installer inside that .rar file  ???
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 30, 2004, 11:36:12 PM
watchthisspace

I have only just got back home now, so i am able to help if you need any more help with setting up Thunderbird, did you manage to work it out on your own?, do you need help still?, please ask if you do need some help, im glad to advise.

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 31, 2004, 04:06:37 AM
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But I get an error saying "sending of username did not succeed.Mail server localhost responded: no POP server defined. Use real server address instead of 127.0.0.1 in your account" does anyone know what this means?

If you are getting this message when sending your email with Thunderbird, then log into gmail and go into settings and enable gmail into a pop server. (this has to be done anyway to recieve gmail anyway)

--lee
I am getting that error when I'm checking for hotmail email.I've only set-up my hotmail one so far. And that mrpostman didn't come with a installer, just files and a few folders.
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: Max M.Wachtel III on December 31, 2004, 06:21:05 AM
Why dont you try Hotmail Popper?
Do a google for version 2.1.1 it is the free one.
Works great with avast and thunderbird.(its what I use)
-max
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 31, 2004, 06:36:48 AM
I will do a search  ;D
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on December 31, 2004, 01:22:48 PM
I choose to suggest mrpostman over Hotmail popper because mrpostman can receive Hotmail/Gmail/Yahoo Mail as one application, so there is not need to install more then one.

Ok now to explain how to install mrpostman in an easy way, let me know if you get stuck.

Download the mrpostman application installer from here (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/mrpostman/install-mrpostman-20041031.jar?download) t your desktop (make sure its to your desktop only) then run this command from Start bar>Run, c:\program files\java\j2re1.4.2_05\bin\java -jar c:\(path to desktop)\install-mrpostman-20041031.jar.)
Make sure you install it to c:\program files\mrpostman
Then make sure you're logged in as an Administrator and run c:\program files\mrpostman\install-ntservice.bat
Hopefully then the MrPostman GUI will show up. Uncheck the "show GUI on startup" option (if you don't want it loading at boot time) and close the window.

You should then be able to receive your Hotmail

--lee


Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on December 31, 2004, 11:13:45 PM
Thanks,I'll do that after mrpostman has finished downloading
Do I need Java for this to run?
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 03, 2005, 12:40:12 PM
Yes, MrPostman is written in java so it is completely cross-plateform. you can get java from Here (http://jdl.sun.com/update/1.4.1/?version=1.4.1_02-b06)

*Note* If the default language on your computer is 'US English' then download the top one, if not download the 'Windows (All Languages)' one.

--lee
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 03, 2005, 11:29:06 PM
Thanks, how big is this download?
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 03, 2005, 11:33:30 PM
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Thanks, how big is this download?

As said just below the download ' Filesize = 10,242,464 bytes.' which is about 10.2 MB i think.

Takes seconds to install.
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 03, 2005, 11:35:19 PM
 im downloading it now  :D
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: DavidR on January 03, 2005, 11:46:50 PM
That was seconds to install not download.
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 03, 2005, 11:52:10 PM
oops   :-[  I need my eyes checked out  :-\
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 04, 2005, 12:19:27 AM
I've installing Java and mr postman, what should I do now?
Title: Re:Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 04, 2005, 12:40:05 PM
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I've installing Java and mr postman, what should I do now?

Well, open mrpostman, then open Thunderbird, then see if you can receive your hotmail yet, if you can we will move on to adding any other accounts to your Thunderbird, such as Gmail.

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 04, 2005, 09:05:41 PM
I opened thunderbird and my postman but I still can't recieve emails with the error "Sending of username did not succeed.Mail server localhost responded: no POP server defined. Use real server address instead of 127.0.0.1 in your account"  ???
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 04, 2005, 11:19:41 PM
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"Sending of username did not succeed.Mail server localhost responded: no POP server defined. Use real server address instead of 127.0.0.1 in your account"

Could you post a screenshot of the server settings soon (open Thunderbird>tools>account settings> then click the server settings bit in the left hand side.)

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 05, 2005, 06:28:37 AM
At your request
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 05, 2005, 12:05:50 PM
Ahh i see the problems.

First is tim_. ._. your hotmail username?, if it is it should be written like this tim_. ._.@hotmail.com
Also you should be using port 11110 not 110

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 05, 2005, 09:54:45 PM
Thanks,It's working now  ;D How do I set up thunderbird to send/recieve gmail?
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 05, 2005, 10:19:31 PM
Ok first you need to make your gmail smtp account into a gmail pop account this is done by logging into your gmail account then choosing Settings from the top Gmail navigation bar.
Select the Forwarding and POP tab.
Make sure either Enable POP for all mail or Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on.
Choose Enable POP for all mail if you want to download mail previously received at your Gmail account. Otherwise, select Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on.
Select the action you want applied to mail after you have downloaded it to your email client under When messages are accessed with POP.
Click Save Changes.

Then open Thunderbird and select Tools>Account Settings... from the menu.
Click Add Account....
Make sure Email account is selected.
Click Next >.
Type your name under Your Name:.
Enter your Gmail address under Email Address:. (username@gail.com)
Click Next >.
Make sure POP is selected under Select the type of incoming server you are using..
Type "pop.gmail.com" under Incoming Server:.
 Click Next >.
Enter your full email address (username@gmail.com) under Incoming User Name:.
You'll just have to append "@gmail.com" to what Mozilla Thunderbird has already entered for you.
Click Next >.
Give the Gmail account a name (something like "Gmail", for example) under Account Name:.
Click Next >.
Now click Finish.

Then check and see if you can receive you gmail, it will ask you for your gmail username and password, put them in and it should get your mail.

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 05, 2005, 10:28:58 PM
Do I leave checked "use global inbox (store mail in local files" ?
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 05, 2005, 10:46:36 PM
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Do I leave checked "use global inbox (store mail in local files" ?

yes


--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 05, 2005, 11:01:15 PM
Ok, I'll have to set it up later, Im off to a movie  :)

Bye  ;)
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 06, 2005, 02:49:41 AM
I set it up and I think I might have a problem because theres no gmail section to the left and the servers for STMP are for hotmail  ???
And I just got a error saying "An error occurred with the POP3 mail server.Mail server pop.gmail.com responded:" And Im not getting anyemails from hotmail, I just sent a test one and thunderbird didnt get it  ???
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 06, 2005, 01:01:09 PM
Hotmail don't let you send messages out though there server, so it will block you, best do it though another server such as gmail, for this please follow the instructions below:

# Select Outgoing Server (SMTP).
# Click Advanced....
# Click Add...
# Type "smtp.gmail.com" under Server Name:.
# Make sure Use name and password is checked.
# Type your Gmail address under User Name:.
# Make sure TLS is selected under Use secure connection:.
# Type "587" under Port:.
# Click OK.
# Click OK again.
# Select Server Settings under the newly created Gmail account.
# Click Use secure connection (SSL) to enable it.
# Click Advanced....
# Go to the SMTP tab.
# Select smtp.google.com:587 from the Server: drop-down list.
# Click OK.
# Click OK once more.

Now for you hotmail and gmail accounts, are you sure that the mail you sent was in your inbox?, s i think you can only get the mail from there.

If so, ill need a screenshot of your server settings so i can check them.

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 06, 2005, 10:34:55 PM
I did all that, and now when I reply to an email I get this error "Sending of message failed. An error occurred when sending mail: Unable to connect to STMP server.gmail.com .Ther server may be down or incorrectly configured. please verify that your mail/news account settings are correct and try again. and I get the same message but for stmp.hotmail.com for my hotmail one.
What sever settings do u want a picture of?
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 07, 2005, 11:10:40 AM
# Click Use secure connection (SSL) to enable it (uncheck this)
# Make sure TLS is selected under Use secure connection:. (uncheck this)

Sorry about this, im going by memory at the moment as my computer is in the comp shop having an upgrade.

--lee

Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 07, 2005, 11:14:19 PM
They're all unchecked but I still get the error and I get this error when checking for Gmail "An error occurred with the POP3 mail server.Mail server pop.gmail.com responded"
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 08, 2005, 12:50:04 AM
ok try this for your gmail, use SSL enabled, and use port 995.
After that, post screenshots of all your server settings for all the accounts that don't work, ill check over them.
That includs your outgoing server settings (if your having a problem with sending mail)

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 08, 2005, 12:57:53 AM
Heres my outgoing server
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 08, 2005, 01:03:07 AM
Gmail settings..
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 08, 2005, 01:07:38 AM
and my hotmail
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 08, 2005, 01:08:32 AM
The ports should be started in 'mrpostman' have a look, also i have asked technical if he can help, he knows alot about setting these accounts up.
But i have yet again ran out of time (1AM here  :-\), so i have to go again, sorry.

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 08, 2005, 01:18:56 AM
The ports should be started in 'mrpostman' have a look, also i have asked technical if he can help, he knows alot about setting these accounts up.
But i have yet again ran out of time (1AM here  :-\), so i have to go again, sorry.

--lee
What do u mean the ports should have been started in mrpostman?
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 08, 2005, 11:19:42 AM
I meant stated, open up 'mrpostman', then click on one of the tabs, it should say accounts like gmail and hotmail down the side, it can provid certain info like ports that could be of help.

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 08, 2005, 12:21:17 PM
It doesnt tell me anything about the ports, just the version number of them
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: nestea5 on January 09, 2005, 07:27:50 AM
Hey i just set up my hotmail account and I cllicked get mail and got all my mail from hotmail.com. I now have another problem though, when I try to send an email out it says,

"Sending of messagea failed.
The message could not be sent because connecting to SMTP server localhost failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing SMPT connections. Please verify that your SMPT server setting is correct and try again, or else contact your network administartor."

I dont get why im getting this error because I can receive the mail just fine ><!  ???
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 09, 2005, 12:21:13 PM
watchthisspace,

For your Gmail outgoing server your suppost to have TSL checked for Gmail, also you spelt it ‘stmp.gmail.com’ when its 'smtp.gmail.com'.
For your incoming gmail server check ‘use secure connection (ssl)’ and change the port to 995.
Also the bit above gmail server settings should be tim.tim.timmy@gmail.com I think.
About the hotmail, are you sure you spelt your username correctly, as it seems to me that the bit above server settings has a ‘,’ just before the ‘@’, also any other spelling mistakes check for.

nestea5,

I’m about 90% sure hotmail don’t allow you to send mails though there server (they don’t like you to receive them either), so you may have to set up the outgoing server settings for another account you use (such as gmail, yahoo mail, your ISP mail ETC).

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 09, 2005, 10:23:00 PM
I can now send/recieve Gmail but I can only recieve hotmail
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 09, 2005, 10:57:18 PM
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I can now send/recieve Gmail but I can only recieve hotmail

Ok just so i understand, you can recieve your gmail and hotmail into Thunderbird?, and also you can send mail with Thunderbird?
If so, this is how its supposed to be, you only need one outgoing server and its set up as a gmail one, so all is working fine.
Do you want to add anymore accounts to Thunderbird? (such as Yahoo mail or your ISP mail).
Is there any more questions problems you have?

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 11, 2005, 10:06:28 AM
The only problem is that I cant send Hotmail mail
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 12, 2005, 06:20:22 PM
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The only problem is that I cant send Hotmail mail

What exactly are you meaning by this?, I'm a little confused.  :-[

--lee

Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 12, 2005, 09:50:38 PM
I get this error
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 12, 2005, 09:56:50 PM
Ill need to see your settings again then, i take it you set up Hotmail for your outgoing server instead of gmail (can't be done btw)

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 12, 2005, 10:05:14 PM
Do you want my outgoing and hotmail settings?
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 12, 2005, 10:16:09 PM
The one you think are wrong ill need to see.
Are your outgoing server settings set up with gmail or hotmail btw?

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 12, 2005, 10:22:55 PM
Yes, My outgoing server is set-up with gmail
Heres my hotmail set up
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 12, 2005, 10:25:45 PM
And here is the outgoing server settings
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 12, 2005, 10:28:10 PM
For hotmail settings:

Use port 11110 (four 1's  ;)) instead of 1110  :)
Also uncheck 'Use secure connection (SSL)'

You are having 'Mrpostman' Open at the same time as thunderbird aswell right?

For Gmail outgoing setting:

Can you send mails out using thunderbird, because the outgoing settings look fine.

--lee

Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 12, 2005, 10:35:15 PM
I do have mrpostman on at the same time as thunderbird  :D
I still get the error about smp.hotmail.com when I try to send hotmail mail, and I get this error when I try to send a email from my gmail account
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 12, 2005, 10:41:06 PM
Heres my Gmail settings
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 12, 2005, 10:49:18 PM
Gmail incoming look fine, try setting your outgoing server settings up with your ISP settings (you should be able to find them on your ISP homepage)

About your hotmail account, do your settings look like mine (apart from username ofcourse) (see below).

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 12, 2005, 10:53:03 PM
Yes,they look the same  :)
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 12, 2005, 11:00:56 PM
I don't see how the prob;ems happening then, so ill make sure i understand what your saying, when you press the  'get mail' button, you get that error message, am i right?

And when you press the 'Write' button and press send after writting the mail, you get the other error message, am i right? (if so, set up outgoing settings for your ISP outgoing settings)

If so, try closing your firewall temporarily, then try sending/receiving the mail again, if no luck, try disabling avast temporarily  :-\

--lee
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 12, 2005, 11:47:59 PM
I can recive mail fine, but can't send mail, I havent found my mail settings from my ISP yet  :(
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: bob3160 on January 13, 2005, 12:06:26 AM
watchthisspace
Can't you call customer service and have them give you the information?
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 13, 2005, 12:34:51 AM
I dont have to now  :) I found the letter telling you how to set up my ISP email  ;D
Now lets see if it works

BINGO!!! I deleted the smtp.hotmail.com settings in the sever settings then advanced part now I can send and recive hotmail and gmail mail  :)
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 13, 2005, 12:54:51 AM
Thank you everbody for helping me set-up thunderbird (especially Lee16 ;) ) 8) :)
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: bob3160 on January 13, 2005, 02:34:52 AM
In this case, lee is the one who deserves all the credit. :)
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on January 13, 2005, 12:42:09 PM
No problem at all, im glad to help.
Now only thing(s) to do are click Tools>extensions and choose any extensions you want for Thunderbird (optional)
Then click Tools>Themes and choose a Skin you want Thunderbird (optional)

After that, just keep Thunderbird up to date and you will be fine, this is done by goping to Tools>options>advanced then click 'check now' under updates.

--lee

Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: watchthisspace on January 18, 2005, 07:18:58 AM
I will do that, thanks again  :)

Watchthisspace
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: jaginc on February 05, 2005, 02:17:42 AM
I am trying desperatley to set up mr postman the instruction given just arent working someone direct me please
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: bob3160 on February 05, 2005, 02:34:21 AM
jaginc
Welcome to the Forum
In this case, I suggest you follow this thread from it's beginning.
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: jaginc on February 05, 2005, 02:51:19 AM
 >:( in this case i have along with 4 other people that have asked me to figure out the problem maybe better "working" instruction are due
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: jaginc on February 05, 2005, 03:26:42 AM
The problem im having is i cant seem to get mrpostman to install seems weird but i cant i code for a living along with running my own isp among many many other web related things so this really shouldnt be a problem
Title: Re: Thunderbird set-up
Post by: lee16 on February 05, 2005, 12:51:10 PM
jaginc,

You have to have Java installed if you want to install mrpostman as it programmed 100% in Java, are you sure you have Java installed on your system?
To check go to Control Panel and see is "Java Plug-in" is there, if it is, open it up click on the "update" tab and from there click on "get java update", if your java is out of date it will give you the option to download the latest one, do so and install it.

After this download "mrpostman" from HERE (http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/mrpostman/install-mrpostman-20050108.jar) to your desktop.
When it is downloaded double click the file and run though the installation.


Hope this helps  :)

--lee