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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: safetynut on June 04, 2012, 03:47:41 AM
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How do I "turn off" avast free antivirus to run a defragment?
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Why?
The defragmentation occurs at low level and avast! does not interfere (or scan the files because of it).
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:o ??? As Tech says WHY?
You have never needed to turn off any antivirus system to defrag, where did this idea come from ?
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The Windows XP manual that I have says to exit all programs, disable your antivirus software, and empty the Recyle Bin before you run Disk Defragmentation. Windows XP includes Microsoft Security Essentials, which I assume must be disabled. And I have the free avast antivirus software, which is why I'm asking how to temporarily disable it.
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And I have the free avast antivirus software, which is why I'm asking how to temporarily disable it.
You can safely ignore your manual...!!! :)
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The Windows XP manual that I have says to exit all programs, disable your antivirus software, and empty the Recyle Bin before you run Disk Defragmentation. Windows XP includes Microsoft Security Essentials, which I assume must be disabled. And I have the free avast antivirus software, which is why I'm asking how to temporarily disable it.
I have never disabled my antivirus to run a defrag in all of the years that I have had XP and it has never been an issue. Whilst it would be beneficial to clear the Recycle Bin (if you don't do so regularly), you would also benefit from clearing your temp files.
XP doesn't include Microsoft Security Essentials, that is something that you have to install. On that subject you shouldn't have two resident AVs installed on the same system at the same time.
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Okay, so I guess the Windows XP manual instructions are overly zealous as to disabling antivirus software when defragging.
The Microsoft Security Essentials was on the pc when I got it via a company give away of this used pc. I had avast put on it since I trust avast as being superior, but the Microsoft Security Essentials has a firewall, which the free avast does not (correct?). So that is why I am fearful of not having it.
What does it do to the pc to have two antivirus programs?
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1. Okay, so I guess the Windows XP manual instructions are overly zealous as to disabling antivirus software when defragging.
2. ...but the Microsoft Security Essentials has a firewall...
3. What does it do to the pc to have two antivirus programs?
1. Right.
2. No, but Windows has one.
3. All kind of problems, like lagging, FPs, BSODs, etc...
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Resident anti-virus applications intercept files before they are run/created/modified, etc. to be able to do this (hooking files) they have to load low level drivers and it is these which can conflict. At best it causes duplication of scanning and resource use, at worst it can lock the system (possibly leaving it without the protection of either AV).
Should this lockup occur at boot time it may lock you out of your system. This would require booting into safe mode to uninstall on of the two AVs. So it is best not to have two resident AVs installed in the first place.
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Could you please explain each of these: lagging, FPs, BSODs, etc... ?
So the firewall I see is via the Windows XP operating system and not Microsoft Security Essentials?
So I should delete (how) the Microsoft Security Essentials and leave the avast antivirus program????
I do notice that the CPU frequently revs up for long periods at a time, slowing things down. And about a week or so ago, when I restarted I got the message: Windows did not start successfully, and saying to choose the Last known good configuration or to Start Windows normally, etc. Choosing either did not help. I had to restart twice before the system came up okay. Is this linked to the two antivirus programs, do you think?
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Could you please explain each of these: lagging, FPs, BSODs, etc... ?
Well FP is false positives, because one antivirus could detect the other signatures and temporary files.
BSODs are blue screen of death which is a huge conflict between programs or drivers.
So the firewall I see is via the Windows XP operating system and not Microsoft Security Essentials?
MSE does not have a firewall.
So I should delete (how) the Microsoft Security Essentials and leave the avast antivirus program????
Yes. When you uninstall it, Windows will restore Windows Defender (which can be used side by side with avast).
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Thank you. Might you also respond to this question as well:
I do notice that the CPU frequently revs up for long periods at a time, slowing things down. And about a week or so ago, when I restarted I got the message: Windows did not start successfully, and saying to choose the Last known good configuration or to Start Windows normally, etc. Choosing either did not help. I had to restart twice before the system came up okay. Is this linked to the two antivirus programs, do you think?
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Also I forgot to ask:
Could I copy/DL the Microsoft Securities Essentials program to a CD or Flashdrive to keep it just in case, before I uninstall it?
OR, could I just turn off the Real-time protection for MSE and then just use it to scan manually once a week (as an extra layer of protection)??? And if so, Real-time scanning wouldn't need to be turned back on for a manual scan would it??
Actually, a little while ago, I turned off MSE Real-time---then I panicked and tried to turn it back on. It hung/froze. I finally had to do a hard turn off (don't know if that's the right terminology). When I restarted, the protection was back on, . . .
Advice/opinion???
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You don't need to keep the MSE program since it is easily downloaded from Microsoft at any time. I'm not sure if turning off the real time protection is sufficient to prevent conflicts. I would play it safe and completely uninstall MSE.
The firewall you see is part of Windows XP. It's called the Windows Firewall and is completely seperate from any AV program, even MSE.
I also have never turned off my AV to defrag. Well, I take that back, I did once to see if it would go any faster and it didn't seem to so I leave it on. I also leave it on while gaming and it never causes any problem.
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I do notice that the CPU frequently revs up for long periods at a time, slowing things down. And about a week or so ago, when I restarted I got the message: Windows did not start successfully, and saying to choose the Last known good configuration or to Start Windows normally, etc. Choosing either did not help. I had to restart twice before the system came up okay. Is this linked to the two antivirus programs, do you think?
Most likely.
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OR, could I just turn off the Real-time protection for MSE and then just use it to scan manually once a week (as an extra layer of protection)???
No, you have to completely uninstall MSE.
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You guys are giving me wonderful help and information. I keep thinking of additional details to ask about. Hope that's ok.
1. Would it make any difference that I have Windows XP Pro as opposed to the home version--as far as disabling MSE or any other AV when I defrag? (Sorry--not trying to beat the dead horse, just trying to cover all the bases.)
2. To uninstall MSE: do I just go to Add/Remove Programs and uninstall it there? Because I saw information on the windows.microsoft. com site with instructions to uninstall this way (though it was really talking about uninstalling other AVs so as to download MSE):
It instructed to Start / Run / type "appwiz.cpl" / Enter.
Then in the list of installed programs, uninstall any other Internet security programs.
Then restart the pc.
It then cautioned that some security apps don't uninstall completely. That you may need to DL and run a cleanup utility to completely remove them.
Do you think that would be necessary, either way of doing the uninstall???? I don't want to have to get into stuff like that--don't have the time or expertise, etc.
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You guys are giving me wonderful help and information. I keep thinking of additional details to ask about. Hope that's ok.
1. Would it make any difference that I have Windows XP Pro as opposed to the home version--as far as disabling MSE or any other AV when I defrag? (Sorry--not trying to beat the dead horse, just trying to cover all the bases.)
2. To uninstall MSE: do I just go to Add/Remove Programs and uninstall it there? Because I saw information on the windows.microsoft. com site with instructions to uninstall this way (though it was really talking about uninstalling other AVs so as to download MSE):
It instructed to Start / Run / type "appwiz.cpl" / Enter.
Then in the list of installed programs, uninstall any other Internet security programs.
Then restart the pc.
It then cautioned that some security apps don't uninstall completely. That you may need to DL and run a cleanup utility to completely remove them.
Do you think that would be necessary, either way of doing the uninstall???? I don't want to have to get into stuff like that--don't have the time or expertise, etc.
Doesn't matter what operating system you have, you shouldn't have two AV's on the same system and defraging is not affected by different operating systems.
Yes uninstall MSE via add remove programs then run the MSE removal tool http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9748340 to clean up leftovers
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1. Someone mentioned Windows Defender--that it would replace MSE after that was uninstalled, but that WD would run alongside avast without any problem.
Do you recommend installing that?
2. Or is avast good to cover all AV issues? I also have Malware Bytes and Spybot installed, in addition to avast free antivirus.
3. Is it necessary to turn off the ScreenSaver to defrag?
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1. Windows Defender isn't needed if you already have antivirus and antispyware like Avast.
2. Avast Free is good already. If you need another 'safety net', Malwarebytes is a good choice for you.
Sometimes too much security software just give you more unnecessary trouble rather than securing you.
3. It's not necessary to do so.
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Windows Defender doesn't do anything that Avast doesn't do and what they both do, Avast does better. You can't uninstall Windows Defender but you can turn it off.
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Slightly O/T, but you might want to think about a 3rd-party defragger. I like Puran (freeware) mainly because it includes the option for a boot-time defrag, before anything to speak of has loaded.
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1. Windows Defender isn't needed if you already have antivirus and antispyware like Avast.
2. Avast Free is good already. If you need another 'safety net', Malwarebytes is a good choice for you.
Sometimes too much security software just give you more unnecessary trouble rather than securing you.
3. It's not necessary to do so.
I would not trust advice of anyone running Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)
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Thanks so much to everyone.
But now I'm getting very nervous about uninstalling MSE. I am not that knowledgeable about pcs, and can't get in too deep with procedures. I googled "uninstalling Microsoft Security Essentials" to see if there was any info about problems doing it.
Sure enough, there were problems. The advice given by Microsoft forum people was way over my head. I am not able to deal iwth involved/complex pc issues, and I can't afford to lose the use of my pc.
So far I've been told to uninstall using the Add/Remove Programs and then run the MSE removal tool to clean up leftovers. (http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9748340)
I have not tried to uninstall MSE yet for I must be sure it will not cause problems with the OS or avast, etc. I did click on the above link just to see if it was similar to what I've seen as advice on the Microsoft site. But it wanted to be run right then, so I got out of it.
Also, did anyone see the explanation of what happened when I just tried to turn off the MSE Real-time protection? Shortly after doing that, I panicked and tried to turn it back on. It hung up and wouldn't end with a Contro/Alt/Delete. I had to do a hard close (if that's what it's called). When I restarted the pc, MSE's Real-time was back on and things were back to normal.
I really do need to get rid of MSE because I know it is taxing the system. But I'm scared to make a big mess.
Have any of you actually uninstalled MSE yourselves? And with avast, Malware Bytes, and Spybot on your system at the same time? Does the Add/Remove Programs usually work? How will you know it's worked correctly? Should you immediately run the link I was given after doing this?
Does Microsoft have numerous cleanup/removal tool links????
I know I've asked a lot of questions. But please, if you can, answer each one.
Thank you. Thank you.
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You can't uninstall Windows Defender but you can turn it off.
You can uninstall it on XP.
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Using the windows built in uninstaller method is easy and not problematic in my experience, download the MSE uninstaller tool i supplied and save then go to Add Remove programs click and highlight MSE then click uninstall, once completed reboot your system and run the uninstall tool - after this step is always a good time to run CCleaner to tidy.
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I would not trust advice of anyone running Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)
You don't have to worry about that since I'm giving the advice to the OP, not you. It's a sincere advice to her. Either she can take it or leave it, that's for her to decide not you.
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I would not trust advice of anyone running Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)
You don't have to worry about that since I'm giving the advice to the OP, not you. It's a sincere advice to her. Either she can take it or leave it, that's for her to decide not you.
I personally don't see why you're in here giving advice on the avast forum if you're not even using the product ???
Certainly smells like trolling to me. :o
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I would not trust advice of anyone running Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)
You don't have to worry about that since I'm giving the advice to the OP, not you. It's a sincere advice to her. Either she can take it or leave it, that's for her to decide not you.
I personally don't see why you're in here giving advice on the avast forum if you're not even using the product ???
Certainly smells like trolling to me. :o
+1 ;D
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See this http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic260844.html/page__p__1441638#entry1441638 :)
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Guys,
I now totally believe and agree with you that I should have only one AV program on my pc. But as I recently stated, I'm afraid of the uninstall of MSE creating problems I don't have the capability or time to handle.
(I am going through tremendous financial difficulties and health problems and am not able to deal with pc problems.)
May I ask about craigb's recent advice:
1. "Download the MSE uninstaller tool I supplied, . . ."
Will it let me save it to a file I can get to easily? Or does it want to be run immediately upon clicking on the link for it?
2. ". . . run CCleaner to tidy."
I would have to DL that. Does that mean it would be sweeping through the Registry? I've been told in the past not to deal with the registry unless you know what you're doing (I don't). Or can it be set to clean up areas other than the registry for this purpose?????
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Let's simplify things. Uninstall MSE you will find the uninstaller here http://singularlabs.com/uninstallers/security-software/
See this http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic260844.html/page__p__1441638#entry1441638
Use CCleaner to clean the registry. Don't worry it's safe.
Disable Windows Defender (it's useless)
Install avast http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=95170.msg758853#msg758853
Install MalwareBytes http://filehippo.com/download_malwarebytes_anti_malware/
Install Super Anti-Spyware http://filehippo.com/download_superantispyware/
I get the distinct feeling you are worried you might screw something up. Follow Bob's, Asyn's, YoKenny's, Dch48's, craigb's and my advice and you won't go wrong or mess anything up. It seems as if you want to complicate things. Keep it simple.
Let us know if you need more help. That's what we are here for. :)
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Is the singularlabs.com link a better uninstaller for MSE than the Add/Remove programs I have?
Do you click on that link--and then what?? Does it specifically have to do with MSE, or do you choose MSE from a list of things it will uninstall?
Should I DL CCleaner before I try to uninstall so the program will be on the pc, ready and waiting?
I don't need to uninstall Windows Defender--I don't have it on my pc.
But I already have avast free antivirus, Malware Bytes, and Spybot--so I don't need to install them. Oh, I see the last mentioned is Super Anti-Spyware. I am not familiar with that, . .
Yes, I think something could be screwed up, not necessarily what I do if I follow instructions, but the system itself can present problems I'm not equipped to handle. I know I can ask you guys things, but if I am locked out of the system or it's acting caflooey (?) as a result of trying to uninstall MSE, I wouldn't be able to contact you, . . .
Thus, my fears.
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Q" Is the singularlabs.com link a better uninstaller for MSE than the Add/Remove programs I have? A" The singularlabs.com link connects you to the site from which i gathered the MSE removal tool for you, run that after uninstalling MSE normally.
Q" Do you click on that link--and then what?? Does it specifically have to do with MSE, or do you choose MSE from a list of things it will uninstall? A" See above :)
Q" Should I DL CCleaner before I try to uninstall so the program will be on the pc, ready and waiting? A" Yes, download and install it - Pick the slim build as it has no google toolbar included http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds
I don't need to uninstall Windows Defender--I don't have it on my pc. A" Good
Dont worry about installing SUPERAntiSpyware at the moment as you already have Malwarebytes for backup scan's, "note" that in the past there have been issues with spybot and avast ( mainly with tea timer ) so i personally would uninstall that as well.
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I would not trust advice of anyone running Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)
You don't have to worry about that since I'm giving the advice to the OP, not you. It's a sincere advice to her. Either she can take it or leave it, that's for her to decide not you.
I personally don't see why you're in here giving advice on the avast forum if you're not even using the product ???
Certainly smells like trolling to me. :o
FYI, my system spec in my signature is my primary computer that I use most of the time. I have old Windows XP PC using Avast as it's antivirus in my home (Avast running stable in this PC but not in my laptop). That's why I still go to this forum from time to time to see any news about new version development of Avast.
For heaven sake, it's just a simple and sincere advice to the OP not you. But, hey I welcome you to call me troll if that make you happy with your life... Cheers.
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craigb,
1. I was going to at least DL the CCleaner to have it on the pc (though I'm not ready to uninstall MSE, etc., yet). I went to the link, but it says "Builds below are for system administrators and advanced users" and the Slim build was one of those links. I'm not an advanced user, so how can I handle that "build"?
It is true that I don't want a google toolbar, . . . though.
2. Also, in reading some of the reviews about CCleaner, it is strongly recommended to back up the entire system before using CCleaner, especially before cleaning the registry.
I have most of My Document files on a Flashdrive in addition to the C drive. But I don't know how to do an entire system backup, nor do I have an external harddrive on which to do it.
I told you I was in way over my head with all this. If I could just use the Add/Remove program to uninstall MSE and that would take care of it, and let me get on with the other great difficulties I'm trying to deal with personally, . . . . . . .
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2. Also, in reading some of the reviews about CCleaner, it is strongly recommended to back up the entire system before using CCleaner, especially before cleaning the registry.
Install Ccleaner, use the default settings.
Allow ccleaner to clean up the garbage left behind any time you visit the internet or use a program.
The default settings are safe and you don't need to be an expert if you don't do any changes in the other options they offer.
You also don't need to be afraid of the Google toolbar. If you don't want it uncheck it when you do the installation of Ccleaner.
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bob3160,
Thank you. But what about using CCleaner to clean the registry after uninstalling MSE as I've been advised to do? That's more than cleaning up after visiting the internet or using a program, isn't it?
And that's when it's recommended a system backup be done beforehand. As I explained in my last post:
I have most of My Document files on a Flashdrive in addition to the C drive. But I don't know how to do an entire system backup, nor do I have an external harddrive on which to do it.
Advice, opinions??
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bob3160,
Thank you. But what about using CCleaner to clean the registry after uninstalling MSE as I've been advised to do? That's more than cleaning up after visiting the internet or using a program, isn't it?
And that's when it's recommended a system backup be done beforehand. As I explained in my last post:
I have most of My Document files on a Flashdrive in addition to the C drive. But I don't know how to do an entire system backup, nor do I have an external harddrive on which to do it.
Advice, opinions??
Use the removal tool that was already offered to you in order to remove MSE. Forget about the registry.
The removal tool will get rid of everything that might interfere with avast! Anything that may not be removed isn't
anything to worry about.
It's all I used when I installed avast! free on the new Windows 8 release. :)
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bob3160,
Oh, I see. I thought the phrase ". . . and run the uninstall tool--after this step is always a good time to run CCleaner to tidy" meant to then use CCleaner to tidy the registry. I just connected using CCleaner with registry cleaning since a program had just been removed. My misunderstanding.
I had CCleaner on a prior pc, and I used to use it for "general" cleaning. But I knew it had the capability to clean the registry, which causes fear and trepidation, thus my concern before understanding what was meant.
Thank you.
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Your welcome. Enjoy avast! :)
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But I already have avast and like it. The whole problem arose because both it and MSE are on my pc, and I was advised to get rid of MSE.
I know it's hard to discern all the details when posts get so long and strung out, and there's lots and varied input.
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I was just going to DL CCleaner before calling it a night. But (and don't laugh) when I hit the Download button, do I Run the file or Save it???
If I save it, where should I save it? I thought that when it's installed, it should go in Documents and Settings\User 1\Desktop\My Downloads\, . . . but where should it go if I save the .exe file right now???
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Always download to a location where you can easily find it. Double click to install.
I agree with craigb uninstall SpyBot S&D as it's basically useless. When you use CCleaner to clean the registry CCleaner will ask if you want to make a backup, just in case. CCleaner is, as a rule, safe. :)
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I use the registry cleaning feature in CCleaner frequently and 95% of the time elect not to back up the changes. I have never had a problem doing things that way. I would say that CCleaner is very safe and there is no reason whatsoever to do a full system backup before using it. Not even the registry cleaning part since if you choose to make a backup, the registry can be easily restored to it's previous state if a problem crops up.
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I use the registry cleaning feature in CCleaner frequently and 95% of the time elect not to back up the changes. I have never had a problem doing things that way.
Unless you're an expert at cleaning the registry, the safest thing to do is to NOT clean the registry.
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I use the registry cleaning feature in CCleaner frequently and 95% of the time elect not to back up the changes. I have never had a problem doing things that way.
Unless you're an expert at cleaning the registry, the safest thing to do is to NOT clean the registry.
Hi!
A few hours ago I downloaded 'CCleaner' to see, what's the better choice: 'CCleaner' or 'Sweepi'. After installing 'CCleaner' I run it and after that running 'Defraggler' (for MS-Defrag is s..t).
After the restart of the system (XP) I ran 'Sweepi' and that saved 10 MB extra space! ;D
BTW: I missed starting a Registry-backup in 'CCleaner', 'Sweepi' asks before starting!
HDW38
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@HDW38,
How does what I posted and what you quoted relate to your post ???
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@HDW38,
How does what I posted and what you quoted relate to your post ???
I'd never turn off avast before defrag. ;D
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@HDW38,
How does what I posted and what you quoted relate to your post ???
I'd never turn off avast before defrag. ;D
The quote referred to "not cleaning the registry"
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@HDW38,
How does what I posted and what you quoted relate to your post ???
I'd never turn off avast before defrag. ;D
The quote referred to "not cleaning the registry"
Dear Bob!
I got that. :) But i just wanted to remark, that kind of those programs need a registry-backup. ;)
Please excuse, if I misunderstood you.
HDW38
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:)
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:)
That's kind of 'nice', you ever use in your profile. :)
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I use the registry cleaning feature in CCleaner frequently and 95% of the time elect not to back up the changes. I have never had a problem doing things that way.
Unless you're an expert at cleaning the registry, the safest thing to do is to NOT clean the registry.
With CCleaner you don't need to be an expert. It's totally safe, especially if you back up the changes. It really doesn't do any more (or less in my experience) than something like Revo Uninstaller does.
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It really doesn't do any more (or less in my experience) than something like Revo Uninstaller does.
Funny but that's something else I will not use because it has on several occasions removed shared .dll files
rendering programs other than the one being removed inoperable.
Safer to leave a few items in the registry than to remove things that shouldn't have been removed. :)
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Okay, guys, I'm doing things bit by bit as I can.
I just installed CCleaner. Two questions at the moment:
1. Should I delete the "ccsetup319.exe" desktop file it created?
2. I see that CCleaner has an "Uninstaller" in the Tools section. Might that be a better uninstaller to use for removing MSE than the Windows Add/Remover Programs??
Appreciate all your help.
Not exactly sure when I'll set the uninstall of MSE in motion. Hopefully, tomorrow given the time and the ability to work up the courage.
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1. Should I delete the "ccsetup319.exe" desktop file it created?
That would be the installer that you saved to install CCleaner. I created a folder where I keep up to date installers for the programs I usually run in my comp just in case I have to reinstall them again, but yes if you want to remove it, go ahead.
2. I see that CCleaner has an "Uninstaller" in the Tools section. Might that be a better uninstaller to use for removing MSE than the Windows Add/Remover Programs??
No. It just runs the program uninstaller. It is there for better access to Add/Remove Programs.
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Not exactly sure when I'll set the uninstall of MSE in motion. Hopefully, tomorrow given the time and the ability to work up the courage.
Doesn't take long (20 seconds) to uninstall MSE via remove programs reboot and run the removal tool link i posted earlyer (10 seconds) and finish with run of CCleaner. The registry cleaning with CCleaner is safe to do, iv never seen it remove something that it shouldn't unlike Revo and many other system tools.
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I use the registry cleaning feature in CCleaner frequently and 95% of the time elect not to back up the changes. I have never had a problem doing things that way.
Unless you're an expert at cleaning the registry, the safest thing to do is to NOT clean the registry.
Hi!
A few hours ago I downloaded 'CCleaner' to see, what's the better choice: 'CCleaner' or 'Sweepi'. After installing 'CCleaner' I run it and after that running 'Defraggler' (for MS-Defrag is s..t).
After the restart of the system (XP) I ran 'Sweepi' and that saved 10 MB extra space! ;D
BTW: I missed starting a Registry-backup in 'CCleaner', 'Sweepi' asks before starting!
I tried 'Sweepi' on my Windows 7 system and it removed so much stuff that I had to restore my system to its last backup. >:(
I will stick to CCleaner from now on as it has never had had that problem! 8)
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I use the registry cleaning feature in CCleaner frequently and 95% of the time elect not to back up the changes. I have never had a problem doing things that way.
Unless you're an expert at cleaning the registry, the safest thing to do is to NOT clean the registry.
Hi!
A few hours ago I downloaded 'CCleaner' to see, what's the better choice: 'CCleaner' or 'Sweepi'. After installing 'CCleaner' I run it and after that running 'Defraggler' (for MS-Defrag is s..t).
After the restart of the system (XP) I ran 'Sweepi' and that saved 10 MB extra space! ;D
BTW: I missed starting a Registry-backup in 'CCleaner', 'Sweepi' asks before starting!
I tried 'Sweepi' on my Windows 7 system and it removed so much stuff that I had to restore my system to its last backup. >:(
I'd never had a problem like that during several years (in the meantime) on 7 computers.
Didn't you correct the settings?
I'm really very sorry about that. :(
HDW38
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Didn't you correct the settings?
There's the big difference. In Ccleaner you're safe if you leave the default settings. :)
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craigb,
I'm wanting to do the uninstall of MSE and am encouraged by the rapidity with which you say it can be done. But is that when MSE is the only antivirus program on the pc?
Remember, I also have avast free AV on my pc. Do you think it could take longer given that fact? Or could avast also being on the pc present a removal problem?
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1. I'm wanting to do the uninstall of MSE and am encouraged by the rapidity with which you say it can be done. But is that when MSE is the only antivirus program on the pc?
2. Remember, I also have avast free AV on my pc. Do you think it could take longer given that fact? Or could avast also being on the pc present a removal problem?
1. No, it doesn't mind.
2. No - for both questions.
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Ok--I uninstalled MSE via the Add/Remove Programs. Then I clicked on the link from craigb given to me in Reply #17, page 2, and chose Run.
It said the name of the file is MicrosoftFixit50535.msi and the Type is Windows Installer Package and that it's from download.microsoft.com.
How did that help with uninstalling MSE if it's an Installer package?
Am I supposed to do something with it now?
Since I chose "Run" did it do whatever it was supposed to do in relation to an uninstaller tool (per craigb) already?
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1. Ok--I uninstalled MSE via the Add/Remove Programs.
2. Am I supposed to do something with it now?
1. Good. :)
2. Just ignore it until further notice.
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Ok--I uninstalled MSE via the Add/Remove Programs. Then I clicked on the link from craigb given to me in Reply #17, page 2, and chose Run.
It said the name of the file is MicrosoftFixit50535.msi and the Type is Windows Installer Package and that it's from download.microsoft.com.
How did that help with uninstalling MSE if it's an Installer package?
Am I supposed to do something with it now?
Since I chose "Run" did it do whatever it was supposed to do in relation to an uninstaller tool (per craigb) already?
Thank you, Asyn, but could you or someone explain what I asked about in relation to the link mentioned. I would like to understand, please.
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Thank you, Asyn, but could you or someone explain what I asked about in relation to the link mentioned. I would like to understand, please.
As said, ignore it for now. You most probably won't need it at all.
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It's only a describtion of the file you want to download. Don't worry!
DJBone
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.msi files are applications that will detect the OS on the machine and run the correct version for either 32 or 64 bit installs. .exe files are usually specific to either 32 or 64 bit.
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Am I supposed to do something with it now?
Since I chose "Run" did it do whatever it was supposed to do in relation to an uninstaller tool (per craigb) already?
It is an installer package for the program you were about to run ( MicrosoftFixit ), its very quick so if you told it to run then your finished and can run CCLeaner, if you only ran the clean tool and not saved it then it'll be removed from tempory files with CCleaner ( if you saved it then you can delet it ) After all that reboot :)
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Thanks so much for the detailed replies that explain things I asked about. Now I understand more.
By the way, I started this thread by asking if I needed to disable avast when I ran a Defrag. At that time when I ran a Defrag "Analyze," it said the system needed to be defragged.
But I waited to defrag when I found out that I should delete MSE so as not to have 2 AVs on the pc. So after asking a million questions and getting such wonderful help from all of you, I finally DL'd CCleaner, uninstalled MSE, and ran the uninstaller tool. Then I used CCleaner for general cleaning (I have not used it for registry cleaning, as I'm too hesitant about that yet. I may do so in the future if I feel more confident about it. But as bob 3160 says, the safest thing to do is not to clean the registry when you don't know what you're doing.)
Anyway, I then ran another "Analyze" to see about defragging, and it now says the system does not need to be defragged!! So does that mean that doing all of the above realligned files on the disk enough to change the need to defrag???
Also, some day I may switch from Spybot to SuperAntiSpyware as advised. But I need to move onto other activities now, so that will have to wait.
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Anyway, I then ran another "Analyze" to see about defragging, and it now says the system does not need to be defragged!! So does that mean that doing all of the above realligned files on the disk enough to change the need to defrag???
Also, some day I may switch from Spybot to SuperAntiSpyware as advised. But I need to move onto other activities now, so that will have to wait.
The analyzing wont show that the disk needs to be defragged until the disk is at least 15% fragmented with the default windows defragger, wont hurt to run it anyway.
You dont really need either ( Spybot, SuperAntiSpyware ) if you already have Malwarebytes for backup scans.
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The analyzing wont show that the disk needs to be defragged until the disk is at least 15% fragmented with the default windows defragger, wont hurt to run it anyway.
Hi!
After you defragmented with the 'default Windows defragger', you should try to get information to download 'defraggler' here: --> http://www.piriform.com/defraggler
If you (after having downloaded) want to install, you are asked during installation to substitute 'windows defrag'. Answer 'NO' and after installation is complete, run 'Defraggler'. You'll see the difference!
Try it, you'll be astonished.
HDW38