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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2012, 03:11:11 PM »
Where did you download Defraggler from ? if you got it from the vendors site "Piriform" there should be no problem

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2012, 03:20:58 PM »
Where did you download Defraggler from ? if you got it from the vendors site "Piriform" there should be no problem

http://www.piriform.com  That's where I downloaded it.   I would post the red popup but can't remember how to do that. 

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2012, 03:32:23 PM »
Right click on the avast ball and click show last popup, then you can use whatever screen shot tool you have, when posting use the "Attachments and other options" below where you compose the post.

Even a discription of the detection and what shield alerted would be helpful.
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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2012, 06:21:23 PM »
I downloaded Defraggler again but this time from CNet.  It's running right now but shows that it's going to take 1 day.  Does it really take that long?

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2012, 06:30:32 PM »
I downloaded Defraggler again but this time from CNet.  It's running right now but shows that it's going to take 1 day.  Does it really take that long?
Mine says that to for the first couple of minutes then it drops to hours then minutes ( also depends on how fragmented the HD is ), the first scan with defraggler might take a little longer than consecutive scans as it will be putting things in order on its first run, you can also set it to run automatically once a week if you like just to keep the hard drive frequintly defraged

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2012, 07:01:29 PM »
Go to college and earn a degree as a systems engineer and you can. We can all benefit from each other. I watched your video Bob. It's time to join the real world and not be stuck in the past. Issues with Norton sucking the life out of your machine were addressed back on 2009. Norton products are now veryight. Using a mere 15-20MB.
I suggest that you leave your arrogance on another forum. It has no business on this one.  >:(
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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2012, 07:42:44 PM »
I downloaded Defraggler again but this time from CNet.  It's running right now but shows that it's going to take 1 day.  Does it really take that long?
Mine says that to for the first couple of minutes then it drops to hours then minutes ( also depends on how fragmented the HD is ), the first scan with defraggler might take a little longer than consecutive scans as it will be putting things in order on its first run, you can also set it to run automatically once a week if you like just to keep the hard drive frequintly defraged

It just now finished.  I have it set to defrag everyday but will chance that to once a week.

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2012, 08:08:22 PM »
Same goes Bob. If you can't hang with the Big Dogs then stay on the porch.

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2012, 08:14:49 PM »

It just now finished.  I have it set to defrag everyday but will chance that to once a week.
Once a week is plenty enough :)

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2012, 08:27:58 PM »
Same goes Bob. If you can't hang with the Big Dogs then stay on the porch.
I dont know how you've come to the conclusion that you one of the big dogs as your a newby to this forum and a noob at best going by your previous posts and the manner in which you say you help others with infected systems clearly shows lack of experience and knowledge as malware removal takes alot more than redirecting people to outdated links in other forums, your a small fish in a sea of sharks here and it would be very wise for you to pay more respect to members here in future as your walking on a very thin line.

This would be your first warning

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2012, 11:14:41 PM »
Same goes Bob. If you can't hang with the Big Dogs then stay on the porch.
I dont know how you've come to the conclusion that you one of the big dogs as your a newby to this forum and a noob at best going by your previous posts and the manner in which you say you help others with infected systems clearly shows lack of experience and knowledge as malware removal takes alot more than redirecting people to outdated links in other forums, your a small fish in a sea of sharks here and it would be very wise for you to pay more respect to members here in future as your walking on a very thin line.

This would be your first warning

No where did I break ANY rules. No where in the forum rules does it say "essexboy is the ONLY helper of malware removal". Till it does your warning is meaningless. Thanks. Have a great day. FYI................Bleepingcomputers is a top notch malware removal forum. The advice I linked to would solve the issue sooner and faster then using OTL. That is as long as it was an FBI scareare infection which was clearly stated by the thread topic.

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2012, 06:56:44 AM »
The advice I linked to would solve the issue sooner and faster then using OTL. That is as long as it was an FBI scareare infection which was clearly stated by the thread topic.
I see your arrogance knows no boundries ::)

As i mentioned earlyer essexboy is not the only helper, we have several here and there all fully qualified which you are not.
As essexboy mentioned to you earlyer in that thread the malware has changed so the link you posted would not have worked anyway, this is where being a trained malware specialist has it's advantages and your knowledge of such has it's disadvantages, we only let trained specialists work on and give advice to users with issues as the wrong advice ( hence yourself ) could be seriously detrimental to there systems.

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2012, 12:54:45 PM »
Issues with Norton sucking the life out of your machine were addressed back on 2009.

Well,I can counter cross that statement.In All Honesty,I had Norton 2011/2012 on this Laptop earlier and they were sucking away by CPU after a couple of weeks for no reason on the earth.Symantec still has this problem with their products.I also have some clients here who had same problems...and yeah they are not light as avast! they use about 40 to 50 MB of my ram which is unacceptable for me even with a 3GB Ram anything over 25 to 30MB is perfectly unacceptable and no light in my tastes...and yeah being a system engineer doesnt mean you are a expert at malware removal like essexboy or anybody...Malware Removal needs time for practice.Nobody learns that quickly in a day..Also needs a ton of observation of how people like essex and others use tools out and how to get the right tool for the right infection and also you need a couple of infected VM's not real machines as you may wreck a machine many a time i Have myself wrecked Many VM's when practicing..Its a ever-learning process...My grandpa himself is a system engineer but guess what he is still unaware of most of the malware removal stuff even i got interested in malware removal since college and i am in it till now and this doesnt mean i have not wrecked machines in my whole removal business..I have Wrecked a couple of machines,a ton of VM's while practicing and a lot more to tell :-X..Maybe you could visit India and head over to my place if you wanted the testimonials.  ;D

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2012, 01:14:54 PM »
There is a good reason I did not recommend Puran. Yes I have tried it. Its very good. But once you perform a boot defrag its will delete ALL your system restore points. Its a bug that has been there for years which never gets fixed. Dont wanna recommend something then have someone complain that it deleted there restore points.

I suppose you are talking about the VSS issue. This is an old issue really, it started with Vista... All defraggers that use heavy file/folder placement optimization have this problem(too much data movement) in Vista and 7, assuming you have shadow copies turned on and using cluster sizes smaller than 16k. That is why the majority of them(defrag programs) have a special VSS compatible mode that minimizes data movement.

As for Puran, have a look at what the help file says:



http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;312067
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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2012, 01:19:59 PM »
Issues with Norton sucking the life out of your machine were addressed back on 2009.

Well,I can counter cross that statement.In All Honesty,I had Norton 2011/2012 on this Laptop earlier and they were sucking away by CPU after a couple of weeks for no reason on the earth.Symantec still has this problem with their products.I also have some clients here who had same problems...and yeah they are not light as avast! they use about 40 to 50 MB of my ram which is unacceptable for me even with a 3GB Ram anything over 25 to 30MB is perfectly unacceptable and no light in my tastes...and yeah being a system engineer doesnt mean you are a expert at malware removal like essexboy or anybody...Malware Removal needs time for practice.Nobody learns that quickly in a day..Also needs a ton of observation of how people like essex and others use tools out and how to get the right tool for the right infection and also you need a couple of infected VM's not real machines as you may wreck a machine many a time i Have myself wrecked Many VM's when practicing..Its a ever-learning process...My grandpa himself is a system engineer but guess what he is still unaware of most of the malware removal stuff even i got interested in malware removal since college and i am in it till now and this doesnt mean i have not wrecked machines in my whole removal business..I have Wrecked a couple of machines,a ton of VM's while practicing and a lot more to tell :-X..Maybe you could visit India and head over to my place if you wanted the testimonials.  ;D

Regards from Sunny India  ;)

Always Norton is a pain in the ass, im a junior IT technician. have you ever seen how slow your system goes when it is installed.

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I have done that too lol 8)

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You have a chance off defeating most malware in the but.

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