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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2012, 09:16:20 PM »

...  Windows 7 took 30 minutes with a 5% fragmentation. Smart Defrag took about 20 min. Both Ultra and Auslogics took about 12 min

You defrag with 5% ... ?  :)

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2012, 09:18:50 PM »

...  Windows 7 took 30 minutes with a 5% fragmentation. Smart Defrag took about 20 min. Both Ultra and Auslogics took about 12 min

You defrag with 5% ... ?  :)

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2012, 11:58:35 PM »
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Otaku Ichise iv never had any problems with Defraggler not scanning the second harddrive of either of my systems which both include twin 500Gb drives plus a 1.5Tb and 3Tb external drives, is there some link you can provide to this if a known problem or does it only happen on your system.

http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=34995

http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=33887

This seems to hapen to only 2TB Drives or higher External Hard Drives, this issue been going on for a while
and not sure if my laptop 2nd internal HDD being WD can cause read error (but like i said rarely does it)
not sure whats causing the bug, maybe cause defraggler have the sensor temperature reading that can cause the error, no longer sure lol

Hum and people i wouldnt schedule defragmentation, defraging your HDD all time will only take its life time and i find uncessary at least for me,
defrag normaly should be done 1 time or rarely, a quick defrag should be enough sometimes and then defrag the few left manualy.
Theres definitly no need to make a deep defrag every time lol. (lets not fuel the linux fanboys users ego, been fighting those unix fanboys for a while)

Also have pagefile set on 2nd hdd min/max set to 1gb so i dont see fragmentation here eitheir.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:03:39 AM by Otaku Ichise »

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2012, 12:03:02 AM »
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Theres definitly no need to make a deep defrag every time lol.
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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2012, 12:07:22 AM »

...  Windows 7 took 30 minutes with a 5% fragmentation. Smart Defrag took about 20 min. Both Ultra and Auslogics took about 12 min

You defrag with 5% ... ?  :)

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5% is recommended to defrag at. Most 3rd party defraggers will tell you and recommend to defrag at 5% of more. Nothing wrong with it. Defrag at 5%. Once a month defrag and optimize. Keep in mind that the 5% was for testing procedures as clearly indicted in my post.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:17:56 AM by Aventador »

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2012, 12:14:25 AM »
Here is the error attached, probably gessing a bug on hardware temperature sensor.

Edit: forgot to disable windows 7 defrag schedule lol..., going to reinstall defraggler and try again lol
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:54:10 AM by Otaku Ichise »

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2012, 12:22:17 AM »
That is not a defrag error. I would ignore it all honesty. If you want to really test your hard drives speed then use this. You dont need to disable it. Just unecheck the scheduler. Also thats your "D" drive. Windows is not installed on your D but installed on C. Did you partition your HDD? Also is this an SSD? If it is an SSD you don't need to defrag it. Or do you have 2 hard drives?
http://www.hdtune.com/
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:32:47 AM by Aventador »

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2012, 12:34:10 AM »
That is not a defrag error. I would ignore it all honesty. If you want to really test your hard drives speed then use this. You dont need to disable it. Just unecheck the scheduler. Also thats your "D" drive. Windows is not installed on your D but installed on C. Did you partition your HDD?
http://www.hdtune.com/

Yes the OS is on "C" Drive and no i didnt partition it, it came pre installed by laptop manufactor and only removed Acer Bloatware lol.
"D" Drive only used for Backups/PageFile/ or anything else extra.

And your right nothing to worry about, i could still analyze, quick defrag and error goes away lol... small bug i gess?
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:38:06 AM by Otaku Ichise »

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2012, 12:38:28 AM »
Ok so now I know. Like most newer pc's yours is equipped with a recovery partition. You have a 1TB hard drive. C is for Windows and D is for the recovery partition. Correct me if I am wrong. If I am right then the error you are seeing is false cause you cannot defrag your recovery partition. Defraggler sees it as 2 drives and not one. Use Auslogics or Windows Defrag is you want. UltraDefrag is really good and portable. Defraggler also does not optimize files where as Auslogics does. UltraDefrag has all functions and it can also defrag your MFT. It will also perform a boot defrag. Try them both out.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:40:53 AM by Aventador »

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2012, 12:43:05 AM »
Ok so now I know. Like most newer pc's yours is equipped with a recovery partition. You have a 1TB hard drive. C is for Windows and D is for the recovery partition. Correct me if I am wrong. If I am right then the error you are seeing is false cause you cannot defrag your recovery partition. Defraggler sees it as 2 drives and not one. Use Auslogics or Windows Defrag is you want. UltraDefrag is really good and portable.

No this laptop realy got 2 Hard Drives (500gb x 2), i already opened laptop bottom door,
Laptop just 9 months old now, i think they will start doing this on all recent 17,3 sized Laptops. (1HDD for OS 1HDD for Backup)

Its realy a small bug, i switch on both hdd,s in defragler and error goes away showing temp and everything properly.
Thanks for the support Aventador.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:48:56 AM by Otaku Ichise »

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2012, 12:47:58 AM »
Ok my bad...............2 HDD very cool. Are they SSD's?

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2012, 12:49:45 AM »
Ok my bad...............2 HDD very cool. Are they SSD's?

lol 500gb SSD? I WISH LOL just a 150gb one is freaky expensive hahaha.
If i remember a solid state drive max size so far is 300gb yet i think and hela expensive for that.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 12:51:32 AM by Otaku Ichise »

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Re: Defraggler alternatives?
« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2012, 12:52:13 AM »
Well I would ignore it Piriform got things right with CCleaner but I don't think Defraggler is up to par. Try Auslogics and get back to me. Not the max size of an SSD. I will look into that. Having 2 HDD's sweet. I have 1 750 on my Dell XPS. If your a true geek then you will like Ultra Defrag. Actually since your D drive is for backup and data there is no need to defrag it. Maybe once a year or so.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 02:17:35 AM by Aventador »