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Offline ManyQs

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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2012, 04:50:03 PM »
Could someone identify for me/us what the entity called SurveyMonkey is and what part they had in this?  Thank you.

In case you missed it, SurveyMonkey was noted in an earlier post by one of our members.  I meant to ask who they are, but let it slide off my radar screen.

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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2012, 05:38:11 PM »
They are the ones that actually collate the data of a survey, google will give you a lot more information.
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2012, 06:53:33 PM »
I think they should have re-opened the Off-Topic Forum and allowed the discussions in there.  ;D
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2012, 12:42:13 AM »
I think they should have re-opened the Off-Topic Forum and allowed the discussions in there.  ;D
I think they will never open it again...
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #49 on: November 09, 2012, 12:50:23 AM »
Hi Tech and bob3160,

The off topic, I agree with Tech, I have reason to believe it will stay in the realm of wishful thinking, not becoming reality,

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P.S. ManyQs, your user name means that these questions can be solved by using a search engine or even one visit of wikipedia's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey
Learn to search here: http://www.searchlores.org/indexo.htm

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« Last Edit: November 09, 2012, 12:54:06 AM by polonus »
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2012, 06:03:36 AM »
An old trick, polonus.  Patronize someone to make them go away. 

Or make them post something that allows management to lock the thread.  Very interesting.  I must have forgotten something, because I didn't recall you being that sort.

You really think I don't know how to use search engines?  You haven't seen me reference search engines in any of my previous posts?  Like I checked this site's search engine.  Or I checked that company's search engine.  You've never seen me write such like that?

Somehow I think you do know that I am fully cognizant of the value of search engines, but you suspected what my next question was going to be and you felt the nasty route was the way to thwart that next question. 

And you were right.  It's the old saying about a dog knowing whether he's been tripped over or kicked.

But that point about search engines allows me to offer a parting gift on this issue to those that wish to be proactive instead of reactive.  Stick this into your favorite search engine: "A few weeks ago, Thomas Goddard"

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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2012, 06:09:00 AM »
I think they should have re-opened the Off-Topic Forum and allowed the discussions in there.  ;D

Why would this go into an off-topic forum?  We're not allowed to asked for security safeguards from our security provider?  This is a topic/thread about something that Avast did, isn't it?  Are you so very sure, bob3160, what the Avast definition of "anonymous" is?

Off-topic, eh?

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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2012, 12:36:31 PM »
Wondering why this thread is still open since the election is over.  Some people still unhappy about the survey?

Edit..........None of my business so please ignore.
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2012, 03:44:03 PM »
Guys..."let it go"! Please  ;D
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2012, 04:00:18 PM »
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2012, 02:30:57 PM »
I think they should have re-opened the Off-Topic Forum and allowed the discussions in there.  ;D

Why would this go into an off-topic forum?  We're not allowed to asked for security safeguards from our security provider?  This is a topic/thread about something that Avast did, isn't it?  Are you so very sure, bob3160, what the Avast definition of "anonymous" is?

Off-topic, eh?

Simply because Politics where always discussed in the Off-Topic Forum when it was still in use.
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #57 on: November 10, 2012, 07:00:15 PM »
I don't consider this thread off topic, or about politics in any way shape or form. It is about whether or not avast! should have included an "off topic" pop-up advertisement within their product. It wasn't a pop-up promoting a paid version of their product, but rather a pop-up regarding an issue that has nothing to do with computer security. My interpretation of the definition of adware is a piece of software that displays unwanted and unsolicited advertisements. If I wanted my security product to ask me my personal opinion regarding US politics, then I would have asked them for such a feature.

All of this "off topic" talk is just a way for people to direct the discussion away from the actual issue, which is, is it acceptable for your security product to invade a users privacy simply because they can?

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Re: US Presidential Electioff the radar.on survey???
« Reply #58 on: November 10, 2012, 10:24:11 PM »
The answer to your question is very simple: NO
Not replying to the question and not completing the survey keeps your IP  off the radar.
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Re: US Presidential Election survey???
« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2012, 11:19:47 PM »
Hi ManyQs,

I am not a man of tricks, nor to patronize here. I am very well aware that the Internet can be used like a hammer. A hammer can sculpt beautiful things and also could provide for a means to ruin. Online tracking is going on in all sorts of hidden obfuscated ways and while the pay-model to deliver so-called free services like we find on the Internet is payed through/from revenues from selling users profile data in the broadest sense of the word, then this tracking can also be abused. One model is criminals trying to earn from fraudulent clicks, so-called malvertisers try to do this. There are more ways of abuse and that is dubious by design to say the least. As the larger part of the user community is not aware of what is going on under the hood of their user agent (e.g. browser) the methods are performed in a stealth way. Not everybody has the ability to analyze their browser session with Wireshark or has the means to make web beacons visible or an extension like Collusion to show what other sites share qua information from the main site. The average user just knows that there are cookies and how to delete them. We have cookie laws now in Europe. But the profilers do not care about cookies, because there are many, many other ways left to get a user profile. These data land on the desk of decision makers all the way and it could also be they are being used to influence consumer habits and in this case voter decisions (I presume the action was driven by enthusiastic voter(s) by their own initiative)

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P.S. And user tracking is going on vertially on all sites. The following site has a hidden iframe on it  and a pixel by pixel web beacon:
at http://cache2-styles.pressdisplay.com/res/en-us/g979/t85001273/images/1x1.gif
hxtp://chinadaily.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx  link from China Daily by NATASHA SINGER and CHARLES DUHIGG
The article rank is still gathering data in my browser  :D

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