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New customer support framework NOT good
« on: February 13, 2013, 09:27:00 PM »
I have been using, and recommending, Avast for more than a decade. A large part of that recommendation has been based on Alwil's adherence to ethical and straightforward business practices. I have become aware of a relatively recent change in that customer support has been contracted to an entity called "Bomgar," and this has NOT turned out to be a good move. I originally received a complaint from a single paid user whom I support, but after cursory inquiries of others have received complaints from over a dozen paid users, all of whom have the following comments: (1) they've had to wait as long as a half hour just to get a connection with a tech; (2) when connected, the first thing the tech does is try to strong-arm them into giving the tech access to their machine, on the premise that "there are so many problems and errors on your machine!" that have to be fixed BEFORE they can help them (these machines are quite clean, BTW...I maintain them), (3) they are then coerced (so far unsuccessfully...they end up hanging up on the tech and calling me) into having the tech "clean" and "update" their machine BEFORE fixing the issue the person was calling for in the first place. In each instance of my knowledge, the "problem" was simply not using the new license key file correctly. It had nothing to do with the user's system. Fifteen seconds of honest assistance would have solved the "issue." Instead, these folks were subjected to a high-pressure, low-brow sort of hard sell that is generally looked upon by IT professionals like myself as a step above outright fraud. Why did you engage this entity? Do you have any oversight of them? Do you understand the damage to your company's reputation it is generating?

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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 09:52:22 PM »
How did you find out the company name.  I have asked them, and never recieved an answer.
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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 10:47:26 PM »
My client (the one who initially reported the issue to me) said that for the first ten minutes of the call, the tech would only refer to himself as being "from Avast customer support." It was only after some rather pointed and repetitive questioning that the tech gave up the name of "Bomgar" (with which my client was not familiar). However...Bomgar is essentially a large software company that sells remote-connect clients (similar to Logmein, etc.) and does not (at least to my knowledge) provide actual customer support. Other help desk entities use Bomgar as their platform. So...was this rep actually from Avast and using Bomgar, or from some third-party contractor using Bomgar, whom we still can't identify? Either way...needs cleaning up it would seem.

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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 12:30:58 AM »
I have asked the same question, multiple times, multiple callers, all were told avast! tech support in Prague.  I looked up Bomgar also, they do have some sort of technical support offereing, though I did not explore that any further.  I try to keep my customers from having to call, at all!
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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 04:35:30 PM »
You may want to contact the avast third party coordinator   nekvapil(at)avast(dot)com
State in detail your experiences. You might even post a link to this thread.  :)
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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 08:24:22 PM »
Thanks, Para-noid. Will do that.

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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 02:35:22 PM »
Hello,
I am sorry for any inconvenience caused. Could you please share with me phone number you have called, time and date of the call?
Also please send me in private message your email address so we can find your call and direct your complaint to the right person.

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I have been using, and recommending, Avast for more than a decade. A large part of that recommendation has been based on Alwil's adherence to ethical and straightforward business practices. I have become aware of a relatively recent change in that customer support has been contracted to an entity called "Bomgar," and this has NOT turned out to be a good move. I originally received a complaint from a single paid user whom I support, but after cursory inquiries of others have received complaints from over a dozen paid users, all of whom have the following comments: (1) they've had to wait as long as a half hour just to get a connection with a tech; (2) when connected, the first thing the tech does is try to strong-arm them into giving the tech access to their machine, on the premise that "there are so many problems and errors on your machine!" that have to be fixed BEFORE they can help them (these machines are quite clean, BTW...I maintain them), (3) they are then coerced (so far unsuccessfully...they end up hanging up on the tech and calling me) into having the tech "clean" and "update" their machine BEFORE fixing the issue the person was calling for in the first place. In each instance of my knowledge, the "problem" was simply not using the new license key file correctly. It had nothing to do with the user's system. Fifteen seconds of honest assistance would have solved the "issue." Instead, these folks were subjected to a high-pressure, low-brow sort of hard sell that is generally looked upon by IT professionals like myself as a step above outright fraud. Why did you engage this entity? Do you have any oversight of them? Do you understand the damage to your company's reputation it is generating?

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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 08:28:12 PM »
I have asked my client (the one who initially reported the issue to me) for that information...if he has it. I'll post/forward it to you as I receive it. The other dozen or so don't want to take the time to mess with it. They're already fed up.

E-mail is in this forum database.

« Last Edit: February 15, 2013, 08:44:58 PM by Firetree »

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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2013, 08:39:35 PM »
E-mail is ---------------- (can't you get that from this forum database?).

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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2013, 08:45:55 PM »
Good point, Asyn. That's what happens when I don't have my second cup of coffee... ;-)

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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2013, 06:58:17 PM »
The client reports that he called the posted US support number...(866) 951-7679 at around 11:00 Hawaii time on Feb 13th (that would be 21:00 UTC same date). However...this seems like it is more a policy issue than a whodunit.

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Re: New customer support framework NOT good
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 12:04:47 AM »
There was another thread started on this same subject today. Seems this problem is pervasive, and not being addressed. I am no longer recommending Avast paid version to any of my clients until it is resolved.

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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 01:49:23 AM »
Just FYI.