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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2012, 06:39:55 PM »
Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?

No.
Please uninstall MSE..!!

Personally, I uninstalled avast! a long time ago and use MSE and have removed avast! from many, many computers since and will continue to do so. avast! Way too intrusive on operating systems. Windows was built under the Microsoft model. Not avast!'s.

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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2012, 06:42:12 PM »
Personally, I uninstalled avast! a long time ago and use MSE and have removed avast! from many, many computers since and will continue to do so. avast! Way too intrusive on operating systems. Windows was built under the Microsoft model. Not avast!'s.

Well, do as you like.
Good luck then. ;)
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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2012, 06:46:48 PM »

Personally, I uninstalled avast! a long time ago and use MSE and have removed avast! from many, many computers since and will continue to do so. avast! Way too intrusive on operating systems. Windows was built under the Microsoft model. Not avast!'s.
Dont know what this has to do with the title of the thread  ??? and if you dont use avast anymore why are you here and bothering to troll posts ::)

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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2012, 06:52:23 PM »
Dont know what this has to do with the title of the thread  ??? and if you dont use avast anymore why are you here and bothering to troll posts ::)

He's promoting MSE... ::)
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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2012, 07:25:42 PM »
a check on his posts shows that hes a rude user who previously made assumptions based on the fact that he thinks avast is behaving maliciously on his system (even though the obvious fact is that it is at most a faulty install on his system). refusal to work with avast developers to help diagnose the problem.

most probably results in him being frustrated with avast (even though it is his own fault) and trying to take revenge since the last post in 2011 by trolling...
interesting how horrible some ppl are  ::)

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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2012, 07:34:40 PM »
There are always some people who have an agenda and need to vent.  :o

Good thing God gave us 2 ears just for these poor folks.  :)
In one ear and out the other.  ;D
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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2012, 08:22:22 PM »
My sincere apologies!  I think ... No, I know I misunderstood who was at the receiving end of some of the posts above.  I don't think I am involved in the new business at hand.  Again, I am sorry for not paying closer attention!

AND I should also make it clear that some of you probably didn't see what I first wrote here.  That above is a complete edit, because I was totally wrong in thinking some of the posts above were aimed at me.  I was in a hurry and just assumed you were refering to me.  I didn't know some new business was at hand.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2012, 08:44:28 PM by ManyQs »

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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2012, 08:26:49 PM »
Actually the web site has been valuable in diagnosing and comparing symtoms on the equipment of folks who choose the software and want to keep it. That's not trolling. And I've also noted in previous communications that avast! is actually a good product. Of course that was long before all of the unneeded bloat was configured into the standard. Google Chrome, webrep, and some others. And opinions vary so scribble what you wish.

As far as any opinions on what I assume, please understand that just because someone sits on a forum endlessly reciting the old uninstall and reinstall gag everytime someone's computer gets fudged up with this thing doesn't make you a developer . If I believe ( based on genuine experience) that a "developer"  ::) doesn't have any idea what they are talking about then I'll usually make that view known so that they understand that they aren't addressing the average user who would blindly follow the herd.

So, not rude. A realist.

And my computer never gets messed up, btw. Never. At least it hasn't in many years. Regardless of software, it's how the user manages their hardware and surfing habits that premise how well it functions. So if I'm discussing an issue it's usually regarding some other poor souls problems after just hitting the gimme, gimme, gimme buttons and tick boxes.

I will leave you with the fact that I have seen very, very few general pc problems from users of MSE than that of avast! users. Think what you wish. I really don't care.

A simple peek at the threads should reinforce the notion.

It's software, folks. Nobody is out for "revenge". If a software assumes the role of the users logic and it impedes progress in return for some model of growth then you uninstall it. Simple. You find what works for you. And when you do then you'll be of the more informed position to comprehend what "testing" truly means in a room full of self proclaimed "developers" who are only moved by the market share.
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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2012, 09:03:09 PM »
My experience with avast! and Windows Defender

I initially purchased a license for avast! AIS in the summer of 2010.  I had been using the free version of avast! for few  months before that.   When I purchased my first Windows 7 computer I left Windows Defender, which was only a anti-spyware program at the time, enabled on each of my network computers.   Eventually I added SAS Pro.   Everything worked fine.

During this period I set up my own personal avast! configuration, created numerous scans which I ran frequently. 

Between September and November I converted my entire home network to W8-DP.  avast! at that time was not compatible with W8-DP so I used W8-DP Windows Defender.  Windows Defender for W8 is a full fledged anti-malware program.   It also has very few setup options.   Maybe five at the most.    So it was basically a set once and forget about.   Indeed a lot less problem than the way I had previously used avast! AIS with all my personal tweaks.

Anyway when W8-CP came out I upgraded my network computers to W8-CP.   At this time I noticed a significant slow down in web-page loading using Firefox and a noticeable slowdown in file transfers across my network.   So much so that I decided to give avast! AIS 7 a try.  So I disabled WD since it can't be removed and installed AIS.

Why this long story?  I am coming to the reason. :)   Having noticed that WD for W8 provided very good protection without any user intervention or tweaks I decided to try the same thing with avast! AIS 7.   I decided to install it set a few options in the Setting menu and forget it.  No special scans.  No non special scans.  Nothing but just watch the orange ball occasionally rotate and an an occasional boot scan.

What I found is that avast! AIS 7 used as is out of the box (except for the few changes in Settings that I made) is not a bloated program with respect to memory usage.  It is a lot lighter on my systems than Windows Defender was and I have learned to trust running it basically as it came out of the box as it were.   Once a week I run some on-demand scans with Malwarebytes, Norman, McAfee stinger etc just in case.  So far they have found nothing.

P.S.  I do not use "Safe Zone".

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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2012, 11:51:31 PM »
As I've said before, I had some severe problems with MSE that made me dump it in favor of avast! The problems were all on the Vista Home Basic machine and were things that the main user would not have been able to deal with. There have been zero  problems on any of the computers here using either the free version or the full AIS package. I am a big fan of Microsoft and will always use their offerings to do specific things before trying alternatives. I use IE, WMP, Windows Mail, Outlook Express, Word, Excel, etc. but MSE is the only Microsoft product I was completely disappointed with.  I don't use any of the Windows Live apps but that's just preference since they all work and do what they're supposed to.
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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2012, 04:27:50 AM »
Documentation is all over the internet if you do a search and is widely common knowledge, you do not install two antiviruses on the same system, disabled or not.

+1.

Only one  AV on any computer at any time.  You can check with other on-line scanners, or use the Free or Paid version of Malware Bytes Anti-Maleare, which is NOT an AV with Avast OR MSE.  (But not both!)  One AV, either Avast or MSE has to be removed to avoid conflict.  Obviously, since this is an Avast forum, we are favorable to Avast for it's several times a day updates, cloud protection, Boot-Time Scan, Optional Web-Rep and Phishing Filter, which MSE does not have.

The only thing good about MSE is there is no license key required.  You install it, and forget it.  But the updates aren't as frequent as Avast along with the other things above.

However, you must only have one AV on your machine.

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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2012, 06:04:28 PM »
I want to thank all the in-the-know people on this thread; the information helped me
to realize about the conflict between the two.  For me, the issues started when Avast!
updated its version, so I turned off real-time protection.  Eventually even that wasn't
good enough, so I chose Avast over MSE.  The main thing is pick one or the other,
though on this website we would lean quite a bit toward Avast.  And, thanx again to all!

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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2012, 06:38:37 PM »
I want to thank all the in-the-know people on this thread; the information helped me
to realize about the conflict between the two.  For me, the issues started when Avast!
updated its version, so I turned off real-time protection.  Eventually even that wasn't
good enough, so I chose Avast over MSE.  The main thing is pick one or the other,
though on this website we would lean quite a bit toward Avast.  And, thanx again to all!
And hopefully removed MSE using the removal tool from:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/securitytipstalk/archive/2010/10/29/how-to-uninstall-microsoft-security-essentials.aspx
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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2012, 10:02:57 PM »
I want to thank all the in-the-know people on this thread; the information helped me
to realize about the conflict between the two.

You're welcome.
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Re: Can Avast! Pro co-exist with MS Security Essentials?
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2013, 02:13:33 PM »
There's no a software that allows various antivirus? I am not speaking only about MS Security Essentials and Avast!Pro, I am thinking about AVs. Even if antivirus are not in your PC.