The more I think about it, the more I realize that I very rarely use the Start menu in Win7 and actually avoid it as much as possible. All of my most used programs (about 30 of them) have icons on the desktop and I have always liked that better. Maybe the "Metro" interface wouldn't be that bad at all if it can be easily used with a mouse. I also only have one thing, IE, pinned to the task bar because I don't like having things permanently there. I like the desktop icon way so maybe the tiles in Win8 would be good.