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Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« on: May 14, 2005, 07:58:30 AM »
I just got an idea about something.
We all know the problem when some other program like emule.exe triggers Internet Mail scanner (so you get tray icon) and after that usually a timeout error?
Would it be possible to use same OptIn method as for Web Shield?
So you exclude problematic programs that have nothing to do with emails?

For example you could exclude scanning of traffic transmited by emule.exe which causes problems with Internet Mail provider for quiet some time.
You just exclude emule.exe for port 25 and 110 (+IMAP port). Voila.
Shouldn't be too hard since it's very similar to Web Shield OptIn,but this one would control Internet Mail provider.
Just don't make it for selectable range of email clients,but make apps like emule.exe to be excluded only.

What do you think?
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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2005, 08:44:16 AM »
As a life long "techie" I understand and sympathize with the attractiveness of this idea.

As a more recent supporter of "regular software users" I have to agree with a recent post that said, if I may summarize, "why should we have to configure our anti-virus software?".

Tough though it may be ... I think that the ultimate winners will be those who can best determine the configuration of a user and best configure their software to work automatically with that user's configuration.  "Regular users" are not going to be interested in whines about how difficult that is. 

Do you want to be the techie's darling or the the most adopted solution of the mass of users? 

To quote a military organization's motto "Who dares wins". 
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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2005, 09:07:42 AM »
Actually this one has nothing to do with configuration. It's a compatibility feature.
But yeah,i agree that it's the best if you find the balance between functionality and out-of-the-box features.
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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2005, 01:50:31 PM »
The problem with the best settings out of the box is they can never cater for the non-standard use of email ports for downloads by some p2p programs and probably shouldn't try.

So it is as RejZoR said a compatibility issue with programs not conforming to standards rather than try to configure avast for regular usage. Exclusions in this case to my mind are not a configuration tool but a conflict resolution tool.

So, until avast's mail scanner started responding to non standard use of the email ports the p2p user would have been none the wiser about the non-standard use of his out of the box settings of his chosen p2p program ;D

So, this out of the box is a double edged sword and program writers should conform to internet standards (where they exist) in their default settings and out of the box experience.
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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2005, 09:43:25 PM »
So you exclude problematic programs that have nothing to do with emails?
You just exclude emule.exe for port 25 and 110 (+IMAP port).
Well, most probably I'm wrong as you know more than me in this things, but I thought the value
IgnoreProcess=emule.exe into the [MailScanner] section of avast4.ini file should do this...  ::)
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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2005, 11:02:45 AM »
.. I thought the value IgnoreProcess=emule.exe into the [MailScanner] section of avast4.ini file should do this...  ::)

Exactly and moreover the emule.exe process is excluded by default.

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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2005, 05:01:12 PM »
For how long it is excluded?
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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2005, 12:27:40 AM »
For how long it is excluded?

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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2005, 07:16:10 AM »
Hm,then it must be something else. Some guy from my local forums has a problem with Internet Mail tray icon appearing while there is no actual mail scanned.
I'll check it out whick programs is he using.
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Re: Internet Mail OptIn mode idea
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2005, 11:27:35 AM »
Could it be that it was scanning NNTP traffic at that time?