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Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« on: October 04, 2013, 05:37:22 PM »



Goodbye Microsoft Security Essentials: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third-Party Antivirus
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In an interview with Dennis Protection Labs, Holly Stewart, the senior program manager
of the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, said that Microsoft Security Essentials was just
a “baseline” that’s designed to “always be on the bottom” of antivirus tests.
She said Microsoft sees MSE as a first layer of protection and advises Windows users to
use a third-party antivirus instead.

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For average users — not geeks who can get by with the minimum protection — we’d recommend avast! Free Antivirus.



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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2013, 05:41:54 PM »
Goodbye Microsoft Security Essentials: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third-Party Antivirus

Finally... ;D
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2013, 06:25:23 PM »
Hi Asyn and bob3160,

Does this also imply that Windows Defender is so minimalistic it is not worth running it.
I always performed the Windows Defender scan as an additional ritual, bur what is the use of that?

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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2013, 06:38:18 PM »
Hi Asyn and bob3160,

Does this also imply that Windows Defender is so minimalistic it is not worth running it.
I always performed the Windows Defender scan as an additional ritual, bur what is the use of that?

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I think you answered your own question. :)
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2013, 06:40:18 PM »
Pol, Windows Defender gets the same spyware definitions that are released for MSE so just comparing the spyware side of things they would be equal, also remember that Defender ( XP, Vista, Win7 ) has always been advised on this forum and others to delete or disable because of it's poor detection rate and waste of resources.

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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2013, 08:17:21 PM »
1. Does this also imply that Windows Defender is so minimalistic it is not worth running it.
2. I always performed the Windows Defender scan as an additional ritual, bur what is the use of that?

1. Absolutely..!! Drop it.
2. Zero.
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2013, 08:25:43 PM »
Microsoft finally figured out what everyone else already knew.  ::) ;D
And they say artificial intelligence does not exist.  ;D
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2013, 09:48:01 PM »
Microsoft finally figured out what everyone else already knew.  ::) ;D
And they say artificial intelligence does not exist.  ;D
Artificial intelligence has always been right on the money.
It's the Human Intelligence that sometimes seems to go on holiday..... :)
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2013, 10:35:45 PM »
Hi bob3160,

Thanks for making us all aware of these facts,

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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2013, 10:59:08 PM »
Hi bob3160,

Thanks for making us all aware of these facts,

polonus
My pleasure. I have quite a few people in Computer User Groups throughout this country who keep me informed of this type of news.
One of the nice byproducts of doing the Avast sponsored security presentations. :)
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2013, 02:15:16 AM »
Quite a turnaround by Microsoft. I'm sure this will be a shock to many people.

From the beginning, I always found MSE very slow and heavy on resources.
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2013, 03:31:43 AM »
From the beginning, I always found MSE very slow and heavy on resources.
I just barely had my 1st and only ... and very brief experience with MSE recently when I was having computer problems that seemingly pointed to avast.  I tried MSE for only around 3 days.  Wooooooo!  Yes, it is noticeably slow in the regular course of things.  But, in a manual FULL Scan, it was super, mega, ultra, ridiculously Ssssss SLOW!!!  At the end of 30 minutes, as per where the progress bar was, I calculated that it looked like it was going to take 8 hours to complete at the rate it was going. 

So, I aborted the Full Scan and uninstalled MSE right then and there.

Yadi Yadi Yada ... after then not being able to even get Avira to install properly ... I finally threw my hands up and desperately performed a Windows Reinstall System Recovery.  My computer then worked properly again.  Man oh man am I glad to be back to avast!
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2013, 07:26:33 AM »
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2013, 07:37:36 AM »
Goodbye Microsoft Security Essentials: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third-Party Antivirus

Finally... ;D

Aman! ;D and let's all have a drink in peace ;)
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Re: Microsoft Now Recommends You Use a Third Party Antivirus
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2013, 04:20:07 PM »
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Microsoft: Security Essentials is designed to be bottom of the antivirus rankings
;D We seriously need a ROFLMAO Emoticon to do that comment justice.

That reminded me of a guy way back in Electronics school.  Since he wasn't doing very well at all, he used to nonchalantly go, "Ehhh, I only shoot for 50% on the Tests."  We used to ask, "And what are you going to do about the 50% that you DON'T know?  ;D

Hopefully Microsoft doesn't up and declare one day that Windows is DESIGNED to be at the bottom of the OS rankings.
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