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Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« on: January 10, 2014, 04:31:27 AM »
As phones have had 1080p displays for quite some time now, I'm glad to see the bigger displays get a higher resolution standard. The 2014 CES has shown that more 2160p displays will become available and cheaper later this year.

IIRC, there was a $799 USD 28'' 2160p monitor announced at the CES, with a different company offering a 50'' 2160p tv for $200 more. The bigger 4k tvs seem to get incredibly expensive.

I expect 2160p to become (much) cheaper within the next 2 years, but would you make the 4k jump now? Sooner or later it will become standard, and most consumers will be able to afford it (and want to "upgrade"), just like "HD" TVs, etc.

Also: Do you think the higher pixel density will help the future's eyes? Wouldn't they have to see further to recognize the pixels, in a sense? Thus, this advancement in technology would change the theory of "worsened sight via electronic screens", no?

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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2014, 08:01:56 AM »
No big rush to change to a 4k TV yet, once the media has caught up and televised shows and movies start being released with the ability to make use of the higher resolution then it might be time to think about one, that's my take on it anyway :)

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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2014, 08:10:45 AM »
Actualy, no  :) I have read somewhere (if talking about phones), that at 5inch humans eye can't see already the real the difference between 710P and 1080P. So it may be actual only for big TV's. But there is nothing to watch. Blu Ray is max 1080P and I have only 3 HD channels on my TV available, so no big rush  ::)

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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2014, 10:50:41 AM »
No, my TV is 8 years old now, and with the utter ( constantly repeated ) garbage available , I see no point in changing it.

TV in the UK is so dire now that I am seriously considering getting rid of the thing anyway.

We are served up the same drivel many times a day, so the license fee is an insult.

I am near 60 now, and they are showing stuff that I came home from school to watch ...... it hasn't got any better even if it has been digitally remastered.

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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 12:14:59 PM »
Actualy, no  :) I have read somewhere (if talking about phones), that at 5inch humans eye can't see already the real the difference between 710P and 1080P. So it may be actual only for big TV's. But there is nothing to watch. Blu Ray is max 1080P and I have only 3 HD channels on my TV available, so no big rush  ::)

I can see the difference. And it can annoy me. Same as I can see the pixels on the screen. Quite literally. I'd probably get the 2180p TV's when they are cheaper
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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2014, 02:06:40 PM »
Well currently even 1080p doesn't have that many channels on the UK freeview channels, most are 720p and that quality on a 32" TV is more than acceptable. There would likely to be even fewer 2160p channels available and there may need to be some infrastructure changes to broadcast in 2160p. So I think it is some way off before there is sufficient media available to even be worth buying a so called 4K TV.

The larger the screen the larger the room you need to have it in as there is an optimum viewing distance, and much more than 32" in my living room would feel like I'm sitting right in front of it with some of these 55" monsters.

When you talk of PC Monitors, that is a different ball game, for some considerable time I have been looking for a 2560 x 1440 monitor 27" or 29" otherwise everything is much smaller and you need to tweak the windows settings to be able to read anything. But they are still expensive, so for now I will have to put up with my 1920 X 1200 monitor.

There are some new monitors as CES - Digimate launches 27in 2,560 x 1,440 pixels IPS monitor for £320 which for an IPS screen isn't bad, added to the additional pixel count. They have also launched a 29" and 30" monitor. I have used Digimate monitors in the past and they haven't be that bad, reasonable value for money and no dead pixels. So hopefully these will come down in the not to distant future.
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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2014, 09:06:03 PM »
Planing to go 4k when Intel broadwell is out and ddr4

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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2014, 10:38:30 PM »
Hi all,

Actualy, no  :) I have read somewhere (if talking about phones), that at 5inch humans eye can't see already the real the difference between 710P and 1080P. So it may be actual only for big TV's. But there is nothing to watch. Blu Ray is max 1080P and I have only 3 HD channels on my TV available, so no big rush  ::)
I agree with Alan. When comparing a 720p phone to a 1080p phone, I can immediately see the difference. :) Sometimes I can see the little curve dots that make up the icons, even if they're really tiny, on my HTC One (468 pixels per inch).

As we own a family "TV", but don't pay for television service, I do not know how newer shows look as of now, but these 2160p tvs should feature better up-scaling, or so I've heard. Although not the prettiest alternative to watching a lower-res original, it could get the job done..

The 16:10 equivalent of 2160p should be 2400p afaik. As I (really, really) loved my 16:10 (1440x900) monitor (and I was quite surprised as to how different 16:9 was), I am greatly considering a 3840x2400 monitor once the price goes down. Preferably < 40 inches for usability and to preserve the ppi ratio, even if it's still low compared to phone standards. As Pondus showed, 8k should allow bigger monitors/tvs to have an even higher ppi.

The monitor would allow me to handle bigger designs with ease. Since 4 1080p displays can fit into one 2160p display, we could also see a new program that allocates 4 virtual desktops on one screen.

I'm not sure about watching television on a big 2160p screen just yet, but it will come in the future. Modern consumers may not think about a 2160p display until 2015/2016/2017? But regardless, this means that the expensive now will become more affordable in the future!

Toshiba has already announced some 2160p laptops for Fall 2014. Could this be the start of 1080p laptops becoming standard? Won't the already-existing 1440p laptops become cheaper?

And: Regarding the flexible 4k displays... when will we have a touchscreen flexible 4k display? Or is there already a prototype? ;)

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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2014, 11:52:20 PM »
I have been using 16:10 format for some time the extra vertical height helps on long documents/sites.

Dreaming of a 16:10 WQXGA monitor format is 2560 X 1600 pixels the 30" DGM IPS-3004WPH LED Pro IPS Monitor - this would be absolutely great, but having just been released it is massively expensive at around £700. So still a distant dream.
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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2014, 07:50:34 PM »
We have no plans yet of upgrading to 4k anytime soon. We just bought a 40" and 24" 1080p HDTV last year. There is no digital free TV here in the Philippines yet until january 1, 2016. HD boxes offered by cable/satellite companies are expensive.

Internet is where I get most of my viewing content. I only use the TV to watch news and my favorite noontime show.

There are few videos that have UHD resolutions.
One more thing. UHDTVs (4K TVs) are very expensive here starting at P150,000 (about US $3400) because of annoying shipping taxes.

Well, that price is the same price of HDTVs when it first came out in the early 2000s so expect the price to go down to affordable levels in about five years.
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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2014, 11:14:31 PM »
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Well, that price is the same price of HDTVs when it first came out in the early 2000s so expect the price to go down to affordable levels in about five years.
Since technology advances at the speed of light, in 5 years I'm sure 4k will be totally outdated. :)
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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2014, 11:25:09 PM »
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Well, that price is the same price of HDTVs when it first came out in the early 2000s so expect the price to go down to affordable levels in about five years.
Since technology advances at the speed of light, in 5 years I'm sure 4k will be totally outdated. :)

In 5 years there might just be some 4k content on the TV channels.

The problem is the technology advances faster than the infrastructure. So the next big thing will be exactly where 4k is now, too damn expensive and no content.
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Re: Are you going 4k (2160p) this year?
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2014, 11:48:08 PM »
@David,
I guess we can look back on this topic in 5 years and see how all of this evolves. :)
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