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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 05:39:03 PM »


We obviously have some folks on here who would rather discuss Politics instead of Security.Security is a valid topic.... Politics is NOT  :o :o :o 
Can you imagine the reaction of many Russian users, if they read this "masterpiece" of advertising art?

If you have a problem with the video, complain to NBC, it belongs to them. :)
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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2014, 05:45:13 PM »
Bob, the problem is not with avast! Secure Line. It is with avast! Advertising Service.
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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2014, 05:46:55 PM »
We obviously have some folks on here who would rather discuss Politics instead of Security.
Security is a valid topic.... Politics is NOT :o :o :o

The only reason we are discussing what you call "politics" is because Avast chose a piece of political propaganda to build their advert on. Don't shoot the messenger for pointing out that flaw.

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2014, 06:00:15 PM »
This is something any and all advertisers do if it is in their interest(s).
When there are a number of break-ins in  a neighborhood security companies
are out there advertising their services. This is as old as the hills. If there is a need,
there will be someone willing to provide.

The argument can be made for "any" anti-virus software that, "the threat of computer infection is a common
problem so you need "our" protection".

Do I have a problem with this advertising? No!
If there is a need which can be filled then so be it.

This is about security and not advertising!
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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2014, 06:00:24 PM »
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Don't shoot the messenger for pointing out that flaw.
The problem is that the messengers interpretation is flawed.
Since this is not an avast but a political discussion and I don't think political discussions
have any business on this forum, I'll leave it up to Avast to deal with this thread.
I've already said enough. :)

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2014, 06:04:04 PM »
Hi Silviu C.

Are you a communication and media man?
You know how it works, they had a message and they had to find something to depict it.
It is not always original what they do.
I know of a site that borrows general copyright free pictures and then start to add a message inside with a program like PhotoShape etc.
See example attached.
It is all part of the character of communication & media on the Interwebs - momentary, casual, and fugacious.
This is not only avast! doing.

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 06:12:48 PM »
I don't care about how original or derivative their advertising material is.

What I take issue is that they took what I believe to be immoral content and built their advert on it. And Bob, this is about Avast and how they chose to build their advertising material.

Feel free to report me for whatever improper behaviour you think I'm guilty of, Bob.

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2014, 06:13:09 PM »
How can this be propaganda when the threat is very real?

It would be the same at any event of this magnitude in any venue.



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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2014, 06:17:51 PM »
How can this be propaganda when the threat is very real?

It would be the same at any event of this magnitude in any venue.

But that is not what the nice men in the video suggest now, is it? It's all about what can happen to you in Russia. Pay attention to the language they use.

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2014, 06:19:26 PM »
Because the Olympics are being held in Russia this year and they are informing people of the risks of their devices being hacked.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 06:21:41 PM by Charyb »

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2014, 06:21:55 PM »
They imply that what they say can happen only in Russia when, in fact, it can happen to you anywhere in the world provided that the same conditions are met.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 06:23:41 PM by Silviu C. »

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2014, 06:27:45 PM »
They imply that what they say can happen only in Russia when, in fact, it can happen to you anywhere in the world provided that the same conditions are met.
No, you imply. I am not seeing it and don't agree with this.

I did find it interesting that Kaspersky commented in this NBC news segment. Are they also scaremongers?
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 06:29:28 PM by Charyb »

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2014, 06:31:55 PM »
There is one other person on this thread that agrees, at least partially, with me on the poor choice made by the advertising team.

I did find it interesting that Kaspersky commented in this NBC news segment. Are they also scaremongers?

Are you asking this based on the fact that they were asked to comment or based on what they actually said?
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 06:35:52 PM by Silviu C. »

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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2014, 06:34:34 PM »
They imply that what they say can happen only in Russia when, in fact, it can happen to you anywhere in the world provided that the same conditions are met.
That is your assumption and you should know what happens when you assume.....
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Re: Immoral advertising
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2014, 06:37:19 PM »
They imply that what they say can happen only in Russia when, in fact, it can happen to you anywhere in the world provided that the same conditions are met.
That is your assumption and you should know what happens when you assume.....

I don't assume anything. That is what they say.

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Visitors to Russia can expect to be hacked

Yeah, ok
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 06:43:21 PM by Silviu C. »