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Read about this alpha extension here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/privacy-badger
blocks spying ads and invisable trackers.see: https://www.eff.org/privacybadger
Is it better than using Disconnect & Abine next to ABP?

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2014, 03:03:16 PM »
I'm not sure, if with my setup it would be much benefit - I also don't know if it may conflict with other similar tools.

As far as the "not honouring Do Not Track requests,"  doesn't the avast! Online Security (AOS) add-in have the do not track option that overrides the browser Do Not Track 'requests'

Tracking also requires a means of getting the information and transmitting it - for me NoScript, RequestPolicy and Cookie Monster would go a long way to combat tracking. Not allowing third party cookies in your browser settings should also be another string to your bow.

So do we really need another tool ?
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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2014, 03:18:37 PM »
Hi DavidR,

As it works expecting a voluntary privacy friendly response from trackers and ads servers,
it is questionable whether that initiative will really bring results towards a better privacy experience.

I am testing it now and at once lost RejZoR's avatar link here on the forums:
 http://files.myopera.com/rejzor/images/BACEK_SMILE.png
as it redirects:
http://files.myopera.com/rejzor/images/BACEK_SMILE.png redirects to http://www.opera.com/whereismyopera -
but my opera seems to have been closed since march 3rd 2014.
Maybe these two issues are not connected at all.

In due time I will report on the workings of the extension in Google Chrome and also about what is interesting to me,
whether it enhances security or not?

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2014, 04:10:25 PM »
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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2014, 04:28:11 PM »
Hi bob3160,

You cannot compare the two. Message was not meant for those on SecureLine.
Privacy Badger comes free, SecureLine costs 89,99 € per 2 years.

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2014, 05:44:34 PM »
I'm wondering how it will compare to PrivDog performance wise.  ???
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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2014, 06:30:45 PM »
Hi Para-Noid,

It is quite versatile and you can toggle to set it as you like via sliding.
ajax.googleapis.com  is given as green and unblocked, so allowed,  but one could slide it as to block it.
See attached. analytics from Comscore and Chartblead were being blocked.

On the google search page ssl.gstatic.com is unblocked and so comes allowed.
Why this is good for the end user one could read here: (used to provide release of user bandwith on Google searchpage),
read on this here:
http://superuser.com/questions/64716/i-regularly-see-gstatic-com-in-the-status-bar-what-is-that-domain
(posting link from Gnoupi, info credits go to Peter Montensen, Portman, Jeson Park & Jader Dias)

I think the extension really is improving user surfing experience,
at least it does not interfere with my ABP blocking and with the workings of Disconnect
Good EEF came up with this initiative anyway.

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2014, 09:53:02 PM »
I certainly won't test an alpha, maybe the beta. Let's see.
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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2014, 03:25:39 PM »
Well I tested and compared with other privacy extensions for this secure and safe site:
http://fetch.scritch.org/%2Bfetch/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebwereld.nl%2Fbeveiliging%2F82385-vijf-topmannen-kaspersky-exit-na-conflict-met-ceo&useragent=Fetch+useragent&accept_encoding=
Trackers blocked Comscore Beacon, OneStat Tracker, GoogleAnalytics by Bitdefender's TrafficLight
Do Not Track Me extension blocks Google Adfsense, Google Analytics, Comscore Beacon.
Ghostery finds most: Adform, DoubleClick, Google Analytics, Krux Digital, OneStat and Outbrain.
Disconnects finds Advertising: Adform, Krux and Outbrain, analytics: comscore and OneStat, and 1 request from Google for content.
Tracked requests: webwereld.nl -> webwereld.nl
                                                    -> webwereld.nl
                              webwereld.nl -> static.webwereld.nl

Request scorecardresearch.com/beacon.js is being missed here?  But the extension has this blocked for me:
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/scorecardresearch.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=rw-viewsc

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P.S. Frustrating when this extension comes in that is trying to find common ground for honoring the Do Not Track me request header,
that the big players like Yahoo, Microsoft and Google are not honoring the Do Not Track me protocol
and decided to  ignore that request header from your browser,
and in stead confront users to go along with  the rules of their own privacy policy  :(
so it is either swallow or block!  Re: http://yahoopolicy.tumblr.com/post/84363620568/yahoos-default-a-personalized-experience
link article authors: Yahoo Privacy Team

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2014, 06:01:45 PM »
6 ways to keep trackers out of your browser -
1. Ghostery plug-in for Firefox, Chrome, Safari en Opera, a cookie blocker.
2. Similar plug-in with better visibility is Disconnect
3. HTTPS Everywhere (but not advised for avast! users as avast only will scan on http sites).
4. Referer Control for Chrome or Ref Control for Firefox.
5. AdBlockPlus to block irritating ads.
6. Test your browser's uniqueness here: https://panopticlick.eff.org/
7.  Browse anonymously on P2P using TOR - https://www.torproject.org/

For the more advanced user I advise the use of NoScript and RequestPolicy add-ons in Firefox,
and ScripSafe, Better Pop Up Blocker and KissPrivacy extensions in Google Chrome.

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2014, 01:19:43 AM »
What I have experienced I get no more tracking cookies as SuperAntiSpyware scan result.
Also the extension does not seem to interfere with other Google Chrome extensions.
I am quite pleased with the workings so far.
KissPrivacy, Disconnect, Ghostery and PrivacyBadger work all right together.

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2014, 07:51:23 AM »
I like MVPS HOST files, That deals with so many ads, trackers and bad sites. I rarely ever see an advert.  Ghostery takes care of the rest.

Cookies are deleted at browser shutdown.

There is a new extension for Chrome you might want to check out   " Script Block "      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scriptblock/hcdjknjpbnhdoabbngpmfekaecnpajba?hl=en-GB

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2014, 09:24:44 AM »
Which Extension Protects Better?

  http://www.areweprivateyet.com/

I am using ABP with suggested lists (Fanboy's Annoyance instead of Social list) and with acceptable ads disabled.

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2014, 03:10:41 PM »
Hi abruptum,

I have Ghostery enabled next to Privacy Badger.
We should not forget that a lot of major tracking goes on unhindered,
when javascript is not particularly blocked (JSQuery etc.).
By default many extensions do not block Google tracking and on top of that Google and some other major players,
do not respect and ignore users sending a Do Not Track Me header and continue fingerprinting the browser.

Therefore we should not forget that for all free services "we" are the "product",
and that is maybe the only reason these services are still free,
because they enable parties to  earn from our clicks.

Apart from this - cookie tracking has been to some extent been regulated -,
web beacon and other stealth tracking methods have not
(see what an extension like Web Bug detector in Chrome finds and the anti ABP+ strategy on certain websites).

Why do you think it is that malicious SE redirection campaigns are so successful?

When users really go stealth with a specially filtered tor browser with ABP+ for instance,
Google won't allow you to surf with such a browser without constantly nagging you about you being a "bot or human"
and asking you to fill out continuous captcha's to continue tracking you.

In that sense privacy has ceased to exist completely.

So what is the EFF organization after - transparency as to what parties honor the Do Not Track Me header requests from clients or not.
Privacy Badger should start to block when I set allowed to blocked or where they find there is abuse.

Leaves us with the parties that do not respect our privacy,
but still are allowed also by ABP with their particular so-called unobtrusive ads.

I can live with advertisements on the main site and normally allow, but I like to block third party ad serving,
also because of the possibilty they could come up with malvertisements or other malware and crap.

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Re: Who will be testing Privacy Badger in Google Chrome and Firefox?
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2014, 04:46:38 PM »
I installed Privacy Badger in Opera Developer since I don't use Chrome.Anyway,I'm using Opera Dev only for testing
purposes.It looks like Privacy Badger is not blocking anything or I should say there is nothing left to block since ABP is blocking almost all
tracking.Privacy Badger is blocking only third party tracking similar to Tracking Protection in IE10/IE11.
If you ask me,Privacy Badger is pretty useless.Maybe it will become better since this is alpha version.